The Story Of The Andrea Doria
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Perhaps one of the most beautiful vessels of her time, the Andrea Doria was a symbol of pride for Italy. A sleek and stylish 1950's liner fitted with the most luxurious appointments and beloved by many who sailed on her. However just 3 years into making transatlantic crossings, one fateful night would end in catastrophe, ultimately sinking her. But how did it happen? This is the story of the Andrea Doria.
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If you do not have the competence avoid making videos full of inaccuracies. First, numerous studies and research have been done to show that the Andrea Doria has not made any mistakes. And that the faults are of the crew and the captain of the Stockholm. And Captain Calamai wanted to sink with the Andrea Doria. But it was the subordinates who forced Calamai to abandon the ship
@@Randomrblxroblox Can you read? Since I wrote it in my comment. So avoid making nonsense comments, since you’ve just made a fool of yourself
@@Randomrblxroblox And I told you that I wrote them in my first comment. So just read my first comment
@@giudicedredd9195 No you didnt, now please stop being a attention-seeking asshole.
My dad who is still living was a passenger on the Andrea Doria at the time of the sinking, along with my grandparents and my 2 uncles. They were emigrating from Italy to the US. Everything they owned went to the bottom of the Atlantic.
Sometimes the universe likes to give us the middle finger.
wow
Did your family get compensation from the company?
@@Robin-yj7gj $1500 from the Italian line
They kept the most valuable thing.
"The Captain was the last to leave the ship."
Everyone: **look at Schettino**
It was pretty funny to hear the Coast Guard rip him a new asshole though.
“Look Schettino, you may have saved yourself from the sea, I’m going to make sure you get in trouble. I am going to make you pay for this”
VADA A BORDO, CAZZO!
I'm the 150th like!
and after the Costa concordia sank, he said "we were the last to leave the ship"
Those where different times, these days it's every man for himself
idk why but youve made me obsessed with ship disaster stories ever since the costa concordia vid
3 yrs later edit: still obsessed but now also with planes
I am obsessed with plane crashes lol
@@samsunited4965 me too I always watch plane crash videos before I fly! Makes it more fun for me, as sick as that sounds! Lol
Fr it was the exact video haha
@@samsunited4965 where do you see those?
SAME LOL 😂
1912: "My dear, I bought tickets for us for the maiden voyage of the Titanic for our anniversary." 1915: "Mom, relax, the Titanic was once in a lifetime. The Lusitania won't hit any icebergs and dad would want you to enjoy the cruise." 1956: "My dearest grandchildren, Thank you for this wonderful cruise. I was scared to board at first, but the Andrea Doria is the safest cruise liner there is. "It's getting a bit foggy outside, so I'm going to bed."
Is this about that lady who survived 3 ship wrecks ? I am bad at remember name.
@@anastasiaphan4202 It was Violet Jessop, but she survived all Olympic class sinkings / crash. I think this is just a random comment.
There was also a British Man named Arthur John priest who survived the Titanic, Britannic, many WW2 and other passenger ships before passing away of pneumonia in his bed
@@jamesflynn8448 both red dead protagonists in one name lol
@@anastasiaphan4202 Wasn't that a "Twilight Zone" story?
I was born on the Andrea Doria!!!! So, I loved your video! There were 6 Doria babies born on the Andre Doria during her lifetime. I was born on March 20, 1954 along with a another baby. My name is Giuseppina Andreina Falasca and I hope to get a model of the Andrea Doria. Thank you for your video!
I assume your parents were emigrating?
@@Dulcimertunes Yes, my father immigrated first and was waiting for my mother in New York. He had no clue that his wife had a baby and that he was a new father. He waited and waited and she did not disembark so he asked a crew member and they replied that she had her baby. We stayed in NY for a week as he arranged a train trip back to our home in Akron, Ohio!
@@josephinedickey5580 hello, may I ask did you ever get the andrea doria model?
@@driax4297 Sorry, no. Maybe in the near future
Very interesting! Do you like boats?
The Captain was the last person to leave the Doria. Respect.
As it should be
Captain Pierro Calamai
Atleast he didn’t “Fall” into a lifeboat
He was so upset by the loss of the Andrea Doria, he retired to Genoa and never sailed again. So I've heard
@@MAFNaFCH ooo callin out captain Schettino💀
“This was going to be his last voyage”
O_O
“As he was going to be promoted”
oh-
How to stop ship sinking
1. Captain should never retire
2. Captain never get promoted
3.profit
Cpt Smith of the Titanic was also about to retire... I'm really startin' to pick up on these trends
😂😂😂
hmm sounds familiar
Same for the Edmund Fitzgerald captain mcsorley was going to retire at end of the season and we all know what happened to that ship
My grandmother's sister-in-law was on the Andrea Doria when she went down. She was coming over to attend her nephew's wedding. Sadly, she was one of the casualties. I believe she might have been killed in the collision. The wedding was a bit more solemn as everyone mourned her loss.
I just hope her and the others died peacefully, even though it was abrupt, they may now be free waiting for us above
What's her name
I’m so sorry for your loss. May she rest in peace
My mom was supposed to be on that ship on the voyage when it sank. But she decided to take another ship and leave Italy earlier. The day after she got back to NYC she saw the Andrea Doria sinking on TV.
Wow she lucky
Woah......
@@MC-es7oe Yep
You better be proud you have that kind if mom!
And that’s what you call “dodging a bullet”. But that’s crazy
“so this is the andrea doria anyway this other ship has a reinforced ice breaking bow” oh no ohhhh no i see where this is going
why do
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@@fart63 *p r e s e n c e* . And kids who just discovered "meme"
Disaster docs always be like that
"There were 10000 puppies on one ship and 10000kt of TNT on the other alone in the middle of the pacific ocean headed for eachother at 100000 knots"
no that was when he was talking about the Stockholm the smaller ship, mentioned at 4:38. if your gonna try and be funny at least make sure your factual.
@@siggybuttbrain7026 yeah thats what they were talking abt.. they said 'other ship' meaning the stockholm that crashed into the andrea doria
"Stockholm was one of the most reliable ships at sea"
Pretty damn reliable to sail for nearly another century
It reliably took out the competition.
@@endeavourist5287 😂😂
@@endeavourist5287 stop it lol
@@endeavourist5287 I can’t
It's like puttin a fox in the henhouse.
Back in 1956 one of my classmates in elementary school was on board the Andrea Doria. He and his sister and his mother all survived. We were watching the news on TV, and I saw him on the news. I exclaimed "Hey Tucker". We were relieved that they were safe and sound.
2:52
"11 Watertight Compartmens, enough lifeboats for everyone"
Titanic Surviors:"Hey, I've seen this one before!"
Titanic has a renault car and the andoria had a Chrysler vehicle a little ironic that both ships sank with a vehicle in it
The issue with the Titanic was that lifeboats were not expected to fend for themselves at sea with survivors aboard, The idea was that ships took long enough to sink that the lifeboats should be able to make multiple trips between the sinking ship and ships that come to its aid. The real issue with the Titanic was that ships were not required to have radio operators always on duty so it's distressed calls went unanswered even though there were several ships close enough to help.
Lol
@@jerrossclarito6119 I think that's the theme with many accidents, be it poor maintainance or bad decisions
@@kobra6660 Andrea Doria
One of the most interesting stories from the sinking was Linda Morgan’s. She was a 14 year old girl on the Andrea Doria, and by some miracle when the Stockholm bow crashed into the ship she was lifted from her bed on the AD and safely onto the crushed bow of the Stockholm. The crew found her later because she was calling out to her mother in Spanish, which was odd because it was a Swedish ship. Her husband was mayor of San Antonio, TX in the late 2000’s.
She was also the First Lady of San Antonio, TX
Wow I remember reading about this story in elementary school!
Wait so your telling me when they collided she just got picked up and swept away onto the now broken bow of the Stockholm
@@foxh.6652 yes, though not uninjured.
her mother died just a few years after the accident... on the anniversary of the accident.
Also her step-sister was killed instantly
It's nuts to think how bad this could have gone if other ships weren't near by.
It would have been a huge disaster. Probably around half of the people aboard would have died
@@BrightSunFilms So almost... Titanic scale ...
@@AaronShenghao maybe so 😭😭
If you read the story of the Titanic, other ships were nearby but didn’t respond to distress calls until it was too late to save passengers from the cold Atlantic waters.
@@calbob750 yeah but there is a difference between “nearby” and nearby😉.
I remember this well as my father was the port engineer at Pier 84 in NY where the Doria docked. I will never forget the phone call my dad got that fatal morning. It was the first time I ever saw my father cry. Capt. Calamai and my father were friends. Capt. Calamai was never the same. He always blamed himself for the loss of life and the loss of his ship.
Reportedly the captain's last words were, "Are all of the passengers off?" That's how a ship's master should behave!
@@gordonbergslien30 The captain lived on until 1972! Edit: sorry, I rushed to judgment. I see from Daniel Huffman's comment further down that those were indeed the captain's last words in 1972, 16 years after the sinking. A sad reflection on how extreme age and nearness of death can bring the reality of old memories to the fore.
Yes understand that indeed. She was a beautiful ship for her time. She did indeed have her problems in reference to her design. If not mistaken even on her sea trials she did not do well on heavy seas, which would have her listing beyond her actually design. She was a beautiful ship, pride of Italy, after the war. Its seems during her voyage back New York, her tanks were close to empty. Unfortunately they did compensate for that, in reference to ballast. Sure that she could have recovered, even though she did remain afloat, till next day 11 hours after the ill fated collision. Its unfortunate they were not able to save this beautiful vessel that was indeed a pride of Italy after ww2.
Can we just appreciate how the "Stockholm" sunk this ship and kept on going until 2020? Thats crazy to me
So the Stockholm had a long life
I wonder if they ever painted a little ship on her prow like fighters did in WW2? /s
Sees damage: “yeah...you can probably buff that out”
She was registered in the same port Doris was at some point
@@kingstar5494 still do
The biggest feud between Swedes and Italians not involving meatballs.
That and soccer games.
Man this comment I spit out my tea on my computer from laughing
omg
Hahahaha
You forgot Rallying.
"I'll go left and you go right- oh I mean my right."
The maritime rule for head-to-head collision avoidance is: Pass to Port (port side to port side) which is precisely what the Stockholm did by altering her course to starboard - all too late, perhaps because of a radar mis-interpretation.
The problem was that the AD had already turned the 'wrong way' - perhaps in the belief that the oncoming vessel was actually crossing the shipping lanes and NOT steaming straight towards her down the wrong channel, as the Stockholm was . . .
- there is also an error in the narration later in the clip that reverses the directions each ship turned.
The biggest feud between Swedes and Italians not involving meatballs.
A unique feuding if you will
My great uncle was on the first row boat to reach the Andrea Doria. He was on the SS Cape Ann that saved one hundred and twenty nine victims of the disaster, many of them were injuried. He told us that the hole in the ship was not that large and it was unbelievable that the ship sank. Joseph Rinkowski was his name and he received a metal for it.
Yay! A Captain who did his duty right! Captain Smith of the Titanic would be proud of him
Captain Smith ALSO 'did his duty right'.
Captain Smith of the R.M.S. Titanic did his duty right as he stayed aboard the ship and went down with the ship as it is common practice if a ship were to go down the captain would be the last to exit OR go down with the ship. get your facts straight before you comment
@@anthonyring7271 But he ignored 5 ice warnings from East-bound ships. Should have at least slowed his speed (as the 2nd officer advised).
@@genekelly8467 He didn’t ignore any though, there was one that never made it to the bridge but by then they had gotten so many it wouldn’t matter. Captain Smith had already changed course south to try to avoid the icebergs, and slowing down wasn’t seen as much of an option as few other liners did it and it would look bad for a captain to slow down a scheduled ship for something that was seen as “minor” as icebergs. I also highly doubt Lightoller of all people would suggest slowing down. His later career would prove he himself was a very aggressive naval officer (he attacked a fricken zeppelin with a torpedo boat and even in WW2 he personally took his own motor yacht to rescue British soldiers stranded in Dunkirk). His own accounts of the sinking also seem to suffer from a case of the “unreliable narrator”.
Daddy Cap. Smith woud be proud
I've known of the Andrea Doria and Stockholm for a very long time, but it blew my mind to know the Stockholm is STILL afloat. Thanks much for the new knowledge in your great video.
Bruh you are a legend, how tf did you manage this lol.
@@ashtonbrown4318 If you mean posting before it was published, Patrons get early access.
yes
Maybe not for much longer, I'm afraid. The cruise industry has been hit hard by COVID-19-induced travel restrictions, and selling a bunch of older ships for scrap.
That’s kind of cool, actually.
I got goosebumps from all the efforts from all those nearby ships. Also, one small thing to point out is that the captain is not a coward like those on the Oceanos or the Costa Concordia.
Unfortunately, Captain Calamai never accepted another command, and lived the rest of his life in sadness "as a man who has lost a son", according to his daughter. His last words, when he died in 1972, were reportedly, "Are the passengers saved?"
@@Daniel_Huffman I don't know if it's a survivor's guilt or a PTSD, but it's really traumatic either way.
@@Daniel_Huffman he didn't want to leave the ship, go down with her. he didn't sail again because in his mind the sea betrayed him
The Ile de France and others being able to quickly respond saved hundreds of lives. This disaster could have EASILY been 10x worse.
So did I! 😀
great to know I!'m not alone in this.
Also this is the second time I hear about this one, and it still gave me goose bumps.
You find an equally great video about this in youtube channel LemMino
My mother remembers the Stockholm arriving at port in NY and going to see it after her work shift ended. By the time the Stockholm arrived at port, people knew that the Andrea Doria had sunk and why, and my mother marveled that the Stockholm had suffered so little damage in the collision. Now I want her to tell me the story again. I never thought I would say that.
@berinde the Stockholm was a vessel, reinforced bow, since she sailed in the north Atlantic, at times the weather would change. Her bow was constructed to slice through ice flows, foyrds, during her travel in the north atlantic. The MS Stockholm, is still sailing, even though she has been refurbished, refitted, sailing under many countries regestires, she will still remain loved a pride of Sweden.
Stockholm: "We're okay. We're still sailing half a ship".
All the damage was above the waterline.
More like an 8th of a ship
Another happy docking
@@woodytaylor8451 same comment applies for you, you twat
OK this is funny
Can you imagine being in the correct shipping lane, not having a problem with your radar, being the first to make a move to get out of the way of a ship, not being the ship that tears into your hull, having more casualties, and overall having more problems in the accident.....yet being "officially" blamed for the accident. Makes me wonder how that other ship got away with it.
Exactly, stockholm turn to right side but they're the ONE who cruising on wrong side. They're the one who cause this
I think there was more at play in that decision than facts
@taxid3rmy So being 20 miles north of the correct shipping lane in an effort to save time and having your radar on the wrong settings are not violations of maritime law? They wouldn’t have had to turn if the Stockholm had been where it was supposed to be.
@taxid3rmy It was Stockholm's fault to begin with. They weren't supposed to be there in the first place. If Stockholm stayed in theirs line, this situation probably wouldn't have happened.
It's Stockholm Syndrome.
I can’t believe the Stockholm is still around
Where do you think the Isles will place in the Metro next season?
probably not for much longer though
@@ethanhatcher5533 3rd
@@ethanhatcher5533 wait what do you mean
@@Nikolai_The_Grolar Isles/Islanders are a hockey team. This other user has it in their username.
My first cousin twice removed, Luigi DeCristo, was a steward on Italian liners SS Saturnia, SS Andrea Doria, and SS Cristoforo Colombo. He was onboard the night the Andrea Doria sank and was among the survivors. What amazes me just as much as his survival is that he was immediately reassigned to the sister ship, Colombo. Thank you for this wonderful video.
I wish I could go back in time to be there when someone’s dumbass said “I know that if two ships every come close like this, we are supposed to go right...but hear me out...what if we went LEFT”
you need to think that the radar and the rules around it at the time werent as good as now. now add that to the fact that Andrea Doria had the shoals at the starboard so on their perspective it would be dngerous do turn for that side.
It was still the wrong decision. that doesnt change, and the outcome is obvious now, but we need to put ourselves in their position at that time.
Despite the numerous mistakes on both parties, it always makes me happy when people who have no correlation with each other work together to help out those in desperate need.
Loved seeing this. My parents sailed aboard the Andrea Doria one year before it sank. We have several items they saved, like, menus, flyers about activities and other items. Thank you for this video.
Really?? I’d love to see some photos! Do you have a site where they’re posted for viewing?? That’s such an amazing thing to own, you’re so lucky, hindsight is wonderful (-:
@@sed6657 not at this time, but I can get them from my sister and will post, will remember you...
@@gallucciart164 do u remember
@@TheFlopped2979I don't think he remembered
I remember reading a similar book by Robert Ballard when I was a kid. It was in my elementary school library and was called "Ghost Liners". It had 5 ship wrecks in it, Titanic, Britanic, Lusitania, Empress if Ireland, and Andrea Doria. I read it all the time and it definitely sparked my interest in ship wrecks too. I still have a keen interest in the subject and on old ocean liners in general.
Oh! That book was in my school library as well. I read it all the time!
@@DakkTribal Lost Liners is the book's name.
I have a copy of it.
Seeing gigantic ships capsize and tip over is the scariest thing.
The Andrea Doria sinking is the main reason I won't go on a cruise ship. The Titanic seems almost like folklore to me. The Andrea Doria sinking was filmed and televised which makes it real and tangible.
@@catlovermarty exactly. You could never really picture yourself in a situation like that. A 500 something man made ton mass suddenly not working as intended, and starts to sink and tip over into the depths of the vast ocean, with so many souls still on board and everyone scrambling for salvation. It’s intense and horrifying. But you don’t want to take the risk of being in that actual situation. I understand that.
@@arkchiller6126 try 29,000 tons. Thats the kind of weight that just turns you into pavement lotion, even against the water.
@@MrDmitriRavenoff same shit. People dying and that shits sinking either way.
@SPENCER OTTO I saw that video immediately after this one
A whole ass ocean and u hit another ship lmao
😭😭
Like I get hitting an iceberg but lol (I know it was close to the shore and they had to follow a route its a joke)
honestly 🤦♀️
Wait till you hear about plane collisions 👀
That has the same energy as when a city only had two cars and they crashed into each other
Imagine cruising through a VAST sea, no one for hundreds of miles, and you STILL manage to hit someone. Smooth move, Ex Lax
dude there are designated paths
It was in a designated shipping lane and there was heavy fog
I do you one better, imagine the vast sky, and two jet airplanes can still managed to hit each other... (2002 Überlingen mid-air collision)
@@AaronShenghao same principle large amounts of planes go to big international airports and there are also popular routes in the skies
@@anthonyazore3139 yeah, but airplanes fly at different heights for that reason and I’m pretty sure there were other factors in that crash if it is the one I am thinking of 🤔.
Update on the Astoria: In mid-February 2021, the ship was put up for auction with a minimum sale price set at €10 million and final bids to be submitted by March 1, but the deadline passed without any offers. The ship remains in custody in Rotterdam while the owners and creditors deliberate on the next course of action
What a tragedy of errors, bad weather and rushing. Worst combination. Strange that many only know about this incident because of Seinfeld.
Most people are too young to remember the television news coverage that occurred. You couldn't miss it at the time. Now, with so many cable channels and the internet, there is no common experience. I never saw anything about it on Seinfeld. However, I never watched Seinfeld.
The sea was angry that day my friends!
Common experience versus what the experience holds dear... are two very different things
hey at least the stockholm had a strong hull and dident sink
@@einar8019 true
Andrea doria: Exists
MS Stockholm: *im about to end this ship's whole career*
Hms Hood:Exists
Bismarck:I'm about to end this ship's whole career...
yamato: exists
Planes: I'm about to end this mans whole career
Le Reddit Meme
Were a bunch of ship nerds😂
@@kierancalder8573 yes, yes we are
I must say that I take my hat off for the captain and officers that stayed on the ship till the last passenger left
Back then captain is expected to "Go down with the ship"
@@AaronShenghao it’s still expected. The Concordia captain who abandoned the still sinking ship was held responsible because of abandoning his post while there were still people who could be saved.
@@doubtful_seer Same with that South Korean Ferry, the Captain was literally the first one off while High school students were left on the ship. Almost all the crew on that ship survived and most of the students died. the Captain was subsequently jailed for life, he was lucky to avoid the death penalty.
As they should. The captain and crew are responsible with evacuating the passengers from the ship. When they bail early they are essentially leaving panicked and confused passengers to die.
Reportedly the captain wanted to go down with his ship due to his mistakes, but the crew forced him to abandon the ship with everyone else
The ship that took my Graduate Group from Copenhagen to Oslo overnight was the icebreaker S.S. Stockholm
( now the SS Astoria). It was February, 1956, in Scandinavia, and the Kattegat strip between Denmark and Norway was frozen over. Our little ship never slowed down, and sliced through the ice all night.....naturally, no one could sleep. When we heard about the July tragedy, we were not surprised by the damage done. Memories we never forget!
The _Astoria_ is not, nor has she ever been a steamship.
@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 indeed well done to the Swedish shipbuilders. Even though ms Stockholm; has been refitted; redesigned; renamed; flew under many flags of other countries. To this day; she is the longest vessel to achieve all of that. Once again; just to say she will always be the pride of Sweden.
Seriously the term “Unsinkable” needs to stop being applied to ships
If you want to apply that to a space station FINE DO THAT cuz there’s no fuckin water in space
the term unsinkable was never applied to the Andrea Doria
Agreed
Calling a space station "unsinkable" is great, until a chunk of debris tears a hole in the hull and everyone pops like slightly frozen water balloons.
A spacecraft can sink into a planet’s atmosphere so even a space station can’t be called unsinkable.
This is why you name your ship the SS DOOMED TO FAIL. That way, you cancel out the jinx with a double negative!
My late grandfather was retired from the U.S. Coast Guard and an avid sailor. He used to tell me stories of shipwrecks he had assisted with, and my grandparents home was always full of nauticle replicas and books on maritime disasters. Watching the shipwreck videos you put out makes me feel close to him, like I'm listening to one of his stories. If he were still alive I would definitely save to get him one of those amazing replicas. I really appriciate the effort you put into these and I hope you keep making them!
Awww that’s sweet! Also sorry about ur grandfather he sounds like a caring person!
One of the survivor, a young lady named Linda Morgan, was actually asleep in the front part of the Andrea Doria when it hit the Stockholm. Her sister and stepfather were killed, but Linda herself was somehow lifted from the Doria and thrown to the deck of the Stockholm by the impact where she was discovered by a crewmember
I think you've switched the ship names up but yeah
I read that book
Sometimes fate can be kind; this was one such time. She was the first survivor from the Andre Doria, picked up by the Stockholm.
Her sister Joan was not so fortunate.
@@EdisonCollector the ice breaker bow pierced the ship’s side at speed and as Stockholm was simultaneously at full reverse on her engines she backed that rapidly with the young girl on deck. A bizarre and terrible miracle.
0:05 I’ve bought that exact same book back in 2006. I took it with me everywhere much to the annoyance of my mother. I loved ships so much I made models out of cereal boxes & milk bottles. I even got a blue ribbon prize for one of them.
Remember that episode of Seinfeld when George loses a new apartment because they gave it to an andrea doria survivor. "THATS NO TRAGEDY!"
How many people do they lose on a regular cruise? 20 or 30?
The Stockholm may not have sunk ya, but I will!
It's nothing compared to my life as a short, stocky, slow witted bald man.
OMG, Exactly what I was thinking when i saw the title of this video!
@@PV1230 Is that Moss in your profile pic?
The Liners always look so graceful and beautiful when you compare them to modern cruise ships, the Andrea Doria was an exceptional example of the grace and beauty of the Liners.
The Stockholm is now the oldest liner still cruising the ocean. She is a pretty ship.
The Stockholm is now the oldest liner still cruising the ocean. She is a pretty ship.
@@viviviv7325 OMG!
@@idontknowwhatimdoinghere What?
This goes to show that these sailing rules and protocols are there for a reason, they work! When you break rules or take shortcuts, disaster can happen. But it also shows that, when you follow proper rescue procedures, many lives can be saved. Everything from the ships helping each other, to nearby ships responding to distress calls, to the captain staying on leading rescue operations until the end was done accordingly.
Also you should never brand any ship as unsinkable
Unless it is called MS stockholm that thing was running for what 90-100 years
Marko Lomovic 70 I think
@@benmackarel295 yeah that is insane
@@MarkoLomovic 72 as of 2020
Ship: *Titled as unsinkable*
Nature: “Aight, wanna bet on that?” *Readies icebergs and underwater terrain*
I read the story of the Andrea Doria about 60 years ago, in a Readers Digest Condensed book. The little girl that was found on the deck of the other ship was from Andrea Doria, and that fascinated me.
What u read readers digest i also
I saw Astoria (formerly Stockholm) in person during its voyage around the Baltic a few years ago. It was an eerie sight knowing the history surrounding it but it seems I was the only one who knew or cared.
I saw the Astoria in Cobh, Ireland in 2018. I didn’t know her history at the time, but I was curious about this vintage ship and went searching on Google.
I don't think you understand how obsessed I am with all of your boat videos. They are the most interesting thing ever
I really appreciate that, thank you!
Check out great big move too
I know everyone says this, but imagine if Jake had his own Netflix show. The content that would come out of that would be incredible (it already is)
I was thinking the same thing. His content is fantastic!
give him a show somebody
Honestly though!!!
Netflix would "influence" Jake to start talking about different types content. No Thanks, you echo chamber ignoramus!
imagine paying for something I am getting for free
I've never heard of this Ship! It's actually a happier story. The loss of life could've been much greater.
Really? It's one of the most famous shipwrecks ever
I listened to the sinking live, sitting on the edge of my parent's bed, in 1956. I've been obsessed with the sinking and the wreck ever since. I've written a book for kids age 11-16 regarding the ship. Might get it published someday.
I hope to read it
You should publish it, even if you just start online! My daughters would be obsessed with a book like that !!
Y’all need to stop labeling ships “unsinkable”
Ya gotta call it “sinkable” then it won’t sink
@@365_P4RTYGIRL I sometimes wonder how people get their usernames. No hate though!♥️
@@MC-es7oe 💀
They never labeled the Andrea Doria as unsinkable, they only labeled it as being very safe. They also never labeled Titanic as unsinkable either, the closest they got was a magazine that said it was “so safe it’s practically unsinkable!”. The newspapers gave it that label after the sinking. Funny enough, the only liner I can think of that was actually labeled as unsinkable was the United States, which is still afloat
If I were to ever make a big ship like a yacht, I'd say that "While it may be pretty safe, there is still a low, but non-zero chance of it sinking."
Possibly the most wholesome video sponsor in UA-cam history, dude even still has an AOL account
Officers at Annapolis did a deep investigation of this accident. They sent a letter to the Andrea Doria Captain stating she was not at fault. The Captain, shattered by the sinking, died shortly after. He never opened the letter. Also, this ship was essentially T-boned by a ship prow built for ice breaking! She stayed afloat for 11 hours. That is a strong testament to just how well she was built. I haven't found another ship that took anything close to the damage that didn't sink almost immediately.
The andrea doria carried the prototype for the Chrysler Norseman, it was lost during the sinking
Can't believe he overlooked that.
Wait, this car's roof design is the inspiration for all the rooves I have made for the sedans in my game so far. ;w;
@@Clay3613 It is mentioned in the description with other links to things.
@@Clay3613 probably just cut for time to focus more on the ships themselves
Yes, a classy concept car with cantilevered roof and thus no A-pillars. Its ruin is still visible in the Doria wreck.
Any mention of the one of a kind Chrysler Norseman? It was a concept car built in cooperation with an Italian company. It was supposed to be a big showpiece at an upcoming US auto show but they sent it over on the Andrea Dorea
I was hoping i would mention that...
Built by Ghia.
I think it was worth 100k when they shipped it.
Learned about that on a picture someone drew on DeviantArt. That just sucked. :P
Its mentioned in the description
Doria*
* goes to the replica ship site *
* searches around and finally finds a price *
* chuckles and quickly closes page *
You know, I was like why would they chuckle and not like gasp or something. Then, I search for like 10 minutes, find the price, and there I am chuckling.
Oh no, how much are they....
TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS??? Bloody hell that might be the most money-saving 5% discount of UA-cam sponsorships.
@@akaSashK Man my hope has been lost in getting one... I was at least hoping to get the Fitz, or the United States...
@@akaSashK welcome to this hobby
The old Stockholm is still in service (after several extensive refits), my mother has cruised the Baltic in her.
@jantyszka1036 believe that she still is sailing, she is the MS Astoria. Actually age is still a number, she will still be remembered as a beautiful ship that was built in Sweden so many years ago. Can you think of any ship that has survived all these years and are still sailing.
Weird how the Captain didn't "fall" into a lifeboat.
oh, i understood that reference!
Ipf lol
IPF he was forced to, the other crewmates told him to do so
LMFAOKDDJ YEPP
@@kaydenchan7093 then rowed away, refused over and over to go back, ran away when he got to land and tried to go into hiding. Yeah he was definitely forced to do that.
In short, the Andrea Doria incident can be summed up in one word; "Whoopsie".
Lol
Im gonna need you to get all the way off their backs about this accident.
@@Reignor99 What can we expect..some more representatives of the Size 2 hat, Size 50 collar crowd!
@@Reignor99 Oh, let me get off that thing.
Stupid, mate!
Me: did you die
Stockholm: Yes, but I lived
Congratulations 🎉👏 of being the top comment 👍😁 (as of now 😈)
Stockholm: Well yes, but actually no.
Sadly yes, but I lived!
*me when I hear stockholm had icebreaking bow*
Oh shite I already sea were this is going.
I was born about a couple of months after this disaster happened. One of my parents wanted to name me after the ship. Thankfully, the other one nixed it. Can you imagine going through life named after a sunken ship?
Ever since the Costa Concordia video, I’ve been obsessed with your sunken ships videos ☺️ you should do more of these sunken ship videos
Maritime replicas made an absolutely stunning model of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Even with the 5% discount I could never dream of justifying to myself purchasing such a beautiful piece.
I feel that, however I would reach out and see what they have in a more reasonable price range!
@@BrightSunFilms have you see the story of the sinking of the rms Olympic
My cousin is named Andrea Doria, when my mom was pregnant with my older sister (her first) my grandmother said "I don't care what you name her, just PLEASE don't name her after a sunken ship"
She's lucky your mother didn't have a sarcastic sense of humor. "And how is little Titanic today?"
Oh boy
How is titanic nowadays?
I don't know, how's Empress of Ireland?
Andrea Doria was named after a very successful admiral from the 16th century.
Finally, a captain with respect.
There is always something bitterly ironic about two ships colliding at sea. All that space and yet they still manage to crash into one another.
Like two projections hitting the same thing
It was funny when one turned and the other turned the “same” way trying to “avoid” them more but just decided to crash into them instead
The chances become higher the closer you get to land, not to mention the presence of shipping lanes that take advantage of the oceanic currents.
Jake, I’ve had a fascination into oceanliners since I was a little kid. I fell in love with the Titanic when my babysitter took me to see the movie when I was eight years old. You should do a video on the SS Edmund Fitzgerald which was a Great Lake freighter, it’s an interesting story. She was the Titanic of the Great Lakes and in 1975 she disappeared during a bad storm, no survivors. Keep up the good work buddy.
That's actually not a bad idea, Doing a video on the Fitzgerald, Hopefully he'll do one in the future!
Yes please do they even wrote a song about it
8?!! and you see the "scene"
@@Tech_481 song by Gordon Lightfoot. Very sad.
I was watching this video and my dad came in and was like “we had a relative on the Andrea Doria” apparently my Nonna was supposed to take a trans Atlantic journey from Italy to the USA but she left Italy early in 1955. However, her aunt, my great aunt, was actually on the ship when it sunk, she got injured by hurting her arm when it got caught in a door, but the ship shifter and freed her arm, she survived
Glad she survived!!
As a few others have stated, my great-grandparents were also amongst the Andrea Doria during it's final voyage. I believe it was their first trip back to Italy since moving to Canada in the early 1900s. They were able to survive although my great-grandmother suffered a broken leg jumping into the life vessel. My mother who was a child at the time was supposed to be travelling with them. If she had went on the trip, who knows if I'd be here.
Fun fact: The pools still have water in them.
Yeah....sea water.
How do i go there?
@fnj9fjrjgf3 njdksnferogh scuba for long durations
HAH HAH HAH HAH
@@CorneliusCob ik it’s a haha funni joke 😆
I'll be honest. This is probably the best sponsor I've seen as relating to the video's topic. Well played.
Thanks!
"That's no tragedy! How many people do you lose on a normal cruise? 30? 40?" - George Costanza
This is the comment I was looking for!
@@DomMazz I was looking for the comment made by Kramer; the Andrea Doria collided with the Stockholm in dense fog 12 miles off the coast in Nantucket. It's in my book, Astonishing tales of the sea. Lol
@@DomMazz Me too! I also wanna go into George detailing to the tenant association the horrifying story of his life as a short, stocky, slow-witted bald man, oh and also his fiancee died licking toxic envelopes that he picked out!
@@carlgustav945 Also, that Elaine loves Edmund Fitzgerald's voice and swears that the name of the doomed ship was the SS Gordon Lightfoot, which Jerry sarcastically tells her that it was wrecked by the "Cat Stevens"!
@@geoffelder2236 F'n hilarious!
My great-aunt and her first husband were actually booked to travel on the Andrea Doria during it's final voyage, but ended up arriving too late and had to book on another liner. Was always a bit surreal when she would mention that.
Talk about dodging a bullet.
It is absolutely amazing that the Stockholm remined in service for that long, I think they were onto something when they built her with an ice breaking bow. I'd love to see that ship in person.
It's laid up in the port of Rotterdam.
It was decommissioned in 2020 due to the pandemic and has been laid up for the past 3 years. She was threatened to be sent to the scrap heap but nothing came of it. Talks of saving the ship came up but no funding was present and/or secured
@@therandomizer9943I believe it's been designated as a item of historical significance so she won't be scrapped, the owners have stated that it is not an option.
As someone that went to a maritime academy and sailed commercially a few times. There was something that you glossed over that I think needed more emphasis:
"Not following company protocol with filling empty fuel tanks with sea water as ballast" - 12:17
MARPOL and the USCG would have you with Prison time (life) and massive fines (Millions) if you did this. The fuel they use now (HFO/LSFO) is insanely bad for the environment as its solid at room temperature and its secondary use is for paving roads. Back then they used Bunker C which was even worse. Ballasting down out at sea and dumping on your way into port so you could ride high and fill up was a massive contributor to why ports were such bad pollutors back in the day.
Oil in water today is an international crime against humanity (according to IMO and MarPol) as it should be. Given how people get locked away or multimillion dollar lawsuits for seemingly insignificant amounts slipping thru an OWS nowadays its crazy this was every common practice.
thanks. now i understand why walking on the beach on the west coast of denmark my sneakers would get oil globule smears on them, in 1986.
Everything I know about the Andrea Doria I learned from Seinfeld.
Wait'll you hear the Astonishing Tales of Costanza.
@@skiprockjr.6881 LOL!
Andrew Griffith: "It eased into the water like an old man into a nice warm bath...no offence". ~ George Costanza
Bhahaha right, me too
“We had to abandon ship!” “Well all vacations must come to an end eventually” lol
What is it about ships sinking on the captain's final run just before they were about to retire? I'd suggest captains retire one trip earlier than planned to avoid this eventuality.
This is one of the few channels where I don’t mind watching the ads because the content is just THAT good.
I really appreciate that
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@@BrightSunFilms ms estonia???? 😥😥😥😥sas to what happened. So terrifying
Ballard is a research professor at the University of Rhode Island. I always thought it was cool to walk by his research vessel or office and think... THIS man found the Titanic. That’s cool. Walking history.
Anyone who is interested in ocean research and wreck sites owe that man a lot
im in ma. ive seen it! it was awesome!
It was could???
that's just his cover; CIA
@@donnytrumptastic7815 oops should have been "cool" not could. Edit was made to OP.
Time and time again, whenever you watch a new Bright Sun Films video, you already know it's gonna be great
Apparently, one passenger of the Stockholm, a young girl, actually wound up on the Andrea Doria during the collision as her family’s cabin was in the bow. She was the only survivor of her family and was evacuated from the Andrea Doria with the other passengers.
Actually it was the other way around. Linda Morgan was on the Andrea Doria, and was flung on the Stockholm’s bow, which hit her family’s suite head on. It killed her stepfather and half sister, while injuring her mother.
Meanwhile, her father Edward was in New York reporting for ABC Radio about the disaster, not telling audiences that his daughter was feared dead.
Every damn time. "This is one of the safest ships ever devised!" Meanwhile, Poseidon looks at the ship and just smiles. "We shall see mortal. We shall see."
I mean, that was true when they said that about the Titanic. NOTHING, not even a modern ship, could survive hitting an iceberg like that.
The Andrea Doria was poorly designed from the start.
Poseidon Is fake thou
@@genghiskhan.2265 Poseidon the God not the Movie lol
@@disillusionedrightest7313 oop-
@@b-chroniumproductions3177 Wrong, the SS Great Eastern survived more damage then the Titanic and the Andrea Doria.
Thank you for making this video! My grandpa (nonno) was aboard the Andrea Doria when she sunk. Thankfully, he was one of the survivors. Sadly, he passed away ten years after she sank and I never was able to meet him. His wife, my nonna, passed away today and this has surprisingly given me some comfort to know more about my family’s past during this time of grief.
So sorry to have lost your Nonna. I imagine coming here let you relive a bit of her life. May sweet memories bring you comfort.
IMPORTANT. Most recent studies have exonerated the Italian crew and tend to blame the Swedish: it is now generally believed that the Stockholm's radar operator misread the signal and thought the two ships were much further one from another.
@Lurking Carrier it’s a little hard to feel bad for the Stockholm at that point. It’s like driving into oncoming traffic on the freeway and then being surprised when you hit somebody
That is exactly what I was thinking!
It's clearly the stockholm that was wrong. They weren't supposed to be there. Then had faulty radar.
If I recall correctly, the captain of the Doria lost his... License(?). How unfair.
Correct. Carstens-Johnsson (who was actually 3rd officer, not the 'radar operator') is believed to have misread the radar range while in charge of the bridge.
I remember reading a book about the Andrea Doria's final cruise back in the 60s. One of the things that struck me is that one of the passengers on the Andrea Doria was asleep in her cabin. After the collision, she woke up on the Stockholm. She survived but was badly injured as I recall (lost a leg, I think). From the seamanship point of view though, the big, big story here was that the Andrea Doria capsized.. which is to say it rolled over, something it was never suppose to be able to do. But of course the Titantic was suppose to be unsinkable... see a theme here??
Yes, that you pay too much attention to myths propagated by journalists.
"So the boat is just going across the atlantic? How could it have possibly gone so wrong"
*Mentions second ship going in opposite direction*
"Oh. Oh no."
Great video man! Very informative and educational
Late af to the andrea doria video party though
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@@wendymatsik4608, you sound like Fonzie from Happy Days aaaah 👍
I am late & have been thoroughly educated
Dude this video is extremely well-done! I am a professional mariner and your graphic of the collision shows why YOU NEVER TURN TO PORT TO OPEN DISTANCE WITH A VESSEL WITHOUT RADIO COMMUNICATION!
even I know this and I failed my nav rules test i'm a sea scout
My goodness, I salute you with your research on all these maritime disasters. They are reality that they are so scary. Lately, I’ve enjoyed my last cruise to the Mexican Riviera with Royal Carribean and wanted to cruise for the rest of my life and now I’m watching all these disasters. God help us all.
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best in their branch of content, for sure.
Facts
No sorry😉
George Costanza disliked this video.
Doria and all of her sister ships are gone but i love how the one vessel that ended her career is still around.
@Paracosm unfortunately yes; unfortunately mentioned on this video and or others the doria did have design flaws in her shipbuilding design; easy for her to roll; in bad weather or not; unable to correct that. You wonder why; if the shipbuilders were aware of this; why was the same design continuity for her sister ships.
Really enjoyed this. The story is probably the first news story I remember - I was 9 years old at the time. It is great to see the whole sad story. Like many, I was devoted to the story of the Titanic. Later, I travelled from Montreal to Liverpool (Cunard's Carinthia) and London to Montreal (on the SS Alexander Pushkin - now THAT was interesting!).
It’s sad to see a ship this beautiful sink, it would been cool to see one like it today still operating
Not as old, but the Queen Mary 2 is still operating o-o (just in case you didn't already know.. dunno if you mean ocean liners in general or one from that time period o-o)
@gydg nghy Stockholm was retired.
She's going to be a floating museum.
@@Dexter037S4 Was going to be one before it's company went up in smoke
Those picture with multiple ships around Doria is really astonishing
What an absolutely beautiful ship (despite the design flaws) the Andrea Doria was. Great documentary! Gratitude.
Typical Italian philosophy of putting styling before real-world reliability - just as with their cars
@@kingkrimson8771 With that impact, any ship would have sunk.