6 String Vs 7 String Strandberg: They're NOT The Same
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
- Episode 3 of The Strandberg Experiment. Discussion of Boden Nx 7 True Temperament Vs Boden Fusion HSH from 2019.
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0:00 Intro
1:20 about the tones…
1:40 Issue 1
3:20 Neck Specs
3:40 Issue 2
5:10 Rant
5:55 7 String Necks
7:40 Redesigned Heel Joint
8:05 Issue 3
10:44 other new Designs
11:00 My 2nd favorite new feature
12:35 likes and dislikes
13:02 true temperament
Still refining the new camera gear. Thanks for your patience.
I only subconsciously noticed that somehow looked 'newer', but yeah, looks great now
What was the upgrade? Just curious
@@x3a3x3 From Lumix g7 to a sony zv10 with a sigma lens. I could get more quality out of it, but I don't have enough hard drive space to edit 4k videos.
@@andrefludd your vids are fine as they are mate, most of us watch you on a phone or tablet anyway…
Great video!
Your attention to detail makes your reviews stand out among many.
This channel will go far!
I appreciate that man! I thought the same thing when I saw your first Chapman video back in the day.
I agree. I really like the sound of the chambered models, especially the prog series for most of the music im tryna do. But the lesser amount of weight potentially making the guitar fall over is an issue i would have never considered. Its definitely gonna make me do some kind of comfort test for myself regarding that aspect. Cheers
This is quickly becoming my favorite guitar channel on YT, your analytical approach is very insightful.
Thank you :)
I really love this channel. I know there’s no way that UA-cam is paying for these guitars and you’re likely trading guitars constantly. I really appreciate your constant strive for honesty and the thoroughness of your reviews. You also go over things that most other people don’t even bother with because you know your stuff.
Overall I’m going to start commenting on every new video because I really want to help you succeed on UA-cam! Best of luck!
Nope, UA-cam can’t even pay for my groceries 😂. But I’m gambling on myself. I appreciate you trying to help it pay off.
@@andrefludd gotta boost you in the algorithm! I play in a couple bands and made a channel under a different name so I completely get the struggle. But it’s the passion that we strive for!
Anyway, I hope to see you hit 100k subs soon!
PS: I love the guitar lesson series too!
Great point on the neck dive issue. Appreciate your honest reviews!
Love this channel. If im gonna drop $4k on a guitar I want someone like this to review it. Cant believe the quality here
Thank you, Andre. I'm loving this first "The Experiment" series, the concept is a great idea - a deep, deep, deep, deep dive into discovering all the nuances, good and bad, that a guitarist may and definitely will come across after extensive playing of a particular guitar. I love it.
Glad you enjoy it!
Dude, your videos are so good. Love how deep you get with real daily issues with guitars.
I appreciate that thank you!
Thank you for going into real depth about the pros and cons of your new axe. I just subscribed so that I can be notified when the new videos drop. Keep up the good work! 👍🏽👍🏽
Awesome, thank you!
Another great vid brother! Thanks for your hard work!
Thank you :)
Ah man, I love your videos, u talk of all the details ‘bout the guitar itself, from the comfort things to the sound (really everything). I really find your videos one of the most enjoyable ones out there! If I just wanna chill and watch some guitar related videos I go on your channel and pick one randomly, ‘cause I know I’ll like it. Keep going this good work ;) cheers from Italy !
Italy is one of only two countries I've been to outside of the US. Loved it! Thanks for supporting.
There are lots of channels out there that will tell you how a guitar sounds, but these videos are great because you deep dive into how a guitar functions in its feel. The way it rests on a leg, how it balances, the feel of a cutaway or how the neck would physically fill a person's hand. This is all vital information when choosing a guitar in the increasingly "buy before try" world of online retail.
When I watch one of your videos I get a sense of how it would physically feel to hold this guitar, the comfort it may have or lack in very specific areas on the body or the neck. Not just cursory glances at these aspects but in depth look that informs. It's all crucial information to know before buying something like a guitar.
glad I could help! I appreciate you watching and leaving a comment in support. It really means the world.
Okay, okay, so tons of tubers out there not covering the "things you can improve" aspects, and sometimes that feels like a lie of omission. Glad that you go into these kinds of details, it is truly and wildly objective compared to most other reviews out there in the market! If I'm going to spend a chunk of money, I'm betting on your reviews to help me purchase wisely!
Saturday morning uploads (Australia) from the doc are an instant watch. You're killing it, this is your year brother.
Your lips to gods ears. Haha thanks for the support.
One year later...
So was it....??
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these videos are perfect for people like me on the fence, thank you so much dude
Glad you are enjoying them :)
Your reviews are great brotha! Please keep it up
Thanks! Will do!
thank you, great review !
@andrefludd - I appreciate your focus on feature details for Strandberg and all guitars! One tip I've learned from the Kiesel guys to address your often raised peeve of the protruding sharp string tips at the headpiece: Pull a new string thru so it's taut, cut it as close as possible, and then pull the string back until the tip is retracted so it's no longer protruding; then tighten the screw, and tune. I really wish that Strandberg would eventually introduce a smaller headpiece like the Steinbergers and Kiesels (w/Hipshot trem).
really looking forward to your opinion on the True Temperament frets.
thanks for the review
Thanks! I wanted to have that today, but all the testing, ABing, and editing is taking really long.
Good job on this video! I highly recommend a prs se 7 standard scale guitar! I love mine because of the 25 inch scale! It’s so comfortable for a 7 and the neck is thick but not too wide! It might be what your looking for!
Thank you for the very informative content! Subscribed! :)
I appreciate it :)
I’m so relieved to hear your experience with the sharp nut. I thought I was just the worst player. I’m in now way technically proficient , but I agree the design was flawed on the string locks. Thanks doc for your content.
Never blame yourself for an instrument under performing! Thanks for supporting.
Thank you for the in-depth critical analysis. You’re really helping temper my GAS on getting one of these right now.
My pleasure :)
Euge Valovirta channel help to find my sound quickly, no waste of money and I have no pedals laying around gathering dust. He killed my G.A.S. problem.
I love my Strandberg Per Nilsson Signature Singularity True Temperament!
It's a beautiful guitar for sure.
Great follow up video and fair criticisms. I've excited to see part 4. Did you find the hardtail easier to intonate than the floating bridge?
100%. Especially with the tool. But to be honest, even the floating bridge wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be.
Interesting stuff, keep it up.
Will do!
Great video! As a Strandberg enthusiast (and a long-time Parker player before that!) whose main guitar is a 6-string Boden Prog Neck-Thru, I've been really enjoying watching your Strandberg Experiment series and seeing all of your thoughts on your Fusion. I had actually considered getting that exact model when I bought my Prog because I loved that teal finish so much, but ended up going with the Prog because I wanted something with an HH configuration (since middle pickups tend to get in the way of my picking). This video was really interesting because I had also considered picking up that exact 7-string TT model, but I decided against it because at the end of the day I just can't get past the bolt-on neck construction. I'm surprised to hear you say that the neck joint is one of your favorite things about the 7-string considering that the other guitar you've been playing is a neck-thru! Do you feel like the upper-fret access is just as good as what you've got on the Fusion, or were you comparing it to other bolt-on Strandbergs that you've played?
I was def comparing it to the older bolt ons. This neck joint is far superior. Compared to the fusion, the access is pretty much equal, but I always pay extra for a neck thru. Not so much for the access but more so because it’s 2% more comfortable and 1,000% prettier imo haha. Thanks for the support.
I've owned 8 different strandbergs over the years. 2 of them had the first fret actually lift up off of the fretboard. Both were models on the low end for them (standard and classic) but both times Strandberg customer service fixed the issue at no charge and were fairly quick about the repairs too. I will say their customer support is excellent in my experience.
That is a plus for sure!
I picked up a Strandberg Fusion NX last year and it's my most favorite guitar EVER for every reason. Amazing guitar.
Def a great guitar!
Interesting timing, as I just got a factory-refurb Strandberg a week ago! I will say that I've been unable to re-produce the "balancing on one leg by itself classical style" move you did on your 6-string without a little help from the right arm and/or some leg crossing, but that's not a huge issue. It's also the semi-hollow model, so the body is lighter than most.
Overall I'm totally delighted with it, but it's great to hear you take on things. :)
Thanks for sharing. Yea, I do need a little right arm weight to hold it in place but it doesn’t take much. Maybe I just got super lucky with this one. I did also see in the comments a few people say things similar to what you said
Thank you for keeping things honest!
Thank you for supporting!
For the fret sprouting my tech explained to me that’s something that happened when guitars are mad at a “factory” or place they can pump them out faster. It’s is something a tech can file down, had it done on mine. Great video as always.
Yea. My guy is taking care of mine as we speak. Thanks for the support :)
We reviewed the boden HSS and gave it high rating but did point out the fret sprout issue. It did, however, play supremely well and am not getting the hardtail Metal 6 String version in white with Fishman Fluence Moderns. May go for the T style or the Fusion in the future.
I have the Boden Metal 7 (pre NX) and you mentioned 2 points that I agree on: a little more weight on the body would be nice so that the guitar doesn’t move as much while heavy down picking and I’d be very interested in the new neck joint. But that doesn’t justify another purchase for me.
Never had any issues with the fret ends, but bumped into the sharp locking nut a few times. I actually never touched the open string ends.
However, sometimes the thinner strings jump on tiny grooves in the 0 fret. Then there is this little plingy sound while bending the string.
For my sitting position (classical style) the guitar rests with the bridge on my right lap. So the contour on that part doesn’t do anything for me.
The fret leveling is perfect in my opinion. The guitar plays itself. I’d love to have the tool, because tuning the low B string is really tough sometimes. I tried using machine oil on the tuner, but it didn’t improve.
Thanks for sharing your opinions!
Thanks for your comment! I’m trying to get an idea of how the old 7 strings balance
I have the same "issue" with the "neck dive" of Strandberg Boden guitars with more than 6 strings, especially the 8 string version. One potential fix is, to add some weights to the electronic compartment to make the body heavier on that side to balance out the heavier neck.
Just started practicing c major scale. Really enjoying your videos. Reminds me how little I know😂
You got this!
Again very informative! You are right about the square corner issue - it should be rounded off and it’s a surprising oversight by an otherwise very attentive company.
My Sälen balances nicely. But then it’s a six-string guitar.
Yep so does my 6 string!
Looking forward to your Strandberg TT veiws.I had a 22 fret 6 string TT neck with a Evertune bridge guitar at 1 time.Weight was Heavy.Wish I still had it.Asked Strandberg in Cal.if they could offer a build with a TT neck with trem.They said that probably won't be happening.Strandberg's communication with customers is excellent.I will say playing chords on a TT neck Will spoil your ears.Up and down the neck.Thanks again for doing the Deep Dives on these.Haven't seen any-one even come close to covering as much as your videos.. 👍💯
My pleasure :)
The nx bolt on neck joint really is a work of art. As for the string issue the new clampy thing at the missing headstock end is designed to use a pair of diagonal cutters to cut the strings flush with it.
I used diagonal cutters with it. Didn’t really do much for the high strings
@@andrefludd that is strange.
Just got a Strandberg Boden Nx8 myself, just 2 weeks ago. And after 2 weeks of playing it, I'm seriously considering selling all my other 8 strings now!
I can't balance it either, the way you couldn't with your NX7. But still in that position, the neck is so smooth, and the rest of the guitar so light that my thumb on the trapezoidal works like a linear guide, and makes moving around on the neck very easy - like too easy almost!
And the sound!! Especially on the 7 -8 string, this massive humpf-ding sounds, which i can't reproduce on either my Ibanez, or ESP - even though my Ibanez also has Fishy's Moderns.
Overall it's become my favourite instrument in my collection.
I totally get it. I still love my 6 string.
I'm leaving a comment instead of thumbs up! I'm into automotive Mechanics and i like the later years of a model.....because of all the little things that are upgraded over time.... i still love my first year model production.
Look forward to the true temperament video! Great series! I suppose besides the sharp edge and string ends, the fret issue could be solved by some filing work and the neck dive by placing some weight discs inside the cavities. Would you ever do that?
I’m def going to do that as a form of testing. If I like the results and if I can adapt to this 7 string neck, then it may still be a keeper.
Yeah, but it would be pretty annoying to me to have to do that to a $3800 new guitar.
What an interesting review. I have a Boden Metal NX7 and honestly, the heel joint is the most annoying thing is the guitar for me. I dont find it comfortable enough, I dont have big hands so it just gets in the way of my thumb and I will need to strech it, or place my thumb on top of the joint, which is a weird position to play. I also owned an ESP Horizon E-II and the it being one solid piece has the best access I've seen.
Thank you for making this video, and as always thank you for all the trouble you go to to carefully explain your opinions. I think it's important for guitar companies to have proper feedback from the customer. Especially when a brand has a particularly elitist feeling on social media. I by no means dislike Strandberg and am totally in love with my guitar from them. I do however think they should sponsor some guitarists who are not virtuoso players. Abd this comes from a fan of prog and metal. Anyway, I do hope as they grow there will be more styles of guitarists welcomed .
This was really helpful and I will need to check out your review of the 6 string model too.
Thanks again :)
Really digging my new Fusion NX so far. Haven‘t touched any of my others for more than 10 minutes sinces. You kind of get used to the weight. If you switch guitars, it‘s mindblowing everytime again (have a super light Custom Shop LP 59 as well as a hand made one, both are around 3.7kg and a super beefy Explorer).
100%
Your comments about fret sprout not being a reported issue by other youtubers is spot on. I've never seen anything, and yet, my 2021 Boden Original 8 string had terrible fret sprout. It wasnt too bad to begin with but over time got worse and worse. Worst fret experience of my life. I have a 2018/2019 Boden 6 standard that has been nothing short of an amazing instrument.
Since I made that video, I'm getting a bunch of people saying the exact same thing as you. Hopefully it gets back to Ola or someone else in the company so they can work on it.
This again really hits on the issue i have with buying a Strandberg (in my case, bass). Their Boden Basses are around 3300$US, and how can I justify paying that for a mass produced bass with (likely) fret sprout when I can get basses hand built by smaller mfgers like Maruszczyk or Atelier Z, or Sago, or Tom Clement or, etc etc etc. made to my specs for roughly the same price?
It's a real bummer because I really enjoy their design philosophy, the endurneck, headless instruments, and fanned frets and all that.
That is a really high price. At least for the guitars they have models under 1,500.
I ❤this guy. Killer review!!
Thank you!
I recently played an ormsby headless multiscale it was a great guitar overall, but , in the guitar store I was having a hard time keeping it in tune ,, still was a great sounding great playing guitar,, it didn't seem to have any comfort problems with the string lock end as far as I can tell. It's possible if I bought it might be tweakable into perfect. My thoughts were the tuning problem was the store had it down tuned. On my personal bucket list is an old school composite construction Steinberger or a Steve Klein guitar , also just wanted to say I'm glad you're still digging the Parker over every other guitar no matter the price
It’s going to take a truly special guitar to replace my Parkers
Thanks for your insights! Really interesting stuff. I’ve had 5 strandbergs in the last few years and have never seen an instance of fret sprout, even through brutal dry NYC winters.
I think the more rounded angles on the endurneck are actually part of the NX design; my older prog has much sharper angles than the smoother curved feeling ones on my NX 6 Fusion. They also just introduced a new signature model that has smoother angles as a feature.
Interesting observation about the neck/body weight. My only 7 string is a standard model which isn’t chambered and it sits and balances perfectly, just like my 6 string models.
It might just be that the new 7 strings balance less. I’m getting a pretty diverse set of responses when it comes to balance. Thanks for sharing.
@@andrefludd also be gentle with that tool. They’re super flimsy and the bits break out of the housing. I use the tool kit for regular maintenance and the magnet tool when I’m on gigs.
Hi Andre! I think that I would be more inclined to try your other Strandberg over this one. The thing that I'm most curious about this one is of course, "the elephant in the room". I'm looking forward to the next episode.
Cheers man! ✌
The next episode is going to be a big one.
I totally get the issue with the sharp right angle on the locking mechanism. I had the same problem on my Floyd rose Jackson with the locking nut. It's really sharp and during my first few weeks of playing it I bumped into it all the time, but now that I've had it for almost 2 years I can't remember the last time I bumped into it.
Yea. When I played Floyds I noticed it too but the Floyd’s locking nut is at-least pretty short. This one is comparably tall. Makes it worse imo.
Thanks very much for your detailed analysis. This is extremely well done. Since the quickly falling neck is a deal breaker for you, I don’t understand why you don’t use the Performaxe. I understand that you feel you shouldn’t need to use one in an expensive ergonomic guitar, but since you’re having this problem, will the Performaxe rectify this? Does it not fit on the Strandberg body?
Hey Will, thanks for your question. The performaxe will fit the body, but if I'm using the performaxe I just see no point in buying a Strandberg. The performaxe will give me more flexibility in terms of the posture I can take, yes.
Great review, love the detail as always. I have an Standard NX 7 and was torn between that and the Original NX 7, but couldn't justify the price difference just for chambering and fancier pickups. Looks like the solidbody attribute may have been a plus! It's only a few ounces of difference fwiw.
Do you have any neck dive?
@@andrefludd I happen to also have a Prog 6 and would say that it is better balanced than the Standard 7, even with the prog having a chambered body and Standard being solidbody.
I think it's probably related to where the fulcrum is on the guitar. Since the neck sticks out further from the fulcrum, increased neck weight seems to still be noticeable even if the body is a few ounces heavier.
I enjoy your attention to detail and all the things that experienced guitarists find annoying, particularly in expensive instruments. New guitarists should pay attention, because as time goes on, these things you hadn't noticed before may turn out to be real problems. I've resorted to modifying my guitars to fix these things that Guitar Makers really should have solved long ago. I think guitars should have Push/Push Pots, instead of Push/Pull Pots which are much more difficult to grab when you only have a split second to change a setting.
Yes! I HATE push pull pots. And the more expensive companies thinking having a stiffer, harder to pull push pull is somehow better. It’s worse!! Impossible to grab quickly
I thought the ball end of the strings went on the headstock side but I guess that’s another headless guitar.
Ergonomics are the first thing I look for so I appreciate your focus on that
Yea that’s a different guitar for sure. That’s for your support
If you’re interested in test driving nice 7 strings, the Jason Richardson Music Man 7 in Buckeye Burl has an amazing neck.
Gotta agree with @Gabriel R comment on this becoming one of my favorite guitar channels! Andre I absolutely love that you’re going into such detail about your experiences with different guitars. Not only that but you’re doing this on YOUR dime! 🤯 Brave man! I was really looking into inquiring if Strandberg could do a custom lefty for me but honestly the issues you brought to light would absolutely bother me at this point in time. I love your channel man!
I agree, let's help him blow up in 23!
You all are too kind. But as you alluded to, I am taking a huge gamble on myself in 2023. My basement is full of guitars I’m having a hard time reselling, and so far my UA-cam profits can’t even cover my grocery bill let alone these guitars 😂. Either this channel blows up by summer 2024, or I go down swinging.
@@andrefludd just a thought but possibly partner with some people for help. Just a manager could get u guitars to review. But someone to keep the stick moving in and out without taking up your time, etc. I really want to see u succeed! But have someone move ur stock for 10%. Make as many connections as possible with shops, builders etc. Or hire someone with those connections. Just a thought, but u shouldn't have to stress on getting rid of good stock and getting in fresh guitars. That's maybe not ur vibe and that's cool, not why we're fans cause ur a good salesman
Hey, man. Greetings from Ukraine. Your channel is pure gold for any nerdy modern guitarist, no matter the genre they're playing. Your Srtndberg reviews is definitely the one I wanted to find. With all details possible. We're probably on the same opinion about what a guitar should be (except I'm okay with thin necks). Waiting for a full review of the 7-string cause, maybe, I'll be in the market for a new one later this year, and Starndberg is on my radars, but lots of features - lot of concernes.
P.S. Your contentment is definitely a great thing during blackouts and bombings, find it very calming))
Thank you! I’m glad my videos are providing a little break from life.
Great channel and super interesting! Just subscribed! Do you also think that the Standard NX7 (non chambered), is affected by the neck dive issue? Thanks!
Hey Nick, I honestly couldn’t say. I’ve never played it but no one seems to complain so I assume it is fine.
@@andrefludd many Thanks Andre!!!
I have the same issue of sharp edges on Floyd nuts; since they are easy to replace I round the edges with a file and seal it with a back paint pen. Works well and the nut could be replaced for sale later on. The nut and frets are issues any tech could address, but for the price should that be needed.
If the Strandberg doesnt work out, you might consider the Ibanez QX547. Headless 7 string with slanted frets for easier playing wth the neck at a high angle. I love the 6 string qx52 and the angled frets are something I have been looking for forever.
I talk about this a little in episode 2, but Ibanez headless guitars don’t really interest me. Thanks though!
@@andrefludd Fully understand your lack of interest in the Ibanez headless, it just addresses a few of your strandberg issues. Since Ibanez is the only major brand doing slanted frets (not multiscale) I am doing a bit of fanboi to try and ensure there is a future in it . A bit like trying to find a scalloped fretboard outside a Malmsteen Strat.
Hey Andre if you look at the string locks they are triangles. The hand is contacting the bottom (Fat end) of the triangle at the zero fret on the high E because it kinda sticks out. This doesn’t happen on the low E because the hand is meeting the top of the triangle (the skinny end). Ola needs to simply rearrange the string locks for a smoother transition at the skinny E. I don’t think the blockiness at the low E would interfere with the thumb as much. Does this make any sense?
It does make sense. But I just feel like for a guitar this price, let's have a more cool solution. Maybe it's just me, but having a small magnetic plate that covers that entire area would be really cool.
Great video! I'm eyeing the Salen Jazz personally but it doesn't have the arm contour argh, how frustrating.
That one is beautiful! I want one of them too lol.
Not to disparage other channels but, it’s not often you get gear overviews from someone who really plays. Its what makes your channel great
Hey man, glad to see you again. Thanks for always supporting. Next week there are going to be a lot of videos of me playing. I don’t want people to forget since I talked this entire video lol
I have a true temperament 8 string, do you tune yours like a normal guitar with all open strings or do you tune it the true temperament way with all "A" notes for good intonation, like 5th fret on e-string, 2nd and 14th fret for the g-string, etc.?
I follow the offsets they provide on the site
I'm glad that Strandberg is using Richlite. I would like for more companies to give an option for that or be a standard.
Question regarding your prevous vid on the strandbergs ergonomic curve on the end to hold it like a classical guitar:
Do you think that regular electric guitars should include that as well? It would be nice to see other companies implement something like that just to regular guitar models.
It looks like Abasi guitars have it. Idk how those balance but I would love to see more guitars try that cut. The only thing is, it has to be short enough in the body so that you don’t have to extend your arm too far to reach the frets. the space between the bridge and the end pin has to be reduced like it is on most headless guitars. But a guitar doesn’t need to be headless for that reduction to be useful imo. I’d love to try designing something with someone one day.
Thanks 👍🧔
Thank you!
I've been looking at getting a Strandberg Boden 6-string. Like you and your elbow I have back, neck, and shoulder issues. Lately even my under 6lbs Ibanez S is even getting difficult to hold without problems. I'm still on the fence though. I teach online, and based on your first video some regular bar chords might be awkward to play. I teach mostly beginners, so the approach for the guitar working more for soloing is cool for me personally. Just not sure if it'd be the right fit teaching, which is what I spend most of my time doing. Love these videos, look forward to the rest of the series!
I used to love the old S series when I was a kid. Back when they had a different floating bridge on it. I think that extra weight may have helped it balance. Honestly Austin, I think this is a great guitar for those purposes. You can always give it a try for a few weeks and return it if it isn’t the right fit for you.
The Strandberg store on Reverb sells refurbs for 15% off and comes with a 30 day return period. Also, returning it is easy: just shove it into the heavily padded gig bag, put it back in the form fitting box and mail it back. If you're having back and neck problems, I doubt that you'll return it, though. It is a great help with these issues because your sitting posture will be better.
@@andrefludd I'll keep that in mind, I was looking at a couple on Reverb, and was even able to try one at GC a couple days ago. I noticed playing it was mostly comfortable, but my hand was a bit lost with the frets not being the same scale length on the low and high end. 🤣
@@markuyehara7880 Thanks for the insight, I'll check out their store. I hate buying something on Reverb and returning it if I don't like it. Most people on there are just a regular person like me. So they use the money for something else like bills or buying another guitar once it clears. If Strandberg sells them through Reverb at a discount I can have peace at mind I'm not messing with an individual's bank account.
@@MrAustinMusic I feel the same way. Also, it's nice that if you decide to keep it, the refurbs come with a full factory warranty which is why I ended up buying from their Reverb store.
Let us know how the zero fret works out. Zero frets are notorious for wearing grooves when you bend strings which leads to buzzes and pinging. Kiesel used to use them but they quit because of that issue. In fact they offered to replace the zero fret with a proper nut.
have you tried clipping the strings before locking them? I usually do that, and rarely have strings poking out of the end of the string lock. Although I have a different headless guitar than a strandberg.
subscribed because your awesome!
Thank you :)
Get to the frets! I'm so curious about these frets!
I really wanted to, but the video has so so much editing. I couldn’t finish it in time.
I just got a nx 8 refurbished and i really love it ive onlt had it for about 5 days and i really have no complaints other than a grounding issue which really shocked me but even then i still like how it sounds other than the noise which i feel i can fix but i shouldnt have to for an 1800 dollar guitar even though i only paid 1300 for it
Honestly, if it was from Strandberg or any major dealer, they will fix that for you for free. It’s only been 5 days, def call them up and DON’T pay for it yourself. If you can, shoot me an update. This is good info for the community.
@@andrefludd will definitely follow up. Thanks for the response
@@Anthony43993 Hi there I was wondering did you manage to get in touch with Strandberg?
They do have a responsibility to offer you a proper instrument even if it's refurbished , that's an expensive guitar.
I'm curious because I own a Strandberg guitar myself but have had no issues at all. If you did contact them, I'd love to hear if they were helpful :)!
Thank you so much!
@@Nickshreds890 they ended up giving me instructions to fix a grounding issue with one of the string posts and i was able to get it fixed without sending it back to California pretty quickly
The difference in the chord at the end was eye (ear) opening wow.
Can’t wait for you the see the full video.
@@andrefludd I'm looking forward to it. I only just discovered your channel the past couple weeks and I think your content is excellent. I especially like the annotation text you add when you say something weird and it's something that catches me often lol. I like the sense of humour.
You being an advocate of good, stable trems is also good in a "community" where many seem to give up and want to deck/block/hardtail everything as a solution. Would be cool to see you try something a little bit different in the Virtual Jeff Pro, seeing as you are a amp modelling and trem guy.
Oh wow, the true temperament makes a huge difference! I'm not sure I want to watch your video on it though. With that price tag I might be better off keeping myself in the dark :)
To fix the sharp string ends, just fully screw in the tuners, run the strings, clip them, then pull them back the remaining .5mm or so, then tighten the headpiece down and tune to pitch. You'll have a little less to spare for string stretching but the pokey bits won't poke out anymore.
Yea I discuss this fix in episode 1. I can’t believe you aren’t watching all my videos :(
@andrefludd silly me! I must have forgotten.
I love the content btw! Recently got back into playing seriously and I love the analytical, yet straightforward information you put out. :)
I'll have to go watch Pt1 a second time!
You should try a headless from GOC!
I really wanted the 7 string...but after watching your review my focus is on the 6 string.... i want them to make a Carbon fiber 7 or 8 string. I am focused on Ergoniomics!
The back of the endura neck feels different at every fret. Very slightly. Because of this I notice my hand finds position more naturally without needing to look for the markers as often. This is an advantage I never here mentioned. Maybe just me.
Hmmm I never noticed that but I think it’s a totally valid point. Thanks for sharing
On the neck balancing thing... I think I don't have that problem with my Boden+ NX 8 TT. Probably because it's an 8 string so it does have a bit more weight (2.7 kg).
On the fret sprout thing... I dunno. Maybe I lucked out but it seems on mine the frets are basically cut to perfection! I couldn't be happier.
About the string locks angle. To be honest I only started noticing it now that you have mentioned it... it's not terrible but I agree it could be improved (and I hope Ola does improve it, maybe even offer an aftermarket replacement part so that everyone can benefit?).
I’m happy you got a great one. I’ve heard in the comments now a lot about the frets not being perfect so you lucked out! I don’t think these are bad quality, I just expect more from 3,800
the non-trem 7 string ESP standard series have a 45mm nut might tickle your fancy when it comes to 7 stringers. doesn't feel as wide as the usual 48mm ones
Thanks for sharing!
Is there a big difference regarding comfort between the new neck joint vs neck thru in order to reach the higher frets?
Nope. Very small difference to be honest. I just love the looks of a neck thru.
I get what you mean about the ergonomics. I can forgive the drastic neck-dive in my flying V (also it's pretty light tbf), but balance is part of the charm of ergonomic headless guitars. The level of comfort, like baggy trackpants you lounge around the house in. Just being able to pick it up and play. There are other charms for headless guitar for mes, but the notion of struggling with playing them at any point is antithetical to their ethos for me, too. I expected nothing less than perfect balance from my "ergonomic" headless guitar, even with its chambering (it balances fine, but it is a 6-string to be fair). Anything less should be a dealbreaker, absolutely. It doesn't even sound like the neck-dive is terrible on the Strandberg, but imagine how much worse it is on the 8-string version...
Damn! I never would have considered these items you mentioned in comparison to the 6 string. Too bad they don’t have a 6 string with a longer scale for down tuning
Has the multi tool held up for you? I love the idea of it but I've been through 3 of them and they don't seem to be very durable. For what it's worth, Strandberg replaces them no questions asked but it gets a bit frustrating.
I’ve only used it briefly but I do agree it could be sturdier. I’ve heard others comment on their tools breaking. Honestly, the whole thing could be made from metal pretty easily.
I’ve heard lots about fret sprout on stradberg
I wonder how it compares with the Prog nx7 without those temperment frets
Would you re-neck a guitar with a strandberg shaped neck for comfort. Is it easier to play?
I’ll answer this eventually. Can’t truly say yet.
I really don't see the point in the chambered body for players such as me or yourself, but as far as we can see from social media, Strandberg artist usually play them in the thigh support position or standing up, so I guess the lighter body is made to appeal to them, but that's just my cents on it.
Great video as always Andre!
Really, I feel like if you just added maybe 1 to 1.5lb to the body it would balance. And even then it would still be 6lbs ish. That’s still super light for a 7 string. So yea I tend to agree with you.
For me personally, the main appeal of chambered guitars is sonic/vibrational, vs. ergonomic. They tend to have a certain "air" to them, sonically, that I tend to not hear in solidbodies, and they seem to "breathe" a bit more. That's completely subjective, of course, and I've never a-b'd a chambered vs. solid Strandberg. But my main instruments for the last couple of decades have been USA Reverends, and the chambered construction - and the impact that has on the tone and response - is a huge part of that.
Again, YMMV, two cents, etc.
legit watching this series to decide if I should get either a 6 or 7 string strandberg. Your 7 string criticisms make me think I should stick with the 6 and just appreciate the 7 string solar more
I can already say, just go 6 string.
@@andrefludd appreciate you.
you should try Ernie ball mm majesty, that guitars has always interested me.
I have and they aren’t for me. But def great quality.
Do you think you could add a counter-weight to it for a better balance?
It's hard to say. everything felt weird overall.
I'm loving the flashbacks to "past Andre" in these clips.😁
I am very surprised that the balance is not as good on the 7 as it is on the 6.
Could have been a design choice based upon saving overall weight.
Could just be that that particular body blank was less dense than official spec - wood does vary and all that.
I like the new heel, looks very comfortable - but the string locks could be, and should be, better.
Can you round that off a bit yourself?
I know you should expect perfection on the fret ends, but again - wood is wood and metal is metal - it can and does shift.
As long as a quick sand/file fixes it, I'm OK with that and it should be a basic skill/maintenance thing that most players should have.
I tend to agree with you. BUT, after playing a dozen parkers from the 90s all of which were flawless, 3 vigiers all flawless and one was from 2003, the 2019 Novo, yea. I love Strandberg but I can't stand up for the sharp edges at this price range.
I actually considered getting a strandberg some time ago.. but all these fret issues, locking nut, neck dive, etc. could never come up on a $1500 guitar, let alone a $3k one. Prices increased a lot and the issues are still not fixed
The guitar overall is great for 6 string imo. But the 7 I don’t love just yet
Aside from the neck dive which is only a problem with 7 and 8 strings, these are actually pretty small issues compared to things I've run into on Fenders or Gibsons.
@@louderthangod Ibanez prestige RG652 for example or some premium/prestige AZ models (around 1.8k max where I live), Charvel DK24, Schecter Nick Johnston or Aaron Marshall signature models (although also overpriced imo), just to name a few
i bought a nx6 about a month ago and my only complaint is that out of the 11 guitars i have from all different makes and models it has the roughest fret ends. Not cut your hand bad or anything, but noticeably rougher. Like your other comment I don't even notice it when playing so I didn't feel it was worth complaining about.
This is what I mean! Clearly people have noticed. Idk why no one says it in reviews. I bet Strandberg could fix it.
Yeah man, I have a new guitar that I struggle to find any flaws with, other than exactly that, rough fret ends. I can’t tell if it’s ever so slightly sprouted, or if it’s actually just rough. Though I can see file markings if that’s any indication…
Also, if im knit picking, the lil 59 in the neck has been set slightly crooked in the neck slot. It’s not noticeable, but it bothers me because im weird like that.
I bought mine used so it has a little more where and tear but compared to my charvel and my tele it does have rougher frets but I can’t complain because of how much I love the neck.
My fret ends were pretty good. Not perfect but pretty good. I just had to shave a bit with a fret file at it was great. It took about two minutes. It seems I got lucky?
@@andrefludd for sure, they could roll the edges more like my chapman guitar (uber rolled fret ends) or my jackson, or any of the 3 PRS models I own. Hell, the baritone squire I have has better rolled fret ends, but that said, the strandberg really is just a different animal.
You should check out kiesel. I have an aries 6 string and an aries 7 string and while they are not the same its more similar than my ibanez 6 and 7 string. And my k series 7 string neck is to die for
I’ve had 4 kiesels love them. Check out episode 2 if you get a chance, I discuss it :).
@@andrefludd will do, I'm always on the lookout for guitar nerd channels lol
Andre, they sounded great in the end. Too bad about the 7 string being neck heavy. You would think they would have it more balanced with a heavier body. But how would that affect the tone and likability...? Actually, I liked the sound of the 7 string better. It seemed more dynamic. But the same with my Ormsby and PRS 7 strings. They also sound more dynamic than my 6 string guitars. Maybe it's the pickups.
These pickups are def great. The guitar in general sounds good as you’ll see next week. But the neck dive is really annoying.
With flush cutters you won’t have the string issue. I’d be happy to recommend a pair
I’d like that. Please do, I’ll include it in the update
The only things catching my eye in this video is that Bedford Bob Weir guitar in the background. I want that guitar. Not easy to find in my local GCs…
It's a great instrument. :) I can't wait to play it again after the experiment is done.
@@andrefludd My next guitar is definitely one with p-90s. Have you played a Jazzmaster before? Weighing between the Bedford and a Jazzmaster.
Just to chime in, I just purchased an NX prog used about a month ago. It also has horrible fret sprouting, all up and down the neck and on both side of the neck. It made me wonder...did the neck somehow shrink a little? Anyway, I got the guitar at a really good price, and it's not something that keeps me from playing it, but I thought it was kinda surprising coming from a company like Strandberg. Is there a fix for this? I'm not kidding it's on every single fret hah
There is a fix, but if you are asking, that means you should probably have a tech do it. Stainless steel on a guitar above 1,000 isn’t really the type of thing you want to learn on haha. Very hard to work with and not very forgiving if you aren’t careful. I wouldn’t feel comfortable doing it on mine either to be honest.