Are Spartan IV Augmentations Possible - Lore and Theory
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- In this episode: We've looked at the Aster and Chrysanthemum, but in the interests of being thorough, let's take a look at Orchid, the Spartan-IV Augmentations, and whether they are possible!
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>Making actual Spartan armor.
>Doing a top-notch analysis of Spartan augmentations.
I think we all know what Installation00 is trying to accomplish.
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Child soldiers
@@Cowboyfan-wk6ww The future of mankind.
Yep and we are not alone 😅.
I mean as long as I'm drugged up through the surgery
11:00 I imagine that Spartans of any type also produce significantly less lactic acid. There is an ultra marathon runner with a genetic marker that prevents him from producing lactic acid at all, meaning his muscles don't fatigue.
Who is this runner?
That sounds like a deficiency considering you would just run yourself to death.
I dont understand what you just said, muscles produce lactic acid under conditions where oxygen is scarce, i think you mean to say that the ultra marathon runner is less affected by the lactic acid present since that is a evolutionary limiter to stop us from damaging our muscles from overuse
Or add synthetic genom muscle withch work on lactic acid.
I love your use of Mass Effect 2 resurrection scenes for the earlier bits.
I was wondering if anyone else would notice it.
A little nod.
@@Installation00 speaking of, I would love it if you did a video on all of the various augmentations shep gets in ME2. Like heavy bone weave which allows for almost unbreakable bones and also healing via medigel conduits through them. Heavy muscle weave which increases strength and muscle resillience. Heavy Skin weave which has spefical fibers woven through the skin and strengthens shepards resistance to damage and like the bone weave, allows for enhanced healing too.
Plus the gene therapy alliance soldiers go through in general.
It's crazy considering we see shep go hand with a Yahg and also krogans and at one point hold Grunt (a very heavy krogan with heavy armor) with one hand while holding a ledge with the other. And shep knocks fully armored opponents out at times with a heavy punch.
Then there's the brain surgeries for biotics, but I saw you cover that in your biotics videos. Would be cool to see you get in contact with the original writers for references and see if you could really go into heavy detail on the human augmentations in the ME universe! All on the lore core channel of course lol.
Yup; got a lot of mileage out of the Lazarus Project microscopy "footage" from ME2.
The science is well-informed, though. Good work!
Probably the most in depth medical analysis I’ve seen about a group of characters. Do you work in healthcare or study biomedical research? Love the videos thank you.
With his cross disciplinary knowledge in engineering, I'm thinking he's involved in aerospace in some capacity. His medical knowledge is usually lacking in comparison to his mechanical knowledge
He's a genius. I don't think he's in any industry but he definitely has connections to be able to do the things he does. He's got an impressive mind. I wish I could do half the things he does
@Super Fun Stick he mentioned working in an industry which develops advanced materials.
I mean there's no reason he can't have multiple hands in multiple cookies jars. Plenty of people are in high end industries yet know an advanced level of info about a completely different topic because it's a subject they like
@@readmyusernamecauseitssoreally “I have no special talents, I am only passionately curious”- Albert Einstein
Telomeres, telomerase is the enzyme that rebuilds telomeres. Also, as a medical professional we kind of care about sinus heart rhythms, but whether or not it's sinus isn't what tells us if the person is dead or alive. You can live without a sinus rhythm, it's some people's normal actually.
What do you do for a living ?
@@ohlookitsbryan EMT. But I've got a bioscience degree for funzies
@Noah G Until I heard his faux pas, I didn't understand why you made the distinction.
But you're right; well done.
Too bad he hasn't acknowledged it yet.
Epic thanks for being an EMT; I owe someone like you my life, and he was off-duty when I totalled his car with my bicycle!
I wanted to be an EMT until I realised how many of them you lose; I simply haven't the heart for it.
Could’ve just been his pronunciation or he was actually talking about the wrong thing who knows 🤷♂️
@@gavinhicks7621 seems unlikely that it was pronunciation, telomeres and telomerase have very different sounds at the end
I want to know which set of augmentations is the most effective? I personally think the spartan IIIs of alpha company have a more sensible due to the fewer invasive operations.
Yeah but wasn't Alpha company the literal suicide squad? Why waste more on expensive modifications if you're sending all those soldiers to their deaths.
Correction ... All those children ...
@@EL-ISS Yes while the Spartan IIIs were a suicidal Endeavor from their Inception. They also had sub programs that removed the more outstanding from the normal activities of there company to form more elite teams the most well known of such teams is noble team.
Yeah but I'm not sure if this is actually confirmed anywhere but it seems the spartan III augmentations, while much safer, still have the same drawback as the spartan IIs that restricts them to very young children in their earlier stages of development.
The primary purpose of the spartan IV augmentations is to allow any full grown adults to receive augmentations that bring them with in throwing distance of the earlier spartans capabilities. Some of the lore I've read mentions that spartan IV augmentations apparently aren't exactly genetically stable and require and occasional 'tune up' to prevent organ failure so their is that downside to it.
@@7ElevenTruther I think the Main reason the spartan IIIs used children, specifically orphan children was for ease of the mental indoctrination and for use in fire and forget missions.
The possibility for A spartan IVs to have organ failure is rather unsettling!
To be fair though, the need for smoothers heavily balanced the advantages in my opinion
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Sneaking in some Mass Effect 2 footage in there, you don't fool me!
Would love this guy to do a breakdown on raidens body from metel gear games especially the rising game. Breaking down his cyborg chassis and synthetic organs
I’ve always been fascinated by that character since mgs 1
19:22 aglets
phineas and ferb taught me that
There should be a breakdown of the pre Spartan 4s. The ones that would not need a suit for their increased power.
The… WHAT!?
@@____________838 There was a project to create Spartans that would not need the expensive MJLNIOR suit for max performance.
I'm on it.
@@WolfeSaber9933 That seems super-science, even for Halo…
@@WolfeSaber9933 Remove the "max performance" part and that sounds like the SPARTAN III Program.
My god man. This was incredible and really inspiring (if thats the right word to use?) In terms of my hope for humanities ability to not only endure the unforeseeable future, but advanced past its many "thresholds" by leaps and bounds. Thanks for the work you put into these videos and I hope you keep 'em comin'!
These procedures will likely remain expensive, and there isn't great incentives by these companies to "better humanity". At best, we'll probably have Elon's 200th birthday to look forward to.
I work in healthcare, I’m not sure if you do as well, but regardless I’m thoroughly impressed with the amount of effort and detail you went into with this video. As well as the medical accuracy in all of your points. Fantastic job. Bravo.
Hey Installation00, I looked more into the super-myelination stuff mentioned starting at 12:18 about a year or more ago. Most of the benefits and augmentation pros and stuff seemed viable, but I remember there being an issue found with the transplantation of stem cells into the brain that was something along the lines of certain other cells and immune cells in the brain that some stem cells will copy instead of the myelin sheathes, and the cells did something bad/some kind of damage or at least blockage of normal activities of normal activities in the brain, so I think this one quite major issue is the reason we haven’t seen much more major research, or rather application, of this technique.
Bone lengthening will not give you the strength enhancement the larger frame of the spartan 2's and 3's.
As a matter of fact bone lengthening weakens the subject proportional to the height increase because most human joints are type 3 levers.
S4's would therefore do better to remain at their natural height.
All in all S4's were promised to be everything the S2's were on a fraction of the budget, and it worked out how you'd expect.
I think bone lenghthening have another purposes. First - it's easier for engineering to make bigger armor and so they make spartans bigger. Second - it's cheapier to make magic with a bone, than make another set of armor for individual spartan. So it's like they have sort of "standart" for spartans, because no matter how big their budget is - it's still finite
@@stehouse Each suit of Mjolnir needs to be individually fitted to the wearer.
Also, Mjolnir technology is already being integrated into ODST armour.
So it's clearly not an armour issue, It's about awe. "look at this huge super human"
@@skipmage won't argue with that. I'm sci-fi fan in general, so i don't know halo lore details
@@skipmage I think the reason for the height gain is so that you can graft more tissue to a larger skeleton than a smaller one, also having a lot of muscle while being relatively tall and having a thin muscular build will increase your speed and muscle function.
@@superdougie4637 Tell me oh anatomical one, How does having longer legs allow me to graft more muscle to the back, chest and shoulders?
See a larger frame allows you to increase overall muscle mass. Has all round larger attachment sites and provides thicker bone to resist the shear stress provided by stronger muscles.
As was pointed out in the video, the spartan 4's bone augmentation doesn't really help with this, oh and the people who haven't already should go look up what myostatin deficiency looks like.
These people would look more like very weak framed body builders than Olympic runners.
So, no, Sorry but I still cannot find a Good reason to make them taller at the cost of power and durability.
9:54 That elastic force though might not prevent the bones from breaking or fracturing under compressive or sheer forces but it might reset or prevent fragmentation allowing for a complete healing without intervention as well as allowing them to continue with minimal hindrance even with a bone injury, essentially allowing the bone to fracture but not separate under a break.
That tracks. I recall a spartan II who was walking and fighting on a leg that was broken in multiple spots in First Strike
7:29 They actually do that using Titanium composite sheathing as stated in the Spartan Field Manual.
Ok, now that you’ve covered whether the augmentations for the spartan II, III, and IV programs are possible, I request a video where you create a modern real life Spartan program using what you have learned creating these videos
I like to think that ancient humanity have physiological comparable to Spartans but naturally. They had genetic augmentions present from birth and naturally developed into superior humans.
This is indeed an impressive roster of augmentation that are either theoretically possible or even already existing in nascent forms. There's a great amount of potential here to further uplift the quality of life for all of Humanity. I'll look forward for such days to come.
As a disabled adult male with territs syndrome with a implant of screws and 2 steel plates in my rite foot this mite be useful for my embetterment.
@@rayhatton7683 One can hope. My fear is how medical technologies of such sorts generally begin during war…
Hopefully not in war but let's be real here. The evolution of heath care is enxexurably linked to war. Example the golden hour was from the veitnam era of medicine advancement. We are linked to this fact weather we as a race are aware of this or not. As for this advancement I can only hope it's for all to better one self.
@@____________838 Human enhancement has only one end goal. Not uplifting the species, but unfortunately exactly what the Spartan program was made for. Subjugation.
@@wolflordbradley7353 Subjugation of whom?
Also, quite the awkwardly pessimistic attitude.
I have to disagree on the stretching forces of bones. When a load is added perpendicular to the bone, the opposite side will be in tension while the fore side will be in compression. So there are cases where a bone can be in tension without "pulling" on it. Since bones are relatively brittle, I would assume something with a high tensile strength would keep them from breaking in a perpendicular loaded situation. Love your videos and can't wait to see more!
As a materials scientist, this takes me feel right back to the lecture:
Chemistry and Physics of Biomaterials
I've never played Halo but this is pretty similar to Ghost In The Shell, which inspired me to become a biomedical engineer, quit because school sucks, and am currently writing a sci-fi military thriller novel with some cyberpunk. A lot of this stuff I already included in my book.
I recently watched a video by a guy named Roanoke Gaming and he did a video on the Gene-seed augmentations Warhammer 40K space marines receive and i could not believe the amount of detailed analysis and breakdown. This video reminded me of that because this was so clinically well done. Great job!
I remember them getting some stuff wrong in that breakdown, but it was still pretty good.
Regarding the gut biome augmentation, the youtuber The Thought Emporium genetically modified some bacteria that he then ingested to give himself the ability to digest lactose (he is naturally lactose-intolerant to a high degree). Apparently the treatment worked quite well for about 6 months then began to fade, though after a couple years he still had less severe reactions to lactose than prior to the therapy. The videos are quite interesting (as is his whole channel) and he does a lot of cool home-lab/diy science.
I love the Spartan IVs for their upgraded armor technology and enhanced augmentations.
If I ever have some life changing event where im borderline useless, I want scientists and surgeons to do all sorts of experimental augmentations on me just to see what works and if things do work then ill effectively be the first proper spartan just without armor
Don't think I didn't notice you yanked footage from a completely different game series....Sarif industries.....
Well, we now know what i00's next Project is gonna be!
Wow, the detail in this video is insane, keep up the great content Installation00!
So is it safe to say a Spartan is just a futuristic Frankenstein?
10:08 I want to question for a minute the assertion that elastic modulus doesn't matter in increasing the load-bearing performance of bone. If we consider the bone as a standard load-bearing beam under compression, it's most likely going to fail due to buckling. A load-bearing column's resistance to buckling is quite dependent on its stiffness, which in turn is very heavily dependent on its elastic properties. In fact, since most materials have greater compressive strength than tensile strength, it's almost certain that a bending fracture will initiate from the point of highest tension, and so once again tensile properties reign supreme.
In the same vein, carbon-fibre-reinforced composites make full use of the superior elastic properties of carbon fibre, a material which is only really advantageous in tension, through creative design of load paths and laying patterns to direct various applied forces through the fibers. We can imagine procedures to infuse the bone with strong metallic fibers or the like, thus basically converting the bone into something akin to these carbon-fiber reinforced composites.
So bones that can bend are better is what you’re saying?
@@rolandos8758 in my understanding what he's saying is exactly that yes...
if your bones worked like springs after the point were normal bones would break then you could carry heavier loads (springier bones would be able to withstand heavier loads by compression), move faster or withstand stronger forces without them breaking (for instance...when you do CPR you break the chest bones so you can press the heart hard enough. if your bones had more elasticity they wouldnt. ) you would not be super human but your bones would not break unless you fell from the eiffel tower or something...in a combatant that would eliminate the chance of exposed fractures happening, remove the need for medical downtime until the bones heal and allow you to get back up from impacts that would break a normal human's leg or arm provided you're not hit strong enough to rupture internal organs or smash the muscle to uselessness.
however that doesnt really take into account the real problem. ligaments and cartilage would give in waaaaaay before the bones did (as they already do now in fact...) so if the objective is to increase strength, decrease recovery time and allow for a more agile and resilient human capable of moving at higher speed, lifting greater loads and not breaking apart due to increased reflexes firstly you'd need to work on the ligaments (possibly using a similar operation as the one mentioned to increase bone strength in the muscles and tendons) to deal with higher tension and larger muscle mass as well as possibly replace most of the cartilage in their bodies for something more durable.
Holy crap this is amazing, as someone who loves biology and engineering for modifications this is badass
I would be up for testing the muscle, heart and DNA experiments.
I wish 343 had kept the Spartan 4s their original size. They can be super soldiers, they can wear state of the art powered armour, they don't need to be 7ft tall other than for non-diagetic brand recognition. The physiological differences between Spartan II's and III's when compared to baseline humanity are justifiable given the age of the subjects (pre-pubescent) children and the malleability of biology at that time. Giving adults The Bone Lengthening Juice TM after skeletal maturity elicited an audible sigh from me when Halo 4 came out and still does now. There's an awful lot of hand-wavium going on within the Halo canon but this particular issue is a sticking point that I just cannot accept. Are we lengthening just the longest bones to achieve this height? It would be the most feasible but our resultant soldiers would be bizarrely proportioned and the SIV's in canon aren't. So this procedure must be applied to everything from distal phalanx to verteba, from pelvis to cranium to stapes. And thats before we start assessing the necessary alterations to soft tissues to accomodate this change in size. The only reason SIV's are of comparable stature to II's and III's is because 'well Spartans have always been that size so these ones have to be too' and the rest is post hoc rationalisation. They could have been distinguishable from their forbears, they could have been the ORION project writ new but instead we got what we got. 7 and a half foot tall frat boys bragging about sexual conquests that I'm assuming they must have left at the ER before shipping off to Requiem.
My particular bug bear with this aspect of the Halo lore aside. Fantastic video as always.
i skipped over Spartan ops and never played it once; so my first exposure/impression of the Spartan 4s was Halo 5: Competent, somewhat amusing yet semi serious Special Operations units
I could have expected a fair amount of growth, but not the same as 2/3s, which were given their enhancements during puberty.
Elastic strength doesn't affect the compressive load one is able to bear, but it greatly affects impact strength, so bones don't break as easily on impact. Thats the reason we have collagen in our bones. Without some elasticity our bones would be brittle like glass.
I love the serious warning in the beginning of the video followed immediately by a giant purple spaceship getting shot out of the sky
This was amazing, the detail is unbelievable
This man is literally dead set on bringing spartans to life and i for one is all for it
What if Spartan 2s got the same as the Spartan 3s. All of the Spartan two abilities with the modifications from the Spartan 3s. Spartan 2s we’re the only Spartans they ever should have trained. One Spartan 2 is worth 4 Spartan IVs
If Spartan-2's got the Spartan-3 augmentations on top of their own, it might enhance their abilities but diminishing returns would likely minimize the effects.
If the Spartan-2's got the Spartan-3 augmentations instead of their own, there would be a lot more Spartan-2's but that's about the only difference. Aside from the numbers, they wouldn't really be any different from what we already see in canon.
Alongside what Tyler chambers said, there might have been repercussions from adding on the modifications, dead spartans wouldnt be worth an upgrade program, the already present modifications might react badly with the newer ones when mixed, and there is also the fact of compatibility and so on.
@@Asian_Jesus. good takes. i was genuinely curious what other people thought. if an unarmored sp3 could take on an armored sp4 it would make sense to enhance sp2s to that level. armor or not.
The motor pathways and cerebellum specifically are very complex with their inputs and outputs, so much so we only really have working theories on how the cerebellum augments motor plans from higher centers. My first thought was just move down to a lower level, but it is not as simple as picking up descending motor signals and using them as an input for some external effector. There are ascending signals from the muscles themselves that augment movement subconsciously (see golgi tendon organs and muscle spindle reflexes) all at the lower motor neuron level to produce the desired amount of force and prevent injury. Ultimately coordinating movements requires a lot of fine tuning both in upper motor neurons and lower motor neurons, and any suit designed to amplify force using input from the wearer’s nervous system has to be subject to that fine tuning as well, lest you’ll be left with overriding, uncoordinated motor output.
I absolutely love your video so far. My only worry with the neural interface would be the blood brain barrier. By penetrating the blood brain barrier you create a direct short cut for any infection. And that infection would be very difficult to treat. If you could avoid it and say use a wireless NFT connection that would be much safer.
Loved the video. Couple points to look at: Longevity, telomere shortening is more of a symptom. the rat study you referred to is most likely the Dr. Sinclair studies. If so the advance cement is in epigenict control through the implementation of yamanaka factors, NMN, Resveritol and other longevity treatments. Imortality is most likely achievable within 50 years if we can get consensus politically and ethically. Also, one thing we will need to address before mass well patient organ transplants and mechanical implants becomes feasible are issues with rejections. Again great article. Good thought experiment. Thank you.
I can’t wait for u to implement these mods to wear the completed suit!
Yes, I’ll see myself out.
I wonder what the full array of genetic modifications made to the Spartan IVs are?
So the next gofund me is to begin medical trials for Spartan 4 cadets.
What if, ONI needed gofund me for money.
Every time you mention the eye enhancements I get mad about the head lights...
Wow, this is absoloutly amazing, great job with the video and the info in it!
Almost anything is possible if you understand the fabric of existence but obviously in terms of what is available to us through mainstream science, that's another question
Love how you added cuts from mass effect in the video
Yeah
Now I want to be a spartan 4 with an EVA or ODST helmet
And be in a team with Edward Buck
The only explanation that makes sense to me about the way they strengthen the bones with fullerenes that way isn't for performance, it's for torture resistance. The banished used microgravity wells for interrogation, so we can assume since Chak Lok did this that it's a covenant practice. It's to help Spartan's resist micro Gravity wells based torture, and might explain why Spartan Griffin was able to survive it for so long
I see several problems here
1) Is a neuro link really necessary here? because to support the motor function of the armor, it is enough that the suit captures the activity of the muscles. Of course, a direct connection to the motor cortex of the brain can THEORETICALLY improve the reaction speed, but that's exactly theoretically, because in real life, a person's reaction speed could be accelerated only so much, machine will still be MUCH faster. So if there is a difference in movement, it will be almost imperceptible. But after getting out of the armor without neuro link, the soldier will not need to learn to walk again. Also, there are no complex sensor systems and/or embedded equipment in the mjolnir armor that require direct connection to the brain, unlike the armor of spacemarines from Warhammer 40k, and the few other functions can be accessed by voice commands, gestures or via AI. So it turns out that this neuro link does not give any serious advantages, but it significantly increases the cost of the project, and creates a bunch of vulnerabilities that reduce the overall effectiveness of the soldier.
2) The method of accelerating the reaction mentioned in the video refers more to the field of theory, however, there is likely to be no harm from this, unlike many other mentioned procedures.
3) Such as strengthening the skeleton. Fragmentary inclusions are a proven technology, reliable and ALMOST safe. But you should treat these inclusions exactly as what they are. Patches, nothing more, nothing less. If we are talking about a complete and significant improvement of the skeleton, then this skeleton will have to be replaced entirely. Even for a very healthy person, the probability of surviving such a procedure is unlikely to exceed 10%, and there are chances of about 0.0001% of survivors not becoming crippled or permanently disabled in any way. God luck with that.
4) Now about the muscles. The combination of natural and artificial fibers definitely has its advantages, but they create such a heap of problems that it is impossible to solve them at the current level of development of medicine and technology. So it's either one or the other, but not both at once. Let's start with the natural muscles. It's a good thing, but no matter how you strengthen them, you'll only get a normal human, just very muscular one. And the flip side of this will be that your soldier will consume tremendous amount of food every single day. And I'm serious - a large amount of muscle is a constant consumer of nutrients. Regardless of whether your soldier use them or not, he will be constantly hungry. This is the evolutionary meaning of myostatin - not to let this walking steak die of malnutrition in winter, reducing calorie intake by reducing muscle volume. It's not as relevant now as it was 20,000 years ago, but without eugenics, this mechanism can hang around in our genome for a very long time if not forever. With synthetic muscles, it is both easier and more difficult. It is easier because they do not consume nutrients, they are not affected by myostatin (and as sad as it is - by adrenalin), and they are not susceptible to poisons, toxins, viruses and much more. In short, the ideal option for a soldier. If it weren't for a couple of problems: they are not capable of self-healing (at least none of the existing samples are capable of this today) and consume an incredible amount of energy (unlike biological muscles working due to electrochemical reactions, artificial muscles work on pure electricity. This is about how to compare the amount of electricity consumed by two remotely controlled quarry excavators of the same scheme and performance, but one of which is diesel, and the other is electric). The analogy is almost literal, since in living nature there are no organs working on external energy sources at all. For example, in the human body, all the notorious "bioelectricity" is either sensory data coming from the sensory organs to the brain, or control commands from the brain to the muscles. Thus, trying to power the functionality of synthetic muscles from the nerve fibers of the human body is about the same thing as trying to power a quarry excavator via WiFi.
5) Hormones and bacteria - just don't meddle with it, at all, ever.
6) Modified and/or synthetic internal organs. Again, the benefits are questionable, and there will be many problems. Altered organs imply a different genome, which in turn will lead to either rejection or autoimmune shock, and it is hard to say what is worse, but any of this will disable a soldier as good as a bullet in the head. Synthetic organs, like synthetic muscles, are good for everyone, but if anything go wrong, they can only be replaced and only in sterile laboratory conditions, and an enormous amount of electricity is required for work, and where can you get all of that?
7) Unification. Completely. Absent. Each person is unique at the physiometric level (or close to that), which means that for each soldier you will need to develop a unique set of guts and spare parts and drag a horde of technicians trained to work with it. Do you know how much this increases the cost of each soldier? The "Pillar of Autumn" for every Spartan. That's how much. with this money, each UNSC soldier can be equipped with personal power assault armor. Simpler than mjolnir, but in radically large quantities. In addition, as far as I remember, mjolnir had several prototypes, so on one of them an ordinary (or at least unaugmented) person pulled the trick (for the lack of better terms) like the legendary John-117 couldn`t during his entire career, and for the grand finale arranged a local exterminatus. And this was only one soldier on a untested prototype. And imagine what a few thousand such soldiers could achieve? And since the armor can easily be adjusted to the size of the soldiers body (at least if it is a person with a height from 160 to 210 cm, who is not a sumo wrestler nor a porn star with size N tits), the armor can be made standard, and therefore mass-produced, and therefore it will be incredibly cheap.
So it turns out that it is possible to make a Spartan, but for what, if there is an opportunity to get a much better result at a much lower cost?
PS: If you really need to make something anthropomorphic, but with exorbitant combat characteristics, then it's better to design something from scratch. Mass-produced robots should be much better in terms of combat efficiency. And biorobots capable of thriving, fighting and reproducing in such conditions that any human beeng no matter how augmented, will die in a maximum of a week.
But biorobots option suggests a couple of questionable points: firstly, it is actually a full-fledged intelligent race that is in the position of slaves for humanity. And if this issue is not resolved as soon as possible and by mutual agreement, then secondly, this race evolutionarily surpasses humanity more than humanity surpasses not even parapithecines, but rodents, from which the parapithecines originated. So if it comes to a direct confrontation, humanity is fucked.
one observation about wrapping the bones in this lattice
while itself will not increase the bone compressive strength, it will provide confinement to the bones and this confinement stress will translate in overall higher compressive strength, you can see this in concrete, where the wires surrounding the concrete are there to provide this confinement
this also would have the advantage in case of fracture, bone is keep in place so can heal, or worse case scenario may prevent bone from splinter and create a exposed fracture, of course that may still happen but need more force to do, the con would be that may need surgery to fix things out in case of a fracture in the case the sheave is damage or the bones are misaligned badly enough
Do a lore and theory video on just how strong were ancient humans compared to today’s human race and Spartans . 🤓
I know I'm late to the party but I believe the bone strengthening in all spartans is to help resist against direct impact, for example a hammer blow that may crush regular bone structures. I may have missed a part where you went over that but yeah, additional armouring for limbs internally. It would minimise injury to a degree allowing them to be fit for duty much faster than both ligament/tendon and bone ruptures. A pseudoscience portion (i suppose all of spartan augmentation is anyway) would also be it could require less biological resources to heal from the same impact as an all natural human
I just watched a video on the latest developments from Neurolink and they've got a chimp that can play pong with his mind. They started off with the regular controller to train him. After a time the disconnected the controller and linked his brain to the controller port and he was able to control the game inputs mentally. So we're not that far away from a practical and functional computer/brain interface.
If I could survive the process, I'd be down for it.
Amazing and well thought out video as always!
These are the absolute best lore videos.
Spartan: takes a bullet to the gut*
Other spartan: no worries bro, I’ll transfer my fecal matter to your stomach!
As someone who had their leg broken (motorbike) then put back together with a bit of metal, im certainly not paying someone to do it frequently for a couple extra inches in height.
It’d be weird to have legs and arms lengthened… without the torso also being lengthened.
@@____________838 be like ark create a character type shit tbf I didn't think of it that way 😂
2:26 - Huh... How's about that... I didn't know that Cerberus used Spartan augments to bring Shepherd back.
Learned far more then Halo lore in this video, crazy what’s on the market for helping people to live a comfortable life
your content is always top notch..the work you put into these is outstanding
cheers
If all of this was proven to be 100% viable and practical, could you imagine the amount of money the Dept of Defense and DARPA would put into this? Even without MJOLNIR armor, augmenting Spec Ops soldiers like this would be a no brainer. I think a real life Dr Halsey would receive a blank check to make this happen.
I would assume that governments are doing research into this as it stands now. For the exact reason you said. Super soldier spec forces? Definately
About the hormones you were talking about and not knowing how much they could be helpful.If surtan hormones control growth, then doesn't that mean there is some that actually control muscle and bone decay as well if that is the case identifying them and reducing there effect would be a big piece of the puzzle wouldn't it?🧐
So that is why it's said that a Spartan II costs the same as a spaceship.
Most of the cost goes into the armour.
R&D, baby.
@@vegeta002 yup, like 80% of it goes to Crystalline Memory Processor Superconductor Matrix Layer Internal Computational System used to house Starship-grade Smart AI, remove it and you got mjolnir armor that far cheaper (also explain why most spartan don't have Smart AI as standard).
The moral or ethical problems should be already cleared, we're talking about augmenting consenting adults with basically proven treatments. What's stopping us is that such advancements would only be financed in times of war.
Thank you once again! Awesome break down.
There's actually known mutations of the EPOR gene, specifically at Exon 8 on the EPOR gene, that result in Familial Erythrocytosis, ECTY1. It's a condition that results in a higher than average red blood cell count, which means a higher blood oxygenation. The risks of the condition are a higher incidence of blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, and even leukemia. Though I imagine implanting stents into all the major blood vessels, the electroactive polymer mesh to the heart, using the neuralink connected to the medulla to deliberately slow your resting sinus rhythm, as well as the suit being in essence a pressure suit, would mitigate all of those problems.
The cancer though? well, gene editing is a thing and we know exactly where the mutation is so you could probably switch the gene off if you do develop leukemia, flush out the cancerous blood with a perfluorocarbon blood substitute, then flush out the perfluorocarbon blood substitute with donor blood, increase your sinus rhythm, switch the gene back on and reduce your heart rate again. It'd be a fairly painless procedure, if not very long. It'd probably take months for the gene to completely switch off, then back on again, but the flushing could take a matter of an hour or less if you wanted to use an artery. It'd definitely not be a regular thing to do, cancer is still rare at an incidence of 14 per 100,000
seems like the biggest block between me and becoming spartan buck is the ethics board and the shape of my chin.
Hey have you ever thought of doing a crossover on Warhammer 40k space marines and halo spartan augmentation and how fusion of both would turn out?
One is a direct lead-up to the other. Separated by roughly 27,000 years. (Keep in mind there’s little difference from the Astartes of 30k and 40k, unless you’re going to include the Primaris enhancements)
Yes
No matter how many times I see this I keep thinking the Spartan 4s are BARELY augmented
They also have permanent intravenous ports from the suit to their blood stream that will alow injections without removing their armour.
I was thinking about this yesterday.
SO MUCH INFORMATION >.< beautiful video. Amazing how much we've learned and evolved
If we ever do this, and make our own real life Spartan super soldiers, I’ll volunteer in a heartbeat🙋🏼♂️
Same here brother. You are not alone!
pre stressing the hexagonal lattice or the titanium implants could increase impact and shear strength
I believe the stretching forces on the bones would actually be occurring during high G maneuvers
:44 "morally and ethically debatable"
Nah, it's not debatable at all. It was definitely monstrous what they did to those kids. And only half of the Spartan 2's survived, meaning they basically murdered half of them. It was just dumb luck that the Covenant then showed up, seemingly retroactively justifying what they did. But not really. It just seems to justify it.
Extreme temperature variations and limiting certain nutrients makes mammal cells basically over-clocked and extension life span by a little bit
It already exists. I’ve seen people with chips in back of head. One guy bought a painting of mine on Venice beach with a chip on back of head.
17:35 volume replacement and oxygen carrying capacity are different aspects. It's doubtful that the artificial molecule has the same O2 CO2 dynamics hemoglobin has. Maybe it can carry O2, but can it release where needed ? That's the important part
Ha! He used footage from the opening of mass effect 2 hahaha
I volunteer for the eye implants. Tired of not being able to see more than 2 feet in front of my face without corrective lenses
Try the Bates method of exercising your eyes. It treats your eyes as “muscles” that can be improved through daily exercises. It is classified as a pseudoscience but there are testimonials that say it has worked for them. It can’t hurt to give it a try.
So for perspective I’m 5ft 8 and if all S4s gain 4 inches of height I’d be about 6ft out of armour and 6ft 4 in armour.
I’d actually be fairly short for a Spartan.
You’d be pretty swole though.
Nuralink has already done this in pigs, being able to pick up all the major muscles responsible for a pig to walk, so this is already very close
These guys re right up there with the Space Marines on surgery's
Creating a super augmented human is somewhat impossible beyond a certain hard limit.
That hard limit is the force normally brain cells can survive without tearing or bursting or bruising.
Other cells may be able to be replaced or reinforced to some small extent even nerve cells outside the brain but the brain is severely damaged by even fairly minor changes in velocity compared to other parts of the body.
Wrapping the bones in an elastic cage would increase their strength fairly significantly as it is a bones elasticity that gives it the majority of its strength.
Nano machines injected into the bloodstream could migrate into the brain and become a neural interface with external links without requiring direct passages through the skin, this technology is partially available now.
Bone stretching to increase hight , there are a number of techniques available.
The one mostly used was invented by accident by the Russians when a doctor who thought severe breaks would heal faster if the bones were forced together delegated the adjustment of the adjustment of the brace to a nurse who got it wrong and lengthened the braces instead of shortening them , each day or so the brace is adjusted and the gap increased with the bone growing to fill the gap no re-breaking is required. Another method is to cut a section out of the bone splitting it halfway down the middle from end to end almost then breaking the remaining bone in two stretching out the gap then attaching the removed bit back as a brace, a paste of bone like material is put in the gaps and possibly grafts from cadavers that have been chemically sterilised or even cooked.
There is a similar method that uses bone pieces and a titanium lattice but this is most often used on cancer patients and those who have had extreme crush injuries that would otherwise require amputation.
How do you lengthen bones and address the physical length of the muscle? Muscles have points of attachment to said bones.
Yes and currently we are able to full reverse aging in small animals like rats 100% of the time ( this includes reversing things like liver failure, cancer, prostate issues, heart failure) it literally reverted an "elderly" rat to a "teenage" rat and two years ago we were successful in reversing the biological "clock" / "age" of an adult man by about 3 months.. the research has since been "quietly been cycled out of the news" because the researchers warned the public not to get excited but personally it's just to allow certain people across to it ( probably rich people )
doesnt really make sense to hide this and only sell it to rich people. theres less profit on that
selling it to every day people in exorbitant prices sounds more likely.
its probably because we're still sort of afraid of doing it. but its only a matter of time given the inevitable arms race towards genetically modified super soldiers
@@zefellowbud5970 do you think you and I are seen as people ?
Why do the medical personnel walk around with masks on around Spartans?
Well mask during surgery is pretty standard. However when armouring up, the armor is put on in a sterile environment. Reason being is because the Spartan could likely be in their suit for years at a time I'm extreme cases. Bacteria and Pathogens carried by another person could get into the suit and fester over such periods of time, not to mention the likely drop in immunity for the Spartans over such prolonged periods in a sterile suit. Bacteria or viruses from another person could potential make them very VERY ill.
@@Installation00 OH wow. Ok I didn’t know that
@@Installation00 I can't remember where in lore I've heard it from, but didn't the Forerunners have this exact problem with their population being in suits all the time significantly weakening their immune systems outside of it? Think it was the Librarian when she went to Path Kethona to meet her kind there?
Solid reason, and quite ironic that such demigods can potentially end up seriously ill due to a cold. Lol
I would be interesting to compare Spartans to other supersoldiers in fiction, such as a Captain America. Where would someone like that rank in the Halo Universe? How effective were the Spartan(1) augmentations that produced soliders like James Avery Johnson and how does he stack up against his successors?
Ok but do they need to eat?Master Chief has been in space like forever and he rarely takes his helmet off.
I don't think they carry oxygen tanks either, at least in the games.
Yeah it's a good way off. I love your break down. It was a good way off when they implemented it with the S II class. At less than half operation/survival status. That means we could but should we? Potentially to better our selves. I'm all about the better Human 🙂. Remember this game started development in 1998. Whatever is Science fiction becomes science realty, I think it's gonna take desperate means to develop these kind of progresses. Especially because we're a one rock non unified mudd ball in the void.
Amazing breakdown
6:08 I cant imagine having your entire body weight on something that thin and small would be very pleasant.
Gotta love the sick irony of people having a life saving heart replacement and being considered technically dead.
i00 is the most underrated halo content creator by far