Beautiful shiai from both sides. The new rules really makes the flow of the match much much better. It's 1000x times better than the last final. Some questioning with the main judge "performance", but please let's make this a lesson for all of us. I'm sure he is not feeling too well right now. Any of us could potentially be in this position in the future. We should all reflect and work harder to make this competition as fair as possible for all participants. I still see a tendency for judges to give "easier" points to the Japanese players in some occasion. Hopefully next tournament it will be even better.
I know for sure the Shinpan will feel very proud and feel he did his job for his country Japan. His friends will celebrate his great performance in this match. Yes, Japan all the way.
It was already annoying no any player information in the live streaming. Why not just add it while clipping? I don't think it's hard actually. Or at least add them into the video introduction?
Ya.. Just tired to see him keeps bringing up the kogi kogi.. he is like a guy who splitting hairs 🤦🏻♂️ I mean , come on … Japanese team is strong enough to compete in the Shiai, no need for special caring from judges , innit ?
Regardless of the matches themselves, the broadcast / livestream for this WKC was awfully bad - even the worst, it made it completely unenjoyable. From wrong / no info and layouts for most of the part to terribly annoying commentators swalling the mic, lense cap still on the camera / no image during a match, info and teams not being updated etc. etc. Mistakes on the first day are absolutely human, but with no improvement throughout the tournament, this was absolutely disgraceful. For a WKC, this was beyond poor and unprofessional. Glad next WKC will be held in Japan and organised by ZNKR from a broadcasting perspective.
Japan is a little better but the referees are not judging consistently and soundly. There seems a slight bias towards Japan. The second score from Takenouchi seems to have hit Korean player’s shinai. Kim in the last match should have been give a point for that tsuki. That would have resulted in 2:2 and a final rematch between Kim and Ando should have resulted. Kim is quite young and the fact that he stood toe to toe against Ando of Japan itself is impressive!
28:57 The other videos show that the sound is solid and the stance is stable, so the judges are not mistaken in their judgment. 33:38 This tsuki is not an ippon because the sword tip is slightly off and the stance is off. You might want to look back at the tsuki that Hoshiko played in the Japan vs Hungary 🇭🇺 match
The referee of Kendo is difficult. Instead of looking at it and thinking, you have to feel the perfection of the technique in an instant. If you don't actually play Kendo for many years, you won't be a referee.韓国強い！！
Just striking the target will not raise the flags from the perspective of ki Ken tai icchi. Your spirit, ken, and body need to be combined as one. Three judges are doing their best to see that. Also, kenshi needs to double the training effort and show respect to bring forth luck.
1. Korean athletes often fall down, if this were on the battlefield, such a defeated posture would indicate that their training needs to be strengthened. 2. The chief referee in a match often calls for an inappropriate stop. Other martial arts events often call for a stoppage, but there is no ruling, which will be considered as an incompetent referee and may even be suspended. In this team event, the chief referee keeps calling for a stop, does this indicate that the referee's self-confidence and technical level are being questioned by himself and the audience? 3. If the technical level of the referee lacks self-confidence and is not proficient in implementing the rules, the fairness of the competition will be questioned.
너무 티가 난다. 양쪽 어느 선수들에게도 도움이 되지 않는다. 찝찝한 승리보다 완전한 승리와 수긍하게 만드는 패배를 선수에게 줘야 한다. 선수들의 노고와 땀을 심판이 헛되게 만들면 안된다. 주심만의 문제가 아니다. 우승한 선수들이나 패배한 선수들 모두 안타깝게만 느껴진다.
@@Clides-gg8ll I think it is simply a matter of footwork. Even in individual competitions, Japanese players rarely slip. I know their high school days and they trained their feet like crazy.
@@Akrisi I think Korean team members slipped because they tried to change direction on the slippery parts of that court (which seemed to be at the corners). The Japanese players seemingly tried to keep out of those areas and their attacks were fairly straight. Note their attacks came near the center of the court. I mean they weren’t immune and they were slipping too but much less.
First one was on the shinai, but at 26:56 was perfect on men and the japanese kendoka was just to solw to block. But maybe the ippon at 25:57 was given because they didn't give about 3 ippon for Korea in the last three minutes
Competitors from both side performed spectacularly. There needs to be much more improvement on the judges as well as tournament logistics.
Couldn't have said it better!
審判の育成は最重要課題です。
審判は真剣に勝負している選手たちに対して公平公正にジャッジする責任がありますし、選手が審判に敬意を払うのと同じく、審判も選手に敬意を払わなければなりません。
勝負に水を差すような進行や判定があってはなりません。
両国とも選手たちはいい試合をしたと思います。
日本に媚び売っておかないと世界大会での審判の地位が危ないからでしょうね？
Shushin: Yoshiro Takahashi, Shihan Nana-Dan (Hawaii)
Fukushin: Hayato Okawa Kyoshi Nana-Dan (USA) & Markus Frey Kyoshi Nana-Dan (Finland)
個人的には次鋒戦の反則と、中堅戦の引き胴は確かに疑問が残ると感じました。
主審の旗が赤は上に、白は横に上げられがちだったと言われれば私もそう思います。
（引き分けの大将戦を赤の一本勝ちと思ったという喜劇を演じて見せた点からも）
それ以外は、そこまでのおかしさはないと思いました。
同じ日本に住む者として、日本選手やその関係者含めて、
前回の決勝戦のトラウマを抱えて乗り越えて闘われた点、誇りに思います。
また、今回は観客として韓国選手の強さをしっかりと見て感じられたので、
本当に見ごたえある有意義な大会でした。
喧嘩に流れそうになっていた両国間の歴史から考えると、
これは勇気のある前進で、
今回の大会の大きな感動の一つでした。
これを元年とし、改善すべき点を改善し、両国切磋琢磨を続ければ
韓国が日本に勝つ時があっても全然おかしくないと個人的には思います。
観客としては、発言するのであれば勉強を続けることを糧とし
純粋な剣道以外の部分でのヒートアップを助長して
前回の喧嘩のような競技に戻すべきではないと思っています。
👍👍👍👍
Beautiful shiai from both sides. The new rules really makes the flow of the match much much better. It's 1000x times better than the last final.
Some questioning with the main judge "performance", but please let's make this a lesson for all of us. I'm sure he is not feeling too well right now. Any of us could potentially be in this position in the future. We should all reflect and work harder to make this competition as fair as possible for all participants.
I still see a tendency for judges to give "easier" points to the Japanese players in some occasion. Hopefully next tournament it will be even better.
I know for sure the Shinpan will feel very proud and feel he did his job for his country Japan. His friends will celebrate his great performance in this match. Yes, Japan all the way.
As a newbie to this sport, what did the new rules change, exactly?
I'm korean but i think it will be better with 3 shinpan from japan instead of 3 international shinpan. 😅
今回の大会、個人的に本当に素晴らしかったと思います。
まず、韓国選手の剣道が非常に美しくなったと感じました。コロナ対策ルールが適用されたことで、遠間から一足一刀までの間合いの駆け引きが重視され、以前のように鍔迫り合いが試合の大半を占めていた時とは比べ物にならないほど見応えがありました。
審判の判定についてはさまざまな意見があるかと思います。韓国選手の技が決まっていないのに旗が上がったケースや、一本が入っているように見えたのに上がらなかったケース、日本側でも物議を醸す場面があったと思います。
私はアメリカで剣道に取り組んでおり、道場の先生方や同じ組織で親しくさせていただいている剣道の先生方がアメリカ代表として今回の大会にも審判で参加されています。彼らは日々真剣に剣道に向き合い、世界大会で審判を務める際に、公平で正しい判断をすることの重要性を常に熱く語られています。
もちろん人間ですから完璧でないこともあるかと思います。ただ、私はそれも剣道の一つだと感じています。以前西村選手がテレビの取材か何かで語られていたと思うのですが、剣道における一本の基準は機械で判断されるものではなく、その場の雰囲気やその人の持つオーラなど、さまざまな要素が絡んで一本につながる事もある。これがまた剣道の面白さであり、醍醐味ではないかと仰られていました。
選手の皆様、運営に携わられた役員の皆様、本当にお疲れ様でした。最高の世界大会をありがとうございました。来期また日本で行われるレベルアップした世界大会を、心より楽しみにしております。
Just a misjudge doesn't matter. The problem is that misjudge often happens in favor of Japan especially against Korea.
審判の質が苦い味を残した。
草野選手を倒した韓国の中堅が素晴らしく強かった。上段相手に一歩も引かず攻め続けた結果が2本の返し技に繋がったと思います。
しかしその後の竹ノ内選手は流石の勝負強さでしたね。
It was already annoying no any player information in the live streaming. Why not just add it while clipping? I don't think it's hard actually. Or at least add them into the video introduction?
Gogi gogi gogi gogi
Ya.. Just tired to see him keeps bringing up the kogi kogi.. he is like a guy who splitting hairs 🤦🏻♂️
I mean , come on … Japanese team is strong enough to compete in the Shiai, no need for special caring from judges , innit ?
The explosive movement is absolutely shocking to see. Kendo has come so far.
Why wasn't the Korean allowed to tie his men at 23:56 and even was ignored by the Shinpan?
前回大会で韓国人選手が意図的に面を直し、時間稼ぎをしていたためではないでしょうか？
The main ref immediately shook his head as soon as the request was made too.
Decided that he was in a condition to continue the match.
Japan bias lolllll They wanna keep their position as Shinpan in WKC so all Shinpan has Japan bias 😂
@@mmrxxmmrxx Are you a kendo practitioner? Please explain which specific scenes you found bias.
Regardless of the matches themselves, the broadcast / livestream for this WKC was awfully bad - even the worst, it made it completely unenjoyable. From wrong / no info and layouts for most of the part to terribly annoying commentators swalling the mic, lense cap still on the camera / no image during a match, info and teams not being updated etc. etc.
Mistakes on the first day are absolutely human, but with no improvement throughout the tournament, this was absolutely disgraceful.
For a WKC, this was beyond poor and unprofessional. Glad next WKC will be held in Japan and organised by ZNKR from a broadcasting perspective.
Japan is a little better but the referees are not judging consistently and soundly. There seems a slight bias towards Japan. The second score from Takenouchi seems to have hit Korean player’s shinai. Kim in the last match should have been give a point for that tsuki. That would have resulted in 2:2 and a final rematch between Kim and Ando should have resulted. Kim is quite young and the fact that he stood toe to toe against Ando of Japan itself is impressive!
28:57 The other videos show that the sound is solid and the stance is stable, so the judges are not mistaken in their judgment.
33:38 This tsuki is not an ippon because the sword tip is slightly off and the stance is off. You might want to look back at the tsuki that Hoshiko played in the Japan vs Hungary 🇭🇺 match
25:56 This was not a single strike as it completely hit the shinai. I agree that the referee was not competent, but I am not biased against Japan.
The tsuki missed striking beside the neck guard. It was indeed a beautiful thrust though
You are a Korean, stop coping.
There are certain strikes that Korean players scored but no flag
When?
수고하셨습니다
I agree to all the points in this final but I can't accept the 2nd point men by the 4th player as his Sinai hit only the front tip of men.
The referee of Kendo is difficult. Instead of looking at it and thinking, you have to feel the perfection of the technique in an instant. If you don't actually play Kendo for many years, you won't be a referee.韓国強い！！
Sooooo many gogi this time, but to be expected with the rules i suppose.
역시 5 대 5 경기가 아닌 5명 대 8명의 경기 잘 보았습니다.
5対8ではなく3対10だよ。
日本人も今回の審判に怒っている。
Just striking the target will not raise the flags from the perspective of ki Ken tai icchi. Your spirit, ken, and body need to be combined as one. Three judges are doing their best to see that. Also, kenshi needs to double the training effort and show respect to bring forth luck.
@@chasersukiyon8341 need zanshin too. This is literally why you need human judges rather than electronics like you see with fencing.
Japan is really good at this. Why.. I wonder? ;)
The Japanese team was so technical and sharp. Korean team just loosey goosey stumbling and literally turning their backs in retreat at times
1. Korean athletes often fall down, if this were on the battlefield, such a defeated posture would indicate that their training needs to be strengthened.
2. The chief referee in a match often calls for an inappropriate stop. Other martial arts events often call for a stoppage, but there is no ruling, which will be considered as an incompetent referee and may even be suspended. In this team event, the chief referee keeps calling for a stop, does this indicate that the referee's self-confidence and technical level are being questioned by himself and the audience?
3. If the technical level of the referee lacks self-confidence and is not proficient in implementing the rules, the fairness of the competition will be questioned.
Nice saying , mate !
너무 티가 난다. 양쪽 어느 선수들에게도 도움이 되지 않는다. 찝찝한 승리보다 완전한 승리와 수긍하게 만드는 패배를 선수에게 줘야 한다. 선수들의 노고와 땀을 심판이 헛되게 만들면 안된다. 주심만의 문제가 아니다. 우승한 선수들이나 패배한 선수들 모두 안타깝게만 느껴진다.
あなたはとても美しい考えを持ってますね
Dibbert Alley
韓国もようやくましな試合ができる様になった気がします。剣道は勝ちゃいいってもんじゃない。その辺アメリカ人の方がわかっている気がする｡｡｡｡
いい面だ〜 12:12
It's a shame the floor was so slippery
Why only the Korean team slipped?
They slipped a lot in 17th WKC final, also...
@@Akrisi On the previous days many athlets fell as well!
@@Clides-gg8ll I think it is simply a matter of footwork. Even in individual competitions, Japanese players rarely slip. I know their high school days and they trained their feet like crazy.
@@Akrisi I think Korean team members slipped because they tried to change direction on the slippery parts of that court (which seemed to be at the corners).
The Japanese players seemingly tried to keep out of those areas and their attacks were fairly straight. Note their attacks came near the center of the court. I mean they weren’t immune and they were slipping too but much less.
Korean only….
A freakin steal if you ask me
I am not sure if this commentator is for real public??? Some of what she said was just inappropriate and dumb
Korea team is better than the last championship though there are still indecent in some points.
우리 팀은 대부분 처녀출전으로 경험이 없음에도 잘 싸워줬다 생각합니다. 차기, 차차기가 기대됩니다.👍
私は日本人だが、韓国選手のツキは一本だと思う。
あと、出小手も一本では？
公平にやらないと真面目にやっている日本選手にも失礼だと思う。
Lee Scott Wilson Linda Davis Brian
한판 들어가지도 않았는데 죽도 들고 토끼마냥 깡충깡충 뛰어다니면서 피력하는거나 치고 뒤도 안돌아보고 줄행랑치는것같은 모습은 정말 보기 재미있습니다.
공정한 판정을 하시길
정말 심판 저정도 밖에 안되나 그게 손목이야
誰が勝ったかは誰もが知っている
최악의 심판. 공정하지 못한 판정이 계속되면 검도는 역사 속으로 사라질 것이다. 일본에서 경각심 갖고 대책을 마련해라.
더럽고 추악한 심판들이 훌륭한 선수들의 경기를 망쳤다!
25:57 26:56 試合見てて違和感あり見直しスローモーションで見たら面にすら当たってない。
抗議すると旗が上がりやすくなるなんて・・とても残念。
First one was on the shinai, but at 26:56 was perfect on men and the japanese kendoka was just to solw to block. But maybe the ippon at 25:57 was given because they didn't give about 3 ippon for Korea in the last three minutes
言い訳はいいから😊素直に負けを認めよう😂
講義すると旗が上がりやすくなるかはともかくとして、面当たってないのは本当だね笑 結果的に勝てたから流せるけど...うん
@@jagaimo3254 ね、そうでしょ。皆コリア目線で見てますが日本に対しての判定の厳しさを感じていました。
何処が日本判定やん？もし日本と韓国を入れ替えて見たら韓国は発狂している位日本は良い打突を有効にされていないと思いますよ。
@@Money-p7d
負けてないけどね・・ｗ 圧倒的な勝利です。
特に今回は石田さんや宮崎さんの時代位にゴールデンチームだと思いますよ。
安定した強さです、星子に松崎、林田選手でてほしかったけど、インターハイにでる高校の顧問してるから仕方ないな