Fixing Bad Percussion Writing
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Unfortunately bad writing discourages students who think they are just bad and can’t play the parts. It also eats up rehearsal time. You end up working on technical passages that don’t add any value to the music and teach bad technique.
Yep...and unfortunately so many high schools don't even have a drum instructor in place to make any adjustments at all.
Yeah many high schools have their band director write the drum parts or use stock parts. Thankfully I had Mike Jackson from the Bluecoats and Pete Sapadin from blue devils as my instructors in high school, they wrote great books
@@drummersnare6276 casually name drops some of the biggest names in drum corps as their percussion instructor. Good for you man. That’s awesome
@@drummersnare6276 🍪?
@@lucscott3631 I know we were really lucky. Some schools aren’t so lucky
Great stuff!
Hi musescore
how do you only have 4 likes and 1 reply lmao
This guy won a gold medal in quad tenors,listen to him.
More so than that, he's like one of the best drummers in the world. You dont just make a military band without being the top of the top
"Quad tenors" lmao pick one theyre the same thing 😂
@@SALEENS7GTR5 have you watched him play that Sungazer drum corps part? i had no doubts after that (and the only doubt i had before that was that he didn’t know about Sungazer)
Quad tenors? Lol
@@drummersnare6276 Hmm yes the floor is made out of floor
These videos where you fix writing are genuinely so helpful! I'm trying to get into writing, so it's awesome to learn things I may not get from the classroom!
Good for you! Hope you enjoy what you do🎉
Eric needs a series where he makes good percussion writing terrible and almost near impossible to play. 😂
Either they didn’t have a practice pad or… it was a damn snare player. We had a guy that only played snare write a couple cadences for us… It was riddled with impossible moves. That’s the benefit of playing tenors. We can actually write 😉
Or it was a shitty tenor player
that last tenor part was a crime against humanity
I wrote it several years ago. I apologize greatly 😂
@@pzazz. You wrote it?
@@connorericksonmusic yep
I am an 8th grade percussionist (I play mainly bass) I also right music in my free time. I like to watch these types of videos fixing music to help me get better at writing and what to look out for.
That's cool
Very cool
Hey! The first one was the music my band director gave to me
congratulations on being featured! Do you think your band director will implement Eric's suggestions?
@@RedDogMamaHD I don't know, I'm to ask if we can just play the better version
@@Dailysnaretricks101 Do it! Then let us know what he says!
Always a good morning when EMC uploads
True
Having grown up in the NYC school system, I feel I was robbed. I was never offered music.
I have tried to learn bass guitar as an adult and it is not easy or natural for me.
I admire your knowledge of music, imagination, and your video production skills. Bravo Zulu!
The tenor parts got me good lol
I am starting to write tenor music as well and I always make sure they aren't awkward. I definitely need to change the un-symmetrical double stop though
This is my favorite series! I wrote that last part haha... not my finest moment
Lol
It's all good! Tenor writing is some of the hardest stuff to do. Just make sure to play your tenor rounds out to see if they work!
@@TylerDunphy oh yeah, I'm a college tenor player now haha, I wrote that a few years back 😅
@@pzazz. ah. I respect that, I hate looking at my old crap haha. I’m also a college tenor player now! My stuff from years back probably looks similar
@@TylerDunphy that's sweet!! I played snare every year until now but I've been getting more into tenors and writing correctly for them for a little while
Good morning! This is video number 11 of me asking Eric to make a set of tenors out of differently sized snare drums.
Even 4 identical snares tuned higher and lower would be an interesting effect. Neat idea!
boy do i have a video to show you
He has in fact made snenors.
That last one… your fixes are always so satisfying, I’m always going “thaaaaank yoooou!!!”
Getting right to the point
Eric your editing is so good! As well as correcting and explaining the notes.
And I'm smearing the chapstick on the screen again, so dry lips you have!
Hello from Russia! I am a beginner drummer. I tried to play at a concert with slipknot songs, and the drum teacher told me that the songs use rolls on the snare drum (from Jay Weinberg). I ordered sticks with a "keg"-tip (I was looking for a round one). But they were ProMark TXDC50W and they are big... I decided to find out what "system blue" means... found Scott Johnson. Next, I just searched UA-cam for "drum rudiments"...and found your video. Thank you, you opened the big world of percussion for me!
EMC is the best channel on UA-cam, change my mind
That 2nd re-write is a great free tutorial for any young band director who finds that they need to write a cadence, and/or be the battery instructor. I hope the composer gets to see this video and doesn't mind the constructive feedback.
I love this channel so much. Ive watched almost all of your videos. One of my favorites is the 12 Drumline cadences. I watch at least 2 EMCproductions videos every day, and I don’t watch videos very often. I never miss new video
Thanks you for all the tips, beats, rythms, everything. its always so entertaining to watch. My high school’s battery was always hard to get into but they need a whole new bassline next year, so Im practicing snare and the bass players are helping me with their music. I may not understand everything in your videos but it actually still really helps. For now im stuck in front enemble, but that comes with its own perks. One of the vibe(raphone)s was supposed to be a tenor/quads this year but stayed in pit instead. They gave me their snare basics packet and now I practice every day. I REALLY need to work on my traditional grip, I dont think I’m doing it right but it kind of works. got any tips? Thank you so much! ❤️
I am not Eric but I am (was) a snare drummer (as you can see on my channel). A couple things that helped me improve my traditional grip were: (1) think of the motion of your wrist as the same type of motion as turning a doorknob, (2) don't curl your fingers in TOO much, let it be gentle, (3) the contact point between your thumb and the first knuckle of your pointer finger should make a capital T, (4) the stick should rest on the most distal segment of your ring finger, (5) make sure to stretch and work on things like slow legatos (infinity on a hand, playing on a drum pad along to music you like) because the grip and motion is not intuitive at all and takes time to become comfortable with.
@@TheMokeleMbembe tysm!! ill definitely try it out. The way I was doing it looked a little right but It was hard to accent with the left and it hurt my bottom 2 fingers after a small amount of time so there’s no way it was.
Thank you ❤️
@@justsomeguywholikesdrums1481 Absolutely, and good luck with trying to get onto snare! Also, don't take this as me saying 'no pain no gain' bc generally pain in drumming indicates something is wrong, but even so - I *still* get major calluses & occasionally blisters on my left ring finger where the stick rests/contacts, when I start drumming again after a long time off.
The 'hard to accent w/ left' part sounds like, it was difficult to get enough wrist rotation to get the stick up high - right? Which, it's something that takes time for your body to build up the familiarity and muscle to do. Those forearm muscles aren't ones we typically use for a lot of exertion, so the demand that drumming places on them takes time for them to get used to. Once I tried to teach myself traditional grip on my right hand, to get a taste of what younger players were going through, and even knowing good technique and correcting myself constantly, it was very difficult to do and didn't reach the capability of my left hand.
One other thing to keep in mind w it - a lot of people extend their left arm a bit too far, putting the stick at like 9 o clock (if you're holding the drum and looking at it like a clock). I feel like the left stick at set position should cross the rim at about 7:30 or 8 o clock, mirroring what kind of naturally happens with the right hand. This might seem picky or weird, but it actually helps get the right wrist motion.
@@TheMokeleMbembe hey i know its been a little while but do yu have any tips on evening out my left hand with my right hand? Not just traditional, for matched grip it’s the same thing. Ive been getting a lot of power from my right hand and doing a lot of single stroke 8ths, triplets, 16ths, etc, on my right but my left is kinda weak and can’t go as far as the right. If you have anything it would be appreciated! also any advice on being on drumline overall in general? thanks so much!
Great series wrote the second one, first time writing, and I feel extrememly bad for EMC rewriting it sorry for all the pain... I'm happy to say I now know how to actually write and made a better cadence that makes sense
GREAT VIDEO IDEA😀
you should definitely write drumline parts to the song "can can". i think people would really enjoy that and it would be amazing.
That thumbnail is gold
The way I got a ad of you playing air drums before this vid.😭💀
Nice job EMC
I'm a volunteer percussion instructor for the high school I graduated from, and I grew up learning memorized parts and the drumline still operates that way. This year I'm trying to get everything written so we don't have to depend just on my memory on what they should be playing. What software does EMC use? Every single comment he says on how to fix things I completely agree on and would do the same thing and am currently teaching the drumline to do, but I need a way to write everything down and this software looks PERFECT. Any direction would be amazing so I can begin solidifying our line. They're doing absolutely AMAZING this year now that we've built momentum the last couple of years, and I want to keep that going.
Musescore
@@EMCproductions Awesome, thank you!! It's really nice seeing certain ways to write parts like the slashes for all 4 basses in unison. I'm definitely looking forward to more of these videos so I can take notes.
love these videos!!
It's about time for an update video to see how many bands/players put these fixes in place.
mornin' emc!
Straight into it I see
at 9:46 your interpretation is objectively better as it shows the player where beat 3 is. it's usually fine to blur the lines between 1&2 and 3&4, but it really messes with people when you cross beats 2&3 without a tie in the non percussion world as well.
Facts. The bass parts I write look silly sometimes when a whole big uniso figure is accented everywhere except on the rim clicks.
And I mean it. You better give that rim a little love tap then beat that head like it owes you money. Those mallets are expensive
first! emc is the #1 channel on youtube!
This is why I'm so happy that my band director did percussion.
So informative- Thankyou
I would be curious for, the next time you do this, for someone to submit a professional drumline part that is written badly for EMC to critique.
idk why but for me the melody played in 12:13 was fire
love this
This was great. 👍🏾👍🏾
That poison beat was dope
Laughed so hard at the very awkward tenor arounds on the third video.
The black socks in this video really make it for me. ;)
Great video
5:30 We have a part in our bass cadence where we do some ff rim clicks and my buddy cracked one of his mallets
no he played ffffffff
I'm accidently learning things this is amazing also he looks way better with a beard
12:12 First measure of snare part: Poison by Bel Biv Devoe lol
Video 3 of commenting for a collab between Steven Sassafrass VI and Clarence Boudreaux.
I got so worried that Eric would feature the cadence that I submitted. I definitely wouldn't be able to sleep tonight.
Is there a guide anywhere that may help us non-percussionist with writing out parts that at least come within the ballpark of reasonableness?
The entire piece at 8:00 has an odd feel to it. Can't say I would select that one for my drum line.
there ought to be a different notation for the type of "both notes are equal volume and pretty far apart in time" flam that people write when they want you to sound like the intro to my hero by the foo fighters, which is a pretty different flavour to the "very close, controlled quiet grace note with a loud main note" flam traditionally meant by the notation. i get the impression that the first kind is what people want when they put a flam at the end of a roll.
Hi love the vids
Where can I find a good list of the do's and don'ts ?
6:22 That’s exactly what my band director says.
fortississimo
3:55 a drag would be good there
What music writer are you using, love your vids btw!
can you tell me where i can find this tenor pad set?
If you haven’t can you make a video where you go over every type of hit and string of hits or technique
What is that second to last cadence bro I love the way that sounds at 12:19
9:23 I do that tap off cause the people before me did it but I can’t find where it’s from? If it’s called the “poisoned” tap off I can’t find that either
nevermind it’s from bell biv devoe - poison I knew I’ve heard it before
What is the name of the tenor pad you used in the video
What software are you working in, and did the drum sounds come with it?
Did you get a new tenor pad?
How do you submit sheet music to him to fix??
I once had a timpani part and i showed it to the lead timpanist of the local philharmonic orchestra at the end of a master class for advice on pitches and my teacher came over and explained how bad the writing was for every part and they had to rewrite the trombone parts(it was kinda a trombone feature)
Just a quick question, have you ever auditioned for the Top Secret Drum Corps
Who do I submit my writing for the next video? I'm new to percussion writing and would love feedback!
What music editing software do you use?
How do I submit a piece for you to review?
Wish I had my drums tracked so I could send him some and get his opinions
HI - Which score writing program are you using?
I think a cool video in the same vein as this would be a stock drumline tutorial. Unfortunately sometimes composers with no drumline experience end up writing parts.
Say I'm a composer wth little drumline experience. How do| I write a stock drumline part that gives drum instructors something to play with and doesn't suck too bad in case a school doesn't have a drum instructor?
That's the video I'd like to see.
Which sticks are you using?
Triple forte😢😢😢😂
What do you use to make music?
Do you write music for marching bands?
This straight made my morning ideky but watching this was super entertaining hilarious and even helpful for learning things aboht writing music for drumline stuff 👌🏻🤌🏻
What program are you using to do your drum music
Imagine the writers of these pieces seeing this 😂
They sent them tho
Can someone put the website he is useing for this video
How him write for tenor on musescore, q search a lor but a don't, i'm brazillian, maybe the name is diferent ?
Recently on my last year in my high school line i looked at the tenor part after our tenor player begged me to help em and rewrite it after the drum tech refused
I saw some weird writing
It was a cut time parade tune that we play for memorial day and 4th of july and there was a point where every drum instrument enters a roll at a different time and they all end with a shot
It was 1 2 1 shot
The tenors came in on 2 and had their shot on the next beat so it sounded like
1 2 shot shot
Then the forbidden tenor part with sixteenth note triplets up from drum 1 to drum 4 where i rewrote it as each sextuplet was on 1 drum so drum 2 then 1
It was accented as sextuplets
Did you ever receive your XymoX rims yet?
anyone know how to write double stops in musescore???????
What notation software is this?
6:54 FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS MY VIEWPOINT
CRESCENDOS SHOULD BE BROUGHT OUT ESPECIALLY FP’S AND PIANO TO FORTE
11:21 omg that gave me a mini heart attack
Rim shot crossover
How can I send my cadence to you
At least none of these are the In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida solos!
He spoke drum
Quality
0:55 aaaahh.. So thats how.. 🙂
Hi, you use logiciel ?
What software is he using
I have a question. How do you write the sticking out like you did? Did you have to repeatedly add staff text or is there a key bind I can find to do that?
The same place you go to for staff text, all the way down there’s a “sticking” option and it lets you write it faster
@@OMGitsEricE gracias mí amigo
control + L works best it’s the lyrics options it’s faster and better in my opinion than the Sticking option
@EMCProductions. I have a handwritten copy of my high schools cadence from 20 years ago. I'd love to hear you play it on your channel. How can I get this to you. It be so amazing to hear it once again. Thanks
You misspelled EMCProductions, I'm afraid he probably couldn't reach you
@@fngf3501 youtube won't let you @ mention someone
I keep getting confused about why you have headphones on. Then I realized that you have the tempo going in them.
Day 2 of asking to combine all your drums and cymbals into 1 set?