Sigma FP-L 61MP Camera Definitive Review | 4K

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  • @detectivejonesw
    @detectivejonesw 3 роки тому +9

    I must say, that's very good high iso performance. Even at 25600 looking at it zoomed out, it seemed to be completely usable

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +4

      Agreed - particularly for being so high of resolution.

  • @GUANTA23K
    @GUANTA23K 3 роки тому +7

    Hi Dustin, great presentation as always. Absolutely love your content. As a fp owner and soon also fp L, I do appreciate your professional and fair opinion. Most mainstream reviewers focus too much on what they are used to - and what this camera deliberately does without. I can’t wait to try it out for myself. I will use it on a super light and compact Zhiyun Crane M2 gimbal (500 g) with the 24 f3.5 and a Samsung T5 SSD - with no cage at all. That setup will have around 1.200 g only. Go figure... A full frame camera on a gimbal, able to shoot 61 MP stills and 4K 12 Bit cDNG RAW videos - with the unique possibility to change the focal length while filming from 24 mm to 35, to 50 and to 60 mm and still shoot a native 4K. How is that not absolutely incredible. It probably won’t ever get to Sony levels of autofocus performance, and that’s fine. With the 24 mm attached, I can probably just set it to a fixed focus and keep my distance throughout the shot. And pulling focus manually really is the only way anyway if you really wanna do creative and cinematic shots. But that’s another story.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      Hi there, Rokki. Your case use seems like the perfect application for the camera, which does have strengths. They are just packaged in an unconventional way.

    • @johndc7446
      @johndc7446 2 роки тому

      The sigma fpl is also a good camera but I am curious to know what is the main reason you chose it over other cameras which have the same price or lower? The sony a7iv has better autofocus and image stabilization. Even if the a7iv doesnt have raw recording, its 10bit footage still has better dynamic range and color accuracy than the sigma fpl's 12bit raw. Probably you prioritize the megapixel count more, and that is understandable.
      The only challenge with a very high megapixel camera with slightly weak processor is the rolling shutter, the sigmal fpl has a very bad rolling shutter. At the end of the day, having another camera company is good for the industry and not only comprised with just nikons, canons and sonys.
      If you have bought the optional EVF, it would now be in close price range to sony a7sii and canon r5.

  • @JokiW
    @JokiW 3 роки тому +5

    Very thorough and honest review. Kudos for concluding that it might be useful to some even if not appealing to you, I think that many ask for all cameras to be made the same just because they like mainstream cameras. Thanks Dustin!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +3

      Exactly. I like to remember that not everyone has the same needs/wants in camera gear as I do.

  • @jhirse3547
    @jhirse3547 Місяць тому

    Thank you Dustin for your review! "Good" to see you had similar challenges with the AF system as I did... Last week we had a Sigma representative in the local camera store, so I went there with my a6700 to test some lenses. Unfortunately for me, he had L-mount lenses with him only. I was allowed to test lenses on an FP-L, configured to 1.5 crop, to emulate my a6700. It was such a disappointing experience. I took like 100 shots on some of Sigma's finest new lenses (500mm F5.6, 70-200mm F.2, 18-45mm F1.8), and maybe 10 were in focus, even when I thought more should have been. Lenses were great, and cam handling was generally OK, and I knew it doesn't have the best AF performance, but I was hoping for a usable a6000 level of performance. It wasn't even close to that. Both the super friendly Sigma representative and my family were willing to let me test more lenses (I had the 85mm F1.4 on my list, as well as the 28-105mm, 60-600mm and 150-600mm zooms), but I was so fed up that I left, totally frustrated... First world problem, I know. I hope Sigma manages to improve (massively) on upcoming generations, as I highly appreciate the company.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  Місяць тому

      Sigma's cameras have always perplexed me, as they just aren't very competitive. They probably should stick to lenses.

  • @MilesforMoments
    @MilesforMoments 3 роки тому +2

    A 45 minute DA video? Hell yes!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      I'm glad that's the way you feel. I couldn't pay my wife to sit through a 45 minute video from me :)

  • @teerawattang5071
    @teerawattang5071 2 роки тому

    Thank you Dustin for your comprehensive and one of the best frank review on Sigma fp L. As a current Sigma fp owner, I cannot agree more on your opinion on the lack of IBIS and only 49 focus points on this camera. I personally found that it is difficult to get good image quality hand held with lens longer than 45mm due to lack of IBIS, especially in low light condition. Since I also use this camera with Leica M lens, there are some aspects I would like to share when M lenses are mounted and get comments from other users if they experienced the same. First, I found color under Auto WB is unacceptable because it was way too red in artificial lighting, e.g. tungsten light. This is not the case when mounted on Lumix S1. So custom WB is the only solution. Second, auto exposure is alway under. I normally have to add +0.3 to +1ev. And third, Auto ISO tents to stay low like ISO100 even in low light condition.
    I would appreciate hearing from other viewers and how to handle it.

  • @BiotikaAnti
    @BiotikaAnti 3 роки тому +5

    Best Review until now! ;D how is the rolling shutter?

    • @FantabMedia
      @FantabMedia 3 роки тому +1

      From what I've read it's around 100ms in photo mode!!!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      I did pan some while on gimbal, and it didn't look too bad for that, but it's not going to be good for filming under certain lights, I think

    • @BiotikaAnti
      @BiotikaAnti 3 роки тому

      @@FantabMedia uff thats hard but where shall those people know that from? 🤔🐒Sounds more like trolling shutter 🤭

    • @BiotikaAnti
      @BiotikaAnti 3 роки тому +1

      Jeah.... Its such a mess. Really sad.

    • @TopSecretVid
      @TopSecretVid 3 роки тому

      horrible

  • @Sergey_Pashnin
    @Sergey_Pashnin 3 роки тому +1

    How do you like the color out of the box compared to Sony cameras ? Thanks.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      There's a slight difference, but I didn't see anything major.

  • @TherconJair
    @TherconJair 3 роки тому +1

    So I suppose this means either the viewfinder or the hotshoe?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      I don't see any physical way to make both work at the same time.

  • @jimtrotter4800
    @jimtrotter4800 Рік тому

    When you took stills with the 45mm did it hour glass on the screen for a bit after each photo?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  Рік тому

      Hmmm, I don't remember that happening.

    • @jimtrotter4800
      @jimtrotter4800 Рік тому +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI problem solved itself when I realized the various speeds on the sd card I put in the camera. Crisis/panic averted. Thanks for the quick response.

  • @chouandsherrie
    @chouandsherrie 3 роки тому +1

    At 61mp I kind wish ibis is available . Sadly I suspect there isn’t

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      Exactly. High resolution without IBIS is kind of disaster.

  • @thomasgunn4146
    @thomasgunn4146 3 роки тому

    I'm really happy to see you review this! Thanks dustin!

  • @ChrisWhittenMusic
    @ChrisWhittenMusic 2 роки тому +1

    I have the FP and it’s a superb little camera. Fabulous images in stills and great for video. The AF is just fine. They were overpriced new and are getting very cheap used. I don’t know if I would pay extra for the FPL

  • @kevin-parratt-artist
    @kevin-parratt-artist Рік тому

    Thanks for this, Dustin. 👌
    Is there any provision for remote shutter release?
    A cable, for example?

  • @jannieschluter9670
    @jannieschluter9670 3 роки тому

    EVF and hotshoe modules can be attached simultaneously?

  • @ronaldwhite4421
    @ronaldwhite4421 3 роки тому +2

    Dustin, Thank you for this in-depth review. I am about to purchase a camera for strictly street photography. What are your thoughts about the FP-L compared to the Leica Q2? I like the ability to swap out lenses with the Sigma but am also drawn to the Leica Q2. My only other consideration is the Fuji GFX 50r. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks! Ron

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Ronald, I'm not familiar with the Leica Q2, unfortunately. It's hard for me to recommend the FP-L as it is stands right now because the autofocus is so inconsistent.

    • @ramspencer5492
      @ramspencer5492 3 роки тому

      His main camera system is Sony mirror-less full frame. It's excellent.

  • @dylandigby1776
    @dylandigby1776 3 роки тому

    Very curious why you can pinch to zoom and not touch menu items

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      Exactly. Sony pulls the same kind of stuff, though.

  • @85mattia
    @85mattia 3 роки тому

    Hi Dustin!
    When I use the mc-11 adapter for my canon lenses to sony cameras I can keep the same great image quality, so I would ask you if also the mc-21 adapter offers the same identical image quality with canon lenses on L-mount cameras????
    Thank you!!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      I think that's true, but I haven't tested it for myself.

    • @85mattia
      @85mattia 3 роки тому

      @@DustinAbbottTWI
      So, at the end, for landscapes and astrophotography what do you suggest me : a7r4/3 or Fp L ( considering that the lenses are the same, for example sigma 14-24 and 24-70) ???
      Thank you very much!!

    • @teerawattang5071
      @teerawattang5071 2 роки тому +1

      My result of Sigma fp + MC21 + Canon 135mm f2; auto focus is slow and a bit off focus (on tripod, so no camera shake). With Lumix S1, it pin point focus even hand held (benefit of IBIS). Don’t know about fp L.

  • @johnlocke8389
    @johnlocke8389 2 роки тому +1

    You down-sampled then tried to compare resolution? I don't know if that's really a proper test. If the two cameras have dramatically different sensor resolutions, then down-sampling one of them just invalidates the comparison, in my opinion. Then one is a .tif and the other a .dng? Wow, you seem to be adding quite a few variables to the equation. Good and interesting video though.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  2 роки тому +1

      John, I'm not sure that you fully understand what downsampling does. It is the accepted industry standard for matching resolution and allowing one to view both images at an equal 100% value. A .DNG file is just a RAW file, and a .TIF is created as a part of the downsampling process. I could save it as a DNG file as well, but that would only be adding another processing step. I know you are questioning the process, but what I have done here is the accepted means of comparing two sensors with unequal resolution. A company like DXO does the same.

    • @johnlocke8389
      @johnlocke8389 2 роки тому +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for the details, Dustin. Nice video!

  • @LukeTaylorPhotography
    @LukeTaylorPhotography 2 роки тому

    Your sharpness chart is definitely the coolest.

  • @rajlovinglife
    @rajlovinglife 2 місяці тому

    nice comprehensive review ...going forward the next sigma camera should include IBIS, better auto focus, a bigger battery and a stacked sensor for faster readout and also controlling rolling shutter.......nice work....👍

  • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
    @0ooTheMAXXoo0 3 роки тому

    Did you mention if the camera has a mechanical shutter or not? The FP had no mechanical shutter, electronic shutter only... Seems an important thing to point out..

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +2

      I do mention it in the video, but no, there is no mechanical shutter.

  • @FastAkira
    @FastAkira 3 роки тому

    I´ve watch a review in which they put this camera as having the best colors and tones ever, pretty much.This statement has any validity? And allow me the apparent silly question, does this camera have better colors that your recent reviewed GFX 100?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      Hmmm - I thought the colors were good, but not exceptionally so (like best ever).

    • @FastAkira
      @FastAkira 3 роки тому +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI I trust your clinic view on this one. Thanks for your reviews

    • @teerawattang5071
      @teerawattang5071 2 роки тому

      I have both Sigma fp and GFX100S, GFX has much better “true” color and tone out of the camera, at least to my taste. Sigma fp seems to have off AWB when mounted with my Leica M lenses.

  • @maxsr3236
    @maxsr3236 3 роки тому +1

    Should be a good timelapse camera, if it has an interval timer.

  • @ncmotorcyclist
    @ncmotorcyclist 3 роки тому

    Hi Dustin. Interesting AF results. Have you reached out to Sigma with your findings to confirm that there wasn't something wrong with your review unit? I don't understand why a company would release a camera like this before they have finished working out all the bugs in the AF.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Daren - the camera was a loaner directly from Sigma, so I would hope they didn't send me a wonky copy :)

  • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
    @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 3 роки тому +1

    To cite my girlfriend just now: "Why is he playing peek-a-boo with the camera?" @21:00

  • @ryanbeer5262
    @ryanbeer5262 3 роки тому

    Interesting concept, Sigma has a history of thinking outside the box. Hopefully they'll listen to feedback & use it when they go to production.

  • @kaadhome5821
    @kaadhome5821 3 роки тому

    Love the modular concept but could've been implemented better. Like the viewfinder should have been a dedicated pin style connector like a hotshoe on top not to side similar to the Canon m6. The grip probably should have been one of the modules included. But a good step towards modular style cameras.

  • @mentosica29
    @mentosica29 3 роки тому

    Seems pretty nifty, but I think that modularity will prove to be more of a repellant rather than a strength. I'd be too worried about breaking what looks to be a LEGO camera.
    On a side note: good to see Loki growing up fast!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      I think that the majority of the camera buying audience prefers to have everything they want/need in the body.

  • @andgainingspeed
    @andgainingspeed 3 роки тому

    Nice! We get a deep dive on day one, although I am happy to wait for the always sober reviews. 😅 The walk through for sensor performance on ISO and dynamic range was exactly what I was looking for. 👍

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks to Sigma for getting me an early loaner!

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      @jaggervalentino3473 3 роки тому

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      @huxleyconnor1041 3 роки тому

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      @jaggervalentino3473 3 роки тому

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      @jaggervalentino3473 3 роки тому

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  • @zdimic
    @zdimic 2 роки тому

    Heatsinks are not open, camera is fully weather sealed, weather sealing for heat sink is behind, on the inner side. Check marketing/reviews when fp came out, 42 points of sealing.
    Your reviews are very, very good.
    But I wish there was more distinctions between comments on thing YOU KNOW, vs. things you're guessing...

  • @andreas7278
    @andreas7278 3 роки тому

    Very enticing concept they are following with their FP bodies but it seems like they still have a decent amount of homework to do for future releases in order to make that a compelling option. Basic functionality such as somewhat reliable autofocus just does not seem to be there (I have also seen other videos about this camera which made me come to the same conclusion). Even the old Sony A7 ii has less lag and more confidence for basic single point autofocus, something like an A7 iii just makes it look like a pretty bad choice. You would have to heavily work around to use it for photography with severe limitations and run-and-gun video shooting is also quite limited with not having any IBIS at all. Small and lightweight run-and-gun shooting is what this camera seems to be made for though. I am sure that one or two releases down the line this has some very nice potential if they fix all their mature issues. Just look at how much Sony improved from generation to generation by listening to customer feedback. Their first releases had some cool features but were lacking in several areas as well.

  • @warpspeed9877
    @warpspeed9877 3 роки тому

    There is NO penalty on weather sealing. It's made this way that water cannot penetrate other compartments through the heatsink slots. And the viewfinder is a 3.6 Mdot item. And Dustin...when was the last time you saw a flipable viewfinder?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      There is no penalty on weather sealing according to Sigma...but they also designed this camera where you have to remove the protective cover off the connection ports to add accessories. What do you think that is doing to weather resistance. And yes, I misquoted on the viewfinder. You're correct. As for a flippable viewfinder, I don't know if I've ever seen one.

    • @warpspeed9877
      @warpspeed9877 3 роки тому +4

      @@DustinAbbottTWI yes there is a potential danger there. But it's the same danger as in any other camera that has a battery pack attached or an external screen or any other accessory that needs to connect to a port. This is not imho a video camera...although it uses the video capabilities of the Fp. This is the perfect landscape/hicker/climber camera. It would also be great as a street photography camera. Anywhere that a light small body with great resolution can be fully exploited.

  • @gitithadani
    @gitithadani 3 роки тому +2

    The minimal design as a concept is very appealing but it does not work if it becomes clunky to attach an evf or whatever. Even for manual work a good evf is even more important to get the most from a 61 sensor. The sony r 4 is about 200 grams more with the evf & ibis & hotshoe with more attachment possibilities. I can use a manual prime 300mm f.5,6 on the r4 and get some great results due to the quality of the evf and ibis. I also have the sigma 65mm and AF and optics paired with the r4 is stellar. the sigma as a design concept is something unique but it seems to me that concept is not realized yet

  • @shootermcgavin4999
    @shootermcgavin4999 Рік тому

    I like it, I just don't have any L mount lenses. I have EF, F, and FE lenses so can't justify buying it.

  • @cyphermote6857
    @cyphermote6857 Рік тому

    Not every camera is made as a general all-purpose device. With that in mind and knowing the real target audience, why was this camera reviewed as if it is something for an "influencer" or video bogger? It is not even a photo-centric tool. A simple recognition and clear upfront mention of the philosophy the camera was mainly designed around ... i.e. using manual focus cine lens and rigged up with external monitors and recorders at a cheap entry price (for cine) would have clearly sent the message to people looking for a different camera. Instead the review had vibes of a drift car being reviewed as a daily luxury commute. Your audience is varied and mature enough to know that not every camera has to be competing with a phone for features (unless it is a Sony). It could have been so much more influential.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  Рік тому

      I get that this is your take on it, but that's not the way that Sigma is marketing this camera.

  • @chumleyk
    @chumleyk Рік тому

    Do your research. The heat sink is sealed, it's just a 'radiator' between the screen and body, it's not a hole.

  • @bardofhighrenown
    @bardofhighrenown Рік тому

    I can't wait for the used prices on these to come down to a point where it's justifiable to buy one. The camera is very interesting like all of Sigma's cameras, but this one has too many compromises to justify it's asking price

  • @xe1zlgg
    @xe1zlgg 3 роки тому +1

    Nice shirt... you should do Ads for that... thanks for share...

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      LOL - I'll stick to doing ads for the channel merchandise!

    • @detectivejonesw
      @detectivejonesw 3 роки тому +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI I think he meant as a channel sponsor aha

    • @xe1zlgg
      @xe1zlgg 3 роки тому

      @@detectivejonesw yes .... as a Sponsor

  • @j16m02
    @j16m02 3 роки тому +2

    The only good thing I can say about the ergonomics of this Lego mess, is that for left eye dominate shooters, the VF is so far out to the left that they won't reset the AF point or make grease smudges with their noses Reason enough to switch systems? LOL. Otherwise this appears to uphold Sigma's tradition of designing bodies, guaranteed not to sell.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому +1

      LOL on the creative ergonomic observation - bonus points for James!

  • @justhappenedtowalkby3709
    @justhappenedtowalkby3709 3 роки тому +1

    No one in the comment section seem to get excited to get this camera. lol 😆

    • @rollymr
      @rollymr 3 роки тому

      A very confusing camera!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      I'm not sure Sigma has had major enthusiasm for any of their cameras...but they keep making them, so someone must be buying them!

    • @Twothenines
      @Twothenines 3 роки тому

      Because it's half baked.

  • @alanboyle9182
    @alanboyle9182 3 роки тому

    This is an early April fools joke right?

  • @salduaij
    @salduaij 3 роки тому

    The L mount is not just for leica
    It’s an alliance between leica Panasonic and sigma

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      That's true, but its a semantic point that doesn't change anything I just reported on.

  • @detectivejonesw
    @detectivejonesw 3 роки тому

    Anyone planning to get this?

  • @TheKimNeeper
    @TheKimNeeper 3 роки тому

    *3.68 M dots

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      That is correct; I did not remember that stat correctly.

  • @akhyarrayhka4048
    @akhyarrayhka4048 3 роки тому

    Theres new sigma fp L and theres no news about it. How can this be

    • @ManWatchingtheStars
      @ManWatchingtheStars 3 роки тому +3

      It was announced literally like 1 hr ago upon which Dustin Abbott and hundreds of other UA-camrs were able to release their pre-production reviews. Plenty of news.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      Curious comment to make on a 45 minute video all devoted to news on this camera...

  • @allencrider
    @allencrider 7 місяців тому

    Did that wallet company ever pay you?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  7 місяців тому

      Pay me for what? If for doing an ad read, then yes.

  • @lsaideOK
    @lsaideOK 3 роки тому

    Probably the most negatives in any review of yours in my memory. Makes Nikon z af look amazing!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 роки тому

      That probably sums up my personal feelings on the camera.

  • @slammermx
    @slammermx 3 роки тому +1

    A little Janky all the add on's

  • @TopSecretVid
    @TopSecretVid 3 роки тому +1

    too many issues for the price..😂😂😂