The 90's Election That Could Have Changed Everything (And If It Happened)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In 1992 one eccentric billionaire ran for president and ended up getting a sizable portion of the vote. Thirty years on, his run has largely been left in the 90s. But especially in today's climate, I think he was the start of something we see today. So just to do it, what if Ross Perot won in 1992? Its more relevant than you think.
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Very disappointed to hear people didn't just starting hating the establishment starting at my generation
Yo bro. What is good in your hood?
But Jreg your from Canada
@@youtubewatcher3511 him being from Canada doesn’t exclude him from hating the establishment in Canada, god some of you Americans are so god dame closed minded (countries all around the world have problems with the establishment)
@@kalipsicao790 it wasn’t really meant to be taken seriously
@@youtubewatcher3511 dude it was a post-ironic meta comment duh
Abraham Lincoln was basically a third party candidate.
Really?
@@mitchellrenton6044 Yes. Lincoln first entered into politics as a Whig until it died sometime in the 1850's. The 1860 Election had four candidates: him (Republican), Breckinbridge (Southern Democrat), Douglas (Northern Democrat), and John Bell (Constitutional Party)...
Wassup Mr Beat!
Republicans had already replaced the Whigs in congress for a few years by that point though so not exactly a third party by 1860.
Mr. Beat. Ye, the US wasn't a two party system back then.
To explain the Reform Party:
1. Ross Perot believed the two parties shifted too far apart under Kennedy and Reagan and thought the third option should come from the middle.
2. Pat Buchanan thought that the two parties became too similar under Bush and Clinton, and believed that the third option should come from the right.
3. Jesse Ventura agreed with Pat on the parties being too similar under Bush and Clinton, but he believed the third option should come from the left.
Too bad we couldn't have had some sort of Jesse Ventura/Ron Paul fusion campaign at some point after the year 2000.
Jesse's time has come and gone, but I feel like the only way a third party/independent candidate could ever win has to have some status and stature.
@@bullmoosemedia that wouldn't work. Jesse Ventura would just choke the shit out of Ron Paul. Jesse was centrist leftist. Ron Paul is a libertarian republican....bout as far right as Goldwater. They agree on just about nothing.
The Reform Party really was like a jreg video then....
@@michealmcneal2259 they don’t like war
@@michealmcneal2259 That is not true.
Both want to end the wars.
Both want to end the drug war...
There are a lot more similarities out there but I am tired....
True populists actually agree more than they disagree.
It is just a shame the other half they disagree on is unacceptable...to the other side.
Moral of the story: Donald Trump wanted Oprah Winfrey as his Vice President in 2000.
Trump was a Democrat back then, he would switch from red to blue several times back in those days.
@red leader's fav dude well if Trump was a Democrat yes he would be treated differently for sure, now the gop and dem hate him so much because they fear him
OPRAH CAN DO *ANYTHING!*
@Robert Ortiz-Wilson Oh absolutely. While the GOP is by no means one united front, they may as well be compared to the fractured mess that the Democratic party is nowadays. In the GOP, you could win over a few key people in the party and most will either follow or at most silently oppose you or just take a shot every now and then. In the Democratic party... They eat their own the moment you disagree. The Dems have no humanity left as far as Im concerned.
@@actuallyrealcover Less he switched and more he stayed the same and the democrats actively moved so far to the left he became a republican
Perot put his money where his mouth was. I respect him for that.
Perot had a lot of things going for him, but when he dropped out of the race at the height of his popularity, that was his death knell. The fact that he got 20% of the vote after showing everyone that he wasn't completely committed to the job is honestly a bit bad ass.
The worst part is he turned out to be absolutely right about our future.
He was definitely a better populist than a fake one.
So do you respect Bloomberg the same way?
@@wyvernlord23 Kinda, I guess? Tbh, Michael Bloomberg was never much on my radar. But I remember Perot's infomercials.
Well, we wouldn’t have an Animaniacs Intro with Bill Clinton playing the Sax.
Love how Animaniacs is relevant again.
All of reality stands on the shoulders of Animaniacs. We need to face that truth
@@the_man_emperor_of_mankind it always has
I'd vote for The Brain to be president.
Which also means we shouldn’t have see him with the sax in this video’s thumbnail.
Fun fact: my dad voted for Ross Perot. So that’s something
One day my kid can proudly say “my dad voted for Kanye.” Here’s lookin at you, kid
@@haloskaterkid I genuinely forgot he even ran for president. Kanye knew it all was a joke
Same
@That Urge what
@@tornn8847 and who could forget presidential candidate Deez Nuts 2016 who in my proud state of North Carolina received 9% of votes. Dads voter savviness is just built different junior ☑️💯
I did not vote for Perot in 1992. Mostly because:
- I am not American
- I was three years old in 1992
- I was not a mother at the time
Cool story bro
Damn you're old
@@purest_evilpretty sure she’s a girl since she said she wasn’t a mother at that time
@@UGOISCOOLNOW call everyone bro + Ugo is trash
😂😂 Yeah born in 86, I'm a father NOW,so I support this list👊🏿
The Drake and Josh clip just made this video.
Wow! 😧 I can’t believe I’m this early to a AlternateHistoryHub video, let alone early enough to see the emperor himself! 🙇♂️
Yeet
Indeed.
Ew a neoliberal
But Cody, Ross Perot winning the election would be impossible due to the first past the post system, dragging votes from whatever party it had more ideals with, and let the opposition with different ideals to win a super majority
Friendly Reminder that 2020 is humanity’s punishment for not clapping
please clap...
Clap because all of this is probably the trailer
Someone forgot that Trump can win 2000 election as candidate of reform
Clap for Jeb or he'll clap your cheeks
Clap for me you stupid bastards
I have to say that it still amazes me how a man could get 19% of the popular vote, literally millions of people on his side, and wining 0 electoral college votes. No one stopped and said, "wait, this is so wrong, a person/party that was voted by 19% of the voting population is not going to be represented at all anywhere, we must change that".
Republican and democrat voters both probably thought "cool the guy stealing votes from my team won't be around to do that" and just let it go, And real politicians wouldn't care for obvious reasons.
POWerless. THose that can change that are the one in power.
It's not that no one stopped to realize. T's that power is held tightly, and those that have it are incentivized to keep their power, and exclude others who would go against his interests
The benefit of the electoral college is that it prevents a tyranny of the majority...although yeah I do recognize that it has lots of problems.
That 19% is not concentrated, it was spread out relatively evenly.
@@kitchenersown The electoral college doesn’t prevent tyranny of the majority at all. Nothing stops Texas, NY, Florida, and California from voting together. It’s just dumb luck that the political situation is as it is, this wasn’t intended when the constitution was written. This is a common misconception with the system
FUN FACT: Ross Perot gifted Bernie Sanders a sword.
Ooh that _is_ a fun fact!
Neat
I am not surprised but I am going to have to fact check that.
He has deemed Bernie worthy to be King of America
Based
I feel like Roosevelt's Bull Moose party was probably the first real shot at taking down the established political parties by trying to appeal to both sides. Would be kinda neat if that party was still active and strong today
Except it was basically just a splinter party broken off from a specific faction of the Republicans and all it really did was deliver the election to Woodrow Wilson. Much like Ross Perot's run only really succeeded in handing off the election to Bill Clinton.
@@Monsuco Perot wasn't a spoiler for any one candidate. He drew votes from everybody as he appealed to moderates across the political spectrum. Clinton won a) because H. W. just wasn't popular anymore and b) because HE drew votes from Perot at the last minute by throwing a bone to some of his proposals.
If Theodore Roosevelt did win in 1912, we would have likely seen the GOP enter a era of decline like the Liberals did in England. The Republicans would be a weird kinda Liberal mainly popular in New England & upstate New York, some Western farming communities and the Jello belt. With the Progressives replacing them as the leading left of center party. Roosevelt would still probably go into World War 1 at some point and we may have joined the league of Nations. But perhaps after the chaos of post war America, a Northern democrat would win in 1920 on a platform of normalcy like the Republicans did in 1920 as well and more or less American political life would play out the same as it did OTL with the Progressives being the main Liberal party and the Democrats being more or less dominated by Southern conservatives. With maybe the Republicans being a a radical centrist alternative like a larger more complement version of the libertarians.
@@Monsuco sounds like the Democrats were the spoiler, Ross Perot was much more centeral and polling from both sides so “technically” the democrats were steeling votes from him and pulling them right.
0:04: Not gonna lie that Elephant is pretty *THICC*
*VERY* *THICC*
W I D E
@@eatinsomtin9984 do this * Insert any word * but dont make the annotation spaced
@@eatinsomtin9984 *THICCY*
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"I know the age of my viewers."
I voted for Perot in '92. Am I an anomaly?
Im at least 30 years younger than you and for the comments I deduce almost all have like 5 or 10 years more than me, so I would say that you rigth
I also voted for Perot in '92.
yeeeep...I was 3 years old at the time, and there's a fair chance that the majority of his viewership was born in the 2000s.
I also voted in the 1992 election; it was the second presidential election I was qualified to vote in.
@Eli Wilson I was negative 11
“YOU GET A HEALTHCARE! YOU GET A HEALTHCARE! EVERYBODY GETS A HEALTHCARE!”
-Vice President Oprah
Canada has a healthcare!
@@Cjnw A really crappy healthcare. Oh I know all about it. I broke a bone in Canada and thanks to their WONDERFUL healthcare system, they refused to see me in a timely manner, which it turns out I desperately needed, as the blood supply to the bone was cut off and it died after about 2 days (avascular necrosis). Thanks to Canada. A CIVILIZED country with CIVILIZED healthcare could have treated me.
"Where is the Executive Order? Well, look under the seat because I GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU!"
@@medexamtoolscom Lies
@@lordgemini2376 I had to be amputated because of falling 20 feet into a fire gorge. I broke one of my legs and the lower leg bone shot up through my leg and into my hip, and then I got 3red degree burns on my lower half. They did not see me till 4 hours after I arrived, so I lost more than I should've.
Id honestly prefer this timeline. Just so we could have a fighting chance at ending the two party divide eventually.
frankly i wish all parties to be abolished and just have candidates run on their policies alone instead of platforms
@@OlEgSaS32 The reason that will never happen is that they do not have enough confidence that people will donate as much as they do fired up for one party or another.
@@OlEgSaS32 then only millionaires could run since parties also fund candidates.
@@ohiotoledo3787 i know, i know, i just wish we didnt structure our political system like that, they need money for ads, rallies, etc or else they would absolutely be lost in the void to everyone, and that shouldnt be, but it is what it is
With first past the post voting if a third party brute-forced their way in it would just end up knocking one of the others out. We have to change to something like ranked choice voting for us to actually have a chance to have more parties.
Well, for a while Ross Perot had been leading in the polls, so he may have had a good shot at winning. Dropping out did hurt him though
He and his family was threatened repeatedly so I totally get it....
@@bullmoosemedia Should not have taken those threats seriously.Even if he was killed,a whole new era would begin,with new parties.People would come to understand that the democrats and republicans have monopolised everything and would not anyone interfere in their war for power.Perot tried to but as you said,gave up.Had he not dropped either he would be president or a nation hero.If the latter happened,l expect an anti establishment revolution would happen and the 2 party system would be gone.
@@bullmoosemedia I get why he did it, but afterwards there was no way that people would trust him to stay the course the next time things got tough. It's pretty common for powerful politicians to get death threats. It's not pretty, but it's the way the game is played, and if he couldn't handle it he honestly shouldn't have run in the first place.
@@albanian_barcelona_fan I am not sure if you are on a fever dream or not but most likely none of that would have happen if he was killed as many people saw him as buying his way towards it and even if the 2 parties we currently have ,2 other will take their place not matter what it be the lion and tiger parties as having 2 parties is pretty engrained into the american system.
“Basically a jreg video in real life” Oh My God
yeah, i wasn't expecting that reference either lol
Dare I ask who or what "jreg" is?
@@louisduarte8763 He is a weird political UA-camr, I can’t really describe it but look his channel up.
@@louisduarte8763 just look for his channel
@@louisduarte8763 ua-cam.com/video/b2BZyD7HdW0/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Jreg
Fun fact: My great grandpa was best friends with Ross Perot when they went to the Naval Academy together
Very cool
Fun fact: Opra can do ANYTHING
That is a fun fact
I voted for him next time he ran. I was too young and 92. But, I agree with damn near everything he said. He was right about it all. My fondest memory of him was when he said: “you’re the boss, and I’m Ross.” I bet he thought it was hell to watch every prediction he ever made about all the stuff that was going to go wrong come true. He only died a couple years ago. God rest his soul. He would’ve made one hell of a president.
Can you do "What if terrorists successfully destroyed the World Trade Center during the 1993 bombing?"
Maybe the war on terror would have began a decade before
I can tell you already that if the 93 bombing were successful, since the terrorists' intention was to have one of the towers fall onto the other, bringing them both down and all over Lower Manhattan, and given that the the North Tower was 1,368ft (not counting it's antenna mast) and the South Tower was just very slightly shorter at 1,362ft, the amount of damage and death this would've caused all over Lower Manhattan would be MUCH worse than what we got on 9/11, how much worse is up for debate.
@@dentonscheibal3 Well, first, no one would be able to evacuate, since it would be almost instantly, so all people in both towers would be effectively lost. Add a couple of buildings full of people, and yeah, easily double the amount of people dead.
@@Saiyan0X 50,000 people worked in both towers. It could’ve easily exceeded 20,000 deaths if done on a busy work day
@@BradyBadlyAnimates It was a Friday and 1217 local , so neither the busiest day and timed to when those that take lunch at all would have been at lunch. But not just office workers would be dead, there would have been some tourists as well.
The libertarian party was probably a bit pissed when this dude got 19% vote
Harry Browne was pretty good
For many years, I kinda assumed Perot was libertarian (i.e. fiscally conservative and socially liberal).
@Mike H When I think of extremist libertarianism, I think of ancaps.
You know, more like Timothy McVeigh and less like Anders Breivik.
@@knightwing5169 That is more accurate. You could also think of Ansocs, though they're less common.
@@shahrikamin4699 ansoc as in anarcho socialists?
“All extremes are on the same team.”
- Ross Perot, 1992
Except in the way that proves horseshoe theory
"“All extremes are on the same team.”
Germans circa 1930 nod in agreement. Communists (left-wing extremists) and Nazis (right-wing extremists) both worked towards the common end of bringing down Weimar Germany and the Social Democrats.
I'm still recovering from April's "Election What If?" video…
The world that was meant to be
Still longing for Jebruary
Galactic Overlord Jeb Bush
Was that the one where Jeb Bush became Emperor of Mankind
@@FlyingAlfredoSaucer yes.
The only election my grandmother participated in was 92 and she voted Perot. My mom lambasted her for wasting her vote... my mom regrets her words now.
What if Borat Sagdiyev won the 2008 presidential election?
Very nice!
Is what.
this should be a HOI4 mod
We won't have COVID since Borat's boss wouldn't get mad. Also, Rudy Guiliani could have sexy time with reporters in hotels without anyone knowing.
Imma just save y’all some time and summarize the video:
Jeb comes outta nowhere and wins the 2000 election and becomes galactic emperor of the known universe
I STRONGLY DISAGREE! Being as famous as I am on UA-cam, I know that it gets hard to read every comment I get. I try my best, but I am just so famous, that I can't do it much longer. Sorry, dear aeja
And thus he finally achieves his ultimate dream, as the whole galaxy claps for him
Emperor of Mankind you mean
So the only difference is that Jeb becomes God emperor 24 years earlier?
@@AxxLAfriku I just scrolled through your channel for a few seconds.
You are somehow everything that's wrong with the modernday, the personification of 2007 internet, and have the talent of a rage comic.
The idea of a reformist party Trump with Oprah as VP made my brain explode. You owe me a new one.
Not really. Trump was always a grifter and opportunist that would say and do anything to get ahead.
Too bad we didnt get this timeline. It would have been great.
So Perot’s Reform Party harkens back to the Rough Rider himself. Economic progressive reforms while also mercantilist.
Ah the Moose!
Bully, a challenge I love competition!
@@zachstutzman4059 a man of culture I see
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. - Harvey Dent
I have an original 1922 Morgan silver dollar coin, just like Harvey's. Pretty kool. Use it to flip as my lucky coin
@@backwoodsjunkie08 Just don't get half your face burnt off or get involved in the political climate of a crime ridden city, and things will turn out fine.
Perot would have had a really good chance if he wasn't in a situation that required him to drop out. He could've gotten 30-40% of the vote, creating a super intense battle.
I like the Jreg reference. You're a man of culture Cody.
*Tips fedora*
I’m pretty sure he even supports Jreg on patreon too, surprised they haven’t collaborated
*"CLAP REQUIRED"*
What if akhenaten's religious revolution succeeded?
Even on other people's videos I am beset upon by scenario suggestions. Such is the blessing and curse of an alternate historian.
@@MonsieurDean its a very interesting timeline, monotheism become populare in egypt in the mid 14th century BC, during the late bronze age, how would that efect egypt and its area?, how would that change history?, and how the religion would spred to other places?
@@MonsieurDean f sorry for that pal
Ancient World scenarios are always a blast. Will make a note of it! 👍
honestly surprised trump didnt get whiplash by how drastic his political opinion changed between his run in 2000 and 2016
He did. Remember the Republican Primary debates? Guys like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio heavily criticized Trump for his previous leftist policies as well as his friendships with some Democrats. To be honest, Trump’s policies changed for the better though.
@@bjehulk facts
@@bjehulk "Changed for the better"
How can people unironically think this? If trump stuck with his 2000 run platform, I might have even considered voting for him. He abandoned everything great in favor of the southern strategy.
Which of course assumes he was honest about it - guy's a habitual liar after all.
Trump has seriously been screwed over in terms of policy by the fact that he had to run as a Republican. I still think he would push in public healthcare if he could hes just "not allowed" to do it. He should have turned against the Republican establishment after being elected and built up his own party over the past 4 years
The whole deal with trump is a complete mind bender. I knew he used to be more moderate but knowing why and how is crazy. Good video.
He still is more (although obiously less than in the 90's and 2000's) moderate than he let on in his 2016 run before he became president if you can cut through the crap the media was printing about him and actually get to what "he" was saying.
In fact, he tried to impliment a few policies Cody mentioned in the video during his run as president was told no by mostly the democrats and media, but also the republicans sometimes as well.
Trump shifted from wanting to tax the 1% to cutting the 1% taxes. At it's core, the republican party is focussed on helping the already rich, everything else is secondary.
I actually feel like he was used by the republicans to get their tax cuts and reduced consumer, environment and personal protections through. Notice how the only major policy he passed in the first 2 years was a tax cut for the wealthy? That's on purpose.
@@letsburn00 So basically he was a tool used to serve R and its backers' interests. Gee I wonder what happens if somehow in 2016 he won as third party or even D?
@@ArcturusOTE Pretty much. Trump is largely driven by his ego. That actually can be a positive thing if your heart and information is good. The best Australian prime minister in the last 20 yrs was famously a massive egotistical asshole. He got removed by his own party after 2 years. It was claimed because he was an asshole, but really it was because he actually fought entrenched interests and people with their noses at the trough on both sides of politics wanted him gone, so a good chunk of the corperate media were totally hostile. But in the end, it looks like he was basically 100% right.
Sadly, Trump appears to be very easily manipulated by his advisers and the right wing media. His main stupider aspects of policy look to me more like "forwards from grandma" stuff that he doesn't know it's nonsense. But he's still the president, the buck stops with him. He has no one to blame but himself for hiring bad advisers and taking bad advice.
@@letsburn00 which pm?
A Perot presidency may not have been amazing seeing as he’d have no allies in government, but I certainly would have voted for him.
He could use his billions to threaten to unseat anyone who opposed his agenda with attack ads in the midterms
If he'd won then they'd give him the Trump treatment. That's how the establishment deals with outsiders.
The funny thing is, almost everything he predicted actually came to pass. I live in Texarkana, Tx., his hometown. I drive over the Ross Perot bridge everyday haha
Nafta is what really fucked america. We chose corporate money over our own people
The reform party sounds like the inspiration for NPP in TNO
@asuka lamely Given the absolute state of the community, hopefully not
@asuka lamely True, but this is a community where someone has made a hoodie with a Nazi war criminal on it . Plus Cody had problems when he did the Kaiserreich video.
What is TNO?
@@MatanVil The new order: last days of Europe . It's a mod for the strategy gamer hearts of iron 4 and it's set in an alternate 1962 with a cold war between Japan, Germany and the USAm
@@MatanVil universe where Germany won WW2, known for being very critical of fascism and showing it's horrors in a very eye opening way
I wasn't prepared to see a Jreg reference.
AltHistoryHub has been a sub since the start of Centricide, at least.
It's time to Jreg. Lets Jreg, everybody!
100th like
I think Alternate History Hub has commented on a few of his recent videos.
Cody's even one of Jreg's Patreon members.
Really interesting about the Trump part. Had no idea about his policies before joining the Republican party
Edit: Oh god, I've started a war.
It is so interesting to hear Trump’s liberal policies too. How times have change.
Many of said policies are still alive
But you wouldn't hear that with 93% negative coverage. Going as far as to push conspiracy theories like Russia for 3 years
I mean you haven't realized? The man could cure cancer single-handedly and the Media would scream how Cancer is good and he's a racist sexist blah blah blah for curing it
@@commisaryarreck3974 Even if what he believed back then is still something he believes, the "93% negative coverage" is honestly deserved. I keep hearing "If he cured cancer single-handedly people would still hate him! If he saved Obama's life people would still hate him! If he solved world hunger people would still hate him-" NO. Look, you can't say any of that because he *Hasn't cured cancer single-handedly.* And even if he was physically capable, he likely wouldn't give it to anyone because he cares more about money than the people. People constantly call him racist, misogynistic, scammy, demented, scummy, greedy, xenophobic, etc etc *because he is.* He's done a FEW good things, maybe, but most of the good stuff he's done is actually just stuff he stole credit for from other politicians and previous presidents. Even if he has done a few things, that doesn't change the fact that he's ruined and indirectly ended hundreds of lives. Hitler did some good things - he's still Hitler.
@@maxtube1952 So you think Trump would've remained unpopular even if he implemented more socially liberal policies?
Idk about that but he'd probably be less divisive about it had he become more centrist-ish during his reign.
@@ArcturusOTE Maybe, maybe not. All I know is he's a horrible president, pathetic businessman and just generally really...dull. The fact that people defend him still, knowing these things, is ludicrous to me. I don't care for what could've been - this is who he is.
The use of the UA-cam logo as the natzi logo is gold haha
its Nazi
@@metalfalcon4254 Nope. In trying to distract people who might be Nazis, YT just showed how much they were _themselves_ Nazi-esque.
AHH: **talks about people loosing jobs**
The background: skoobee due 📈
Dude if Ross Perot ran today he'd probably win SOMETHING
That would be interesting since he is deceased.
@@Scrapmanluke1 yeah I think he meant in 2016 or he's just not searching much up
Maybe not. RP was just too brash, harsh for the general public. I liked him but he was like a neighbor everyone knew was aloof but nice.
@@DavidLLambertmobile so basically like trump
2016 would be the best
He wasn't a third party, he wasn't in a party at all.
First person I ever voted for at 18
If he hadn't dropped from the race and come back, he would have won the popular vote. Though I don't know how you get delegates without a party
PLOT TWIST
ross was actually jeb bush' semi final form, his loss lead to the 2008 crash and 9/11, in 2016 his defeat lead to the covid-19 pandemic
Damn, we should have clapped.
I know who ross Perot is, hes was played by a little girl with rubber ears on Nickelodeon tv show ALL THAT in the 90s.
Yes! That is all I can think of when I try to picture him.
"I got 4 billion dollars"
@@chris7263
It is the best impression of Ross Perot ever.
Heeeeee hee hee hee hee hee
@@STAROMEGA54 And Dana Carvey's wasn't?
I love how your channel has, at the same time, both gotten more shitposty and more informative. No where else do you see deep political analysis combined with Jreg and Political Compass Memes.
He's starting a new channel called Pointless Hub for "reviews, nostalgia shit, game shit. Talk about topics like. Goofy Movie. Spyro. Jojo. 90s Disaster Movies. Musicals."
-and also there's shitpost hub but shh nobody knows about that-
@@artistwithouttalent Hmm?
@@themadkraken1912 Tldr he has a new channel for miscellaneous talk
Political Compass Memes is where politics goes to die. Any time you visit that subreddit your IQ drops by 2 points.
I hate politics because of the party system. Its really annoying that we can't escape it because so many people either vote straight-ticket for a single party because they want to or because they have no faith in the chance we could choose someone actually helpful. Like many others here, I hate this horrid timeline we were thrown into and want to be in the one presented in the video
My wife and I think we need to draw names out of a hat to get our legislators and executives.
It can't be much worse than we have now.
@@grantjohnson5785 careful what you say, you might jinx it. Still, not a bad idea.
@@nathanfish1998 There'd be some qualifications. It's still fairly rough, but here's the idea:
1. Single terms in each position only; no career politicians in that regard.
2. While you serve, your normal job is held for you, just like for jury duty. While you serve, your salary is the same as you earned at home, though with a modest stipend for housing in the state/federal capital as needed, transportation, staff, etc.
3. You can refuse any position you feel is beyond your ability, or that you do not desire.
4. Additional qualifications are necessary for certain positions, for example: MD to be coroner, JD to be an elected prosecutor, defender, or judge, engineering degree to be a county engineer, etc.
5. You have to serve in local/county gov't first. For your name to go in that "hat" you need to be 18 and have high school diploma or the equivalent, IQ of at least 95 (so at least "average"), and no felony record (even as a juvenile).
6. After you've served in local gov't, your constituents vote on your performance. If you have a job performance >50%, your name goes into the state "hat". Minimum IQ requirement goes up by 5 as well. (You can retest at any time.)
7. After you've served in state gov't, your constituents vote on your performance. If you have a job performance >50%, your name goes into the US House "hat".
8. After you've served in the US House, your constituents vote on your performance. If you have a job performance >60%, your name goes into the Senate "hat" 5 years after you leave office; same process for going from Senate to POTUS/VP.
9. Judges follow a parallel system; local to state to federal. SCOTUS, once selected, remain for life but have their job performance evaluated every 5 years. Any with job performance
Yeah iv been voting 3rd party for a few terms now. Dems and republicans are completly incompetent
*Proportional Representation.* Not only for US but also for the UK. First-Past-The-Post gave them Brexit, gave US Trump. Lesson Learned? Not for two countries who are too in love with Horse Races as Elections where _everybody_ loses.
Gee, I love YT slapping a “THE ASSOCIATED PRESS HAS CALLED THIS RACE FOR JOE BIDEN” annotation on a vid that has nothing to do with the 2020 election
Yes
Elections are 100% secure as well
Ignore that we pushed a conspiracy theory about Russia hacking our elections for 4 years please
@Commisar Yarreck So basically both are right or neither is? What is your point exactly? Also the Russian thing was never about fraud, but about influence in the public opinion during the election; the thing is it was so idiotically dealt by both sides that we will never know if it actually had any meaningful impact on the outcome.
That annotation is on quite a few videos. It's annoying.
@@commisaryarreck3974 You had me in the first half, ngl.
@thunder key what are you talking about my party is always right, the other party is always wrong and I'm always the smartest in the conversation.
"Reagan era conservative to neoliberal"
Same thing
@@wilhelmseleorningcniht9410 Carter, too. He put healthcare reform on the platform to avoid a primary challenge he'd get later in 1980 and quickly put it off his agenda as he pushed the first major deregulation legislation that dismantled an entire regulatory structure. Something Reagan expressed approval for until he ran of course.
Conservative to Neoliberal... wait a minute, you mean conservative to extreme conservatism? So the same thing just more severe? - that was my line of thought when he said that lol
Yeah, I get the feeling that, while he's certainly done some research on this, his knowledge on modern day political structures lands somewhere in the uncanny valley. It's close, but its' not right.
I know he kept saying trumps rhetoric was populist, which it certainly could be argued that it is at times, it's hard to ever look at trump the politician nowadays and think he is a populist. Saying him and Sanders came from the same cloth is...questionable lets' say.
All Perot would have needed to do was stay in the campaign from start to finish instead of dropping out from June to September. We all loved him, he was winning in June when he suddenly made up a crazy sounding excuse and dropped out for three months.
Ross Perot was actually leading in the polls at one point so it isn't as unlikely as you think that he could have won
Did you know the CIA tried to kill Ross Perot, thats why he backed out of the race for a short time.
@@jenovasephiroth Did you know that I'm riding this horse backwards?
What if: the middle east was able to determine their own borders instead of france and britain doing it for them
They’d either be thriving or doing terrible. No in between. Because Britain and France have a tendency of sticking their noses where they don’t belong
@@caniaskyoukindofaweirdques7053 yeah pretty sure terrorism would not really exist or no where nearly as big, since its the west and USSR and Russian that started and funded them
Would end in war
Lots of menial conflicts. That or the Ottoman empire would still exist.
he’s already done this
Watching this, I'm remembering the '04 election (I was 3) and seeing my mom with an "I voted sticker" and me asking what a political party is...
Now I'm thinking of an alternate scenario where my mom would be talking about that "third party that has miraculously gained enough momentum that it actually holds seats in congress."
>"before Bernie"
>it's the 1990's
> *laughs in empty house floor speeches*
Man we have been feeling the burn for a while
@you're in mandomI mean, at the very least, he is running as a Democrat, which at least gives him a much better shot at presidency than third party.
Also, no one plans to lose, there still might've been a chance for Bernie if Warren had just dropped out and endorsed him before super tuesday.
@you're in mandom Indeed
@you're in mandom Ah yes, the man who tried to reform policy so a gfc could never happen again shills for the establishment.
If you hate compromise and don't believe in anything ever getting done, go vote greens.
"before Bernie was a thing"
I wonder who else like him we missed out on?
8:05 I Suddenly remembered trumps 2000 run at this moment and had the sudden realization of where this was going.
Hoo boy
"Nothing Bill did was crazy or exceptional."
He bombed Serbia. That could've been avoided.
Psshh, presidents bomb places all the time. That's not crazy or exceptional.
obama bombed syria,
truman nuked japan twice,
trump bombed that one iraq leader
presidents bombing places isn’t special
@@realspartan5206 truman BOMBS WHO USES BOMBS
@Despairing Sperg The Last Part of your comment is simply a lie. Trump started off with lots of bombing and then decreased it.
Would the ethnic cleansing going on there have ended if we didn't intervene?
When he said that we don’t know who Ross Perot was. I cried inside.
I actually used him winning as an alternate history for my book that I'm writing. It doesn't take center stage but acts as an explanation for why things are different in my world lol.
Im very familiar with pero. I was a teenager then, he made a lot of waves when he entered the race. Oh man, the Dana Carvey SNL skits were hysterical!.
*Perot
"It's rare that a candidate is ever all to do all the things they promised while running"
Actually, there was a study that showed that the average President DOES meet around 2/3rds of their campaign promises, and if they fail at the other third it's usually not for lack of trying but simply being foiled by politicians on the other side.
Yeah, but that is for ordinary presidents, not outsiders.
Politics (once you are in office) is the art of making deals and balancing interests.
Presidents who have a party machine at their back, especially ones who have worked their way up the ladder, come into office with pre-made political alliance networks and a solid knowledge base about which sub-factions of the parties can be leveraged to action which policies. They will have their hands full with controversial proposals, but they can get a lot of the basics done with minimal fuss by just enlisting their network's support.
Outsider candidates lack those advantages (unless the party machine decides to adopt them, a la Mitch McConnell & Trump). For people like Schwarzenegger (or Perot, or probably Sanders), there are no freebies. Every policy they want enacted has to be exhaustively horsetraded with every side; and they are their only champions. They can't rely on lower level powerbrokers expending time, effort, and political capital on their behalf the way a conventional candidate can.
I think bernie would've been in the reform party in this timeline
Bernie and President Trump on the same side... now thats a weird one to think about.
And aoc and Steve Banon this would been weard timeline
@@ponysoftonline4533 they definitely are not on the same side, they just both had anti establishment appeal for very different reasons. The difference is that Trump pretended to be anti establishment and Bernie Sanders is actually anti establishment
@Joseph Walsh he a succdem. Although he could be hiding his true self.
@@louisbuonocore8742 Bernie anti establishment? Dude he literally bent over and let the dems fuck him hard TWICE! I'd respect him if he's only stick to his guns instead of letting Ms.Clitface and Mr.Demensia walk all over him.
Teddy Rosevelt was a third party candidate. Third parties (and sometimes 4th) were actually way more common in the 1800's.
This guy could’ve saved america
If only he hadn't dropped out at the last second...
Kang: 'Its a two party system, you have to vote for one of us!'
Random Guy: 'We will vote for a 3rd party!'
Kodos: 'Go Ahead, Throw Your Vote Away!'
Unfortunately we’d never see two old men with memory loss fighting each other on national television 😔
Wait... I thought we did?
Biden doesn't have memory loss, nor does he have dementia
@@curranfrank2854 ikr ? Biden is a legit nice person who suffered stutter and the loss of almost all his family. It bothers me that some are trying to equate him with an asshole like Trump.
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Lets just ignore the entire 1994 Crime Bill and the fact he advocated invading Iraq as early as 98.
And lets ignore how he and Obama bombed more countries than Bush did despite promising not to.
I really triggered the far right with my comment here. Biden is a moderate, he won and he'll soon be your president. You should accept that and start working with him instead of pushing people away from the right.
Bruh I had to look him up, He just died last year! He was like 90 years old! Id'e love to know his opinions of Trump and both Party's
I often wonder what would have happened if Gore won in 2000 as well. It's amazing but also kinda scary to think that just one small change in the timeline can create an entirely different future.
"Nothing Bill did was particularly crazy"
Screams in GLBA
GLBA definitely had a bigger impact, but the Federal """Assault""" Weapons Ban was also particularly dumb as fuck and annoying.
Normie
He repealed Glass-Stegall, which directly led to the 2008 financial crash.
Well let's see. GLBA, DOMA, Crime Bill, gutting support for working families, Glass-Steagal...
...Epstein...
Oh and let's not forget blocking humanitarian intervention in and even denying the Rwandan Genocide and delaying intervention in Bosnia for a few years.
Why do I feel like these would all happen with a Republican in office too?
@@wildfire9280 Depends, but generally, it would happen with a repub in office as well, probably. We all BADLY need to get off of this narrative that one party is worse than the other, and/or, "We can't let the other side win!"
35, I remember Ross Perot
We're all proud of you!
You were still young though.
Do “What if Japan chose the northern invasion plan in WWII?”
@@GreyRChan that isn't the northern plan. The Japanese went with the southern plan, which was naval domination. The northern plan was more army centric and focused on China, but specifically invading the Soviets.
Probably the only path to victory that existed for the Axis powers. Total lack of allied coordination between Japan and Germany existed. Had both been engaged with war with the Soviets however, it is suddenly unlikely that Moscow survives it's second winter.
@@GreyRChan Japan needed oil. The Northern Plan (Army) was to invade the Soviet Union and seize the oil in Kamchatka. The Southern Plan (Navy) was to invade and seize the oil in the Philippines and Dutch East Indies.
The idea to not go that route wasn't just made on a whim, the Japanese probed the Soviets in minor skirmishes and lost, hence why they signed the non-aggression pact with them
*Imagine one protester holding Confederate flags and burning Trump statues*
*and a Counter-Protester wearing MAGA hats and holding Trump's healthcare signs*
how did we got to here
Trump doesn't stand for Racism that's the way the left gets there way
@@jamesk5541 he's racist now
@@jasonskeans3327 at least from the left's standpoint everybody is an ist,ism or phobe we all have our labels and will continue to be labeled until the labelers stop
This is why I choose not to go with mainstream Society
@@djmars1983 Well conservatives tend to be more discriminatory. They're the ones pushing for anti gay legislation, transphobic measurements and insist there's no difference in how the justice system treats blacks vs whites.
So, even if a candidate wins, for example, 70% of the popular vote, but didn't win the electoral vote, he would lose. I hate how undemocratic and democratic the U.S is.
Yep.
7:25 Ted Cruz with Big Boss/Venom Snake eye patch, facial scars, and shrapnel horn is fucking hilarious.
@J Ygb Venom Snake was a medic, who underwent a decade of hypnosis while in a coma to assume the identity of Big Boss, and unknowingly take his place. He was involved in Afghanistan in the 80's during the Soviet occupation. While deployed, he single handedly took down Sahelanthropus, and saved the world from a nuclear war.
Damn I wish this was the Trump that got into office.
yeah not... this spooky republican trump lol
You have to be joking
@Quodlibeta
1. Your "far left" is called centrist in the rest of the world.
2. What insane reaction are you talking about?
3. Trump is a conman, he seeks out the most gullible people, that's why he went far right. He doesn't have views, he reads the crowd and tells them what they want to hear. That's why he holds rallies all the time.
@@andrasbiro3007 to be honest what's left-wing and right-wing is always viewed through a biased lense depending on where you are from. Just because amaricans see part of the democratic party as more left-wing doesn't make them wrong... Nor does it make the rest of the world right. It's just a different perspective.
@@andrasbiro3007 >What insane reaction are you talking about?
Have you... been asleep the last 4 years?
This channel is singlehandedly saving my history grade
Two party systems are something you really can’t escape.
I don’t have the capability to explain it. But many countries started as a multiparty state. But math shows that eventually it will always end with a two party system
However. This is quite astonishing. Love the video!
Unless your England than you have the Queen
@@phoenixrising4995 sad that this is the first thing that came to your mind, because the UK has a real interesting thing going on with its party system.
true, only two parties have won government in the past century (Conservatives and Labour) but they constantly have little fires lit under them by the many other parties that get elected.
the Liberal Democrats, the traditional third party, won enough seats in 2010 that they got to actually be in government.
the Scottish Nationalists have slowly gained support starting in the 70s or 90s to the point that they got that independence referendum in 2014. they lost that one, but to this day they have most of the Scottish seats in Westminster.
not to mention that in 2015, UKIP siphoned enough votes from the Conservatives that they got a referendum in 2016 about the UK's status in the European Union.
_Brexit happened because of a third party._
Actually, Denmark is a multiparty coalition system. The Danish constitution states that no political party can hold more than 2% of the total available seats in the Foketing (Danish version of congress). It is entirely possible. That whole math thing is a cop out. The whole reason why our two party system is so entrenched here in the US is due entirely to the existence of the electoral college. It is literally a self imposed system. It won't change because all the people in power benefit from it and most of the rest of the masses just blindly accept it.
Four-five party state makes sense, but especially if you use ranked choice voting instead of first-past-the-post. How it works in theory:
1. Republicans: fiscal & social conservatives
2. Democrats: fiscal & social liberals
3. Libertarians: fiscal conservatives, social liberals
4. ???: fiscal liberals, social conservatives
5. Centrists: moderate on most/all issues
Then in Congress the Libertarians vote with Republicans on fiscal issues, but with the Democrats on social issues.
The problem in practice is that America has almost nobody that aligns with party #4, and most Libertarians are either anti-government radicals OR they're actually LINOs (Libertarians In Name Only) i.e. Republicans unwilling to identify as Republicans, for whatever reason.
Dude you just made a blast from the past! I was too young to vote for him but both my parents did! His 30min “economic classes” taught me a lot! 90’s were hella rad!
Every single one of these videos I realize we truly live in the worst timeline
I am still wishing we ended up with a Teddy Roosevelt third term.
The worse timeline is the one where the cold war went nuclear not this one...
@@alw2839
2020 isn't over yet, you can still find out that nuclear war would have been the better option.
That’s not true at all, our timeline is great compared to all the terrible possibilities.
@@bullmoosemedia I want one where Dems didn't replace FDRs VP with Truman and the 2 terms amendment was never written, we could have cemented a labor legacy of presidents and never engaged in the cold war or the red scare, we would've never seen a Nixon or Reagan presidency and probably would've dodged all of the neoliberalism from the 90's on.
I remember the ‘92 election. I was 12-years-old and him taking that much of the popular vote was huge news. We discussed in serious detail in social studies
I've heard of Ross Perot, but I was three in 1992, so I had no idea about that election. Thanks for the history
It’s funny you mentioned Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul along with Ross Perot, because to me these are the most honest candidates that I have ever known about during my life time.
Two more what if candidates that you could do a what-if video about would be Eugene Debs and Samuel Tilden.
If only he hadn't mysteriously dropped out as he was winning...
Almost like he was controlled opposition used in order to get Clinton to win....
He claimed at the time that someone had threatened his family although he never said who which made him appear nuttier than a fruitcake and lost him a lot of votes
Ross Perot is much better than anyone who’s being in the White House since 1994
lol i love armchair economists fawning over illogical populists like perot after a snazzy youtube video says hes cool
@@Anthony-ct3cv Or because everyone realizes he was right about NAFTA and China.
@@Anthony-ct3cv Also, what are you if not an armchair economist? A lot of PROFESSIONAL economists, including those quoted in this video, think NAFTA was a disaster.
@@Anthony-ct3cv I have 2 ivy league degrees; constitutional law and business. I also founded and operate a geopolitical consultancy that exclusively advises hedge funds.
He is correct
@@Anthony-ct3cv i was going to reply but these nice gentlemen have put you in your place. BTW I was very much conscious and alive when Perot was running and he did get many things right in his forecast.
these videos have the most rewatch value ive ever seen on youtube
What if the US had multi-party system?
Yeah there are about 4, the Green Party, the libertarian party, the Democrat party and the Republican Party. I think there are a few smaller ones also
Technically its perfectly open to one. Let's say the communist party (just an example) somehow gets popular enough, it's main leaders start running for offices, and starts winning them, they'd be in congress. But usually they always get stomped out by the Republicans and democrats, so it doesn't happen. But its perfectly possible
@@alexiarai955 But as we've seen from other countries where Communists achieved political power, they don't take kindly to other parties who think differently from them.
@@Ostalgie658 Besides Democrats and Republicans the others are pretty irrelevant if you ask me. Not because I think their positions are bad, but there are SO many low info voters that will just vote D or R down the board without looking at policies and the candidates themselves.
If you want more than two parties then stop voting for the two parties and vote for someone else.
Punished Ted killed me
If Ross Perot hadn't dropped out, and re-entered the race, he very well could have won the whole thing. I still believe that to this day.
I think I have an interesting idea for a video. From what I know, Thomas Jefferson originally wanted to condemn slavery in the DOI but decided against it to not lose southern states support. So what would have happened if Jefferson did condemn slavery in the DOI? Would the south not support the northern states in the Revolutionary War? Would the Revolutionary War go the same but with the Civil War being much earlier? I think there are numerous ways this could go
We probably would have had quite a different country today.
The dude literally had an economist as his running mate.
He would have been an amazing president, and my generation probably would not have been so damned apathetic towards democracy, and all the good it has the ability to produce.
I voted for him in 96
He likely would have been a bad president.
@@kordellswoffer1520 I disagree. Why would you say that? Have you read about him sending in his cavalry to take his staff in Iran, overland, out of harms way just before the Iranian hostage crisis? Yes, he did even go over himself at some risk, no doubt, there was a book written about it. Hiliary Clinton was your foreign secretary at the time, she could not, or would not, see the danger to the U.S embassy staff, they were held hostage for a long, long time. I do believe Ross Perot may well have been the best president you never had. Were you around at that time? A very difficult chapter for the U.S.A.
@@open-minded-oldie him sending people to Iran is meaningless as it pertains to be a president and Hillary has little to do with the conversation.
He would have been a bad president because he be ineffective and ubable to get his agenda done because he's not part of any main party and his agenda itself is bad and would make him a bad president. America would have been better served from another Reagan presidency and he was suffering from early on set dementia.
@@kordellswoffer1520 That"s interesting. To me, getting his workers out of Iran before the hostage crisis, it showed he cared about his staff. It says a lot about his character. That is worth it"s weight in gold for a mans integrity, plus, the most important part---------- they all ended up in a place of safety, so it was a success. Surely an able man is better than an incompetant one? I only mention Hiliary to make the point about his ability to get important things done, having forseen problems. When i say "The Cavalry" i did not mean U.S troops. Yes, you are probably right about him trying to get various laws passed with great difficulty but i don"t feel his agenda was bad.
If he won 23% of the popular vote, it would technically be possible for Perot to win the electoral college. He'd have to take every (and I mean EVERY small state AND DC) but it could technically be done.
"2 party system would become 3"
No it wouldn't. The EC still guarantees that all presidential elections will be 2-party affairs. Approval voting would help a lot, but the EC applies a massive high-pass statistical filter to the results.
Yep. Even with 3 decent parties, the election would fall to Congress every single time.
Never thought I’d agree so much with an early 2000’s Trump
And only goes to show that we're stuck with trickle down economic and the oligarchy. Who was the last presidential candidate from either party that advocated for Demand side economics? Both parties prevent change, and keep funneling up the wealth with Trickle down economics.
@@abeertariq1051 Supply Side Economics is not Trickle Down Economics. If you believe it is, then you have been mislead.
@@CaliMeatWagon supply side economics isn't worth bringing up because we've never implemented it in the way the theorists proposed. As I said in another comment, Reagan used it to enrich the rich. We need Demand side economics.
Interesting to see, but I really doubt that he would have actually implemented those policies, even back then.
Fr Im like based Trump wtf
Perot's 1992 electoral map is interesting. The 10 states he got the highest percentage of the vote in were Maine (30.4%), Alaska, Utah, Idaho, Kansas, Nevada, Montana, Wyoming, Oregon and Minnesota. Those could be generalized as mostly northern frontier states. His 10 worst states were Mississippi (8.7%), Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, South Carolina, Louisiana, Georgia, Virginia, Kentucky, and North Carolina. Basically the Confederacy. I wonder what it was about Perot's message that divided the South from the conservative parts of the north. He also did noticeably better in all of the New England states than he did in all of the Mid-Atlantic states, splitting the Northeast bloc. The Rust Belt states were all square in the middle.
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Thanks for making this man. Ross has needed the spotlight with our generation. You should do something on mitch mcconnell man. Ive been doing a research paper on him and everything about the modern republican party can be traced back to him in some way or another. Would be such a cool thing to see what would happen if he stayed the way he was when he marched with Dr king and how that wouldve shaped American politics in the 2000s
In the late 90's, Trump specifically suggested a one-time 10% tax on those with $10 million or more, and using the money to pay off the national debt. Probably wouldn't have worked, but it was published in magazines and got him some attention back in the 90's.
About Perot: I was on the left when I developed a political consciousness back in the 90's, and everyone knew then that NAFTA was a bad idea. The only people who liked low-barrier global trade were economists, who always miss the point. American politics should prioritize Americans.
Actually voted for him. Felt he was one of the few businessmen that actually could have made things work as a president.
Honestly Ross Perot sounds like a good guy. Like Clinton was okay, but sounds like he (Perot) had some great ideas. Progressive.