Great to hear about your previous experience with smart home tech. It sounds like you'll be absolutely fine tinkering with Loxone Config. I recommend getting the 1-Wire module to play around with. The DS18B20 devices can be bought for next to nothing and their use is only limited by the imagination. E.g. fix one to the outlet of the shower, just to detect a sudden rise in temperature. This can trigger the showering lighting scene. You can even glue one to the underside of the bath to detect when the bath is in use to trigger a scene and relaxing music! (I recommend a few inches up the bath, otherwise it triggers when just cleaning the bath with warm water!!)
Love that Rob. I played with 1-wire with Fibaro and it was pretty cool but I had not considered scene generation. I may just have time to install a few cables in the right places for that sort of fun. I do need to make sure the basic platform remains 100% reliable but I really do want to have some fun features. In my early automation days we used to refer to a SWMBO test which may not be politically correct these days but how every you look at it thats true. The basic stuff MUST just work and toys should not annoy.
@@JurassicJungle I didn't have the budget for humidity sensors, so I also use 1-wire temp sensors on shower and bath to determine how long the extractor fan runs for afterwards. They only failed me when I tried to put too many sensors on the one bus!!
@@robm846 How long did you make the bus cables? I wanted to use then for UFH temperature sensors but the installer advised against it. I installed a few other sensors (I think thermostatic resistors) but Can't currently connect them up.
I was wondering about the presence detection, particularly when people are sleeping and underfloor heating (for an example). As for open source solutions, it still seems there is some way to go, short of developing something yourself and not dependent on a permanent internet connection. Probably the most important element is the hardware side, rather than software.
Hi Chris. It will be interesting to see how well occupancy detection really works in particular the audio detection to maintain or end a scene. I am sure I will be reporting back on how well it works or my frustrations later.
Brilliant video, could you provide a video of how you went about first fix with loxone, and if possible as a future video second fix and programming. Would be interesting to see the process and possibly costing differentials.
Hi, Thanks so much for that request. We are in the last few days of first fix wiring. It has been very interesting to go through the decisions on what to automate and how. I am working with a great installer who is supporting me and my local electrician. I plan to film a first fix video in the next week or so covering the wiring we have decided to install and what we have considered to mitigate mistakes (I made one so far). What costing differentials are you interested in? I do plan to share some of the costs and our decision process. What is important to me is that the basic platform works solidly and we can add funky functions later, As it is the core of the home it can't be a flaky hobby project.
@@JurassicJungle The process of building a house to how you want is brilliant. I’m definitely interested in how you develop the core system, and then build on it. Especially integrating the MHEV, security and lighting. Costing wise, I’m interested in how it would vary from just paying for programming to getting someone to do the whole job. Maybe even comparing to a “normal” rewire. But keep up the good work, and I’m looking forward to seeing the end result.
I am not sure I can comare to a standard rewire but will ask my electrician what he would have quoted. I could certainly have done things at lower cost, for example not going for the touch pure switches which I think will be the biggest single cost for Loxone.@@m6758-c3g
Thanks Mark. I think I was using Comfort when you ran the event in Hatfield. Things are a little easier now we have more information on the internet but sadly the standards and interoperability are still not fixed.
Hi There. I am working with Hugh from Thames Valley Automation. Hugh is based near Oxford but can cover Dorset no problem. He did a pre first fix visit and will be building the panel off site before brining it here later this month to connect to all of my wiring and do the commisioning. If you have watched Loxone training videos you may well have seen Hugh as he is ex Loxone. I would certainly suggest you get in touch with Hugh and discuss your project, I would be very happy to recommend him based on my project so far. www.thamesvalleyautomation.co.uk/ @thamesvalleyautomation3217
I am not certain if it csan be done directly but ic can certianly be done via a gateway device such as Loxberry or 1Home. I have a new 1Home mox coming on Friday so will take a look.
Great to hear about your previous experience with smart home tech. It sounds like you'll be absolutely fine tinkering with Loxone Config. I recommend getting the 1-Wire module to play around with. The DS18B20 devices can be bought for next to nothing and their use is only limited by the imagination. E.g. fix one to the outlet of the shower, just to detect a sudden rise in temperature. This can trigger the showering lighting scene. You can even glue one to the underside of the bath to detect when the bath is in use to trigger a scene and relaxing music! (I recommend a few inches up the bath, otherwise it triggers when just cleaning the bath with warm water!!)
Love that Rob. I played with 1-wire with Fibaro and it was pretty cool but I had not considered scene generation. I may just have time to install a few cables in the right places for that sort of fun. I do need to make sure the basic platform remains 100% reliable but I really do want to have some fun features. In my early automation days we used to refer to a SWMBO test which may not be politically correct these days but how every you look at it thats true. The basic stuff MUST just work and toys should not annoy.
@@JurassicJungle I didn't have the budget for humidity sensors, so I also use 1-wire temp sensors on shower and bath to determine how long the extractor fan runs for afterwards. They only failed me when I tried to put too many sensors on the one bus!!
@@robm846 How long did you make the bus cables? I wanted to use then for UFH temperature sensors but the installer advised against it. I installed a few other sensors (I think thermostatic resistors) but Can't currently connect them up.
I was wondering about the presence detection, particularly when people are sleeping and underfloor heating (for an example).
As for open source solutions, it still seems there is some way to go, short of developing something yourself and not dependent on a permanent internet connection. Probably the most important element is the hardware side, rather than software.
Hi Chris. It will be interesting to see how well occupancy detection really works in particular the audio detection to maintain or end a scene. I am sure I will be reporting back on how well it works or my frustrations later.
Brilliant video, could you provide a video of how you went about first fix with loxone, and if possible as a future video second fix and programming. Would be interesting to see the process and possibly costing differentials.
Hi, Thanks so much for that request. We are in the last few days of first fix wiring. It has been very interesting to go through the decisions on what to automate and how. I am working with a great installer who is supporting me and my local electrician. I plan to film a first fix video in the next week or so covering the wiring we have decided to install and what we have considered to mitigate mistakes (I made one so far). What costing differentials are you interested in? I do plan to share some of the costs and our decision process. What is important to me is that the basic platform works solidly and we can add funky functions later, As it is the core of the home it can't be a flaky hobby project.
@@JurassicJungle The process of building a house to how you want is brilliant. I’m definitely interested in how you develop the core system, and then build on it. Especially integrating the MHEV, security and lighting. Costing wise, I’m interested in how it would vary from just paying for programming to getting someone to do the whole job. Maybe even comparing to a “normal” rewire. But keep up the good work, and I’m looking forward to seeing the end result.
I am not sure I can comare to a standard rewire but will ask my electrician what he would have quoted. I could certainly have done things at lower cost, for example not going for the touch pure switches which I think will be the biggest single cost for Loxone.@@m6758-c3g
Thanks for tagging us. Very similar journey to ours and great decision to go with Loxone 👍
Thanks Mark. I think I was using Comfort when you ran the event in Hatfield. Things are a little easier now we have more information on the internet but sadly the standards and interoperability are still not fixed.
Could you give me a contact for loxone consultant in Dorset, please ?
Hi There. I am working with Hugh from Thames Valley Automation. Hugh is based near Oxford but can cover Dorset no problem. He did a pre first fix visit and will be building the panel off site before brining it here later this month to connect to all of my wiring and do the commisioning. If you have watched Loxone training videos you may well have seen Hugh as he is ex Loxone. I would certainly suggest you get in touch with Hugh and discuss your project, I would be very happy to recommend him based on my project so far. www.thamesvalleyautomation.co.uk/ @thamesvalleyautomation3217
Do you know if Loxone can interact with MQTT?
I am not certain if it csan be done directly but ic can certianly be done via a gateway device such as Loxberry or 1Home. I have a new 1Home mox coming on Friday so will take a look.