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  • TREE OF THE MONTH: Native Americans recognize Yaupon Holly, Ilex vomitoria, at the "Beloved Tree." It grows as an understory shrub or small tree.
    Long before Europeans arrived, Native Americans made a caffeinated beverage, known as the Black Drink, from toasted leaves of this plant. The drink was typically used in rituals promoting purity, peace and friendship. The leaves were traded with tribes outside the plant's natural range. It was offered to former enemies during peacemaking ceremonies. While the recipe can vary between tribes, the full formula was not given to outsiders. It is speculated that the black drink may have contained emetic herbs in addition to yaupon leaves, since rituals often, but not always, included vomiting. Europeans did not vomit when they were given the black drink. Although the scientific name for yaupon holly, Ilex vomitoria, refers to vomiting, the leaves do not cause vomiting.
    In my opinion, yaupon leaves make an awesome tea, reminiscent of green tea, but with a better flavor and loaded with caffeine. When collecting the leaves, avoid the red berries. They will make you vomit. Also, do not mistake yaupon holly for the similar looking, toxic, non-native, Chinese privet (Ligustrum sinenese).
    There are many different ways to prepare yaupon leaves for tea. The leaves first need to be dried or toasted to release the caffeine, similar to roasting coffee beans. The traditional approach was to cut fresh branches and put them over a fire with hot rocks or a clay bowl until brown. Water was added and the brew was boiled for a while, resulting in a black drink. I prefer to make my tea weaker, so the flavor is similar to green tea. When I make yaupon tea at home, I either 1) air dry the leaves in the garage for a few weeks, 2) dry them on a cookie sheet in an oven set at 175 F for an hour, or 3) roast them on a cookie sheet in an oven at 400 F for a few minutes. Each approach results in a different flavor.
    During the American Civil War, yaupon tea was used as a coffee substitute throughout the South. Yaupon was a common drink until the early 1900s when its use was stigmatized as a drink for rural, poor southerners. In the early 2000s yaupon tea began witnessing a resurgence in popularity, and can now be purchased online and at several historical sites related to Native Americans. Tea purchased in this way is expensive, often costing $8 to $10 an ounce.
    We will make this tea and hand out packets of yaupon leaves at the Spring Bushcraft Meetup at Big South Fork, 14-18 May 2016. • Video
    References:
    Yaupon Fact Sheet. US Department of Agriculture Natural Resources Conservation Service plants.usda.gov...
    Yaupon Holly, Foraging Texas. Merriwether’s Guide to Edible Wild Plants of Texas and the Southwest www.foragingtex...
    Black Drink, A Native American Tea, 1979, Charles M. Hudson, Editor, University of Georgia Press
    Ilex Cassine: The aboriginal North American tea : its history, distribution, and use among the native American Indians, 1891, Edwin Moses Hale, Bulletin U.S. Dept. of Agriculture. Division of Botany.
    Here’s the Buzz On America’s Forgotten Native ‘Tea’ Plant, 2015, Murray Carpenter. www.npr.org/sec...
    People in the Southwestern United States drank caffeinated drinks in 750 AD. 2015, Robin Whitlock. www.ancient-ori...
    Scientific names matter to marketability: A taste test of infusions of a native Florida holly (Ilex vomitoria) and yerba mate
    (I. paraguariensis), A. E. Wainwright and F.E. Putz Scientific names matter to marketability: A taste test of infusions of a native Florida…
    DISCLAIMER: This video provides only a summary. Seek additional information before eating anything with which you are not familiar. Do not eat wild plants unless you definitely know what they are and you know how you will react. Some edible wild plants have poisonous look-alikes. You may be allergic to some edible wild plants. If you are at all unsure, don't eat it. I assume no legal liability or responsibility for injuries resulting from use of information in this video.
    Videography by Ken Kramm, 20 November 2015, Sam Houston National Forest, Texas, USA; Canon Vixia HF G10, iPhone 6+; Final Cut Pro X. Public Domain and Creative Commons photographs. “Lost In the Forest” Doug Maxwell/Media Right Productions, UA-cam Audio Library. “Are you from Dixie, cause I’m from Dixie too” Bill Murray and chorus, Issue Number Edison Blue Amber: 2942, Release year 1916, Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 2.5 License, cylinders.libra...

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  • @RodCornholio
    @RodCornholio 8 років тому +17

    Thanks for pleasing my inner child. The older I get, the rarer it is to hear about something for the first time. This is phenomenal information.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому +3

      +RodCornholio Thanks! It was fun to do the research for this video. .....ken

  • @GatorLife57
    @GatorLife57 8 років тому +1

    Thumbs up.Wado (ty) for honoring are native people. I am Cherokee and proud of my heritage ! I honor you Ken for sharing this.ENJOY....THE SIMPLE LIFE

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Wolf Travels2 Thank you for watching and commenting. You're feedback means a lot to me. ATB, Ken

  • @yellowdeer7163
    @yellowdeer7163 8 років тому +3

    Great Video and informative. Interesting that a lot of landscapers plant Yaupon Holly in the Dallas area. Thanks Ken and hope you all have a festive Thanksgiving. And Bob too!

  • @jamesgreen4522
    @jamesgreen4522 8 років тому

    Glad to hear that you are bringing some leafs to meetup. Looking forward to trying some.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +james green Can't wait for the meetup! ....ken

  • @joeramirez8701
    @joeramirez8701 6 років тому +1

    I got a whole lot of these plants in my back yard ,wow

  • @elvinamillaneam
    @elvinamillaneam 8 років тому +2

    Ok... thanks keep those history lesson coming. ..

  • @windhamcabin
    @windhamcabin 8 років тому

    Excellent and informative video Ken! I hope someday to have that chance to try it :) Happy Holidays -Chris

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Windham Woodcraft Thanks Chris. May you too have a Merry Christmas and happy Holiday Season.

  • @Getawaymoments
    @Getawaymoments 8 років тому

    Great video Ken, I had never heard of this, but now I know. Your channel is a perfect example of why the UA-cam community it great! Thanks for sharing!

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Getawaymoments Your feedback means a lot to me. Thank you. Getawaymoments is also a perfect example of what the UA-cam community is great! Cheers, Ken

  • @davidgann3251
    @davidgann3251 6 років тому +3

    Wow, this is neat! I've only ever made sassafras tea. I bet that sassafras may have been something that was mixed in with this by earlier folk. Guess I'll be hunting for some local yaupon now. Cheers!

    • @davidgann3251
      @davidgann3251 4 роки тому

      @Vitor Mundim Why would you want to grow sassafras and yaupon when you could grow coffee instead? Brazil produces some great coffee!

  • @getAMCIVideos
    @getAMCIVideos 8 років тому

    Very nice and educational video as always, great job.

  • @Bob808Knight
    @Bob808Knight 8 років тому +1

    Hi Ken..I love that song you used for your intro. I have got to get a copy of that... Very informative video. I know you did a lot of research on this one... I think I'm out of the yaupon tea that you give to me on our last get together.
    . So I can't wait till spring meet up to get some more... .... Two thumbs up for sure .. :-)

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Bob808Knight Thanks Bob. It's going to be fun to see everyone. ATB, Ken

  • @sjohnson1776
    @sjohnson1776 8 років тому

    Awesome Ken! Thanks a bunch. ATB -Steve

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +sjohnson1776 You're welcome Steve.

  • @ManLand
    @ManLand 8 років тому

    It is by far most adventurous to see my favorite and well known Kenneth, drinking Tea and sharing his knowledge to us the fans...Peace my Brother and Good Will to all the Countries.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому +1

      +Man Land (Midnight121) Thanks for the kind words. ATB, Ken

  • @funkyprepper
    @funkyprepper 8 років тому +1

    love your videos ken, very nicely presented.
    that must of been very important back then - caffeine is a great focus generator for the mind.
    take care my friend

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +funkyprepper Thanks for your kind comments. This drink was held in high regard...It is very interesting to read the journals from some of the early explorers....

  • @southpawmd3994
    @southpawmd3994 8 років тому

    Thanks for the video, can't wait to try Yaupon tea on my next overnighter.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +SouthpawMD You're welcome. Yaupon tea is a wonderful drink. Cheers, Ken

  • @scruff_uk
    @scruff_uk 8 років тому

    Fantastic video Ken. Again with so much wonderful information on traditional, aboriginal american cultures and cuisine.
    Thank you and warm wishes from West Yorkshire
    Thom

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Scruff UK Hi Thom. Thanks for watching and commenting from West Yorkshire~ Peace, Ken

  • @billyjoedenny
    @billyjoedenny 8 років тому

    i would enjoy a cup of tea ken, especially with some caffeine . the Appalachians used american holly to make black mnt tea, that lacked caffeine and maybe some of the great benefits of yaupon holly. this a great video of the month my friend, and i can't wait to sit around the camp fire in the spring and enjoy some tea..
    take care ken..
    ..bill

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +billy joe denny Yes. This is the only plant in North America that has caffeine. All the best bill. ......ken

  • @woodyjlw
    @woodyjlw 8 років тому

    That tea sounds really good! sorry I wont be at this meet up this spring, we will be having our new baby around the 9th of may. may is gonna be an exciting month for us. Ill have to look and see if there are any places around here that sell it. Not sure it grows up here in Missouri.
    Thanks for the video! hope to see you again soon!

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Jeremy Woodward The tea is awesome. Maybe Bob Knight will bring some back for you and Stephanie. Having a new baby is awesome! I remember how our lives changed after our first child. Great memories.... It should grow in Missouri.... ken

  • @danykao4134
    @danykao4134 8 років тому

    Thanks for sharing this video. It's very interesting facts.

  • @kevins1114
    @kevins1114 8 років тому

    I need to try this. There are several Yaupon plants in my back yard. Many thanks for telling us about this.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Kevin S You'e enjoy the tea! You're welcome, ken

  • @bl00drawtruth41
    @bl00drawtruth41 7 років тому

    Yes! just planted mine a couple weeks ago

  • @darfirst
    @darfirst 8 років тому

    Great video as always. I'm going to see what I can do about finding or even buying some. Sounds like a great drink. Thanks for the heads up on this. Your the best.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +darfirst You'll enjoy the tea! I'm curious to know your reaction.....

  • @davves69
    @davves69 4 роки тому +1

    Have you found a way to mimic the original black drink recipe without a fire? It's not every day that you get to build a camp fire in Houston.

  • @monicajones8450
    @monicajones8450 8 років тому

    Hey Ken, Happy Thanksgiving. I wish you and your family blessings today. Thanks so much for all your videos, I love them.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Monica Jones Thanks Monica for your kind words. Merry Christmas. Enjoy the holiday season. ATB, Ken

  • @swaintx
    @swaintx 8 років тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this information Bob

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Bob H You're welcome Bob. .....ken

  • @jacqueline7118
    @jacqueline7118 8 років тому

    Wonderful video Ken, very informative! Thanks for sharing!

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Jacqueline Schwartz You're welcome!

  • @BlueowlProductions
    @BlueowlProductions 8 років тому

    Great video, Ken! Thanks for yet another cool recipe to try!

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +BlueowlProductions You're welcome. ...ken

  • @themiwoodsman7222
    @themiwoodsman7222 8 років тому

    Great info ,great video as always Ken !
    atb john

  • @loaizacam1934
    @loaizacam1934 8 років тому +1

    Excellent! Thank you.

  • @CarolinaChrisOutdoors
    @CarolinaChrisOutdoors 8 років тому +1

    Hey Ken---If I would've had a professor like you in college, I may still be there. Not because I would not have completed the courses, but I just wouldn't want to leave!!! Thanks for your entertaining, and educational videos. This might just be the one that convinces me make the trip to Tennessee in 2016. Still have to check with Billy Joe to see if there's plenty of trees for hammocks at the group site though!!!

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Carolina Chris Thanks Carolina Chris. You put a smile on my face. I enjoyed being a college professor and my classes were always popular. Yes there are plenty of trees for hammocks at the group site. Hope to see you there... ken

  • @calebwhittington3749
    @calebwhittington3749 8 років тому

    The plant that you'll run into most that somewhat resembles yaupon is Chinese privet. Privet has leaves that get up to about an inch in width, they're a light green, they produce small dark purple berries in the summer, and the bark is light tan..Yaupon on the other hand, has smaller but thicker leaves, about a quarter to half inch in width, they're darker green and have small rounded teeth on edges. The bark is also a white/grey as opposed to privets tan.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому +1

      Yaupon is similar looking to Chinese Privet, as you say, except the leaves are alternate versus opposite. Tea made from Privet is poisonous; so folks need to be very careful ....

  • @virginiacopeland108
    @virginiacopeland108 8 років тому

    Thanks, --- Clark

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Virginia Bradley You're welcome, Clark. ....ken

  • @TeamDisoriented
    @TeamDisoriented 8 років тому +1

    As you said, the yaupon tea is very much like green tea, if the leaves are not toasted very long. I tried making the darker brew but the taste wasn't nearly as good to me. What I'd really like is to mix yaupon with chicory. Chicory giving the coffee-like taste but with no caffeine and the yaupon adding the caffeine, but I can't find chicory around northwest Florida. Plenty of yaupon though. For tea, I like pine needle tea the best because of its citrus flavor. Another great video. BTW, I really like the day pack. Where did you get it?

  • @kimfroman2023
    @kimfroman2023 Рік тому +1

    I am going to stop cutting down my yaupon trees!

  • @jackwalsh1468
    @jackwalsh1468 8 років тому

    Ken, a very informative video. Thank you, Cheers, Mate.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Jack Walsh You're welcome Jack. ATB, Ken

  • @capefearcapt4679
    @capefearcapt4679 3 роки тому

    I made some once and it was pretty rough. Yaupon grows everywhere here on the NC coast.

  • @FitzcoFilms
    @FitzcoFilms 5 років тому

    Thanks for the video...I know this is 3 years old, but I have only recently found your channel. Please make an updated video showing the plant you use up close and comparing it to the other "look alikes" such as the Chinese Privet. A recepie would be great as well. It was hard to tell the ratio of leaves to water, as well as the boil time for the dark drink. Ratios and steep times for the green is needed as well. I want to do this, and pass on the knowledge, but I want it to be right.
    Love the videos...i have made it about 3/4 through all of them.....until next time....PEACE.

  • @Taromovies
    @Taromovies 8 років тому

    Hi Ken, thanks for another informativ Video, like it a lot!!! all the best, Taro

  • @sharoncrowe-snooshomestead3536
    @sharoncrowe-snooshomestead3536 8 років тому

    Thank you, you showed me something about my Creek heritage. I can't wait to try it. I love chaga dark. To me chaga has a great earthy taste. I love the other tea's that I have tried.. pine, sassafras.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +sharon crowe Thanks. Your feedback means a lot to me. ATB, Ken

  • @DroneGirl1
    @DroneGirl1 8 років тому

    Brilliant work and I learned some new things :) Thanks for your wonderful upload and thumbs up ! God Bless you! :)

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Drone Girl Thanks for watching and taking time to comment. Your channel is awesome! ...ken

    • @DroneGirl1
      @DroneGirl1 8 років тому

      KennethKramm Cheers Ken and Have a lovely Christmas :)

  • @TexasScout
    @TexasScout 8 років тому

    Another outstanding video, thank you Kenneth. I always look for (backwards?) to your videos of the "old ways".
    Tex

  • @WiltshireMan
    @WiltshireMan 8 років тому +1

    Hi Ken,
    Another wonderful video. I remember how this tea tastes as you sent me some leave to try a year or two ago. I drank then making a green tea with them. If I get some more in the future I will try the black version. Sure looks good. Likes the spoon too. I have one here in the corner of the living room with some other goodies that you sent to me. I call it "The Kramm Corner":)
    Now a lesson in the proper use of the Queens English. The pronunciation of the word "Herb" We say it with a H where as the colonies just say Urb. Thats how it sounds to me anyway.
    In any case you have been corrected now:)
    Keep drinking the tea and you will live long and prosper.
    Peace Man.
    Sandy

    • @bobbyharper8710
      @bobbyharper8710 8 років тому +1

      +Wiltshire Man Yes Sandy, it seems Americans follow the French pronunciation of "herbe" where the h is silent.

    • @xenoptryx
      @xenoptryx 8 років тому +1

      +Wiltshire Man There isn't anymore colonies Sandy. FYI. :)

    • @gordonpage1
      @gordonpage1 8 років тому +1

      +Joe Schlabotnick
      The Scots have yet to break free, Joe.

    • @gordonpage1
      @gordonpage1 8 років тому +1

      +Joe Schlabotnick
      The Scots have yet to break free, Joe.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Wiltshire Man Thanks for watching and commenting Sandy. I made the spoon a few years ago from a shell found in a nearby lake and pine-pitch glue. It works great! Glad you are keeping your spoon and other goodies that I sent in the corner of the living room. Big Smile. When I was a kid, I pronounced the H in the word Herb; but was corrected that it is silent.... ohhh the interesting changes to the Queens English. Peace, Ken

  • @GreyOwl8
    @GreyOwl8 8 років тому

    The things you learn... Cheers, my friend! **slurps tea** :)

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому +1

      +Kerstin 'GreyOwl' Thanks Kerstin! ....ken

  • @karlo8093
    @karlo8093 8 років тому

    Thanks Ken. do you know, doe it grow in the middle TN area. I am specifically located near Land Between the Lakes area. about 3-4 hours west of Big South Fork.
    I am planning on going to the meet-up this coming spring. Looking forward to meeting you, and now trying the tea

  • @southpawbushcraft7522
    @southpawbushcraft7522 8 років тому

    Great informative video Ken I would love to try that tea I wish I knew if that plant grew in Wisconsin I don't recall seeing it. All the best, Dawn

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +SouthPaw Bushcraft Good Question Dawn. Wisconsin is probably too cold for the plant to grow. ....ken

  • @diddybushcraftnoutdoors8072
    @diddybushcraftnoutdoors8072 8 років тому

    I was going to ask you if you could bring plenty extra at the meet up so I could take some home with me. We have something around here that looks kind of like it but I don't really know. I call it shrub brush or wild brush. When I made it it tasted like green tea but I'd like to try try black drink.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +DiddyBushcraftnOutdoors Hi John. Yaupon grows like a wild brush! I was surprised how nice the black drink tasted.... stronger and different from the green version.... Take care, Ken

  • @elvinamillaneam
    @elvinamillaneam 8 років тому

    Peace Ken... Hey Ken is there a way I can order a package of tea from you... love the history lesson. ..

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Elvin A Millan Thanks for the request Elvin. I'm not in the business of selling tea. However, do a Google search for, Yaupon Tea, and you will see several suppliers of the leaves that are roasted in various ways. Enjoy. ....Ken

  • @hikewithmike4673
    @hikewithmike4673 8 років тому

    very interesting....I think the Mayans and/or the Aztecs used this tea as well!.....shows the evidence of the extensive trade network that existed amongst the tribes of North America and Central America

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому +1

      +Hike with Mike There was extensive trade...much further than originally realized. Recent techniques of analyzing traces of Yaupon plant material on pottery have shown that the leaves were used much beyond the distribution of Yaupon Plants.

  • @ScottishWanderer
    @ScottishWanderer 8 років тому +1

    great video enjoyed that as always
    stuart

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому +1

      +SCOTTISH WANDERER Thanks Stuart!

  • @berke2336
    @berke2336 8 років тому

    I've read about the "black drink", is this the same drink that some native tribes used as an energy booster before hunts?
    By the way, great video as always!

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Berke Beidler Yes, the drink was used for improved focus and better decision making.

  • @cnawan
    @cnawan 8 років тому

    Neat. Wikipedia says it's related to Yerba mate and European holly

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +cnawan It's an interesting plant. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @MikeOfKorea
    @MikeOfKorea 8 років тому

    When the video began, I thought it was going to be about chicory. Then I looked up chicory and found it isn't native to the Americas. I will have to try this next summer when I'm in Tennessee.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +MikeOfKorea Awesome. You're welcome to join our bushcraft meetup at Big South Fork, TN. ATB, Ken

    • @MikeOfKorea
      @MikeOfKorea 8 років тому

      +KennethKramm That would be a treat, but our semester runs to the middle of June. Thanks for the kind offer, though.

  • @squito94
    @squito94 7 років тому

    Can you make the same tea with Ilex opaca?

  • @1958bytor
    @1958bytor 5 років тому

    Can you use the dwarf youpon holly to make tea?

  • @michaelyahuwah569
    @michaelyahuwah569 8 років тому

    great video.. may i ask when you said not to take leaves with berries ..was that just the berries we don't want or the leaves that are on the same branch as the berries as well thankyou

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +michael yahuwah Great question, Michael. It's just the berries that will cause you to vomit. I tend to avoid branches with berries, just to make sure that a berry doesn't accidentally get mixed in with the leaves. ....ken

    • @michaelyahuwah569
      @michaelyahuwah569 8 років тому

      KennethKramm thankyou

  • @gordonpage1
    @gordonpage1 8 років тому

    How much have we lost through progress, I wonder.

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Jiggy Jiggy Thumbs up, my friend. We really don't know how much knowledge / information we've lost.....

  • @karenlee9120
    @karenlee9120 8 років тому

    We have mint up hear in ny state I've done that

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +Karen Lee Awesome. ATB, Ken

    • @karenlee9120
      @karenlee9120 8 років тому

      When I find it I make mint tea right now it's gone getting cold

  • @KISSTHECLOWN1
    @KISSTHECLOWN1 8 років тому

    curious as to what causes these leaves to help with diabetes. any info on that?

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому +1

      +eric video guru I don't have additional information. This was documented many years ago; I don't know if current research has validated the findings. In any case, Yaupon tea is considered a healthy drink.

    • @KISSTHECLOWN1
      @KISSTHECLOWN1 8 років тому

      KennethKramm hey thank you for the reply and the great video. What region of the U.S. does this miracle herb grow. I'm in New Mexico.

  • @thatman4732
    @thatman4732 8 років тому

    Someone told me that yaupon leaves are toxic and the branched when you put them on the fire it that true

    • @KennethKramm
      @KennethKramm  8 років тому

      +That Man It was thought the leaves were toxic by many people until just a few years ago.. Thanks for watching and commenting. ....ken

  • @WisconsinEric
    @WisconsinEric 8 років тому

    The wood of the holly tree is said to has magic powers, capable of putting folks under spells and hypnotizing them. Even Harry Potter's wand was made of Holly Wood.
    So HollyWood is capable of hypnotizing people! How in your face is that?
    Just another day in the Matrix lol

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