The fact that you paused the music during the incredible drop at the beginning to say “oh it’s so good” is being investigated as a crime against Super Earth.
For me, "A Cup of Liber-Tea" is up there with "Daredevil" from Ace Combat 7, and "Showdown" from Project Wingman in regards to hype-generating-awesomeness.
It seems to harken back to Basil Poledouris and his works, such as Klendathu Drop from Starship Troopers. He was the guy that composed the Starship Troopers sound track and Helldivers takes A LOT from Starship Troopers, therefore it is not surprising that Poledouris's style is emulated.
@@NuclearFalcon146 It's funny you mention Poledouris, as he's (was) one of my favorite composers. I think the reminiscence of it comes from the game's focus on the brass section, which is overwhelmingly utilized in Poledouris' works. Listen to Robocop's theme, as an example.
@@NuclearFalcon146 Yeah there is some Poledouris in here (obviously), but this style reminds me much more of Thomas Bergersen from Two Steps From Hell. Especially some of his older tracks.
I can’t believe no one’s talking about the fact that the the four notes of the brass in the main motif of the song feature a descending pattern, which plays very prominently the very moment you Helldive, to the point that with four players it almost fires the individual hellpods to the music. As if the music itself is telling you, you are descending into hell.
@@GrumpyEyeAudio Well, of course the 4 notes in a descending pattern is very obvious to anyone, but connecting that to the game being about 4 people descending to hell is interesting 😊
The thing that gets me about Will’s score is that it’s actually really well-written music. Especially in regards to the orchestration and counterpoint/counter melody. He’s not faking it, even though the game is heavily satirical. Basically everything we hear after those first four brass notes is based on that theme. Even the B section of the first part is based on the ascending version of the same intervals
ikr i was super impressed haven't heard that in game music too often (also might be because i don't play as much as I used to) but definitely here it movie scores.
I asked him a few questions about plugins and what was recorded, and he responded that everything but the high winds was recorded (he thinks), and that the brass has Hollywood horns with hipass layered on top to bring out the mids more. I would definitely contact him and ask him questions if you have any, he seems to be very on top with responses!
For me the Helldivers 2 soundtrack wades into Halo territory of epicness and recognizability. It helps that the game itself is great, but the music adds a whole new dimension and makes everything you do seem more grand and meaningful.
@@RudyBleeker I agree. Most games I play with my own music in the background but I have been playing HD II with the native music due to how much it adds to the general tone and feel.
The piano section where you explain exactly WHAT is being done and HOW it sounds, it really helps to pull it together and understand, along with the other musical rules and such. Also idk what piano that is and if it's using a preset or something, but it has this nice emotion to it in how the keys sound.
This theme when i first heard gave me close to the same feelings as Find The Flame from Final Fantasy 16. Just felt strong and had a duty to accomplish my objectives
I play with the music off a bit more often than not nowadays. I’m honestly IN LOVE with the sound track, genuinely cannot fault it at all, I’ve just played so much of the game that now I can start to feel the music become a tad repetitive (my own fault for playing loads). Sometimes I play with no music and just SFX and it sounds so brutal and real in level 9. Other times I’ll play with music for. Other games, movies or tv shows and that’s been a blast!
I almost always turn off the music in games. All my friends who play were talking about hiw good the music was so now I have it on like 25 super low in the background so I dont usually hear it unless its pretty quite (rarely)
Music really can make and break games. Just the other day I watched a scene from Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth without music and it was awkward as hell(copyright stuff on UA-cam does that a lot).. however I have rarely found music in a game not fitting.. while I have heard it in film and television a lot of times. The only times I had unfitting music in games was due to bugs or bad development quality control..
Will's been responding to every comment I've seen, I sent him an email and he replied with the most detailed response, twice. I love his use of harmony throughout all the games he's composed for, and the complex rhythms he used when you're fighting the terminids are awesome (he said he took inspiration from Jerry Goldsmith's Planet of the Apes with that. A lot of his music is great for studying as well, check out the Mortal Combat 11 and 1's scores, lots of really nice use of harmony and instrumentation.
Dude, it's good to see you looking happy and excited again! I was in a Teams meeting and missed the live premier but I'm catching up before joining some friends for the Overdrive event.
You rock Grumpy! Followed you here, and love what you're doing. I'm only just learning about music and what better way than from a Grumpy badass talking about epic FREEDOM NOTES?!
Good stuff. There are a quite a bit of channels on youtube of people working in the music industry who have found relative success by making reactions+analysis of video game music, so this type of content might work out for you. 👍
I wouldn't want to focus on recreating/explaining how game music works in most games, I would love to do everything that is music production related :)
For me, one using for years the Eastweest samples (Symphonic Orchestra) , Opus plug in, is so easy to do that level of quality, and some sounds are familiar to me :P. And Epic score and TSFH use them.....
Democracy is inevitable the galaxy will adapt it whether they like it or not. All helldivers are required their daily cup of Liber-Tea for peak democracy spreading condition. For Super Earth!
It is so over the top epic, which makes sense for satire. None the less, you feel like a hero every time this theme plays. How many of us have caught ourselves literally cheering for Super Earth?
Wasnt this guy also behind some iconic Destiny 2 OSTs?? Say what you want about D2, but the music department never misses. So its no surprise Helldivers 2 has a theme so prominent it literally affects the gameplay experience
I will make videos on anything that is related to music production, and I might do these kind of videos in the future too.. idk. This video was basically a test of my new video setup.. and I don't like it lol
It's too long. But what I can tell you is that I laughed my ass off at the sq42 showcase score. It was way too cringe.. especially the moment when the accordion starts playing 🤣
@@GrumpyEyeAudio I was a bit underwhelmed by the SQ42 stuff but found the star engine promo to be much better than I expected. I did enjoy the score very much thus why I wanted your opinion on it. But you are correct, it was very long, I can imagine that to be a huge undertaking.
This is great Grumpy. Nice focus on breaking down cinematic game music love the idea. Are you going to stick with game music or expand out beyond this genre?
that's a perception most people have because of most of the music that is out there right now. But you can't sing a chord. You don't get pulled into the music by a chord. You don't sing the Indiana jones/Star Wars themes by singing chords. That's why you need an incredible melody.
@@GrumpyEyeAudioExactly that why much music is inferior, they focus and promote the cord and then compliment it with an inferior melody. The Hell diver theme has both excellent. I love many guitar chord and listen to the music just for that, but an excellent filler in between can make it awesome IE., Robert Plant's Big Log.
I'm feeling it Mr. Krabs. Amazing video. I have a guitar so the notes are more helpful than the piano keys. I appreciate the explanation of the Time Signature. Every song I've learned has used 4/4. I could definitely tell something was up with this song before you explained it. The Helldivers audiobooks narrated by R.C. Bray are worth a listen/read. Great story. I's not the same universe as the videogames.
@@GrumpyEyeAudio Yeah no It's superbly written, by cheesy I mean that It's so ridiculously heroic and epic that it's like a joke, but as you play It transcends that comedic quality, much like other aspects of the games design, Defiantly did mean imply the writing was bad
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The fact that you paused the music during the incredible drop at the beginning to say “oh it’s so good” is being investigated as a crime against Super Earth.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@GrumpyEyeAudioI was pissed when you did it
He is being investigated by the nearest democracy officer as we speak.
Definitely treason!
A democracy officer will be at your location soon. @@GrumpyEyeAudio
This theme is so absurdly well written, and the fact it plays every single time you drop… god I love freedom.
I love it everytime i hear it and i don't think I'll ever tire of it either
For me, "A Cup of Liber-Tea" is up there with "Daredevil" from Ace Combat 7, and "Showdown" from Project Wingman in regards to hype-generating-awesomeness.
you, my man, have great taste! respect o7
It seems to harken back to Basil Poledouris and his works, such as Klendathu Drop from Starship Troopers. He was the guy that composed the Starship Troopers sound track and Helldivers takes A LOT from Starship Troopers, therefore it is not surprising that Poledouris's style is emulated.
@@NuclearFalcon146 It's funny you mention Poledouris, as he's (was) one of my favorite composers. I think the reminiscence of it comes from the game's focus on the brass section, which is overwhelmingly utilized in Poledouris' works. Listen to Robocop's theme, as an example.
SHOWDOWN MENTIONED!!!!!🥳 🎉 🪅 🎊 I LOVE JOSE PAVLIIII!!!!!!!❤️ ♥️ 🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@NuclearFalcon146 Yeah there is some Poledouris in here (obviously), but this style reminds me much more of Thomas Bergersen from Two Steps From Hell. Especially some of his older tracks.
I can’t believe no one’s talking about the fact that the the four notes of the brass in the main motif of the song feature a descending pattern, which plays very prominently the very moment you Helldive, to the point that with four players it almost fires the individual hellpods to the music. As if the music itself is telling you, you are descending into hell.
I thought it was so obvious that I didn't have to mention it 😂
@@GrumpyEyeAudio Well, of course the 4 notes in a descending pattern is very obvious to anyone, but connecting that to the game being about 4 people descending to hell is interesting 😊
BUH BUH BUH BUHHHHH
The thing that gets me about Will’s score is that it’s actually really well-written music. Especially in regards to the orchestration and counterpoint/counter melody.
He’s not faking it, even though the game is heavily satirical. Basically everything we hear after those first four brass notes is based on that theme. Even the B section of the first part is based on the ascending version of the same intervals
Exactly!
ikr i was super impressed haven't heard that in game music too often (also might be because i don't play as much as I used to) but definitely here it movie scores.
@@michelchaman6495 same! I’d love to do an analysis video myself at some point from a compositional/orchestration standpoint
@@PeterTMusicthat sounds awesome, lmk if u do, i'll check it out!
The music is what sold me on the game. The importance of music in games can NOT be understated. Imagine DOOM without MUSIC. EXACTLY.
that games music really is so awesome, just hearing it gets me hyped, and i don't even have the game (yet).
Guys, buy the game whenever you can, you won't regret it, it's awesome, seriously
@Kesteenwait for the music IN GAME, SURROUNDED BY bugs and bullets everywhere. You are gonna F LOVE IT.
Finally a music reactor that doesn't just say nice music I like it but actually breaks down the music!!!
Banger video, man! Would love to see more insights from you on game music.
Im amazed by the soundtrack. He recorded the horns and different parts according to Twitter.
You can tell. That horn is vocal and loud, and the tuba just bellowing, and what sounds like peak trumpet playing.
I asked him a few questions about plugins and what was recorded, and he responded that everything but the high winds was recorded (he thinks), and that the brass has Hollywood horns with hipass layered on top to bring out the mids more. I would definitely contact him and ask him questions if you have any, he seems to be very on top with responses!
It also give tribute to its prequel Helldiver in the 3rd movement. This is a great piece.
This game was exactly what the world needed at exactly the right time. And yes, the score is Blockbuster movie quality.
For me the Helldivers 2 soundtrack wades into Halo territory of epicness and recognizability. It helps that the game itself is great, but the music adds a whole new dimension and makes everything you do seem more grand and meaningful.
@@RudyBleeker I agree. Most games I play with my own music in the background but I have been playing HD II with the native music due to how much it adds to the general tone and feel.
It sounds like the style of Basil Poledouris is being emulated quite well.
The piano section where you explain exactly WHAT is being done and HOW it sounds, it really helps to pull it together and understand,
along with the other musical rules and such. Also idk what piano that is and if it's using a preset or something, but it has this nice emotion to it in how the keys sound.
thank you very much :)
A cup of liber-tea gives me the feels of from monster hunter back in the days
the amount of production quality from such a small channel is great. Good job man
Thank you very much :)
The song just hypes you up to answer the call for managed democracy. New subscriber great content.
This theme when i first heard gave me close to the same feelings as Find The Flame from Final Fantasy 16. Just felt strong and had a duty to accomplish my objectives
I play with the music off a bit more often than not nowadays. I’m honestly IN LOVE with the sound track, genuinely cannot fault it at all, I’ve just played so much of the game that now I can start to feel the music become a tad repetitive (my own fault for playing loads). Sometimes I play with no music and just SFX and it sounds so brutal and real in level 9. Other times I’ll play with music for. Other games, movies or tv shows and that’s been a blast!
I almost always turn off the music in games. All my friends who play were talking about hiw good the music was so now I have it on like 25 super low in the background so I dont usually hear it unless its pretty quite (rarely)
Music really can make and break games. Just the other day I watched a scene from Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth without music and it was awkward as hell(copyright stuff on UA-cam does that a lot).. however I have rarely found music in a game not fitting.. while I have heard it in film and television a lot of times. The only times I had unfitting music in games was due to bugs or bad development quality control..
Will's been responding to every comment I've seen, I sent him an email and he replied with the most detailed response, twice. I love his use of harmony throughout all the games he's composed for, and the complex rhythms he used when you're fighting the terminids are awesome (he said he took inspiration from Jerry Goldsmith's Planet of the Apes with that. A lot of his music is great for studying as well, check out the Mortal Combat 11 and 1's scores, lots of really nice use of harmony and instrumentation.
Dude, it's good to see you looking happy and excited again! I was in a Teams meeting and missed the live premier but I'm catching up before joining some friends for the Overdrive event.
Hearing this really reminds me of Lost Planet 2’s sound track
Just Subscribed. More breakdowns please! Not fussed if it's movie, video game, or other. I very much enjoyed this.
Good to see you again, nice breakdown and epic music :D need to hear it again!
This soundtrack is up there with the original halo for me.
reason why it so good
1 democracy
2 liberty
3 freedom
4 communist
( last one just joke)
Be careful with the jokes, hell diver. Ministry of truth is watching
"for" communist? Sound more like treason to me...
I wish so much for a live performance of this masterpiece of a soundtrack
You rock Grumpy! Followed you here, and love what you're doing. I'm only just learning about music and what better way than from a Grumpy badass talking about epic FREEDOM NOTES?!
🤣❤️
The music on this game, and your explanation of it, is just on point.
Good stuff. There are a quite a bit of channels on youtube of people working in the music industry who have found relative success by making reactions+analysis of video game music, so this type of content might work out for you. 👍
I wouldn't want to focus on recreating/explaining how game music works in most games, I would love to do everything that is music production related :)
For me, one using for years the Eastweest samples (Symphonic Orchestra) , Opus plug in, is so easy to do that level of quality, and some sounds are familiar to me :P. And Epic score and TSFH use them.....
I like new Grumpy. I liked old Grumpy too. Yay Grumpy.
Love the music, and i’ve been waiting for an analysis video like this from anyone. earned a sub from me
Reminds me of the original BF1942 music being so much better than other games at the time.... drums and brass baby! (this is Atlas BTW)
Good analysis. Im looking forward for the next videos.
I was a hero like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee...
Really like your analysis and breakdown of this theme. Got yourself a new subscriber my dude. Dobr dan from Switzerland 🤘🏽
1:10 what you did here should be very ilegal, almost taboo
Me pausing the song at the start? I realized when I edited it that it looked like I was trolling
@@GrumpyEyeAudio that's... not even the start, it was the end of the build-up, very disrespectful
Really enjoyed this. Insightful.
Yep... the main theme is my ringtone! LOL
Democracy is inevitable the galaxy will adapt it whether they like it or not. All helldivers are required their daily cup of Liber-Tea for peak democracy spreading condition. For Super Earth!
The Hitchhiker's Guide reference 😄
It is so over the top epic, which makes sense for satire. None the less, you feel like a hero every time this theme plays. How many of us have caught ourselves literally cheering for Super Earth?
Wasnt this guy also behind some iconic Destiny 2 OSTs?? Say what you want about D2, but the music department never misses. So its no surprise Helldivers 2 has a theme so prominent it literally affects the gameplay experience
is game music going to be one part of the channel? if so what other games will come up next?
I will make videos on anything that is related to music production, and I might do these kind of videos in the future too.. idk. This video was basically a test of my new video setup.. and I don't like it lol
I know you have your issues with Star Citizen, however I would love your expert analysis of the score they used for the Star Engine Promo.
It's too long. But what I can tell you is that I laughed my ass off at the sq42 showcase score. It was way too cringe.. especially the moment when the accordion starts playing 🤣
@@GrumpyEyeAudio I was a bit underwhelmed by the SQ42 stuff but found the star engine promo to be much better than I expected. I did enjoy the score very much thus why I wanted your opinion on it. But you are correct, it was very long, I can imagine that to be a huge undertaking.
@@Eneeki it wouldn't be hard, don't get me wrong.. but most people wouldn't watch it how long it would be lol
When you have the sudden urge to spread managed democracy!
It is a great song. It is also the favourite chords of Swedish House Mafia in some songs. It is tested and proved chords that resonate. Great video!
This is great Grumpy. Nice focus on breaking down cinematic game music love the idea.
Are you going to stick with game music or expand out beyond this genre?
I will do everything that has anything to do with music production and music in general. From tutorials, to stuff like this :)
Relating the chord ... the Chord is the Hero of the song the melody in between is the Filler. good filler vs bad filler.
that's a perception most people have because of most of the music that is out there right now.
But you can't sing a chord. You don't get pulled into the music by a chord. You don't sing the Indiana jones/Star Wars themes by singing chords.
That's why you need an incredible melody.
@@GrumpyEyeAudioExactly that why much music is inferior, they focus and promote the cord and then compliment it with an inferior melody. The Hell diver theme has both excellent. I love many guitar chord and listen to the music just for that, but an excellent filler in between can make it awesome IE., Robert Plant's Big Log.
WHY DID YOU PAUSE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I'm feeling it Mr. Krabs. Amazing video. I have a guitar so the notes are more helpful than the piano keys.
I appreciate the explanation of the Time Signature. Every song I've learned has used 4/4.
I could definitely tell something was up with this song before you explained it.
The Helldivers audiobooks narrated by R.C. Bray are worth a listen/read. Great story. I's not the same universe as the videogames.
Thanks! I'll check them out :)
What an excellent description for a non musical music lover.
Great video bud, good luck with the channel
Hey, great video! Was wondering if you could cover the music queue in the epic scene of "Ride of the Rohirrim" in The Lord of the Rings!
This music is so cheesy it transcends into pure awesomeness
idk man, I would say that avengers' music is cheesy. this is actually a well written tune
@@GrumpyEyeAudio Yeah no It's superbly written, by cheesy I mean that It's so ridiculously heroic and epic that it's like a joke, but as you play It transcends that comedic quality, much like other aspects of the games design, Defiantly did mean imply the writing was bad
@@Silvergum got ya :)
Equally as good as RuneScapes orchestral recordings they did
I HIGHLY disagree about it being boring without music. I usually play games while listening to something else. You’re just wrong there.
Please analyse Mandalorian's OST
I just thought they copied pacific rim or something haha, reminds me of the robots getting activated
Enter mick Gordon with a 6 string
Helldivers 2 is like Helldivers Christmas Special. It's not "good" it's overproduced.
hd1 was better