Lotte Reiniger: The animation genius you've probably never heard of | BBC Ideas

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  • Опубліковано 5 лис 2018
  • We’ve all heard of Walt Disney. But what about Lotte Reiniger? Meet the unsung heroine of early animation.
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  • @mr.t3440
    @mr.t3440 5 років тому +65

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  • @theannoyedmrfloyd3998
    @theannoyedmrfloyd3998 4 роки тому +18

    The Tale of the 3 Brothers in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1.

    • @RoxieMarquez_marroxeli
      @RoxieMarquez_marroxeli 4 роки тому +2

      Yes, I think someone brought up that example when we learned about her in animation class.

    • @arnaudwurm-munoz1325
      @arnaudwurm-munoz1325 10 місяців тому

      Thats it! I just put a comment about itbut you solve my question! Thks!

  • @AlviTVBD
    @AlviTVBD 5 років тому +22

    Thanks for enlightening us, BBC group.

  • @debkanchan
    @debkanchan 5 років тому +74

    Another true genius who never became known

    • @MariaChrysafidi
      @MariaChrysafidi 3 роки тому +3

      She is known to those who love art and she is finally becoming known, I think and I hope 🙏💜

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      @milohugo2269 2 роки тому

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      @zahiredward3884 2 роки тому

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  • @LaundryFaerie
    @LaundryFaerie 4 роки тому +8

    Just saw "The Adventures of Prince Achmed" tonight. It was gorgeous, with remarkable visual effects, especially for the 1920s. And the Disney people pretty clearly, erm, 'borrowed' Reiniger's transformation battle between two magicians to create that duel between Merlyn and Madam Mim in "The Sword and the Stone."
    It seems to me that Lotte Reiniger's story would make a fascinating biopic.

    • @ramonsancheztorello7111
      @ramonsancheztorello7111 3 роки тому +1

      "Borrowed"... Perhaps (it's not even confirmed in any source) could have served as inspiration for some animator of the studio, but apart from the fact that they are two magicians fighting in animal forms, can you tell me how these two sequences are "so similar" to claim that Disney "clearly borrowed" the scene?... 🙄
      The movie The Sword in the Stone is really based on the 1938 novel of the same title, by T. H. White, and he wrote the wizards' duel between Merlyn and Madame Mim.

  • @lagerry1
    @lagerry1 4 роки тому +4

    Instant memory recall for those of us as kids watching BBC TV in the 50's

  • @darthbriboy
    @darthbriboy 5 років тому +22

    That was fascinating.

  • @BuddyL
    @BuddyL 5 років тому +25

    An unsung hero.👏🏿
    Not surprised to the 01:15 point that Disney stole her ideas, considering he stole the ideas for Disneyland (amongst others).

    • @willlyon7129
      @willlyon7129 5 років тому +2

      I wish Lotte would sued Walt

    • @Leesoldier12
      @Leesoldier12 4 роки тому +3

      I am not sure. I think Disney adapted Reiniger's technique into drawing animation, but did he ever claim that the multiplane camera was his idea?

    • @cafec-dt8lk
      @cafec-dt8lk 2 роки тому

      @@Leesoldier12 yes he did, he patented Lotte's idea and claimed it as his own. She invented the first multiplane camera

    • @Leesoldier12
      @Leesoldier12 2 роки тому

      @@cafec-dt8lk where did you find that information?

    • @Laura-ef3mm
      @Laura-ef3mm 2 роки тому +2

      Not to justify disney, but as far as I can see, the use of the multiplane camera in both was quite different. Lottie seems to have used it solely to generate depth in terms of the contrast between the light-dark figures of figures at different distances (at least for the most part), while Disney "refined" it and used it to generate depth through movements in the travelings especially, displacing the different layers in order to generate the classic illusion that what is closer moves faster, and what is farther slower.
      In that sense, the multi-plane camera for both, although similar, served quite different purposes, and were quite different too.

  • @mutualbeard
    @mutualbeard 3 роки тому +3

    It's often the case that the innovators are shoved aside in the rush of the entrepreneurs. Let us not forget her work.

  • @RoxieMarquez_marroxeli
    @RoxieMarquez_marroxeli 4 роки тому +4

    Interestingly enough, watch the end credits for Thor Ragnarok (Disney owned as well). Animation students keep her work alive.

  • @britneycampbell5436
    @britneycampbell5436 24 дні тому

    This reminded me of the shadow puppetry used in the shows they mentioned, sure, but my first thought was Shadow from Bear in the Big Blue House lol I'm so glad when I see artists even now keeping puppetry and dying animation techniques alive in the age of CGI!

  • @pdxrailtransit
    @pdxrailtransit 5 років тому +1

    Very well done. Thank you!

  • @anderonia1
    @anderonia1 4 роки тому +1

    Fascinating. Thank YOU.

  • @behrampatel4872
    @behrampatel4872 4 місяці тому +1

    this is very, very informative . Thank you

  • @ThumbdownMan
    @ThumbdownMan 5 років тому +9

    I've been watching youtube since 2008. this is the first time i've heard of her. thanks.

  • @annab9994
    @annab9994 2 роки тому +1

    I know about her, since I had a chance to watch her brilliant works. However thank you for this well deserved reminder 👍🏻

  • @thegrimmreader3649
    @thegrimmreader3649 Рік тому

    Thank you for this!!!

  • @duncanpurves7955
    @duncanpurves7955 7 місяців тому

    I had the privilege of being shown some of her films in my first year of school in 1971.

  • @demonseaknight6482
    @demonseaknight6482 Рік тому +1

    I mainly learned about Lotte in my computer games design course for the subject of 2D animation i'm actually watching this now for one of my assignments to talk about the timeline of 2D animation.

  • @Langkowski
    @Langkowski Рік тому +2

    Well, this vidoe makes it sound like Disney stole the idea for the multiplane camera from Lotte Reiniger. But his former partner had already made a version in 1933. If he got the idea independently or was inspired by others, I can't tell. From Wikipedia:
    "An early form of the multiplane camera was used by Lotte Reiniger for her animated feature The Adventures of Prince Achmed (1926). Berthold Bartosch, who worked with Reiniger, used a similar setup in his film L'Idee (1932).
    In 1933, former Walt Disney Studios animator/director Ub Iwerks invented the first multiplane camera using movable layers of flat artwork in front of a horizontal camera using parts from an old Chevrolet automobile.
    The technicians at Fleischer Studios created a distantly related device, called the Stereoptical Camera or Setback, in 1934. Their apparatus used three-dimensional miniature sets built to the scale of the animation artwork."

  • @diezgp
    @diezgp 5 років тому

    Beautiful!

  • @tadashi_161
    @tadashi_161 5 років тому +1

    Great. It is like the beer Budweiser. Firstly introduced by the brewer by Czech's brewing comoany, but now is well known as it it were brewed originally by the US brewing company.

  • @Leesoldier12
    @Leesoldier12 4 роки тому +3

    why do i have a feeling that soon, someone is going to make a biography movie about her?

  • @ramonsancheztorello7111
    @ramonsancheztorello7111 3 роки тому +17

    This video contains incompleted and misrepresented information and must be analyzed point by point:
    First, to clarify certain things, The Adventures of Prince Achmed is not the first animated film in history, it's only considered the oldest surviving animated film, two earlier ones were made in Argentina by Quirino Cristiani (1896-1984) between 1917 and 1918, but unfortunely they are considered lost. Cristiani was also the first person to create animation solely using cardboard cutouts.
    Second, Walt Disney himself never claim that Snow White was the first animated movie. If you look at the original Snow White poster or the theatrical trailer from 1937 you will notice that it clearly says "Walt Disney in His First Full-Length Animated Production" not "The First Animated Film in History".
    And third, Disney taking credit for the multiplane camera is not a steal or plagiarism case, as this video seems to suggest, and Disney's multiplane camera was not developed in 1933, but in 1937 by William Garity. It was Ub Iwerks who created his own version of the multiplane camera in 1933, when he had separated from the Disney company and led his own studio... Anyway, about the history of the multiplane camera, the facts have to be put in their true context:
    As the same time Reiniger developed her film, Disney was occupied with running his Laugh-o-Gram's cartoon shorts, subsequently losing the studio to bankruptcy, then establishing the Disney Brothers' Studio in 1923 and producing Alice comedies. There isn't any recorded incident of Disney or his immediate team traveling to Germany, much less "spying" on Reiniger in her garage studio. The multiplane camera and animation desk is a case of simultaneous invention, where people invented similar devices within the same time frame. At that time (1920s-1930s) the communication and information media that we have today did not exist and the developments made by animation studios were kept secret, so as not to give an advantage to the competition. There are multiple cases of simultaneous invention, including the calculus, radio, theory of evolution, telephone, or theory of relativity. It was only attributed to a person when they visites the patent office.
    Walt wanted to make his first feature film as realistic as possible, so while he already had a patent for a mounted camera on a table he called the Art of Animation, he needed a camera with more freedom to move. So it was refined by introducing the ability to adjust the position of the camera itself, making it technically superior than any other version and making Disney's multiplane camera the most sophisticated and technologically advanced of that time.
    In addition, Reiniger used her early prototype of the camera for a completely different purpose than the Disney company. Reinigier used it to create special effects, such a lighting. The Disney company used its camera in a way that was much more elaborate - to create movement through depth. They're not really comparable.
    Some people have also published articles and claimed that Reiniger "inspired" Walt Disney to make films based on fairy tales. This is also untrue. Disney was fascinated by fairy tales since he was a young kid and in fact his first short cartoon films were fairy tales like Cinderella (1922) or Little Red Riding Hood (1922).
    It's truly unfortunate that an early figure in the history of animation like Reiniger, with such a personal style of animated silhouettes has to be rescued from oblivion by continually comparing and confronting her with the figure of Walt Disney.

    • @Langkowski
      @Langkowski Рік тому +1

      Some people just want to tell a story about underdogs so badly that they are cheating. Also, there were a few others animated features between Lotte Reiniger's movie and Snow White, but as far as I know, none of them were hand-drawn on cels like Snow White.
      I think the most sophisticated multiplane camera was made by the Don Bluth studio.

  • @dobbsgraphica4988
    @dobbsgraphica4988 Рік тому

    Thank you. So often these stories eventually surface. The original inventors the true artist, the copier a greedy thief. But I'm happy to know the owner of this magical medium.

  • @godslaya4563
    @godslaya4563 5 років тому +1

    Lovely video

  • @iulaihe51299
    @iulaihe51299 Рік тому

    I also love shadow puppetry

  • @lseditions493
    @lseditions493 2 роки тому

    So beautiful

  • @james83992
    @james83992 5 років тому +1

    I've heard of her and seen her films.

  • @arnaudwurm-munoz1325
    @arnaudwurm-munoz1325 10 місяців тому

    Theres something I just don't understand, where in the Harry Potter movie Lotte was used as a referene or inspiration? The only element I am only suspecting its when Harry, Ron and Hermione are learning the story of Beetles the bard : the tales of the deadtly hollows which we can see a beautiful cinematic just like Lotte Reineger and with some modern technics with computer. But it was in the 1rst part of Harry Potter 8 at Lovegood home.

  • @showman139
    @showman139 Рік тому

    Are there dvds of her works? I found the adventures of Prince Achmed. I couldn't find anything else that would play in America.

  • @meimeilei
    @meimeilei 4 роки тому

    I was so scared of her cartoons when I was younger 😥

  • @hangman7655
    @hangman7655 5 років тому +9

    *That‘s how Disney works*

  • @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat
    @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat 2 роки тому

    (From the last second of Hazbin Hotel which shows her quote.

  • @bertiewhistlepipe3715
    @bertiewhistlepipe3715 3 роки тому +3

    Girl power! ..no wonder she kept her own name when she got married though, no woman wants to be called Lotte Koch!

    • @Lululein90
      @Lululein90 7 місяців тому

      What is so bad about the name?

  • @merveillekabamba3529
    @merveillekabamba3529 5 років тому +5

    Wow! This is so empowering for women

  • @smogus5806
    @smogus5806 5 років тому +1

    Ey. Das me

  • @Nonorama
    @Nonorama 5 років тому +5

    Unsung? I don't know if it is due to being in this industrie myself (animation) but Lotte Reniger is historicaly a well known figure.
    Even if you're not an animator, if you use your head for a bit, you must wonder if, there was anything before Disney, as the start of moving images predates the 1930's. (That fact should be known, also outside of filmindustry)
    If you, for example, just accept Disney as the one true animation god, then you were not a curious person.

    • @jesseward568
      @jesseward568 5 років тому +6

      Im an animator too and outside of our industry she is not well known.

  • @rileytheman7431
    @rileytheman7431 3 роки тому +1

    who else got sent here from school-

  • @eshpi
    @eshpi 4 роки тому

    Like chi ama la giammorcaro

  • @0BM444
    @0BM444 Рік тому

    444

  • @adonaiyah2196
    @adonaiyah2196 5 років тому

    Lottie ReinWHAT?

    • @adonaiyah2196
      @adonaiyah2196 2 роки тому

      @turding people always think my name sounds like idk

  • @ms.dunnsartclass177
    @ms.dunnsartclass177 3 роки тому +1

    The animation created to illustrate the life of Reiniger is so ugly. Bleck, the figures in the thumbnail alone. Why not feature the stunning animation of Reiniger??

    • @BlazeHeartPanther
      @BlazeHeartPanther 11 місяців тому

      At least have some animators that could animate in that style.

  • @Vladklx
    @Vladklx 5 років тому +1

    If she was muslim
    muslims would be yelling islam invented animations

  • @napoleonmeowparte3874
    @napoleonmeowparte3874 5 років тому

    It seems everything is about women these days , constantly making everything about themselves . Ironicly though they accuse men of it 😂😂

    • @jesseward568
      @jesseward568 5 років тому +3

      She's not lying. Lotte did maje the first animated feature. Although i dont know how interested she was in politics.

  • @notnotness4765
    @notnotness4765 5 років тому +1

    Bravely made Natzi propaganda, a true hero - no wonder the BBC is a fan.