Using Ashes, You Can Solar Ignite ANY Tinder With A Water Bottle, PART 2/2
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- WEAR SUNGLASSES FOR SOLAR EXPERIMENTS!!! Wine Bottle Solar Ignitions... Think about the path of the focused photons. I angle the bottle towards the Sun, the photons pass through the arched convex glass, through 6" of water, and back out through some arched concave glass. This is the best focal point to use with these shapes of bottles... Then look how quickly the ashed tinder ignites and how quickly it grows a self sustaining ember. The 3 tinders that I saturated with ash are grass, pine needles and cotton terry cloth fabric.... Please SUBSCRIBE at the end of the video. Thanks!
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I had never heard of ash tender until I found your channel yesterday. Thank you, David.
I just introduced it last Summer. I can tell most people don't realize the significance of it. eg... why would you ever carry fire from one camp to another? why would you ever worry that the rain put out your fire? ashes impregnated fabric with charred edges (no tin charring of the edges) then flint and steel...or, quartz and knife spine... or, solar and you're ready to build that fire again...Ashed Tinder, Comparing The Ashed With The Nonashed ua-cam.com/video/rSQUUjBAHsQ/v-deo.html
Me either and I've been doing bushcraft and survivalist stuff for years. I've got to try it.
David the firebender. You're a master in the art of fire making, sir! Love your videos
Thanks Rafa! I do enjoy it!
I am going to try this. Thumbs up. Not sure why 10 people gave it a thumbs down. Nothing wrong with this video.
Thanks friend... use the right bottle shape, tilt towards the half risen sun or half set sun. Good luck.
The people who gave it a thumbs down are the same ones who want egg in their beer! 😎👍
Hi David. I used your fire roll technique and used sigarette butts and sigarette ashes. It took just as quick to ignite. Thank you for opening this new window of possibilities to my hobby.
I am 70 years old and this is all new for me . Where the heck have you been all my life.the only thing I can say is thank you thank you very much Ron
Ron Nye Video it on your cell phone or camera and upload it to UA-cam.
I've learned a new skill with the use of ashes. Thanks Mr. West.
Thanks Jack!
You're like a fire magician. Love all your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you!
Another creative pyromaniac!Love it.I was banned from having matches at the ripe old age of four but all that did was make me more curious as to other ways of making the magic of fire.Stood me in good stead for my subsequent love of camping,hiking and just getting off into the woods.I've experimented with many methods but never come across the ash enhancement before.Will definitely be giving this one a go-so simple and effective.Thanks for taking the time to share this and will have to check out the rest of your channel.Cheers from snowy Scotland.
Thanks Alistair! You are welcome here anytime.
All your techniques for creating fire really blew me away - Amazing stuff! Thanks for sharing this with the world...
You just improved my outdoor skills considerably. Thanks!
Thanks Keith!
The Phoenix is real! Great video!
This is so cool. love learning another way to start a fire! When I was around 7, I learned a magnifying glass could start a fire. We had "campfires" every day for that summer lol
The ash is a great help. Thanks
I use the plastic Lenz of my reading glasses.
Found that the wax paper from a BC powder is a great starter too.
Coming from someone very experienced thank you sir great tip well beyond what so many channels offer!!!
Too kind... Thank you!
Did some google searches to see if there's anything interesting chemistry-wise in straw ash. (As opposed to just wood ash. Most of the fire examples use straw as a tinder, so it's likely being collected from that.) It seems straw ash is somewhat high in potassium oxide related compounds, perhaps that's why it's quite useful for this purpose.
Oxidizers are present in all of the best fillers... ash, rust, bleach, etc
This is so cool David.Everytime I see one of your videos that is new to me I click on it right away.If I hadn't seen and tried some of these ideas I would have never believed it.I'm from Mississippi and love camping and teaching kids about how to do things that could save lives and make life a little better for them selves and others.I would say that I am a # 1 fan and thanks so much for the knowledge you share.
Ricky Denmark Thanks Ricky. I appreciate that.
Thank you.
Very good lesson.
I hope i never need to remember this lesson. But you never know !!!
Another awesome lesson David - in fact several lessons in one as usual. Taking notes!
Thanks again!
Great Job! I was impressed a year or so back when I first saw you, I saw the tinder roll video, you told me you had many more vids, just now gettin round to viewing a few. Thanks
I have tried the wine bottle several times (omg how many hours, many attempts since December). You can just let the bottle stand in one place, find the focal point on the back of the bottle, test it with a finger if it is burning into your skin...but you make very small adjustments horizontally, turning the bottle, to get the HOTTEST focal point you can get. That really makes a difference. I always used a clear glass wine bottle with labels still on. Thanks for all the info though...couldn't have done without it probably...or would take until summer til I finally would get it.
Very useful tutorials!
I found you on practical self reliance blog talking about uses of ashes.
I subscribed to your channel, great knowledge!
Awesome, thank you!
Impressive. Seriously. Thanks for sharing this knowledge.
Now, you can make coal extender, often, any time you want.
I'm fairly new to your videos but you have gave me a whole new outlook on fire making and ash.
ric cartwright Thank You!
That's very useful information. I'll have to try it out!
I really appreciate all what you have been sharing with us, David. Kind regards from Chile,
Rodrigo Ramos Vargas Thanks Rodrigo! I appreciate it!
Cowabunga mate. The best I've seen. Greetings from Australia.
Greetings friend!
Another great video. They should name you the ICEMAN LOL. You’re always so calm, cool and collected. You never panic as if you know you have all the time in the world to.get that fire started. If I’m ever in a spot, I hope you’ll be there. On second thought the MAGICIAN.
Thank you. The years of practice has developed confidence and knowing.
That is really cool. I've never been able to get a bottle of any kind to work for solar ignition. I'm really curious about what those ashes are actually doing that helps so much. There's obviously something going on here that I don't understand.
You need this shape of bottle, Tilting the bottle towards the afternoon sun is counter intuitive. It works for many of the same reasons that a fire roll works. Here's the explanation I give to people that want to know why, I think, the cotton and ashes fire roll works...
I cant tell you about the chemical reactions. I can tell you what I know about ashes. They make a Hand Drill spindle 3 times more grippable, they allow the top and bottom boards to grip the roll well enough to compact it enough to drive it, any tinder impregnated with ashes will become a super coal extender (search my channel for ash, coal extender), ashes insulate... So, I'm thinking that the fibers coated in ash are forced to rub against each other creating INTENSE heat, all the while this intense heat can't escape because of the insulating properties of the ash so it gets even hotter, until finally the distressed fibers allow a pathway for all that heat to make its way from the center to the outer fibers and the air that it is so desperately starving for. PLEASE check out my... How to fire roll video. Thanks!
I just checked out "How to Fire Roll". What a great demonstration. I gave the fire roll a half-hearted attempt a couple of years ago, but I think you've inspired me to start playing with it again. I really appreciated when you mentioned that you disagreed with things that you had said in previous videos and that your way wasn't necessarily the right way. What a great approach to instruction. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with us.
I'm still intrigued by the idea of ashes as a tinder booster too, so I'll be checking out those videos next.
Thanks!
Very educational mr. West.. Thank You for the lesson
I was just wondering if using ashes on a drill set would make building an ember easier. Has it ever been tried? As soon as I start practicing making fires I am going to try just that. Simply amazing how well ash works to facilitate getting an ember on materials like that.
That's the most common question I get. It has never worked for me.
Excellent info, Thank you for Sharing David. UA-cam needs more content like this, ie useful knowledge instead of yaking B.S..
Very kind of you. TY!
Thanks, I learned something new today :) I'll be sure to pass this knowledge on.
I know im asking the wrong place but does someone know of a way to log back into an Instagram account??
I was dumb forgot my login password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
i am learning alot from you, sir. thanks for sharing your skills.
I finally get what they ment by saying you get flames from the ashes
i've taken many university courses as a science major, your data merits a book publishing
his knowledge is based off of the rutiger fire roll method. per wiki, this method of making fire was first observed during WW2 at a prisoner of war camp. i dont know how/why the ash plays a part in aiding fire ignition. maybe there is some info on the web about it. im guessing it adds an extra chemical reaction component to assist with it, just its just a hypothesis.
prelim search didnt turn up anything, however im under the impression that since ash contains CaO , calcium oxide, AND ive seen the same method used in starting fire using rust, iron oxide, instead of ash. that metal oxides obviously assist in the ignition thereof.
@@Gizziiusa
Ash provides mechanical friction to generate heat.
Ash impregnated cotton cloth rolled between two flat boards ignites the rolled cloth....
@@charlesmichaels6648 This could very well be the case, but if you watch other videos this channel has, then it becomes obvious there is more going on than ash simply being a "aid providing mechanical friction". here is one link to help you understand what im trying to say. i think there is a chemical reaction component going on
ua-cam.com/video/K66ehpT_Orc/v-deo.html
Thank you so much, sir. Gems of knowledge.
Precious compliment.
Great informative video. Just goes to show how some forest fires start with dumped bottles in the dry grass.
I know... seems like there would be more.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl Thanks for your great videos I have polished up a soda can by using toothpaste. It works but takes a long time. The cotton cloth and rust fire rolls, I shall have to try that for myself and also completely impregnated with ash. Thank you for your kind reply and I wish you great success.
@@PhilipWright-pw3192 I hope you'll get some Blue Magic Metal Polish from any auto parts store. Your can needs to be much shinier.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl Yes, I shall try that,
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl Hello David, I purchased a tube of Chrome & Aluminum paste by Sonax, and what I have acheived is just amazing. I have polished the base of this can and it looks much better than a mirror. So yes, the time and effort has been well spent, and with a focal length of approximately 9 to 10 mm the results are incredible.
Thnkx David west ! Very good , good job I want to try it now I just need ashes is it any ashes from how old or new ashes. Thanks
Any ashes, see my ashed tinder playlist.
Nice man,very informative,I can do it but not that well,I need to learn and practice more solar ignition,I see now I'm gonna need some more ashes,thanks for sharing bud
Protect your eyes. Seems lately the part of the video where i hold the sunglasses up to the camera and tell people to wear sunglasses for solar experiments... keeps getting cut out.
David West yeah I didn't wear them at one point and man my eyes burnt all day lol I learned my lesson after that lol
Ron again can t wait to try all this out
Good job sir!
Hello David excellent vids. Thank you. Does it have tot be hardwoord ash of doesn't matter what ash it is.?? Thanks
Any wood ash works.
That's some pretty cool stuff to know. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you!
Excellent!
I like that. Now I want to try ash soaked cotton with flint and steel. Will it work like char cloth?
Gonagain I hope it works for you. I couldn't make it happen. Let me know.
Learn something new every day!
You're growing. Thanks!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks for dropping by Becky!
Eu gosto dos seus vídeos 😻🌄
Obrigada
🙏🇧🇷🙏
I have plenty of ash, looks like I know what I'm doing this weekend!!!
It's like a slow char cloth. Thanks!
Amazing(!), thank you very much for sharing your knowledge...
Thank you!
Wonder why the ash works my theory would be that the ash is hydroscopic therefore makes the tinder that little bit drier. Also burning is a chemical reaction and ash is just mixed metal salts perhaps it acts as a catalyst for the oxidation reaction. Another possibility is the ash could convert Nitrogen compounds in tiny quantities to potassium nitrate and thus oxygenate the tinder very briefly and microscopically. Though I think the Hydroscopic effect is most likely. If that is so then the ash would act best fresh and stored in a sealed container like you do.
Hygroscopic is the spelling I'm finding on Google. My guess is... the ash doesn't allow much heat out while allowing much oxygen in. This effect has been happening all throughout eternity and nobody's ever noticed it. Look at how little char and unburned fuel is left in campfires that are allowed to burn out. Look at the ratio of wood mass in, to ashes out... a 1000 to 1 perhaps?. I think the effect of ashes on fuel/coals is what accounts for such complete burns.
Excellent instruction! *****, Respect.
Great Video!
Your Videos are awesome!!
could you do the same experiments, but instead of using ash ... use powdered rust ? i saw a person use rust instead of ash with his rutiger fire roll and the results were the same.
I know. I've been meaning to get around to trying all the fire roll fillers... rust, cayenne pepper, Comet (Danger!!!)... I bet they'll all turn tinders into coal extenders.
awesome, as usual. So could ashed tinders be used as a char cloth substitute? Like could you hit it with a spark and go to town?
20p65s I know right? That's the first question I thought of too when I saw what was going on with ashed tinder. I broke out the flint and steel and tried but no ignitions. It still may work if someone tries flint and steel with a very sharp flint. In my trials, I wasn't exactly casting the biggest nor hottest of sparks. How great would that be if their were some ashed tinders that would work. Thanks!
David, is it the phosphorus in the ashes along with magnesium traces that cause the enhancement for your methods used in this and other videos?
Julian Dorrell I don't know why it works chemically.
I suspect the ash works as an insulator, holding the heat longer before dispersing, allowing it to build up faster. I think it also plays a physical role in the formation of an ember. An ember works much like a gas lantern; the ash on the surface is like the mantle serving as a barrier between gas and oxygen and a heated reaction matrix where combustion makes place. Normally when something is ignited an amount of material must be turned to ash before an ember will form which requires energy. By adding ash, you save the energy required to create the mantle for your ember.
It's the gnome turd residue
they say lighting ANY fire ontop of ashes (perhaps from previous fire) insulates and stops cold drawing from the initial start up
Amazing 🤩
Thanks DK!
Someone just left a comment complaining about how I pronounce fresnel. LOL! I don't go around correcting all those people that pronounce the silent s in fresnel... here's the 2 correct pronunciations... ua-cam.com/video/GY4Wnop9z9w/v-deo.html
Hands down confused as 2 why you dont have 300k+ subs ?!?!
I don't understand it either. The quality of content, length of videos, quality of video, David's voice, the constant uploading of new videos deserves a much larger subscriber base.
You are the fire Dr
Thankyou!
Great stuff sir
Fire grandpa...😁😁 All about fire technologi
Alright David, I'm going to try lighting a piece of cotton cloth with and without wood ashes.
It wont happen without. That's the whole point. Goodluck!
just amazing , thank you
Thank You Very much.
Good to know..Thank You. .
Ahhh, Duplin my fav :-)
Muscadine wine. Hatteras Red. A bottle lasts me 3 months. I sip it for occasional indigestion.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl All of their selection is good but I usually look for the Scuppernong or Muscadine Cool. I usually have some if I want to unwind from a tough day but one bottle will last me for quite a while as well here near Southport NC
you would make Prometheus envious!!
Would it help to add ashes to a fire board for bow or hand drill?
It didn't for me.
thanks
Awesome! Thanks! :)
Thanks!
That was awesome
yo are the ultimate fire man... can we substitute ash with say powder from cowboy coal?
?
Do you think this will work with an empty Bottle too?
No. The shape of the bottle makes the water into a lens.
Can u ash blue jeans before you turn it into char cloth?
It didn't work when I tried it. Denim char cloth doesn't need any help.
David have you tried the water bottle without the water?
No, I don't think it would work. It's the water that's doing the photon concentration. The bottle is just holding the water in the right shape to do that.
.@@DavidWestBgood2ppl Thanks. I watch a lot of your videos, they're all great.
I am speechless.
Then there is a real chance that a forgotten/dumped glass bottle can start a fire!
I thought that this is a myth....😱
See my solar playlist.
true that
you CAN teach an old dog new tricks.
Try powder from incense sticks!
You da man!
Wine Bottle Solar Ignitions... Think about the path of the focused protons. I angle the bottle towards the Sun, the photons pass through the arched convex glass, through 6" of water, and back out through some arched concave glass. This is the best focal point to use with these shapes of bottles... Then look how quickly the ashed tinder ignites and how quickly it grows a self sustaining ember. The 3 tinders that I saturate with ash are grass, pine needles and cotton terry cloth fabric.... Please SUBSCRIBE at the ed of the video.
SEE HOW LONG TINDERS TAKE TO SOLAR IGNITE W/O ASHES:
Hands Free Solar Ignitions, Wallet Fresnel Lens and Concave Mirror
ua-cam.com/video/cjLQmfeYwD4/v-deo.html
Wallet Fresnel Lens... It's the easiest piece of my EDC to carry.
ua-cam.com/video/dcfIAwJOjR4/v-deo.html
EDC, Wallet Fresnel Lens, Ferro Rod, and BIC
ua-cam.com/video/dFcmL5iF_kY/v-deo.html
8 Favorite Fire Making Techniques... Tulip Poplar Tinder Bundles
ua-cam.com/video/_AYuwi6f4zM/v-deo.html
Solar Ignitions... Homemade Water Lens, Flower Vase, Ziplock Bag Of Water
ua-cam.com/video/h91fVOfT6cA/v-deo.html
Would you use ashes on char cloth?
Marc Redgate I've tried ashes on poorly charred char cloth hoping to make it catch sparks better. The experiment was inconclusive.
Duplin wine, you from NC?
No, Upstate SC, love their Muscadine wine.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl You have a very logical brain and a relatable way of showing the topic. You should have been a teacher.
How did you discover this
me Yo Igniting failed fire rolls.
Get a small Lupe. We all played a lot with it a small 3rd grader. Burned paper, leaves and clothes.
LOL!
What the ash is for?
Sun Shine Somehow it makes it work.
Who would have ever guessed that ashes, completely fireproof, would aid in starting a fire! Who discovered this and how did they do it? Was it an ash covered fireman rolling down a hill till his underwear catches alight? Maybe not.
I did, when i noticed that an ignited ash and cotton fire roll, if allowed to just sit there, will completely burn to ash... plain cotton won't do that.
Check out my Ashed Tinder Playlist.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl You were the first i encountered that spoke about this, and the only one to do it on youtube.
Makes me worry a bit about bottles laying around the forests....
Bottles with clear water in them, with the right tilt and orientation to the Sun, in close enough proximity to tinder, and then worse case... that tinder's ability to ignite large amounts of fuel wood.
insulation
You ever use a laser??
No.
He soaks all his tinder in kerosene
what I learned?... Impregnate with ashes....
Let me know when you try it.
This reminded me of the old science demonstration where you try to set a sugar cube on fire. Without ashes it just melts when you put the flame to it, but rub it with wood ashes first and it will light up. Apparently the ashes work as a catalyst to lower the ignition temperature.
I have been wondering how the ashes assist with ignition. I have never seen the sugar cube experiment but your explanation that ashes lower ignition point makes sense.
Thanks