HMS Agincourt - Guide 006 (Human Voice)

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  • HMS Agincourt, a ship that went through many hands before ending up in the Royal Navy, is looked at today.
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  • @grahamr4916
    @grahamr4916 4 роки тому +292

    Agincourt: the ship that has almost as many names as it does gun turrets

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 роки тому +9

      Turrets like Zah Zah Gabor had husbands ! Oh thats one for the old folks here

  • @josephdedrick9337
    @josephdedrick9337 4 роки тому +389

    Funny, he apolgizes for being over 5mins in this, and nowadays he pumps out 2hr long vids like its a 5min vid with no remorse

    • @moseszero3281
      @moseszero3281 3 роки тому +35

      He just learned that people would like to have info more than a time limit.

    • @sadiqmohamed681
      @sadiqmohamed681 3 роки тому +7

      And the 2Hr long vids are Q&A's

    • @alanmcclenaghan7548
      @alanmcclenaghan7548 3 роки тому +23

      Treats 5mins like the Japanese treat naval treaties.

    • @aidentoscan1768
      @aidentoscan1768 2 роки тому +3

      *6 hour videos

    • @brendanharlan8262
      @brendanharlan8262 2 роки тому +1

      i dont mean to be so offtopic but does someone know of a way to log back into an instagram account??
      I stupidly lost my account password. I would love any tricks you can offer me!

  • @peterdavy6110
    @peterdavy6110 3 роки тому +15

    The Agincourt's turrets weren't designated "A" "B" "P" "Q" etc but were called (starting at the bow) "Sunday" "Monday", Tuesday", " Wednesday", Thursday", "Friday" and "Saturday" (at the stern).

  • @WalkaCrookedLine
    @WalkaCrookedLine 5 років тому +128

    I LOVE the still pic at 2:07. A submachine gun, two pistols, at least three different kinds of grenades, and just because that assortment isn't silly enough, some rifle cartridges that clearly won't fit any of the guns he's carrying.

    • @LostShipMate
      @LostShipMate 4 роки тому +3

      Does anyone know where to find that picture?

    • @LostShipMate
      @LostShipMate 3 роки тому +4

      @Sparky Puddins Already found it. Just google "heavily armed Russian".

    • @LostShipMate
      @LostShipMate 3 роки тому +2

      @Sparky Puddins oh . . . I get it now if that helps.

    • @Ushio01
      @Ushio01 3 роки тому +3

      Carrying ammo for the machine gunner or anti tank rifleman was pretty common at the time.

    • @aussiejezza
      @aussiejezza 2 роки тому +7

      As much you want to be you'll never be Ppsh, 6 different grenades, two revolver pistols with rifle Bandoleer, Russian winter coat and Ushanka cool

  • @lawrencewestby9229
    @lawrencewestby9229 4 роки тому +80

    "Hmm, are you sure we can't squeeze another turret or two in there? There appears to be some deck space without a turret, we can't waste valuable deck space like that."

    • @Kakarot64.
      @Kakarot64. 4 роки тому +1

      Have you finished installing the turret on top of the smokestack yet?

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 роки тому +1

      what about UNDER the hull ? lots of space down there

    • @ThatSlowTypingGuy
      @ThatSlowTypingGuy 3 роки тому +1

      I wonder what an Agincourt WW2 refit for use in the Pacific would look like?

    • @lawrencewestby9229
      @lawrencewestby9229 3 роки тому +3

      I have another question. How did they ever find enough room for the engineering spaces with all the magazine space they needed to feed all those guns?

    • @Andrei613
      @Andrei613 3 роки тому +2

      @@ThatSlowTypingGuy In a word: Absurd. A 21 knot 12 inch gunned ship by 1940 was pretty much worthless in any fleet actions. Note that the only such battleship operated by a major power was Arkansas, and she only did gunfire support missions. And, she was kept away from the Pacific until 1945.

  • @Praxics0815
    @Praxics0815 4 роки тому +161

    SMS Goeben is a story about missed opportunity.
    She survived till 1973 (!) when she was scrapped. Afaik the ship was offered to Germany to be bought back and there was a privately driven campaign to bring it home as a museum ship but the private campaign didn’t secure funding and the government wasn’t interested.
    So she went to the scrap yards.
    If I’m correct she would have been the only surviving Battlecruiser of her time today.
    SMS Seydlitz would go on to survive the Battle of Jutland in the most astonishing way: Sailing in reverse to not sink itself.

    • @jehb8945
      @jehb8945 4 роки тому +29

      The Goeben/yavuz sultan selim was one of those ships I wish they would have preserved as it would have been a great little chunk of naval history
      as it stands the only dreadnought battleship that exist that is not on the bottom of the ocean is the USS Texas which I'm not complaining about but it would be amazing to have something from the early days of dreadnought battleships

    • @MauserKar98k
      @MauserKar98k 4 роки тому +19

      Really sad and pathetic that Germany would decline to preserve its Imperial naval legacy like that, but in the '60s and '70s, Germany had other priorities..

    • @friday3810
      @friday3810 4 роки тому +14

      Well the ship that died the first shots of ww1, the austro hungarian river Monitor SMS botrog, is still afloat, but is terible Condition, used as a barge in serbia and none is willing to have her.
      So much history that none care for it's a shame

    • @albertoswald8461
      @albertoswald8461 3 роки тому +7

      The Goeben would be the only battlecruiser in existence period!! (Well, at least above water!) In fact I believe when HMS Renown was scrapped in the late 40's the Goeben/Yavuz was the last battlecruiser in existence until her scrapping!

    • @gernhard.reinholdsen
      @gernhard.reinholdsen 3 роки тому +6

      @@MauserKar98k still today, german self-image is in such a bad shape, there are so few people appreciating their own history. It's sad!

  • @iatsd
    @iatsd 4 роки тому +64

    Fun factoid: when British shipyards built a ship all the hundreds and hundreds of name and instruction plates for the equipment etc were made with English on one side and the language of the ship buyer on the other. This was done because it was easier for the fitters to put the right plates on the first time. Agincourt had all the Portuguese/English plates ripped out and replaced with Turkish/English plates. When the RN took over the ship all the plates were pulled out again and flipped over to English.

    • @ZerokillerOppel1
      @ZerokillerOppel1 4 роки тому +1

      So the Agincourt became even more expensive then...

    • @iatsd
      @iatsd 4 роки тому +13

      @@ZerokillerOppel1 AFAIK, Britain never paid for the Agincourt as it was intended for the Turks. Besides, the Brazilians sold it to the Turks - the Turks would have to complain to Brazil about a refund after the UK seized it.
      It was a gloriously ridiculous ship.

    • @johnlavery3433
      @johnlavery3433 3 роки тому +8

      They also had to replace all the toilets twice since the Turks perfered squat toilets

    • @sadiqmohamed681
      @sadiqmohamed681 3 роки тому +14

      @@johnlavery3433 If I may quote from Richard Hough's “The Big Battleship” Michael Joseph Ltd., 1966. Page 152
      "Day by day the ship began to assume a more familiar, a more British guise. The same plumbers who six months earlier had replaced the Brazilian latrine fittings with the exotic yet somehow indecent “squatters”, were now employed, on overtime and through the night, in wrenching them out again, sealing off the cold taps and securing paper-holders, and re-equipping them with proper Western sanitary equipment, varying from the highest quality decorated water closets for Captain Nicholson, down to the standard service issue for the ratings."

  • @JurgenADV
    @JurgenADV 5 років тому +218

    Thank you, thank you for Human voice. Sooooooo much better.

    • @Sukerkin
      @Sukerkin 4 роки тому +7

      Absolutely... the fellow has a witty writing style and an excellently dry presentation :thumbs up:.

  • @jpjpjp453
    @jpjpjp453 5 років тому +85

    For various reasons, my all time favorite dreadnought. She was described as "a floating magazine with a tremendous volume of fire as her best protection".

  • @MarchHare59
    @MarchHare59 3 роки тому +9

    If you noticed the odd looking hulk with the cranes and crude shacks covering her main deck (on the left side of the photo) at 8:02, that is the center-battery ironclad, HMS Sultan (1870) which was broken up in 1946.

  • @vespelian5769
    @vespelian5769 5 років тому +76

    I had an ancestor who served aboard HMS Agincourt as a petty officer at Jutland, a cousin of my paternal grandmother. My German great grandfather was a Swedish born German who served in the German navy aboard SMS Koenig at Jutland. After the mutiny he emigrated to the southern USA. Agincourt has her own biography: The Big Battleship by Richard Hough.
    I'd love to obtain the crew lists for these two ships.

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 4 роки тому +9

      My grandfather was on SMS König as well!!! People don't believe me usually for the simple reason of age...but he was very young when he volunteered in 1914 and he was a fairly old man when he became a dad for the last time. I'm in my 40s now. If you want crew lists...I suggest the Federal German Archive as a starting point. A lot of the German Army archive was lost in WW2 in some senseless last minute terror bombing. I do have a rare book with a crew list of a few submarines. Also you could ask the German "Marinebund" for help. Further there are active and retired Naval officers in the Naval Amateur Radio Club ... So there are multiple avenues....hope this helps

    • @sadiqmohamed681
      @sadiqmohamed681 3 роки тому +1

      I recently bought a copy of that book on eBay. A long time ago I owned it, but that copy has disappeared. It is both fascinating and enlightening. A very good read.

  • @billwatters4833
    @billwatters4833 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting. I served on HMS Agincourt, a battle class destroyer in 1956, She was equipped with two turrets of twin 4.5" and we had been alerted urgently and proceeded at speed south from Beruit where we briefly experienced an issue with an Algerian sweeper owned by the Egyptians. I was a Leading Seaman QA2 breech worker on B turret, The CPO in charge has strings linking left and right gun breech operators by string so that we could all observe the stop-loading order. In the middle of the night, an unidentified ship was encountered. We fired star shell but because the tiffys had been messing with the fire control system the star shell hit the sweeper in the funnel. It was never recorded and what happened afterwards when we returned to Cyprus.

  • @giklab
    @giklab 5 років тому +66

    >Duration: 13:37
    Excellent

  • @spacecase13
    @spacecase13 2 роки тому +12

    At the 7:01 mark "This resulted in a ship that looked more like a turret farm than a battleship in the traditional sense." had me howling with laughter. So many guns, and in such an odd configuration.

    • @andrewhammel5714
      @andrewhammel5714 Рік тому +1

      It wasnt the biggest battleship in the world. But its freakish layout of seven primary turrets gave it the heaviest broadside weight of any warship when it was built, if I am not mistaken. More than 13.5 inch gun ships of the day. It wasnt until mid First World War when the Brits came out with the 15 inch Queen Elizabeth class were there normal ships with a heavier broadside weight.

    • @ottaviobasques
      @ottaviobasques 7 місяців тому +1

      Well, turret farms were certainly a big piece of battleship history, that's why we need to preserve the last of the turret farms (which is a official designation if I'm not mistaken), the long living Texas.

  • @den_t5661
    @den_t5661 5 років тому +291

    Last time i was this early, the USS Texas wasnt rusting

    • @1TruNub
      @1TruNub 5 років тому +5

      Shes not Rusting now

    • @riquihess1299
      @riquihess1299 4 роки тому +1

      yea

    • @charliekk3377
      @charliekk3377 4 роки тому

      Hey be nice lol

    • @kyle857
      @kyle857 4 роки тому +4

      @@1TruNub nope, now she is sinking:-(

    • @1TruNub
      @1TruNub 4 роки тому +1

      @@kyle857 no she aint

  • @SlipdeGarcondeJour
    @SlipdeGarcondeJour Рік тому +3

    I was somewhat fascinated by this ship in my youth... that many turrets on the centre line, is if nothing else aesthetically striking.

  • @Strike_Raid
    @Strike_Raid 5 років тому +47

    Considering it's odd layout, the Agincourt has very nice lines.

    • @briananthony4044
      @briananthony4044 4 роки тому +6

      I agree, nice looking ship. All those turrets help too.

    • @WillHayes44
      @WillHayes44 2 роки тому

      Perverts... She has a Command post as well.

  • @robertschumacher2707
    @robertschumacher2707 3 роки тому +13

    It's also interesting to note that other ships were ordered to position themselves relative to Agincourt, because its' profile was so distinctive.

    • @the_undead
      @the_undead Рік тому +1

      I mean of any single ship in the grand fleet if there is anyone you ship that you could just get a glance and identify it would be this one

  • @admiraltiberius1989
    @admiraltiberius1989 5 років тому +13

    I love the bit about how the Agincourt looked as her entire main battery fired. I can imagine It was an awesome site to see her firing. The Agincourt is close to how I would imagine my dream dreadnaught. Two turrets forward, 4 turrets aft, 2 facing forward and 2 facing aft with the middle two super firing. A compact superstructure that concentrates the armor to ensure max protection.

  • @nairdamorton5148
    @nairdamorton5148 5 років тому +6

    I don't remember if it was mentioned on here, but, as there were 7 turrets, they were called Sunday, Monday, Tuesday etc to Saturday. I saw an old chap years ago in his waterside garden, there was a dinghy alongside his frontage, called "The Gin Palace". I asked him if he had served on HMS Agincourt, he was amazed and VERY pleased that I had sussed that from his dinghy as I was quite young at the time!. He was a chap who had been an Equerry to the Queen.

  • @sadiqmohamed681
    @sadiqmohamed681 3 роки тому +8

    There was a time when the history of HMS Agincourt could have been my Mastermind Specialist Subject! It was fascinating being reminded of it. I was sufficiently fired up that I went on eBay and found copies of two of Richard Hough's books. "The Big Battleship" his biography of Agincourt; and "Dreadnought: A history of the modern battleship" a fascinating book with some great background on ship design. It has a forward by C.S.Forester no less! "The Big Battleship" is a great read, not only for the Agincourt information, but also because he goes into the background of some of the characters and the history of the participating countries. There are lots of quotes from first hand records. A must have book not just for the Agincourt afficionado, but anyone interested in Dreadnoughts in general.

    • @craigfazekas3923
      @craigfazekas3923 6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the info. Btw, there is now an outstanding 1:700 scale model kit of AGINCOURT by Flyhawk Models. There are 2 editions of it- standard & deluxe- with metal barrels, photo etch upgrades, ect.
      🚬😎👍

  • @Cragified
    @Cragified 5 років тому +117

    Should do one of these on BB-5 U.S.S. Kearsarge, the only American Battleship not named after a state.

    • @michaeltait1495
      @michaeltait1495 4 роки тому +2

      Was it the Kearsarge that was converted to a heavy lift ship between the wars?

    • @bachelorchownowwithflavor3712
      @bachelorchownowwithflavor3712 4 роки тому +3

      @@michaeltait1495 Correct.

    • @ZerokillerOppel1
      @ZerokillerOppel1 4 роки тому +1

      @@michaeltait1495 And was in service until the '50's.

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 роки тому

      i agree

    • @FRAGIORGIO1
      @FRAGIORGIO1 3 роки тому +7

      I saw it in 1945, but it had been converted into a floating platform for a large crane. The ram bow with its molded US coat of arms shield were striking to my 8 year old eyes. It was scrapped later. What a loss of history as was the loss of the USS Oregon BB-3 which was commissioned in 1898 and scrapped in 1956 and the Kearsarge in 1955 !

  • @b.griffin317
    @b.griffin317 5 років тому +31

    8:04 that vessel on the left is fascinating. looks like an old "ship of the line" with a new bow bolted on and a whole lot of shacks nailed on top and on the sides to make it a floating workshop.

    • @rogerwilco2
      @rogerwilco2 5 років тому

      Yeah, I wondered about that as well.

    • @A_p_T53040
      @A_p_T53040 4 роки тому +4

      Hulks were fairly common back then

    • @wheels-n-tires1846
      @wheels-n-tires1846 4 роки тому +4

      There was a lot of "repurposing" of older out if date warships back then... Notable one that comes to mind was the USS Kearsarge, which became a crane ship, and helped service other battleships and assist in damage repair/ new construction into the mid 1950s.

    • @Andrei613
      @Andrei613 3 роки тому +3

      English: The British battleship HMS Erin in a floating dry dock, circa in 1918. The location may be Invergordon, Scotland (UK). In the left foreground are several old warships employed as barracks and for other stationary support duties. The one furthest right may be HMS Algiers (formerly HMS Triumph of 1873). That at the far left, with two smokestacks closely spaced side-by-side, may be HMS Mars of 1897.
      commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HMS_Erin_in_floating_dry_dock_WWI_IWM_SP_2106.jpg
      Note that the British battleship in that picture is the Erin, and not the Agincourt. However, Erin was the other battleship that was built in the UK for Turkey and was requisitioned by the RN, along with Agincourt, at the start of the First World War.

  • @toddwebb7521
    @toddwebb7521 3 роки тому +6

    The turret farmers had a bumper crop this season

  • @jehb8945
    @jehb8945 4 роки тому +9

    The first time I read about HMS Agincourt was before I had internet access in an old squadron signals publication in action which you could buy at any hobby shop on the Wyoming class and I had to find out what this ship looked like and thankfully when we did get internet access there were a couple of websites that had a few pictures of HMS Agincourt and I was not disappointed
    It was every bit crazy looking as I expected.
    I read one description of firing a full 14-gun brideside and they said there were some pop rivets and the kitchen what's the greatest casualty as there was a lot of things that got shattered.
    I'm glad there was a guide on this made

  • @trentxiiib8756
    @trentxiiib8756 3 роки тому +2

    What from what I've read in a book, the turrets were named (bow to stern), Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thersday, Friday, Saturday, and of course Sunday!!!...

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 4 роки тому +1

    'Turret Farm'.
    I like that.
    Thanks for this very interesting and detailed video.

  • @happyhighway106
    @happyhighway106 5 років тому +2

    #138 HMS Agincourt had a checkered career. She was a Lucky Ship. Lightly armored she could have blown up in battle. Very unusual design, and not the best! Thanks for your presentation.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 5 років тому

      Happy Highway
      Given that no battleship justified her cost and most of them never actually fought other big-gun ships, the fact she fought at all means she’s more combat-effective than nearly all other battleships.
      Which really shows how useless these things were.

    • @happyhighway106
      @happyhighway106 5 років тому

      Your are correct! @@bkjeong4302

    • @y0Milan
      @y0Milan 4 роки тому +1

      @@bkjeong4302 The british battleships justified their cost in that Germany was never able to invade britain and remained under blockade for the duration of both world wars,

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 4 роки тому +1

      ACED
      In WWII the battleship was obsolete thanks to naval aviation having just become the new arbiter of sea control, and in WWI geographic realities meant that the blockade was largely enforced by cruisers with the Grand Fleet serving more as a deterrent. Note that the High Seas Fleet never actually planned to engage the Grand Fleet and outright defeat it; their plan was to take it out a few isolated elements at a time.

    • @y0Milan
      @y0Milan 4 роки тому

      @@bkjeong4302 Carrier warfare was much less relevant than heavy surface ship engagements in the atlantic theatre in ww2.
      As for ww1, sure the cruisers enforced the blockade but the High seas fleet could have broken it were it not for the grand fleets dreadnoughts.
      The point stands, britains vast fleet of battleships kept the germans at bay and under immense economic pressure in both wars.
      I can see Germany victorious in both world wars were it not for the Royal navies battleships.

  • @Omnihil777
    @Omnihil777 5 років тому +1

    Love the more detailled videos, thank you for this highly fascinating piece of history.

  • @ThePostie501
    @ThePostie501 5 років тому +58

    Come on WOWS, you know you want to !

  • @InternetEntity
    @InternetEntity 4 роки тому +2

    HMS Agincourt: A slightly British ship with South American flair and a very British history.
    It was reclaimed from legitimate ownersby means of planting the White Ensign on it. Somebody somewhere in the Royal NAvy then became very happy with the number of guns they had just aquired.

  • @vincentpellegrino789
    @vincentpellegrino789 5 років тому +1

    Well worth the extra time. Thank you.

  • @jamesbass4154
    @jamesbass4154 3 роки тому +1

    While reading a PDF of Courier magazine which was a miniatures wargame magazine there is a Battle of Jutland HMS Agincourt after action report printed in it in its entirety. The author of the article was on a trip to England when he purchased a book. Inside it he found a folded piece of paper which contained the report.

  • @eh4447
    @eh4447 4 роки тому +1

    I Enjoyed this Video re a ship c/w complicated story. He mentions the South American situation (natural resource sales, bigger government defense budgets, and regional rivalries lead to a naval build up), considering ordering different ships & gun size/number, things change, then the Turks urgent interest, WW 1, Don't Sell this battleship to our Turkish enemy and the Royal Navy takeover. I remember: 14 x 12" guns (7 twin turrets nicknamed Monday to Sunday). I still think armour is more important than speed in the end. Good job by this video's author!

  • @Aelvir114
    @Aelvir114 3 роки тому +1

    Weird how this is one of the only videos that Drach doesn’t give a run-down of the ships armament outside of the main guns. 🤔

  • @MrNealSalo
    @MrNealSalo 5 років тому +20

    I seem to recall the turrets were named after the days of the week as opposed to the more common practice of A, B, X, Y, etc.; am I remembering this right?

  • @bleedinggumsroberts3579
    @bleedinggumsroberts3579 5 років тому

    Wow! I wish you happy holidays and all that.

  • @longlakeshore
    @longlakeshore 5 років тому +25

    Turret farm! lol

  • @toddwebb7521
    @toddwebb7521 Рік тому +1

    Just think, it only had that many turrets because the Vickers 14" salesman wasn't on point that day

  • @hajoos.8360
    @hajoos.8360 4 роки тому +2

    Again a illustrious vid .... this leads to my proposal to produce a vid about the best british seaman ever, the Scotsman Lord Cochrane, who freed South-America with nearly nothing. Most south-american navies called a warship "Almirante Cochrane". Ok, i have to commit, that after the Spaniards were out, South-America is ruled by anglo-american corporates till our days, not so much difference to the Spaniards, but Cochrane's performance is still outstanding and let Nelson look like a dwarf.

  • @sirtoast4502
    @sirtoast4502 5 років тому +11

    You had 9,000 subs when I found this channel a few days ago, already up to 12,000, keep it sir, I see great things for this channel

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 роки тому +2

      I'm rewatching this video and he's got 215 k lol just 2 years on

    • @sirtoast4502
      @sirtoast4502 3 роки тому

      @@mikepette4422 Holly hell it's already been two years? Fuck, Drach really filled a niche on UA-cam.

    • @brucemckean2848
      @brucemckean2848 2 роки тому

      Prescient!

  • @adamdubin1276
    @adamdubin1276 5 років тому +6

    Request for the Hag of the seas, the much unlamented and hideous Pre-Dreadnought Massena.

  • @forthleft
    @forthleft 3 роки тому

    Can't enjoy these enough.

  • @LordEvan5
    @LordEvan5 5 років тому +1

    Really appreciate these I just found this channel and have been enjoying greatly there used to be another guy but he wasn’t as good only showed a static view of the ship keep it up

  • @06colkurtz
    @06colkurtz 3 роки тому

    Well done. Love your videos. Do more

  • @HighlanderNorth1
    @HighlanderNorth1 4 роки тому +6

    **As the narrator said, the Agincourt was able to evade the torpedoes, while the Marlboro was hit as it steamed beside it's sister ships, the Newport, and the Winston. The long, skinny battlecruiser HMS Virginia Slim was also hit, as were the smaller cruisers Salem Light and Doral Light.**
    Two other cruisers were late to the battle, they were the Benson & Hedges.... Parliament was none too happy to hear that these and other ships were late to show up. There was a meeting about it on the Pall Mall. Admiral Chesterfield received most of the blame, and he was demoted to captain of the Kent. He had always been somewhat of a Maverick, way back from his days serving on the Dunhill, the Mayfair and the Richmond.
    Lord Phillip Morris saw Merit in the performance of this ship. After the war, many of the veteran officers got good jobs in the Embassy, while sailors received Basic jobs. One officer eventually became Viceroy of Tareyton. The immediate post-war years were very Kool times indeed...

    • @waynevreeland3141
      @waynevreeland3141 4 роки тому +3

      Nicely done, lad... but I fear I was coughing and hacking up a lung during your presentation.

    • @HighlanderNorth1
      @HighlanderNorth1 2 роки тому

      @@waynevreeland3141
      Yeah, me too, at least until i quit smoking menthols after 28 years. Its funny how much you end up LOATHING the thought of being a smoker, AFTER you quit being a smoker!

  • @sicandunya
    @sicandunya 4 роки тому +6

    The Agincourt was not the reason for the Ottomen Empire to switch to the German's. The German's convinced the Turks to open a new frontline against Russia. Therefore they gave the 2 ships (you mentioned) to the Ottoman Empire. The first year or so the Yavuz (ex Goeben) was driven by German soldiers. Sorry for my bad English, thanks for you contribution, it's very helpfull...

    • @axelandersson6314
      @axelandersson6314 4 роки тому +1

      turkpunk Well he seems to have just said that it was a justification. Not the actual reason, but one of the things formally proclaimed as a reason.

    • @felixsteiner8320
      @felixsteiner8320 Рік тому +1

      The sultan was not aware of the agreement and thus Cemal Pasha (one of the three pashas) was against the alliance with Germany before this event (he was more interested on an alliance with the French).

    • @muysli.y1855
      @muysli.y1855 7 місяців тому

      Not the reason but one of them with this requisition of Agincourt the people of Ottoman support the Axis instead of Entente.

  • @ringowunderlich2241
    @ringowunderlich2241 5 років тому +1

    One of the most preciuos resources of Chile, Peru and Bolivia had been saltpeter. Thus their war for the control of the saltpeter mines in the borderregion between them in 1879-1884 was also called "Saltpeter War". Alfred Thayer Mahan had been there to represent the US economy interests. In that time he developed his theory of the war winning effect of a strong sea power.
    His theory lead to the naval arms race of many countries, that continued into WWI and is still in effect to this day, looking at the US sea power.

  • @timengineman2nd714
    @timengineman2nd714 Рік тому +2

    Drachinifel: I know there was some type of limit, from Brazil, on the ship that eventually became the HMS Agincourt. I can remember if it was her beam or draft. I do know that it had something to do with her home port, or another Brazilian port that she may be sent to in "times of trouble."
    Could you please let me know which measurement, and exactly the why?

  • @nonna_sof5889
    @nonna_sof5889 4 роки тому +4

    Is it just me or is the guy at 2:10 a Soviet? He seems to have a PPSh-41, two Nagant M1895s, three F1 grenades, two RGD-33 grenades (one with and one without the fragmentation sleeve), and an RPG-40.

  • @domonkosmestercsiki5292
    @domonkosmestercsiki5292 5 років тому

    AAAAAnd subscribed.Great videos keep em up

  • @TheKurtkapan34
    @TheKurtkapan34 5 років тому +18

    Agincourt and Erin: 2 ships that cost British Empire more than a million soldiers. There's no way Young Turks could sway the public opinion to Germans had the British delivered our ships.
    Great video and thank you for converting these old videos to human voice. Waiting for Goeben to become humanized too! :D

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 5 років тому +6

      Another huge blunder by Churchill. He didn't have much luck in WW1.

    • @y0Milan
      @y0Milan 4 роки тому +11

      highly debatable, in any case the Ottomans lost everything for their part in ww1 so i wouldn't gloat.

    • @TheAmir259
      @TheAmir259 4 роки тому +3

      And of course, could've avoided the disastrous Gallipoli Campaign

    • @Charliecomet82
      @Charliecomet82 3 роки тому +1

      Furthermore, if the Ottomans remained neutral, the Russians could have kept exporting grain and importing arms through the straits, with the possibility the war wouldn't have gone so badly for them, which might have meant no February Revolution and no October Revolution-good job, Winnie!

    • @sadiqmohamed681
      @sadiqmohamed681 3 роки тому +7

      The Ottomans had already signed a pact with the Germans prior to 1914 so seizing the Agincourt would have made no difference. It did however get used as an excuse for purely propaganda purposes.
      Edit: Your statement is based on a myth. I now have a copy of Richard Hough's "The Big Battleship", essentially a biography or the ship. He has quotes from both British and German sources that were written at the time. To summarise, the Turks had two factions, and "Old Guard" led by the Sultan (equivalent to King) and the Grand Vizier (equivalent to Prime Minister) who wanted to remain neutral, and a set of younger politicians and more importantly Army officers who called themselves "The Young Turks", who favoured siding with Germany. Nobody favoured siding with Britain. The YT's had been pressuring the government to side with Germany. They had mostly done their training in Germany. The Turkish Army had been equipped by Germany, while Britain had equipped the Navy. However the RN detachment helping train the Turks was not well supported from Britain, and was at a disadvantage. The Germans were being very forceful with their support. As a result early in 1914 it became clear that the Young Turks had gained the upper hand. This was re-enforced when SMS Goeben and SMS Breslau managed to evade the RN and make it into Constantinople at the beginning of August. The Germans made a big public show of handing these ships over to the Turks. The point that is continually ignored about the situation is that by the end of July 1914 the Turks had ALREADY negotiated a Treaty of Alliance with Germany, and a signed draft was in the hands of the German government. The arrival of Goeben and the seizing of Agincourt were used as PR to camouflage the reality. And the contract with Armstrong's included a clause allowing the RN to seize the ship "in critical circumstances". All ships being built in British yards for foreign navies had this clause, and I believe still do.

  • @snookums01
    @snookums01 4 роки тому +4

    My thanks for this video. I have the book on this ship and a 1/700 scale resin model that I was planning to construct. However, a new model maker has turned up with a plastic offering.
    There are three models available for HMS Agincourt, 2 in 1/700 scale and 1 in 1/350 scale. Combrig offer a 1/700 scale resin waterline version of how she looked in 1918. The rear tripod tower had been removed at this time. Flyhawk have just released a 1/700 scale version in plastic as she looked at Jutland. They also have a delux version with brass gun barrels and photoetch. The 1/350 scale is by Ironshipwrights in the US. Resin and photoetch so expensive in postage.

  • @insight-chris7570
    @insight-chris7570 5 років тому +7

    I am so happy that finally someone is doing good stuff about Naval history :D pls do a Video about the IJN Tosa it would be a pretty interesting Video I think

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube9863 5 років тому

    I remember reading that there was some controversy when American shipyards built the "Minas Geraes" with more guns then the USS Michigan. But the US Navy had rejected the design because the side turrets weakened the strength girder of the ship plus the space for the barbettes took up valuable engine room space. The US Navy also stopped putting turrets in between engine rooms at this time as cooling the magazines was a problem. The difference in temperature of the shells resulted in a large dispersion of salvos. The New York and Wyoming classes were notorious for their poor accuracy so much, that the midship guns were directed separately from the fore and aft guns.

  • @Sshooter444
    @Sshooter444 5 років тому

    Thank you Human Voice

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot
    @Self-replicating_whatnot 3 роки тому +2

    British really missed a trick there, they should've named this riducolous turret farm "HMS Moar Dakka"

  • @vikkimcdonough6153
    @vikkimcdonough6153 Рік тому +1

    Britain: *seizes battleship to avoid having to fight it*
    Ottoman Empire: *declares war on Britain in outrage*
    Yeah, that worked well.

  • @TheSonicfrog
    @TheSonicfrog 5 років тому +1

    Could you do a review of the U.S. Navy AR (Auxiliary Repair) Class built during WWII and including ships such as the USS Jason, USS Hector, USS Achilles, etc. I served aboard the Jason and it was a fascinating ship built upon an ocean liner hull.

  • @EricDKaufman
    @EricDKaufman 5 років тому +1

    you end this videos so harshly... i guess that is appropriate.
    Keep up the good work!!!

  • @peepsy1528
    @peepsy1528 5 років тому +10

    could you review the Kirov class cruiser?

  • @Wien1938
    @Wien1938 5 років тому +3

    The story goes that when Agincourt fired a full broadside, every crew locker in the ship was dented!

    • @jacobmercado3762
      @jacobmercado3762 5 років тому +2

      Not to mention, when the Agincourt fired her first broadside, every tableware and glassware on the ship was reported to have been broken.

  • @derekmcmanus1423
    @derekmcmanus1423 5 років тому

    Interesting video.

  • @ankles632
    @ankles632 5 років тому +1

    Have you done 1 on the first HMAS Sydney ? Her fight with SMS Emden was the birth ( in a way) of the RAN.

  • @Robutube1
    @Robutube1 4 роки тому +1

    When I was in the Andrew, HMS Bellerophon was pronounced Bell-er-off-on and not as it is pronounced at 11:34. I believe that it was an "umbrella" name for ships in reserve at Portsmouth, often used for accommodation. I don't know which pronunciation is correct because we often mangled the names of Greek and Roman deities, a popular source for ship's names.

  • @SomeGuy-cp1km
    @SomeGuy-cp1km 5 років тому +15

    Can you do a video on Task Group Taffy 3 and the Battle off Samar?

  • @iamnadexey
    @iamnadexey 5 років тому +3

    Hey, you should do major naval action commentary, such as Jutland, or Leyte Gulf, or possibly Battle of the Coral Sea (and the like)
    Also could you do HMCS Haida? (Royal Canadian Tribal class DD)

  • @1TruNub
    @1TruNub 5 років тому +4

    Ah the Gin palace

  • @airplanemaster1
    @airplanemaster1 4 місяці тому

    Ahh, HMS Sultan De Jeneiro the 1st Agincourt. Best ship of the Royql Navy.

  • @matspedersen1332
    @matspedersen1332 5 років тому +11

    Please do the Eidsvoll class. Norge and Eidsvoll they were Norwegian battleships

    • @Andrei613
      @Andrei613 3 роки тому

      They were small coast defense ships.
      The Eidsvold class was a class of coastal defence ships, two of which were built for the Royal Norwegian Navy in 1899 by Armstrong Whitworth. The class consisted of two ships, HNoMS Eidsvold and HNoMS Norge. Locally they were referred to as panserskip (lit.: armoured ship).

  • @pabmusic1
    @pabmusic1 3 роки тому

    Very interesting.
    (It's Benbow - rhymes with "then go".)

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 4 роки тому +1

    Were the Turks ever compensatedd for what many individuals had subscribed? I remember reading a monograph on this vessel in the '60s. Its designer was Sir Hugh Tennyson d'Eyncourt. (and I can't remember peoples' names!).

  • @ndmmt-wu7kz
    @ndmmt-wu7kz 4 роки тому +1

    Could you come up with a putative design and function for the “floating fortresses” in 1984?

  • @randallstarling1804
    @randallstarling1804 5 років тому +3

    Can you please do the HMAS Sydney (D48) in ww2 thanks

  • @davidjaeckel1841
    @davidjaeckel1841 4 роки тому

    Can you do the USS Juneau, the ship that the 5 Sullivan brothers died on. I think it was designated CL-52.

  • @threechevy4203
    @threechevy4203 2 роки тому

    Can you do a video on the USS New York aka Rodchester?

  • @darthrevan704
    @darthrevan704 5 років тому +7

    we need this in world of warships

  • @garnetgourlay3988
    @garnetgourlay3988 5 років тому +3

    The Royal Navy still produces the most professional and highly trained Men Of Oak .Where is the next Thomas Cochrane hiding ? Rule Britannia .

  • @collinriley4976
    @collinriley4976 4 роки тому

    I have many waterline ship models (1/1200) and have long wanted one of this ship.

    • @Wombat1916
      @Wombat1916 4 роки тому +1

      I have 30 waterline or (mainly) full hull models in various scales from HMS Dreadnought to HMS Vanguard, though my current favourite is the Heller 1/400th scale model of the French battleship Richelieu.

  • @JohnJohansen2
    @JohnJohansen2 5 років тому +1

    5:05 What are all those oblique "things" down the length of the hull?
    They are on the Dreadnought and other ships as well.

    • @Drachinifel
      @Drachinifel  5 років тому +10

      They are torpedo net support booms, folded away for transit at sea

    • @louislungbubble
      @louislungbubble 5 років тому +2

      I would imagine they are torpedo net booms.

    • @JohnJohansen2
      @JohnJohansen2 5 років тому +3

      @@Drachinifel Thanks a lot.
      I wouldn't have guessed that.
      Although now knowing, it seems logical. 😉

  • @markmiddleton1772
    @markmiddleton1772 4 роки тому

    would love a video on hms fearless and her sister

  • @timkbirchico8542
    @timkbirchico8542 4 роки тому

    Dear Mr Drachinfel could you please do a vid on Cochrane and his South American adventures. And joy to you in it sir.

  • @Weesel71
    @Weesel71 4 роки тому

    Seems to be a good place ask for some clarification. ISTR reading that the Turkish ships were not only retained but that the money was also not returned to Turkey and that this is what really miffed Johnny Turk. Later I recall reading about a plan to use the Turkish money to bribe some Turkish officials to stay out of the war but Winston put the kibosh to that plan. So, he developed the plan to seize the ships, retain the funds, and then not return the funds as a bribe to keep that front from opening. How close to a cigar are my memory banks functioning? Seems like something that would make a fascinating special on some history channel if for nothing but clarification.

  • @robertgiggie6366
    @robertgiggie6366 4 роки тому +4

    Ahh eminent domain. Makes stealing seem so much more civilized.

  • @randyhavard6084
    @randyhavard6084 Рік тому

    It's kind of a baller move say I'll buy all the battleships, and if you want let me buy them I'll take them from you

  • @airplanemaster1
    @airplanemaster1 5 років тому +12

    May I request a guide to the Omaha-class light cruisers?

  • @ZaGaijinSmash
    @ZaGaijinSmash 3 роки тому

    Are the historical events in South America the same that were greatly influenced by the real life Flashard ie Thomas Cochrane?

  • @SAarumDoK
    @SAarumDoK 5 років тому

    Are you going to make videos about French 1700 - 1800 frigates / Ships ? (QA ?)

    • @Drachinifel
      @Drachinifel  5 років тому

      Sure, they're a bit down the list though.

  • @ajfiory5124
    @ajfiory5124 5 років тому

    best ship ever

  • @437cosimo
    @437cosimo 5 років тому +2

    Did not the Agincourt also have a very open design that would not have helped her if hit by torpedoes?

  • @program4215
    @program4215 4 роки тому +2

    Please tell me the video length is intentional

  • @jonbainmusicvideos8045
    @jonbainmusicvideos8045 5 років тому

    funny how amusing this is when it was really quite an horrific spectacle

  • @bverheijden
    @bverheijden 4 роки тому +1

    This would be one heck of a ship for the World of Warships game. 14 guns broadside, come on then...

  • @timhatch5909
    @timhatch5909 3 роки тому

    If you ever start on newer vessels, please consider USS Iwo Jima LPH-2

  • @antiochusiiithegreat7721
    @antiochusiiithegreat7721 5 років тому +1

    Wow! 15000 subs. I swear there was only 10000 a couple days ago.

    • @cogidubnus1953
      @cogidubnus1953 5 років тому

      and three months later 34,000....

    • @DangerTurtle91
      @DangerTurtle91 4 роки тому

      @@cogidubnus1953 and 5 months later 69,000. I think he was in the 20,000-30,000 range when I found his channel.

  • @carstenpedersen3200
    @carstenpedersen3200 5 років тому +100

    Erhhm, why are the Falklands on the Argentine map?

    • @Drachinifel
      @Drachinifel  5 років тому +73

      The map shows Argentine territory in dark green, and what they claim is theirs in light green.

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 5 років тому +22

      @@Drachinifel Well it shouldn't, the Argentine claim to the Falklands is BS, and based on a usurpation involving a murder and a rape. And they even call South Georgia 'Georgia del Sur', showing that they can't even borrow and hispanicise a French name, but have to refer to King George.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 5 років тому +45

      The claim is garbage, but it's still a claim that exists.

    • @ThePaulv12
      @ThePaulv12 5 років тому +7

      It might be astute that we don't talk about this in the case Argentinian trolls start getting batey.

    • @Colonel_Overkill
      @Colonel_Overkill 5 років тому +47

      @@DIEGhostfish I believe the Royal Navy answered the concerns of Argentina about the Falklands a few decades ago

  • @adamwright9517
    @adamwright9517 4 роки тому +1

    Love the videos. I think it's pronounced Benboh, not Benbowe. Also, I believe that Seydlitz is pronounced Sigh-dlitz.

  • @YukariAkiyamaTanks
    @YukariAkiyamaTanks 4 роки тому

    Could you a episode on German or English hospital ships during the second world war?

  • @wandrinyew
    @wandrinyew 4 роки тому

    As the ship was being refit for the Turks, some of the construction people noticed that all of the labeling for the ship had writing on both sides of the plates. One was Turkish, the other, English. The contractors were told to say nothing.

    • @bfrobin446
      @bfrobin446 2 роки тому

      It was standard practice among most or all British yards building ships for export to have the plates labeled in English on one side. How else were English-speaking yard personnel supposed to know which plate went where?

  • @amandusohrn1277
    @amandusohrn1277 2 роки тому

    My favorit ship is The German cruiser Blucher 1937. I want to see a video about it