How to Remove Rust with from metal and tools DIY Electrolysis process for motorcycles and auto parts
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2024
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Here is a video on how to make a bad ass electrolysis set up to safely remove rust from tools and fragile metal parts ! Handy shop kit for car and motorcycle parts . This will really come in handy on the café racer and future custom motorcycle metal finishing and customizing projects !
I have replicated this procedure and the results are amazing. I've upgraded to a 55 gal. drum, my wife's car battery and both rear shocks as hangers (they absorb the violent chemical reaction). I converted sporks to Yen and used honey badger urine as a catalyst. Thanks Ichiban Moto!!!!
Van Alstyne can i use it for rusted watch parts?
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Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
I am particularly impressed with the finesse in attaching the coloured wires to the battery terminals with duct tape.
I think you mean Voltage Grade Assembly Tape. 😉 1:50
I needed my plumbing wrench today, found it outside. It is messed up, this will help. 5 out of 5 for sure!
Thanks again for a simple, concise explanation. Your video was well within my five minute attention span.
I didn't have any batteries lying around, for this, so I used the 6Kv generator, at work. I hooked it up over my lunch break. When I came back, the part had halved in mass, the water was gone, and the metal is heat stained blue. Is this normal?
have you tired to swap polarity to reverse the results ?
Ichiban Moto genius
I hit subscribe at "voltage-grade assembly tape." Badass.
I laughed so hard that I could hit the subscribe button. Awesome.
Hi Ichi,
I know US and UK gallons are different, could you please confirm that US and UK Sporks have the same volume. I wouldn't like to over do it as I know your measurements are quite precise.
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You always win five out of five Ichiban Moto stickers. I don't think anyone else could come close.
i heard somebody got six once.. they were that badass
That's amazing. I never knew there would be a method to remove rust chemically. I'll try it next time. Thanks for making the video.
This is probably one of the more simple 'how-to' videos. Very helpful.
Jared Stambaugh awesome ! happy to help !
this is more like a comedy hours than a tutorial yet im learning a whole lot! great vid.
Is the iron washer needed to make this work? If so, what else around the house can be used and/or how to tell if something is made of iron to use? Thanks
friend, good evening, I would like to know if you can use this project for me to remove the rust from parts of an old typewriter
Wow that is cool. I'm going to make one and go find rusty stuff.
i have about 10 gallons of nuts and bolts i would like to do... do you think one could use a big container with a huge metal tray to hold large quantities of bolts, to do at one time???... does it require more volts for higher amount of liquid???
Thats the rust you have removed what about corrosion? Can it be removed in the same way. And for how long should we let this whole process go on?
Holy cow! I need to try it myself. That part looks really good, no damage to it
I don't have washing soda in the UK but we have soda crystals is that the same thing
The soda crystals sold here are slightly different. They are "sodium carbonate decahydrate", which means they include water molecules which that American washing soda does not.
But one company actually recommends using their soda crystals for this purpose, albeit you may need more than a few sporkfuls. ua-cam.com/video/glqGDVul-jU/v-deo.html
Although there is at least one British company which sells washing soda (sodium carbonate) cheaply online if you really want that.
finally something i learnt in high school is used in real life now.
That is awesome what a fine finish that came out I use washing soda in HHO dry cell. I had built it acts as a good electrolyte for the cell
@ 1:14 was that Adam from Myth Busters?
shhhhhhh.....
It's Vsauce not Adam.
what would i do if i wanted to do this to the rim of a dirt bike wheel and put the rim in a tub, how much bicarb would i need and what size anode would be suitable and also what size battery/batteries
'Voltage grade assembly tape' haha excellent stuff. Keep up the good work. I also love the white wall tyres in the background 👍
thanks! and I posted a vid on how to upgrade tires to whitewalls.. bad ass!
What the heck is voltage grade assembly tape?!!
Ah. A joke. Doh
I had another look at the vid to see the whitewalls... very badass.
I used to use all kinds of labour nintendo methods to clean rusty old metal; but now this is my gold standard method. I was telling someone about it and he said, "haha, I think you mean chrome standard!" and I just looked at him and repeated, "no, gold standard. It means something that is the best thing for doing some thing.
For quicker results you can double up the amount of water you use or double up on the NaCO3PO..
gold never tarnishes and is self polishing
Here is an email from my cousin who worked in a Chrome plating factory his Dad owned for over 60 years... Micheal should know... that was his job for many years. So I guess it will work and I am going to try it now.
CARL,
I watched the video. It is obvious this will work. He actually did the
opposite of plating . The part was the anode.And the current pulled the
rust off. Mike
reefseeker
Will this work on the pitting that sometimes occurs on chrome cymbal stands after time? How often should that distilled water be replaced or is it still good and useful even after it now appears dirty?
Hi I have tried this method to clean up my bike shock absorbers and it works I have used Car battery for power supply.
Great looking result, If you sellotape two AA batteries together in series would it work twice as quickly?
Yes.
I have a glider (lawn furniture) that is very rusted. Can you suggest a way to handle large items other than immersing in the electrolyte solution?
Awesome video!!! What water to sodium bicarbonate ratio for 10 gallons of liquid? I want to put the top of a metal yard table in a kiddie pool (about 3ft ). What would the best power source for something that big? The table top is like a small metal lattice pattern.
As someone who has performed quite a few electrolysis experiments as of late I would like to warn people about electrolysis dangers using direct current such as alkaline batteries. Many electrostimulated energy transfers are used with AC current to heat liquids such as water which is a dangerous but very quick way to do so and has less of a chance of creating harmful biproducts because the ion diffusion has gaps in the cycle of alternating current unable to split the hydrogen atoms and connect them to the cathode. Direct current such as displayed in the video however can create a number of noxious and sometimes fatal gases even using neutral bases such as sodium carbonate the gas becomes trapped in bubble form and connects to the cathode and is released when the density is greater than the liquid containing it. Pure water will create hydrogen gas which even in small amount trapped can create a small explosion with flame. Adding Sodium to speed up the process of electron transfer as a bridge will result in sodium hydroxide, technically lye, which is why carbon is used to absorb it. But this is still dangerous stuff so ventilation is important even with a 1.5 volt AA the amount of gas that can build up over night could have the potential to be dangerous.
+Terry Heeter simple low voltage DC is very effective as electrons flow from negative to positive.
Yeah but I'm talking about leaving it on overnight hydrogen gas build up and other lewis based compounds that combine with the rust can even create arsenic gases because of the sulfur oxide. Just a fair warning ventilation is important that's all a great video, just even lower DC current can build up alot of hydrogen gas in just thirty minutes.
+Terry Heeter just let it run until the rust is gone, however long that is for what you are de-rusting
which material is hanged with copper one
I've learn that heat up baking soda (NaHCo3) will turn to washing soda (Na2Co3). don't know if this will woks?
I want ot do my bike frame. it's afull size dirt bike fram and i don't want to use an angle grinder so it'd be great if this would work. f i want to do the frame how huch of the ingredience will i need?
about four sporks per liter
+FUNG CHANG A spork has pics which makes it easier to measure.
With a bigger setup do you use a bigger power source? If so, is there a formula for power needed per solution? Thank you.
You need to limit the current flow, that is why a dry battery is ideal. A current regulated power supply is very costly, but you can use a normal DC power supply with a lamp in series with the plating bath. A car battery with the lamp in series will also work. To remove all the rust first, a 50% solution of hydrochloric acid (sold as spirit of salts in the UK) is much better than just scraping it off, since it removes the corrosion that would otherwise be left in the pitting. For a perfect repair, acid bath, electroplate, then fill any pitting with epoxy filler, sand down and then re-plate to cover the bare metal where you have sanded. the plating will not cover the tiny spots of filler, but if you spray paint the component the plating will prevent future corrosion from breaking through again.
So i can't use let's say a battery charger/ jump starter?
What current and voltage is reccomended? Could a rechargable nicad or nimh be used instead of a disposable battery? nimh has more power but nicad can be drained fully without damage (I think). thank you
yes u can it works faster with 2 amp
Hi, could this process work to treat corrosion from a fishing reel?
will this work for old tools from the 50s-70s with decades of old rust or should I just pitch those old tools?
yes, I should do a video on that
One full spork full... the SI unit of sodium carbonate
I attempted this solution to my rear fender, but am not getting it to work.. Using a large steel socket as an anode and attaching to AA battery. Any ideas why it's not working out for me? It's relatively cold (32 F) where I am doing this.
How many batteries should i do when i use big metal?
my mate has a tricked out yamaha cb500, and he says 'drilled discs' are better than solid, but mine are quite thick, (drilled discs are quite expensive) and wavy are better still, (mine feel wavy when i run my nail across it, is this the same?)
can you help?
What water you use? Distilled water?
What tool did you just use to cut through that copper rod? I want one!
Tom Henderson those are diamond blade shears grandpa brought back from the war
Ichiban Moto they look like really good quality.
What will happen If I just use tab water without soda powder? Hook up wall 120 vac
Can the anode be any type of steel?
Do you think this is better than using Vinegar?
I have a 1971 Yamaha 350 that was given to be via my aunt who just passed away recently. it has heavy rust on it. the bike only has 2500 miles on it, and the rust is because it was kept in a shed that was rotted out, and lots of moisture was able to reach the vulnerable parts that can rust out. The last it was tagged, and on the road was 1984. I need to do this on a large scale. could I use something like a battery charger? If so, how long should I keep it in the solution? Could it be done in less time as well? Also, any tips on getting rust out of the fuel tank? When she left it sit, there was a bit of fuel in the tank. Also, should I take the entire engine apart, and put all new seals in? I don't have a lot of money, so I need to keep it as cheap as I can.. Any help on this situation would be appreciated. Thanks!!
If the motor is not seized from rust, you could first perform a leakdown test on the motor, to see if the seals are leaking . You might be lucky, however years are the enemy of those old rubber seals, not use or miles. On an unknown motor that has been sitting exposed like that for many years, I would pull it apart. The cost of a seal and gasket kit a good investment to ensure everything inside is proper prior to dealing with the rusty outside of bits. If you will be stripping the bike down, you might consider just blasting everything. I do need to make a video on how to de-rust a fuel tank. I will add that to the list.
Ichiban Moto thanks for the info! I will be watching for a video showing how to remove rust from the fuel tank. Thanks again!!😎
Impressive and simple. Thanks for sharing a great idea !
nice___why you did not use acid or salt
Wow man you're genius! I have an old bike and i want to use this proces to remove rust from the frame. I want to subscribe your channel.
i love your videos man!!! you are like the Macgyver of motorcycles.I could not help but notice the Yamaha TX you have in this video. 500 or 750. I have an all original 74 tx500. But i turned into a cafe racer...what do i have to do to send something to you and have you make a video?????
It's actually a '78 XS500. the '73&'74 were TX, then they changed the name to XS500 in 1975
Can you make a DIY welding video, I heard you can modify a car battery to make tigs...
Also a painting video would be useful, someone said you can get good results using a fertilizer pump
I guess I should move with the times. When I was a young fella we used red for positive and black for negative... none of this 21st century new age pastel colour stuff.
Its called systematic racism. I remember blk being positive too. Now the system is designed to turn everything black or dark negative.
HEY...colours in France are a joke !!! ANY colour you like for live...BUT only blue for neutral
Been a electric chappie for over 60 years never seen such crap...seen in commercial equipment here . Live.... grey, black red, yellow, grey with a black tracer, white with a grey tracer..
When the regs in the UK were changed the Southern Irish did not accept, they applied logic...Red LIve...Black Neutral. Green Earth..
Every voltage above 1V is red..Simple but too uncomplicated for the IEE. I know as member I was there
Simple does not exist in this "hi tech" world
here in Philippines any colors are positive and any colors are negative :D
Don't want to argue but in the USA on a dc circuit, black is negative and red is positive as used on a 12 volt car.
The color coding is different for ac and dc systems as well as single phase and multi phase ac and hi voltage ac
I broke my spork. What is the conversion rate for a standard plastic fork from Taco Bell? I'm thinking 3:1.
TheGoatMumbler google could not find that for me... I will round up models from the various outlets and formulate a sport conversion graph..
youtube needs a video dedicated to sporkage
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If you get a battery you could end up removing some of the outer layers of the part making it smaller. it works faster but don't leave it in too long unless your part doesn't fit right and you need it a few micro meters smaller.
+Benjamin Becerra so it's like electrochemicalmachining > ? bad ass !
Hi Ichiban, can I use 12v 5a or 19v 3a or any adapters (connected to EU plug) for the power supply? I saw many videos on youtube only use 12v 2a. Why?
low amperage provides for an even plating process... higher amperage causes a rough surface
Ichiban Moto oh so the lower amperage the better it is but takes longer time? but how about the voltage? thanks
Is the spork metric or USCS?
How many forks is one spork?
Einar Jensen
Approx. 34
can you use this method on silver goods?
Does that water have to be distilled? Can I use tap water or bottled?
Jared Stambaugh melted ice water from your fridge or freezer is distilled water
Thanks for the info, I restore old guns as a hobby & this is great!
+Joseph Krestan a rich friend of mine bought a gallon of that fancy evaporust stuff and it worked a treat on his rusty gun... most people aren't rich, so just 'sayin
awesome. I knew this sort of thing was possible but didn't know it was this easy. thanks for the help.
what is you used kathod iron???
So If you reverse the polarity of the battery, will it deposit more rust onto the part?
I'd like to add some "patina" to some new chrome parts for my vintage `36 Webley-Vickers 50/80.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
+Mark Schmitz or you can just use this stuff: ua-cam.com/video/Ja6uqdaWkRc/v-deo.html
That was awesome! I love that I have that exact same drill!
it has never let me down PAPA!
if been rust in big body what i do like body car
When using a single battery there is little current. Those who decide to kick it up by using a car battery charger or higher voltage source should do so in a well ventilated area. As the current increases you should see more bubbles coming off the electrodes. That will be pure oxygen and hydrogen. Hydrogen is highly flammable, particularly so in the presence of extra oxygen.
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You can stretch balloons over the jar to collect the gases. They make great decorations for little kids' birthday parties.
buen video como se llama el material blanco que le pones gracias
hola, el polvo blanco es carbonato de sodio sencilla. Gracias por ver
HEY! What make is that pocket knife/multitool, which can chop 1/8" copper with the tiny scissors?
Neat-O-Matic video; I had no idea you could do this stuff with just a flashlight battery and some cleaning soda; thank you for sharing.
those are diamond blade shears
can I use my motorcycle battery as a power source for larger objects?
+nonnonsense1 just make sure to hook one side to hot, and the other to power
Im trying to de-rust a bunch of old Honda bolts for my car. Ive done this EXACT method & watched almost every video on the subject youtube can offer. I hook it my system up(currently using rebar as my poss & the part as my neg). After this is done all I see is a few bubbles from the part, then a ton on the rebar. Ive used washers, other bolts you name it..Still same result as if I have done this backwards. Example, I used a bolt I think came from a computer & instead of taking rust off, it took the shiny silver coating off the poss bolt & transferred all the color over the rust to the bolt I was trying to DE rust. This has happened on every attempt, I figure im missing something simple but I cant figure it out. This would be EXTREMELY helpful if I can get this to clean any of my bolts. Ive used vinegar( as well as other methods) & then rubbed several different types of oils on 10 of the same bolts, the only bolt that didn't re rest badly was the one that I put gun oil on(Mpro a little to costly for my project). Can anyone help? Is it working right maybe I just don't see it this way....ANY help would be greatly appreciated!!!
+Chem istry Electrons flow from negative to positive, so the part you want the rust removed from is negative. To protect the part after de-rusting, I plate it with zinc by reversing this process .
I think I was over looking a couple things due to watching many videos. I was afraid of leaving it connected the wrong way. To my knowledge a majority of the bubbles should be coming from the neg/part, not the positive but the pos side always bubbles more, no matter what. I had planned on trying to plate something if things worked out but Ill be great with just clean at the moment. I changed my set up & am giving it another shot on a non important part, with any luck it should work smoothly. Thanks!
This works, and it works well but very quickly it will flash rust back. What can be done to stop the flash rust?
zinc plating. I have a video on that
+Ichiban Moto Can you zinc plate the inside of a gas tank?
+laserfalcon na, just red kote it ( don't use kreem or por-15 junk)
Just where can I get one of those super cut anythang scissors?
+mailperson those are Swiss diamond blade shears my grandfather brought back from the war
They had Swiss Army knives back then?
+mailperson The Swiss are secretly behind every war ever fought.
I love how you measured the water with SI mL units and the carbonate in sporks XD
+Sky Pup of course :)
Will a larger battery produce quicker results?
Same thing in my mind, 1.5V battery isn't too little for this process.
don't you get he is teasing? Check when he cuts the thick cooper wire (which he claims it's from a hanger), he is using a small pliers which can't even cause a scratch on a wire that size.
1v5, AA batt is has enough juce for driveing that overnight?
low amperage
Ichiban Moto is that enough to do it?
LOL "spork full" I LOVE IT!! Thanks for cool vid!
+Jennifer Panelli accurate measurement is key !
can you use a battery charger that is 12v? (*car batt charger)
is this method can use for 1095 carbon steel sword? cuz i tried many method but still not 100% gone,still have black dots on the steel...help me,im almost giving up right now to remove deep rust on my katana..
Alternate chemical remover is hot (keep below boiling) 10% solution of citric acid. Also takes rust or blood stains out of textiles and leather. No electrical connections. More selective and gentle than naval jelly (aka, phosphoric acid). Citric acid commonly available in home canning supplies. Works well on fine threaded parts. If your 1095 surface is deeply pitted you may have no choice but to selectively abrade down and re-polish. That high carbon steel is notorious for easily rusting. Good luck and keep surface oiled if successful.
How many times you think about rust at night
That was seriously cool!
how the electrolysis water is to be prepare..
can its work for batery aa i.5 volt..
What about sodium tetracarbonate?
This is great. U got a new subscriber. But, I got a question for you. Does all type of metal work on this process?
Does that work with water marks???
this is the real badass. i want to rustify something just to try it. thanks!!
justify your rustify :D
Do you think I could do this with a brass trumpet?
+Audun Jemtland probably not, brass does not rust.. maybe try brasso or some tarnish remover?
Yeah. It's just that trumpet is laquered but the inside is raw brass...and chalk, get green gunk and limy and red. Don't know what is actually is and how to clean it.
Can't you "clean" almost anything with electrolysis?
Very useful tricks sir but it is really work out I don't know
Can i use 12 volt battery
What happens when you take a cell phone charger at about 7V instead of a batterie?
will this works with normal tap water, instead of distilled water? thank you. will super appreciate your kind response.
this video is a prank. He is just teasing. There are others which are more serious regarding the subject. That soda cannot even rust the arse of this guy. You need another chemicals.
This is so surreal.
+Barnekkid this one will have a sequel
Thanks. It is so simple to remove rust
Hey awesome video! I am currently trying this on the carburetor cover for my 1987 goldwing will post up some videos of how it goes. Thanks for the awesome idea!
Do you really need to have Copper wire in order to make it to works?
Nope, a normal steel wire will work, DO NOT use Stainless steel, It will make you Get cancer!
I want to rust off my boosted board but cant do all these things is there a simpler way
what is a boosted board? maybe you send it to me and I make a video?
would the process work quicker with more voltage
low and slow shows best results
alright thanks aha :) keep up the good videos
awesome voltage grade tape 😲, amazing sissors cuts copper
Is this for real? Does it work with such a small battery?