Dead By Daylight Killer Tierlist By TMM

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  • Опубліковано 5 лют 2025

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  • @clarityreunited
    @clarityreunited 14 днів тому +45

    so glad this channel is back

    • @DeadbyMasku
      @DeadbyMasku  14 днів тому +24

      Hopefully you'll like the content :)

  • @DarkSnake78990
    @DarkSnake78990 14 днів тому +31

    Seeing TMM on DBD again was not on my 2025 bingo list but I'm happy

  • @whyareyoureadingthislookaw8319
    @whyareyoureadingthislookaw8319 14 днів тому +10

    Damn Otz sounds weird in this video maybe it's the new mic.

  • @HoDoBoDo
    @HoDoBoDo 14 днів тому +21

    The Nurse Segment is almost 7 minutes. That's how quick a Nurse game ends. Maybe faster lmao.

  • @lingling4891
    @lingling4891 6 днів тому

    Fantastic analysis, I agree with just about every point you made. I really love that you do dbd content.

  • @MatiasGonzalezCataldo
    @MatiasGonzalezCataldo 14 днів тому +29

    your dbd content is godtier

  • @killerbee8121
    @killerbee8121 14 днів тому +15

    yes tmm I've been waiting so long for you to post this ty so much. Plz return to this channel and start making more dbd content plz

  • @ultissg7138
    @ultissg7138 14 днів тому +11

    110% is 4.4m/s. 115% is 4.6m/s. I'm glad you're back. Good to know this channel is not dead.

  • @manthagaming2684
    @manthagaming2684 21 годину тому

    "Hes so dumb i cant even" go me dying

  • @Mad_Profundis
    @Mad_Profundis 9 днів тому +1

    Regarding 'putting 100 hours on nurse' - when I first started playing dbd in 2017, 10 hours of playing as nurse was enough for me to win 9/10 matches, it's not complicated at all

  • @jeetkundough6224
    @jeetkundough6224 14 днів тому +7

    Finally, the Rock has come back too... Oh wait, that's Lil Majin.
    Finally, TMM has Tiphou to help out this channel and upload new vids. Thanks! Maku

    • @DeadbyMasku
      @DeadbyMasku  13 днів тому +3

      Tysm my friend, hope you'll like the future content🫶

  • @alecorn5200
    @alecorn5200 14 днів тому +5

    Honestly the Wesker placement reminds me of one of the Japanese tier list where they placed Wesker higher than normal. Consistency is everything in any game.

  • @HybridChillin
    @HybridChillin 14 днів тому +8

    I almost thought you were a Tekken content creator bro, welcome back to dbd channel

  • @RJxHunterz
    @RJxHunterz 10 днів тому +1

    I dunno what it is but I l9ve when you do tier lists of anything 😁

  • @damianolszewski1212
    @damianolszewski1212 8 днів тому

    Love the content keep up with dbd vids mate :D

  • @1991jj
    @1991jj 12 днів тому

    As a diehard Tekken player who learned to play Tekken through your videos, I couldn't be more happy that you are finally taking a serious shot at DBD content 🤝 Hope this channel blows up 🔥

  • @Zendab
    @Zendab 11 днів тому

    Wtf Tmm on dbd content feels like a crazy crossover

  • @rubenhero436
    @rubenhero436 14 днів тому +2

    Awesome video as always tmm, good luck with this channel!

  • @ChiharuChikanari
    @ChiharuChikanari 8 днів тому +1

    nurse is pure muscle memory it's almost brain off gameplay (like 95% brain off) I used to main her back when the game was new and survivors were so op the only viable killers were billy and nurse

  • @Koujin4
    @Koujin4 14 днів тому +5

    Is it weird that I enjoyed this video more than 99% of all dbd youtubers put together?

  • @DriedCherryBlossom
    @DriedCherryBlossom 10 днів тому +1

    iron will only counters baby spirits. survivors breathe.

  • @MightyJabroni
    @MightyJabroni 13 днів тому +5

    Very good takes in the video. And I want to just digitally high five you for spitting some truths here.
    Nurse being "oh so difficult to play" is the biggest ongoing cope that this community keeps harping on about, in order to justify it's Stockholm Syndrome, when it comes to this stupidly busted killer. She is unique (for all the wrong reasons), but that doesn't mean hard - much less if you consider the flood of juice that you get for comparatively little squeeze. And your comparison with the Trapper was absolutely on point: Any mechanical intricacies matter very little, when conquering them grants you a killer, who has zero tactical intricacies.
    Anybody, who ever went against a good enough Nurse, that just brings 4 aura reading perks, knows that this is the gospel truth. Because at that point, any survivor is just reduced to a walking finger excercise for someone else. She is broken! Same goes for Victor (Twins). I just hate killers versus whom you have no agency against as survivors, when your input is trivialized to the point, that you might as well stand still and do nothing.

    • @DeadbyMasku
      @DeadbyMasku  13 днів тому +4

      I'm glad that some people share the same opinion as mine, and about Twins, I'd say that at least there is "some" counterplay, you just gotta make sure that the team stays healthy like I mentioned in the video... It's already more fun to go up against in my opinion:))

  • @noh6941
    @noh6941 13 днів тому

    before i ever knew you played dbd all I could think was you remind me of otzdarva, and now that I’ve found this channel, I think you two may be the same person

  • @jimmyv5494
    @jimmyv5494 14 днів тому +1

    YOOO new content!! I was sad when I looked for this channel a few weeks ago and there was no new vids. Glad to see I just had to be patient :)

  • @morganjacob1195
    @morganjacob1195 13 днів тому +1

    Flashlights on the traps has been gone for two years.

  • @capokey
    @capokey 14 днів тому +4

    Bro said what many are afraid to do

  • @Angeldemonhybrid172
    @Angeldemonhybrid172 14 днів тому +1

    Would love to see dbd or even just more variety content from you, keep it up!

  • @tomasmonteverdeviii9532
    @tomasmonteverdeviii9532 14 днів тому +3

    WE NEED MORE DBD CONTENT FROM TMM

  • @Mercsin
    @Mercsin 14 днів тому +4

    TMM collab with other DBD creators when

  • @bloodfest8510
    @bloodfest8510 14 днів тому +2

    "her camp is so nutty" me who got insidious in chaos shuffle yestereday on huntress: "nuh uh, i dont know what your talking about👀"

    • @DeadbyMasku
      @DeadbyMasku  13 днів тому +1

      Insidious... A.K.A the BEST PERK in the game🤫😂

  • @Melanatedhatervibez
    @Melanatedhatervibez 12 днів тому

    Didnt hear anything about Drac. Needs some time stamps but overall great vid.
    Edit: i was firmly corrected false alarm. Timestamps in the description

    • @DeadbyMasku
      @DeadbyMasku  12 днів тому +2

      @@Melanatedhatervibez There is timestamps no? You guys can't see them?

    • @Melanatedhatervibez
      @Melanatedhatervibez 12 днів тому

      Ahhh y'know what. Im so used to actually being able to interact with them on the actual vid itself. But I see the time-stamps in the description once I unfold it. My apologies​@@DeadbyMasku

  • @mohamedtanakim5901
    @mohamedtanakim5901 9 днів тому

    Best DBD content creator masku

  • @1991jj
    @1991jj 12 днів тому

    Otzdarva got his work cut out for him. TMM can easily become a top 5 DBD content creator

  • @ClamTheClammy
    @ClamTheClammy 7 днів тому +2

    Dbd sexiest killers tierlist when?

  • @Fecu
    @Fecu 14 днів тому +1

    night shroud is the name of ghostface's power lel

  • @snuzzy4984
    @snuzzy4984 14 днів тому +1

    Soooo pumped to see lord tmm back on the dead by masku grind

  • @Sio2deep
    @Sio2deep 14 днів тому +1

    Never expected Tmm to post a dbd video again but glad he did 🙌🙌

  • @Blightbetter478
    @Blightbetter478 7 днів тому +1

    If u trink blight is broken ur just to bad to counter him. SKILL ISSUE

    • @DeadbyMasku
      @DeadbyMasku  7 днів тому +1

      right, it must be skill issue.

  • @rettroo__
    @rettroo__ 14 днів тому +7

    Maku masku bagoosh eish

  • @laskodramo
    @laskodramo 14 днів тому +3

    Calling Skull Merchant "annoying" after she got gutted and her power does almost nothing now is a weird flex for sure

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому

      Her power can be pretty much ignored, worse traps than trapper.

  • @LastManDead
    @LastManDead 6 днів тому

    I've never played dbd and I don't understand many things. I'll assume that all these unfair unbalanced killers are bought with real money? It seems to me that super strong broken killers that require almost no skill to win 9 out of 10 games are simply selling the game or holding the audience. Maybe I don't understand.
    So I'll assume that killers like the nurse or the blight will never be fixed, I mean, a lot of players who like easy wins will just quit the game.
    P.S. my god this handsome young man with a mustache

  • @SaxophoneGenie
    @SaxophoneGenie 14 днів тому +1

    Hag should be way higher up imo. Once she gets her traps up it snowballs fast, just saying

    • @VienerSchnitzel69
      @VienerSchnitzel69 13 днів тому

      Vs good survivors they’ll just avoid basement like the plague and it can be really difficult to snowball w/o basement. They also will callout your traps and trigger/wipe them when it’s very inconvenient such as when you are holding a survivor or about to get a down. She’s also 4.4 so w/o very good trap placement you will very rarely be getting downs.

    • @iwntd7628
      @iwntd7628 13 днів тому

      @@SaxophoneGenie the bad thing about her traps is that there are multiple ways to counter them

  • @Crgdssk96
    @Crgdssk96 14 днів тому +2

    he’s baaackkk !!!

  • @windindi2834
    @windindi2834 14 днів тому

    Absolutely love Dracula

  • @mak7selli850
    @mak7selli850 14 днів тому +1

    Agree with wesker he can be predicted and struggles with strong teams and maps now suck with his collision but he’s fun just needs a small tweak

  • @nopaydue01
    @nopaydue01 14 днів тому +1

    This tier list makes me SHUDDER lmao respect tho

  • @Mann_Person
    @Mann_Person 12 днів тому

    Wraith is *consistently decent* at best me thinks

  • @EsuEsuEsuuu
    @EsuEsuEsuuu 14 днів тому +3

    the fact that this Tierlist aint even that bad got me crying 😭😭😭😭😭😭 I'd throw Chucky up to A and Hag High B

    • @darkspire6710
      @darkspire6710 14 днів тому +2

      Unfortunately hag is just a knowledge check. She is S tier against survs that don't know how she works and D tier at best against survs that do. You can bait her traps super easily, and if she ever picks up, you can run destroy her web super easily. That, and all the nerfs to defensive play around 3 and 4 gens have effectively knee-capped her playability in high elo lobbies.

    • @EsuEsuEsuuu
      @EsuEsuEsuuu 14 днів тому

      @darkspire6710 yea but I feel like she's better than a few of these killers in here... also I'm just now looking at it and Clown is def low b or high c and vecna is def higher than a few of these killers... and throw Dredge down to C...

    • @lou7980
      @lou7980 14 днів тому +2

      I was expecting to laugh and hear some noob takes but of course tmm would know the meta stuff 😂😂

    • @darkspire6710
      @darkspire6710 14 днів тому +1

      ​@@EsuEsuEsuuu Clown isn't bad, he just takes a lot of experience to master. His looping is insane, because if you play him right, surveys can't loop him period. As far as Vecna goes, idk. He seems pretty good, if you manage his cds well, but I can't speak to his placement. Dredge is map dependent, making him inconsistent, but he's oppressive on his good maps and underwhelming on bad ones, B is a good place for him, imo.

    • @EsuEsuEsuuu
      @EsuEsuEsuuu 14 днів тому

      @darkspire6710 there's only 2 maps that are good for Dredge... and for Clown I'd say he is also map/rng dependant as well, but yes, he makes you insta drop pallets so towards endgame it'll be ass to play against him so actually I think B is fine for clown yea... for Vecna managing CD's is key but when they buffed his fly it actually made him insane ngl 😭😭😭

  • @The_WIll_OF_D99
    @The_WIll_OF_D99 11 днів тому

    still cant agree with Myers being lower than Ghost Face with all the changes he got he is just a better GF who cant get cheated out of his power because of bad game design. he can lose his power in dumb ways and if the Myers wants you can use add-ons that remove survivors from the game. GF cant do that. His leaning is a bit buggy as well. I love Ghost face but Myers is better and feels better to play imo.

  • @WhiskerGeneral
    @WhiskerGeneral 14 днів тому

    holy very sick intro, finally it is back!

  • @itssmoothk9113
    @itssmoothk9113 13 днів тому

    i never knew you played dbd

  • @MagicKk7
    @MagicKk7 14 днів тому +1

    Subscribing because it's TMM

  • @morganjacob1195
    @morganjacob1195 13 днів тому +1

    Knight is the easiest and lamest killer in the game. He is strong

  • @Merlijn-l7k
    @Merlijn-l7k 13 днів тому

    Nurse is already nerfed into the ground, if you compare how she was at her at launch

    • @JamesMacdonald-iu3gp
      @JamesMacdonald-iu3gp 13 днів тому +4

      And she’s still broken

    • @MightyJabroni
      @MightyJabroni 13 днів тому +7

      She ignores virtually every aspect of level design. And that, in and off itself, will never be anything close to being "nerfed into the ground".

  • @Crgdssk96
    @Crgdssk96 14 днів тому +2

    Fucking love your DBD content

  • @eckogeckoo
    @eckogeckoo 10 днів тому

    Pinhead is the most out of place killer on this list.

  • @MaxingThePayne
    @MaxingThePayne 14 днів тому

    Adrian, I remember your last statement about DbD and I'm eager to hear what convinced you to come back and continue?

  • @The_WIll_OF_D99
    @The_WIll_OF_D99 14 днів тому

    Hell yeah a DBD video on this!!!

  • @ihbupontyne
    @ihbupontyne 13 днів тому

    I thought you said you stopped playing in a tekken video at some point? Or maybe you were just joking. I play this game off and on a lot as it gets boring quite quickly for me

  • @corvoyami3192
    @corvoyami3192 14 днів тому

    Wait did he tilt off fighting games ?

  • @Colarbuew3974
    @Colarbuew3974 10 днів тому

    Singularity Top 1 Then Nurse

  • @matchamarcellan8683
    @matchamarcellan8683 14 днів тому

    this guy has a DBD channel?

  • @donkeykong6817
    @donkeykong6817 14 днів тому +1

    We're so back

  • @tomisvk8
    @tomisvk8 13 днів тому

    was this tier list made by survivor main?

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому +4

      He plays both

  • @basednappa
    @basednappa 14 днів тому

    Not even watched it yet, if I don't see Artist in at least high A-tier, baby tierlister

  • @TheCray98
    @TheCray98 14 днів тому

    looool wtf, mainman plays dbd. what a trip, I just started playing a week ago

  • @manicstatic370
    @manicstatic370 12 днів тому

    Wraith has no counter loop so he’s only good against non pros

    • @MightyJabroni
      @MightyJabroni 11 днів тому

      So what? You just brute force stronger pallets and then capitalize of the resulting dead zones, which is very easy with a killer, who has that kind of mobility. I don't even main Wraith, but playing him feels almost always super easy. Especially if you run any of the bell addons, that obscure his approach.

    • @manicstatic370
      @manicstatic370 11 днів тому

      @ those aren’t good players if they drop early

  • @sparx1599
    @sparx1599 8 днів тому

    Drac is not stronger than Billy and spirit and certainly not in the same tier as nurse and blight lol

  • @solomongumball1435
    @solomongumball1435 14 днів тому +1

    What is tmm?

  • @brentthompson1607
    @brentthompson1607 14 днів тому

    I appreciate you for stating the truth on the houndmaster being strong. She was only "weak" because of a few bugs she had that have since been patched. But many top creators are still downplaying her like crazy.

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому

      💀The fact that Houndmaster and Deathslinger exist in the same game is funny.
      Same for Pyramid Head and Dracula, wtf is Dracula.... How come dracula players pretend he is balanced is beyond me.

  • @mrt5069
    @mrt5069 13 днів тому

    Jeez slow down on the cuts, editor, it's not a TikTok video, u ve got plenty of b-roll I'm sure, just use it😊

  • @buraaqwasti7729
    @buraaqwasti7729 14 днів тому

    Great video and as a 5k hour trickster in my humble unbiased opinion he is right below huntress at the very worst below wraith and above wesker bottom of A or top B. He also has free wins cuz a lot of survivors will just DC and even without main event if you’re at a good loop he gets downs faster then nurse it’s it’s effectively an insta down. All they need to do to make him balanced is give him a cooldown animation after he takes a health state

    • @MightyJabroni
      @MightyJabroni 13 днів тому

      People, who specialize on certain killers, will always rate them higher. Unless they play S-tier stuff to begin with.

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому

      He gets messed up by maps as bad as Wesker does, if you give cooldown to his knives with him at 8 knives I'd rather just M1 only most of the time with the haste addon. You would be surprised at how many times the "free hit" you got because you were close to them with LoS with knives would also be a free m1 if you weren't slowing yourself down throwing them, (and using M1 would let them make less distance with the speed boost).

    • @buraaqwasti7729
      @buraaqwasti7729 13 днів тому

      @ I should’ve said in my original message that the cooldown would only be balanced if they changed his knives back from 8 to 6

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому

      ​@@buraaqwasti7729 Well if the devs push through with the revert, I think he might be more fun to play as and against but we will have to wait and see.

  • @XamusTV
    @XamusTV 10 днів тому

    Im sorry bro love your tekken stuff but you did not cook with thisone😂

  • @Sketchyyo
    @Sketchyyo 14 днів тому

    I was so confused I was like I def watched this guy play tekken.

  • @saul6145
    @saul6145 12 днів тому

    This dude is so clueless on so many things, what’s the point of ranking these characters if you mess up most of the stats? Like, it really isn’t that hard, you can go on dbd wiki and not just straight up pull numbers out of your ass.

  • @zurcarak
    @zurcarak 14 днів тому

    tierlist for channel growth op S tier

  • @OrNah.
    @OrNah. 14 днів тому

    he has a dbd account? LETS GOOO

  • @gior702
    @gior702 7 днів тому

    chopped ahh tierlist

  • @iwntd7628
    @iwntd7628 14 днів тому

    wraith just has meh chase ability so you find yourself playing hit n run with sloppy or just dropping chases a lot for map pressure. You overcommit you lose.
    Also from my experience (a lot of it) on billy and blight. If you are really good at zoning and playing tiles billy can be stronger than blight. (Blight will always be funnier)

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому

      he gets so many free hits because of his power where you're basically forced to sit on top of a pallet and drop it or else he will either bodyblock or you won't make it in time that it's insufferable.

    • @iwntd7628
      @iwntd7628 13 днів тому

      @ you can counter his ability by fast vaulting then quick vaulting not allowing him to break the pallet in his stealth mode.
      Also if you utilise checkspots EVEN if he leaves his stealth you can avoid getting hit.

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому

      ​@@iwntd7628 so what? you pre-drop the pallet and keep vaulting so he doesn't break it, sure, but you still had to get off gens early to get into that position, if you wait until he gets to you he can bodyblock.
      If you're "out of position"(AKA not hugging a window or pallet) he WILL get you , hit you with sloppy+thanatophobia, run away to hit someone else, then come back to you again for the second free hit, 0 chase, especially with them running play with your food.
      You either stop working on gens all the time or you will eventually give him free hits and that is all the good wraiths do other than tunneling. The time it takes for him to uncloak is not enough to get off a gen and drop a pallet in time, same if you wait to hear his cloaked sounds.
      I used to enjoy fighting wraiths when I was a new player and they would uncloak, get the free hit and then keep chasing me, but after so many hours I haven't seen a wraith playing like this in a good while.

  • @Majorian476
    @Majorian476 14 днів тому

    I’m one of the few people that agree that Wesker isn’t that great, but Oni on S tier is crazy to me

  • @DaToby
    @DaToby 13 днів тому

    You're explaining the S-tier killers & Nurse as if it's a bad thing. Do u know how many hours u have to put in Blight to play him even on a proper level. Nurse is indeed broken, but killers as Blight and Billy are only S if played well. In my opinion a killer as Blight is perfectly crafted. You don't stand a chance at the beginning, but once you put the effort in, u're rewarded by winning a lot.
    Valid tier list though.

    • @Sakaca
      @Sakaca 13 днів тому +6

      You are straight.

    • @DaToby
      @DaToby 10 днів тому

      Idk what u mean by that tbh😂, but thx

    • @שגיאאדרי-ו4צ
      @שגיאאדרי-ו4צ 7 днів тому

      U need about 20 hours on blight and 10 on nurse

  • @brentthompson1607
    @brentthompson1607 14 днів тому

    Chucky and the doctor are top tier in my opinion. The hag is also top tier, not as much as them.

    • @MightyJabroni
      @MightyJabroni 13 днів тому

      Hag strongly benefits from people being cluless about how to play against her. And Doctor, while arguably the best "M1 killer" (behind Wraith), lacks map mobility and lethality. Simply holding W against him (which his weaponized terror radius actually encourages) can waste so much of his time. No killer, against whom holding W and just running a marathon is a viable counter, will EVER be top tier. It is too basic of a tactic, that many not so good survivors, who don't trust themselves in chase, do almost by accident.
      Also, good survivors, who understand the timing aspect of his shocks (which is phoned in by an audio que) and know, that a Doctor cannot afford to spam his shock, can extend loops quite a bit (especially as long as the pallet is still up).

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому

      Chucky is good but not top tier, I have seen a lot of people throwing games with him to lower his kill rate and it's kinda funny. (No, not playing poorly, literally a massive rise of friendly Chucky).
      With that being said I think he is a bit harder than people give credit for.

  • @JamesMacdonald-iu3gp
    @JamesMacdonald-iu3gp 13 днів тому

    Pinhead is miles better than wraith, chase power is better on top of having a passive that does an insane amount without even doing anything.
    All the killers in that tiers chase ability is just so much better than wraiths
    Even xenomorph is better imo, similar map traversal abilities, but much better chase ability

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому

      Massive downplay, none of these get as many free hits as hit and run wraith gets, with mobility to back up the hit and run playstyle. I think Pinhead is better, but miles better nah.

    • @JamesMacdonald-iu3gp
      @JamesMacdonald-iu3gp 13 днів тому

      @ I mean you can just watch high level gameplay and I promise you wraith will look terrible compared to every other killer in that tier. They will never let you catch them injured in the open and you will always have to get very strong outplays on loops. Hit and run is the best tactic yeah, but then you are just a better legion imo. Eventually, if the survivors are any good you will have to get outplays on loops and his ability to do that is no where near what the people in his tier are
      The only thing he has going for him is he doesn’t have any uniquely bad maps and how easy he is mechanically which I think skews people’s perception since they probably just aren’t as good with the better killers.

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому

      @@JamesMacdonald-iu3gp Japan puts him as top 5 killers, with the sweatiest survivors that are used to tunneling and camping playing on that region.
      If you're having to outplay people in loops you're probably doing something wrong, you cannot get off a gen to a loop/pallet quick enough to avoid the free hits. Don't bother chasing people on strong loops and just patrol gens with a regression hit and run build and you will do miles better.
      Legion is good at getting injuries, but is horrible at getting downs, because Legion has a terror radius you can pre-run out of the generator if he is not in a frenzy anymore to force him to outplay you in the loop. No such thing vs wraith.
      Also you can bodyblock a teammate during frenzy to deny frenzy value, Legion is MUCH worse than Wraith, it's not even comparable.

  • @Irishscarecrow
    @Irishscarecrow 14 днів тому

    Dark lord ain't stronger then the lich

    • @szikułaga
      @szikułaga 14 днів тому +2

      Ofc he is. Thats not even comparable. Better map mobility, better anti loop, can damage on every pallet/window

    • @nayd5043
      @nayd5043 13 днів тому +3

      LMAO, dracula is completely ridiculous. How in the world a killer with 0 cooldown that is Pyramid Head, Spirit(that teleports to windows) and Wesker all in one is weaker than Mr. 40 second cooldown Vecna?

    • @Irishscarecrow
      @Irishscarecrow 13 днів тому

      @@szikułaga definitely not better

    • @Irishscarecrow
      @Irishscarecrow 13 днів тому

      @@nayd5043 they're one trick ponies vecna has so much in his kit

    • @Irishscarecrow
      @Irishscarecrow 13 днів тому

      @@szikułaga bro what are you talking about hellfire is just as bad and easy to avoid as the skulls from victim Map mobility vec can fly 😂 pallets what are pallets bro you'll be lucky to get one pallet drop vs a good vec before you go down 👎 everything you said vec can do