Hearts and Minds: Alliance meeting plot flags, class & cut content
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The invlusion of the 'Hearts and Minds' mission was a pleasant surprise for me; I didn't expect any new relevant content till september.
Apologies for low fps, as always. With any luck, by september I might actually have an actual PC to improve video quality.
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It took a while because I was running yet another BH through the dlcs just to record this line: 06:20
No idea what's up with Gemini Prime at 03:31... feels like it doesn't belong in this part of the story at all.
I still don't have a double agent so once again I'm borrowing footage at 06:35, this time from Blade over here: • Swtor-Telling Theron S...
My republic interview comparison is already done; I'm doing imp side to see whether I should group them into one video. Either way, expect more very soon.
I always like that the agent talks like the Sith but the bounty hunter doesn't. It fits well.
Its the imperial doctrination vs merc for hire
Every time I see the Theron romance scenes, I can't help but think of the glitch that caused him to come back to life so he could break up with me for romancing LS Jaesa...only to return to the grave immediately after. :)
That is SO SWTOR! xD
I loved getting the Shara reference on my Republic Agent. Totally didn't see it coming, either.
Can I ask what choices you've made to get that agent? Have you sided with the Republic on Iokath? Have you finished the Shadow of Revan?
I'm happy to answer! Got a little carried away and wrote my character's whole story. Sorry!
Obviously, I made republic-friendly choices throughout the main story, becoming a double-agent for Ardun Kothe at the end.
I don't think any of the choices made during Makeb or Revan matter, but I did help the former Minister of Intelligence save Shara and try to have her loyalty programming removed (this fails, as is made apparent my her actions later). I received a holocall from Ardun at the end of that x-pack.
It is this point that I head-cannon my agent's revealing his choices to the rest of the squad, as they are more loyal to the Agent than any faction at this point. The Republic and Empire have a tentative truce, which was the goal of going undercover in the first place. He also tells his squad the truth, and commits his romance to Raina Temple, with Shara (his true love) clearly no longer being a viable option. (I also head-cannon that Raina didn't actually kill her dad, she was just afraid to tell the agent the truth, and uses Imperial loyalty as a facade and defense mechanism).
During KOTFE/KOTET, my Republic allegiance was never mentioned. For RP purposes though, I saved the Republic Senator and Zakuulan idol, letting Admiral Ranken die, saying "we need to win the trust of our enemies, as the Imperials already trust us." This has no bearing on the story, but I thought it was a smart play worth mentioning.
I did side with the Republic on Iokath, which was honestly a tough choice, choosing between the Republic's control of a super-weapon and maintaining my cover. But my (meta) conclusion was that Bioware intended the choice to be a more basic "who will you support going forward," not really considering deep-cover allegiances.
It looks like I was correct in that assessment, as it seems only Republic Agents who helped the Republic on Iokath get to face Shara on Nathema. This seen was heartbreaking as it is pretty clear any attempt made by the Minister and myself to free her has utterly failed. I was sad there was no way to save her, but I understand they had to write her out of the story somehow. A tender goodbye/death scene would have been nice, though.
When asked to finally commit again to a faction again before Ossus, I was surprised I would be going back undercover to support the Republic, as I assumed my actions on Iokath blew that cover wide open. But then I realized that outside of the Alliance itself, Jace Malcom, and the (now dead) Order of Zildrog, not many people really know for sure what happened. A cover story could easily be developed about Iokath by stretching the truth, such as: "Iokath radiation lead to complete loss of communication and friendly fire between the Alliance and the Empire. Empress Acina attempted to use a super-weapon to defeat Republic forces, not knowing it would kill everyone on the planet. Alliance forced had no choice but to work with the Republic to shut down the weapon, but were unable to stop her from activation, which lead to her death at the hands of the Machine Gods. We regret the loss of imperial life, but the Machine GOD threat has been eliminated."
I thought the scene on Nathema would be the end of the line for the Agent's vanilla story references, so Theron mentioning my being a double-agent the whole time really surprised me. I guess this means I can still hold on to hope that Ardun Kothe may be brought up at some point. He really should have taken the place of Jonas Balkar for Republic agents, but oh well.
I hope you enjoyed the read!
@@KoPT01 I did but I still don't know what kriffed up my double agent identity. The immediate offender is me choosing the empire on Iokath but I wonder whether I would be a double agent if I skipped SoR again :/
I honestly have no idea. There are no choices in SoR that would impact an Agent's status, but I guess it's possible there are flags programmed in that break something if skipped.
Good to see you post again, I love these videos :) thought there had to be some Koth romance content with this update but I couldn’t find any videos of it anywhere.
No Koth romancers out there? Geez, that's harsh :/
@@Roksik nope lol
@@TheCommando626 That's so sad :(
@xmeany he's a nice guy. So much better than Doc for my Knight.
@xmeany Much better than most alerts. Kaliyo and Aric were probably the best companion returns.
your channel is gold keep up the good work
Trying to! ^__^ I'm taking steps towards learning to datamine subtitles (helpful for conteztualizing cut content), and maybe I'll get a stationary PC, cause the fps is killing me :(
yay! I was waiting for this!
Thank you! ^__^
Bruh Your an absolute legend
=^____^=
First time I ever seen a koth romance
I'm excited for 6.0, but also for if you get the time to go back and cover the shadows of revan ones too. (I especially like the agent options when lana gets promoted to sith intelligence)
I do have the toons to cover that material, yes. But 6.0 comes first and that... oh boy, it's a lot.
I like how someone in the comments once used the words "human cigarette" to describe your bounty hunters. Because it's really, really accurate hahaha
I thought they meant the voices, no? It would apply to anyone's bounty hunters then :)
@@Roksik I can't say for sure. But to me it's more their whole person. Looks, voice, attitude :P
Acina cosplayer? Your profile picture gives an impression of it
I am one! Ran into a bunch of SWTOR cosplayers during a con, we decided to have a photoshoot some time later (I had a custome Zakuulan-inspired costume at the time). So I looked around, saw that every other relevant female character was already taken and decided, hell, why not Acina then? A lot of care went into her costume's design, and she is rather interesting and important for the story.
Roksik, no governor of Taris? Hehehe
@@dar-nakkallig she's not someone would love to be though ^__^"" And her outfit isn't all that interesting or pretty. And the makeup!! That's why i would never want to cosplay, say, Malora.
Roksik, also saw the photos of your Acina cosplay and it looks wonderful.
@@dar-nakkallig thank you! :D I'm not too happy with the armor though so I'll be redoing it all over. Damn perfectionism xD
You have worked your magic as always. Are You sure you're not a jedi?
All my costumes are those of sith D:
@@Roksik sith then whatever my point still stands
All your characters have cool armor and good-looking faces.
Thank you! I wouldn't say all of them are supposed to be pretty but I'm glad they are aesthetically pleasing!
Nice vid Roksik, good to hear from Koth again. I missed it, did he ever react to the Gravestone's destruction?
Not to my knowledge, no.
@@Roksik Bummer.
That cut line about GEMINI Prime. Do you think they were originally planning on having her replace SCORPIO in the companion pool, similar to how Ak’Ghal could replace Khem for SIs who sided with Zash?
Geez even if you let him live Koth will STILL bolt the second he doesn't get his way.
What a brat.
I think it depends. If the commander and him have the same values and not many friction points, I think he has the potentiel to become a fiercly loyal ally. It's not like the allies that are loyal by default are always happy either... I mean, look how Theron reacts if you let the Imps bombard Corellia in Onslaught...
I think Theron would quit if you are a Dark Imperial siding with the Imperials and arent romancing him.
How can you do Aygo dirty like that
It's a thought experiment? To see whether killing and driving away everyone at every opportunity will come back to bite my warrior in the ass.
there is one thing I found unusual, the traitor in the republic you chose was a strange choice. both a career criminal and an alien not strong in the force...they wouldn't be nice to her
Maybe, but the imps do work with such people if they stand to gain something from it, aka the mandalorians, the chiss, even BH. Besides, the Republic is never nice to smugglers anyway; betraying it on other classes makes even less sense: the Jedi would know that the sith are full if shit, and troopers have Elara to show them that the empire's military isn't any more efficient than the Republic's.
@@Roksik mandalorians and the chiss aren't exactly the best measuring stick, neither are fully in the empire and when they're done with their services they sever ties and aren't really hesitant to throw them under the bus
as for the other classes not really, Jedi are always struggling against the dark side and Trooper class have seen how fickle the senate is not to mention they've seen how they're viewed with Jorgan's personal mission series (the dead eyes were viewed as expendable)
I feel how the republic had behaved during the Zakuul war would show any class how corrupt the republic had become. besides during the Corso mission set the smuggler has some choice opinions of the empire if you're any class other than human/cyborg which makes it even less likely that they'd join
@@aaron75fy I still don't think that the Jedi and the trooper are more likely to switch sides. The smuggler is a already an outsider who isn't very well integrated and will stay independent regardless of who is currently their contractor. The other 3 will have to cooperate with the sith/the military much more closely, and the imps' flaws would be much more glaring. The smuggler wouldn't care about the ideology as much.
@@Roksik as I said given what the Smuggler said to Corso it isn't that likely despite being an outsider, every problem he/she had with the republic was due to imperial infiltrators. I doubt that he/she would trust them after
history has shown that Jedi do turn to the dark side (case in point Revan) so it's not out of the realms of possibility that a Jedi would switch especially if they see inaction as tolerance for evil
as for Trooper I can see that class as one to switch side since as I just mentioned he/she would have seen corruption in the senate, the incident that caused Tavis to abandon the republic after viewing the incident that the senate highlighted in the inquiry as a betrayal and then there was Saresh' actions
as you have pointed out in your rebuttal the Smuggler is the odd one out being not fully affiliated with the republic and as such don't see any reason to believe that they're as bad as the other classes might
How exactly do you trigger the Paxton line? I have him on two characters, but in neither case the line got triggered.
You don't trigger it, Aego either says the line or he doesn't. I've noticed before that 'click item to recruit' companions are very buggy. I never got letters from my sith/jedi promotional characters (Ranos and the other one) after Ossus on most my toons. Their presence counted only for those that didn't use the item. I didn't have any problems with Paxton so far though.
Weird, because I recruited Paxton the regular way, I never used the holocommunicator to recruit him ahead of time.
@@BTDZero More bugs! Great :P
More features!
What’s the gear that u have on ur pure blood sith I love that combo
The pure blood one with the pony tail
@@yuminmartin3589 it's a retired set from the Shadow of Revan era, it can't even be crafted nowadays. It has been sorta rereleased as the Ardent Oracle set, but it has the hood on :(
Who in their right mind actually romanced Koth?
People who only had two disaster men for other options (aka Knights with Theron and Koth)? I mean, I can understand the kind of issues people have with Corso, but I really don't see what's the problem with Koth.
Roksik I appreciate you doing it so we could see what happens, but I personally think he’s just a bad character
I just can't understand, i clearly remember that i have killed Koth on 2 of my characters, but he still appears, how do i get red of this bastard? xD
The quest must be bugged. It has happened to Arcann before.
yeah, i didn't kill him on my particularly evil inquisitor but he got kicked out of the alliance. still showed up tho! was pleasantly surprised but pretty sure it's a glitch ;)
@@NaruSaku13ShikaTema do you mean Theron? I don't think it's possible to kick Arcann out...