When An Ashari Scholar Got Confused By The Fitrah
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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This narration of al-Juwayni has been transmitted by ashari sources.
ومن كَلامه أيْضا أخبرنا يحيى بن أبي مَنصُور الفَقِيه وغَيره من كِتابهمْ عَن الحافِظ عبد القادِر الرهاوي عَن أبي العَلاء الحافِظ الهمذاني أخبرهُ قالَ أخْبرنِي أبُو جَعْفَر الهمذاني الحافِظ قالَ سَمِعت أبا المَعالِي الجُوَيْنِيّ وقد سُئِلَ عَن قَوْله تَعالى ﴿الرَّحْمَن على العَرْش اسْتَوى﴾ فَقالَ كانَ الله ولا عرش
وجعل يتخبط فِي الكَلام
فَقلت قد علمنا ما أشرت إلَيْهِ فَهَل عِنْد الضرورات من حِيلَة فَقالَ ما تُرِيدُ بِهَذا القَوْل وما تَعْنِي بِهَذِهِ الإشارَة قلت ما قالَ عارِف قطّ يا رباه إلّا قبل أن يَتَحَرَّك لِسانه قامَ من باطِنه قصد لا يلْتَفت يمنة ولا يسرة يقْصد الفَوْقِيَّة فَهَل لهَذا القَصْد الضَّرُورِيّ عنْدك من حِيلَة فبينها نتخلص من الفوق والتحت
وبكيت وبكى الخلق
فَضرب بِيَدِهِ على السرير وصاح بِالحيرَةِ وخرق ما كانَ عَلَيْهِ وصارَت قِيامَة فِي المَسْجِد فَنزل ولا يجبني إلّا بتأفيف الدهشة والحيرة وسمعت بعد هَذا أصْحابه يَقُولُونَ سمعناه يَقُول حيرني الهمذاني
انْتهى
طبقات الشافعية الكبرى للسبكي ٥/١٩٠
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Original lecture - ua-cam.com/video/FpaHQb5bhNk/v-deo.html
This narration of al-Juwayni has been transmitted by ashari sources.
ومن كَلامه أيْضا أخبرنا يحيى بن أبي مَنصُور الفَقِيه وغَيره من كِتابهمْ عَن الحافِظ عبد القادِر الرهاوي عَن أبي العَلاء الحافِظ الهمذاني أخبرهُ قالَ أخْبرنِي أبُو جَعْفَر الهمذاني الحافِظ قالَ سَمِعت أبا المَعالِي الجُوَيْنِيّ وقد سُئِلَ عَن قَوْله تَعالى ﴿الرَّحْمَن على العَرْش اسْتَوى﴾ فَقالَ كانَ الله ولا عرش
وجعل يتخبط فِي الكَلام
فَقلت قد علمنا ما أشرت إلَيْهِ فَهَل عِنْد الضرورات من حِيلَة فَقالَ ما تُرِيدُ بِهَذا القَوْل وما تَعْنِي بِهَذِهِ الإشارَة قلت ما قالَ عارِف قطّ يا رباه إلّا قبل أن يَتَحَرَّك لِسانه قامَ من باطِنه قصد لا يلْتَفت يمنة ولا يسرة يقْصد الفَوْقِيَّة فَهَل لهَذا القَصْد الضَّرُورِيّ عنْدك من حِيلَة فبينها نتخلص من الفوق والتحت
وبكيت وبكى الخلق
فَضرب بِيَدِهِ على السرير وصاح بِالحيرَةِ وخرق ما كانَ عَلَيْهِ وصارَت قِيامَة فِي المَسْجِد فَنزل ولا يجبني إلّا بتأفيف الدهشة والحيرة وسمعت بعد هَذا أصْحابه يَقُولُونَ سمعناه يَقُول حيرني الهمذاني
انْتهى
طبقات الشافعية الكبرى للسبكي ٥/١٩٠
Alot of ignorant Ashari maturidis don't get it, pointing above shows that Allah is free from being in the creation and limits, being above doesn't limit Him to direction as Imam Tahawi said using Quran 4 :126.
Ashari/Khulab oppose Islam, on at least 4! 1) "Allah's speech has no language."
Quran 42 : 7 - And thus We have revealed to you an Arabic Qur'an...
2) "It does not have sound" - Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
The Prophet (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) said, "On the day of Resurrection Allah will say, 'O Adam!' Adam will reply, 'Labbaik our Lord, and Sa`daik ' Then there will be a loud call (saying), Allah orders you to take from among your offspring a mission for the Nar...
- Bukhari 4741, Kitab Tafsir
3) "Allah's speech is not composed of consecutive letters or words."
Narrated Muhammad bin Ka'b Al-Qurazi:
"I heard 'Abdullah bin Mas'ud saying: 'The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) said: "[Whoever recites a letter] from Allah's Book, then he receives the reward from it, and the reward of ten the like of it. I do not say that Alif Lam Mim is a letter, but Alif is a letter, Lam is a letter and Mim is a letter."
- Tirmidhi 2910, Virtues of Quran
4) "text of the Qur'an are definately creations"
Quran 17 : 86 - And if We willed, We could surely take away that which We have revealed to you (i.e. this Qur'an).
Ibn Kathir - Ibn Mas`ud said, "A red wind will come to the people at end of time, from way of Syria, & **there will be nothing left in a man's Mushaf (copy of the Qur'an) or in his heart, not even one Ayah.''**
So the writing of the Quran is apart of Allah's revelation and uncreated speech, even if the materials and actions of creation are created.
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View of Ahlul Sunnah is the Quran is written and memorized and recited, it will return to Allah in end times and is uncreated.
Alot of ignorant Ashari maturidis don't get it, pointing above shows that Allah is free from being in the creation and limits, being above doesn't limit Him to direction as Imam Tahawi said using Quran 4 :126.
Baarakallaahu feekum, ikhwah. May Allaah keep us firm upon the fitrah and sunnah.
Ameen
Jazakallah akhi ibrahim.
It's from Al fatawa Al hamawiyya lecture .
Can you make a video on Ottoman Empire, if there was any Salafi/athari leaders in their reign (in the empire)
I think i heard in this podcast hosted by imran ibn mansur, that in the middle part of the ottoman history there was some leaders on the salafi aqeedah :
ua-cam.com/video/aQEFmFLfgis/v-deo.html
The brother on that podcast, abdurrahman of knowledge north has a series on the ottomans with two episodes called "dawn of the taymiyyan turks" and "rise of the taymiyyan turks":
ua-cam.com/play/PLGFQ-qdt_egSJ27Lxd9SR3_aj0oJFXodl.html
Perhaps you would find your answer there if keen
@@user-zu3fo8ck3p true, the banner of tawhid was/is with the Saud Family in the last 3 centuries, the late ottomons were busy fighting their call wallahu almusta'an.
@@user-zu3fo8ck3p But just his era was know as the golden age of the empire.
Go to knowledge north youtube channel... the brother has some good videos on the ottoman empire
SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHAT IS : SALAFI & WHABBI ?
ua-cam.com/video/u8y6GIN95Xo/v-deo.html
Wahabis dont exist. Many ignorant people use that term, for example in the country I am from-Azerbaijan- they call men who have beards and have pants above ankles ‘wahabis’.
Salafis are those who follow the salaf, which every Muslim should do. Many just don’t use the term, but they follow the salaf.