From the Vault: The Incredible Lightning Link

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • It took absolutely no persuading to get Brownells Gun Techs™ Keith and Caleb to return to Rock Island Auction Co., and today Keith has..... a machine gun in his pocket. OK, not exactly. But he does have an SWD Ligtning Link Automatic Connector, an dirt-simple device that can turn your ordinary semi-automatic AR-15 into a machine gun, after the successful filing of your Form 1 and $200 check with the ATF. That was before May of 1986, when civilian manufacture of new machine guns became illegal. Just like complete machine guns, existing Lightning Links at the time were grandfathered, and their value has appreciated - to between $10,000 and $15,000. The equivalent value of a complete machine gun for a tiny device made of two pieces of ordinary sheet metal! The good news is a Lightning Link is the ATF-registered part and is not "married" to an individual AR-15. So if you have 10 AR-15s, you can shoot ANY one of them with your Lightning Link. But good luck finding one: only about 900 Lightning Links were made by SWD, Inc., and registered with the ATF. Which may explain why Rock Island's example sold for $18,400!
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  • @kingboom777
    @kingboom777 3 роки тому +3358

    "If you wanna play you gotta pay" mmmh I don't remember reading that in the constitution🤔

    • @GatCat
      @GatCat 3 роки тому +149

      Well put.

    • @seanwieland9763
      @seanwieland9763 3 роки тому +139

      Almost as if the constitution is incapable of protecting our rights. 🤔

    • @jarink1
      @jarink1 3 роки тому +186

      @@seanwieland9763 More like politicians writing un-Constitutional laws are incapable of protecting our rights.

    • @seanwieland9763
      @seanwieland9763 3 роки тому +62

      @@jarink1 If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use is the rule?

    • @Teodede
      @Teodede 3 роки тому +79

      More like Supreme Court Justices failing to do their job to “support and defend the Constitution” when bad actors get elected into Congress. The people are there to check Congress for bad actors and the SCOTUS is there to catch any that slip through.

  • @ClokworkGremlin
    @ClokworkGremlin Рік тому +255

    Based on recent ATF rulings, this entire video itself is considered a machine gun.

    • @chazzmikalmikal
      @chazzmikalmikal 10 місяців тому +4

      UA-cam is a machine gun.

    • @4NaturesStory
      @4NaturesStory 10 місяців тому +5

      Me: “The guys shirt?”
      ATF: “A Machine Gun!”

    • @lanep4322
      @lanep4322 8 місяців тому +1

      LOL!

    • @jamjedi1972
      @jamjedi1972 6 місяців тому

      Damn right lol! Would not put it past them lol

    • @jerrymiller2869
      @jerrymiller2869 3 місяці тому

      A Call to ALL of the 2nd AMENDMENT community. COPY AND PASTE to ALL 2nd AMENDMENT sites.
      The O'BIDEN REGIME is bringing in MILLIONS of Illegal aliens to cause mass civil unrest and CRIME (I believe) to overwhelm Law Enforcement and the people so that they can TAKE OUR GUNS and declare (possibly?) Marshall LAW to PREVENT ELECTIONS-?
      PLEASE SPREAD (COPY AND PASTE) this message and PLEASE give this comment A LIKE !!!! (so I KNOW that you're reading and listening, and I can be encouraged).
      P.S. Parts of this message is "encoded" to protect against algorithms.
      ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
      ̿ ̿̿’̿’\̵͇̿̿\з==(•̪●)==ε/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿

  • @kauboy9816
    @kauboy9816 3 роки тому +1566

    "Just a very expensive piece of sheet metal. And a very sad testament to the way things are now."
    Nuff said.

    • @WeAreSoBackBros
      @WeAreSoBackBros 3 роки тому +20

      @@whitestallion531 it’s because even pro-gun people say defeatist stuff like “oh well full auto isn’t useful” whenever full auto is mentioned or “well I seen dumb people at the range” whenever constitutional carry is mentioned.

    • @nuyabiss
      @nuyabiss 3 роки тому +5

      @@whitestallion531 vicious cycle.

    • @scottshoe842
      @scottshoe842 3 роки тому +2

      That’s a Nuff Said quote?

    • @yamadkiddo8028
      @yamadkiddo8028 2 роки тому

      @aperfectcircle007 florida is a bootlickers paradise. cant even open carry while getting some big macs lmao what a shithole. and yall got ERPO yikes!

    • @Kelly_Rowe
      @Kelly_Rowe 2 роки тому +1

      @@yamadkiddo8028 Maybe not when buying big macs but certainly when fishing/hunting.

  • @randybounds2244
    @randybounds2244 3 роки тому +1273

    Another good reason to get rid of the AFT !

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 3 роки тому +17

      AFT, as Biden called it. Or the real name, ATF.

    • @usernamunavailiable
      @usernamunavailiable 3 роки тому +39

      @@3ducs I think everyone here, except you got it.

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 3 роки тому +7

      @@usernamunavailiable So the error was a parody of Biden's error? Cool.

    • @theeasternfront6436
      @theeasternfront6436 3 роки тому +19

      @@3ducs Yes. Thats how humor works.

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 3 роки тому +3

      @@theeasternfront6436 Gosh, I was unaware of that. Even at 3/4 of a century old one can still learn a thing or two, thanks awfully mate.

  • @Gun_Talk
    @Gun_Talk 3 роки тому +390

    Government is really good at extortion

    • @jaysource8302
      @jaysource8302 3 роки тому +8

      They're so good at it you feel like a bad person when you don't pay them

    • @cbroz7492
      @cbroz7492 3 роки тому +1

      Extortion 1 7...

    • @worldwidereviewst.v699
      @worldwidereviewst.v699 3 роки тому

      tiny hats

    • @jaysource8302
      @jaysource8302 3 роки тому +2

      @@worldwidereviewst.v699 *laughs historically and rubs hands together*

    • @gumps1986
      @gumps1986 3 роки тому +5

      It’s like the mafia but worse

  • @shrimuyopa8117
    @shrimuyopa8117 3 роки тому +494

    That's a strange looking gun. Sure does seem like the BATFE has taken the definition of a firearm to a whole new level.

    • @hidingposer3422
      @hidingposer3422 2 роки тому +16

      A silencer/suppressor is a firearm. NFA firearm but a firearm nonetheless. Yet it does NOTHING without a firearm.

    • @RemoteCamper
      @RemoteCamper 2 роки тому +15

      They once labeled a shoelace as a machinegun.

    • @blasianboomboom2006
      @blasianboomboom2006 2 роки тому +1

      “BATFE”?

    • @howardschlereth9368
      @howardschlereth9368 Рік тому +7

      And now a PICTURE OF IT IS A MMMACHINEGUNN?!?!?!????????🙀👀🙃🤭

    • @howardschlereth9368
      @howardschlereth9368 Рік тому

      An other Tyrannical Faction.

  • @ColburnFreml
    @ColburnFreml 3 роки тому +450

    Thanks ATF for keeping us safe from everyone with tin snips and scrap sheet metal.

    • @frankmondo756
      @frankmondo756 2 роки тому +23

      I believe I would be able to make a mold of those tickets and punch them out at a rate of 3 per minute. Then I can make thousands and throw them out at rallies all over America. Just kidding, that would be wrong.

    • @Kelly_Rowe
      @Kelly_Rowe 2 роки тому

      @@frankmondo756 Did you see what happened to CRSFirearms? ua-cam.com/video/vu6sKcy3_4Q/v-deo.html

    • @frankmondo756
      @frankmondo756 2 роки тому +5

      @@Kelly_Rowe Yes, and I know that joking around with serious issues can get someone, me, into trouble. The only saving grace is that I don't own any firearms, I am real old, and retired with no access to any type of tools to make or manufacture anything.

    • @KevinHuff23
      @KevinHuff23 2 роки тому +6

      @@frankmondo756 If you had a cnc machine and half an hour programming time you could make thousands of these a day

    • @jamesdoesitmatter
      @jamesdoesitmatter Рік тому

      ​@Frank Mondo I got a friend who can help. Couple good websites will ship everything you need to the house then time is all people have.

  • @godlessheathen100
    @godlessheathen100 3 роки тому +539

    Somewhere, in a cubicle devoid of access to a window on the outside world, an AFT agent is meticulously poring over the comments here in the hopes of flagging someone's speech as reasonable suspicion or, they hope, probable cause. Keep chugging along, guy. That next rung on your ladder of bureaucratic success is just one more contrived, unconstitutional NFA charge away.

    • @mantis-mike5882
      @mantis-mike5882 3 роки тому +41

      Yeah that agent will have to arrest more law abiding citizens to climb that unconstitutional ladder

    • @lifegoeson05
      @lifegoeson05 3 роки тому +19

      That’s sadly true

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 3 роки тому +26

      AFT is the American Federation of Teachers, an organization that should also be disbanded, along with the ATF.

    • @drevil2783
      @drevil2783 3 роки тому +3

      True😆😆😆 Next the FBI come looking for me in south africa😆😆😆😆

    • @anonomus1429
      @anonomus1429 3 роки тому +11

      David C just loves the smell of roasted flesh on a beautiful Texas morning.

  • @Kaiya637
    @Kaiya637 Рік тому +46

    Who else is watching this because of the Matt Hoover case?

  • @justinpyle3415
    @justinpyle3415 3 роки тому +256

    all gun laws are infringements.

  • @Ben-wp6lx
    @Ben-wp6lx 3 роки тому +84

    I was gonna get mad when he said "if you wanna play you gotta pay" but then he said it's "a very sad testament to the way things are now.". Thanks Brownells for standing up for the 2A and donating to the Firearms Policy Coalition.

    • @johngalt234
      @johngalt234 10 місяців тому

      It wasn't intended as a _"you should pay to exercise your rights."_ He was stating that, under current statutory law, you have to pay the $200 tax and the premium that a registered machine gun has just for being registered. That is a statement of fact, not opinion. Too often, gun people can't see a difference between the way things should be and the way that they are now. Hell, most of us act like liberals who think that, by not speaking out about something, people are in favor of it.

  • @kalin6149
    @kalin6149 3 роки тому +151

    Ah yes a small scrap of metal is a machine gun. Thanks ATF... You always make so much sense.

    • @SatansBaby1
      @SatansBaby1 Рік тому +1

      What happens if you brake it or it gets worn down? can you make another ?

    • @kalin6149
      @kalin6149 Рік тому +3

      @@SatansBaby1 most likely.... Not. If it was a lightning link or some piece of metal that could be machined and laser engraved, I'm willing to bet that the part would be secretively replaced without the ATF being notified.

    • @looloo6322
      @looloo6322 9 місяців тому

      No not leagally, but if you do and re-serial number it, who would know or tell the difference. The only part that breaks often is that tail piece in the back, and that isn't serialized and could be deemed a repair.@@SatansBaby1

  • @earlrissel4454
    @earlrissel4454 3 роки тому +385

    It appears that even the image of a lightning link printed on a stainless steel piece of sheet metal is considered a "machine gun" in the eyes of the BATFE.

    • @thystaff742
      @thystaff742 3 роки тому +15

      Thank crs firearms for that one.

    • @330FoeSho
      @330FoeSho 3 роки тому +20

      The ever so dangerous "constructive possession" 😧

    • @williamdesmarais4931
      @williamdesmarais4931 2 роки тому +6

      @@yamadkiddo8028 hmmm. Where are your videos posted?

    • @joelrainey1979
      @joelrainey1979 2 роки тому +4

      @@yamadkiddo8028 good ole keyboard warrior I can bet you wouldn't say that to Matt face to face o and what's the name of your channel again just curious

    • @joelrainey1979
      @joelrainey1979 2 роки тому +17

      @@thystaff742 why thank CRS the aft has know what lighting links are for a long time and Matt actually has a license to fix and build full auto so what is your point

  • @barricksspecial
    @barricksspecial 3 роки тому +358

    Abolish the ATF and the NFA!!

    • @aaronfox5559
      @aaronfox5559 3 роки тому +3

      You mean Congress ? The ATF are nobody

    • @diegaspumper8501
      @diegaspumper8501 2 роки тому +7

      @@aaronfox5559 Congress doesn’t kick in your door and shoot your dog, the ATF does!

    • @aaronfox5559
      @aaronfox5559 2 роки тому +2

      @@diegaspumper8501 who da fuk u tink give em power meet head

    • @diegaspumper8501
      @diegaspumper8501 2 роки тому +4

      @@aaronfox5559 you’re the one who said the ATF is no body MEAT HEAD!!! I know exactly how they got their authority. You obviously didn’t understand my point was short bus.

    • @ryanburbridge
      @ryanburbridge 2 роки тому +1

      Abolish the USA

  • @OJsLeftGlove
    @OJsLeftGlove 3 роки тому +322

    I appreciate the very specific descriptions of the thickness and its similarity to a thick sawblade

    • @con1056
      @con1056 3 роки тому +52

      They just baited the hook for me big time. Gonna take every inch of me not to do something stupid

    • @miketanner1920
      @miketanner1920 3 роки тому +49

      Ban saw blade
      They are made of quality spring steel
      Just saying

    • @ccsmith2937
      @ccsmith2937 3 роки тому +8

      😂🤣

    • @MarkiusFox
      @MarkiusFox 3 роки тому +25

      "It's only illegal if you get caught." - Donald Trump, if he had two functioning brain cells.

    • @KM_1983
      @KM_1983 3 роки тому +57

      @@MarkiusFox You mean Joe Biden
      I mean the Big Man.
      I mean Well Son of a Bitch

  • @colostomybag9367
    @colostomybag9367 3 роки тому +412

    If you ate a pop tart into the shape of a lighting link have you increased or decreased the resale value of the pop tart? Have you illegally made a machine gun? What is the condition of your dog? All valid questions.

    • @Airondot
      @Airondot 3 роки тому +25

      Well the dog is dead either way.

    • @MrProfchaos71
      @MrProfchaos71 2 роки тому +13

      They just arrested a guy months ago for selling a thin metal card with just the outline of it etched on it.

    • @jazeenharal6013
      @jazeenharal6013 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, dog is no more.

    • @Fausto_4841
      @Fausto_4841 2 роки тому +3

      The value comes from the number existing in some database. It's kind of a pre block chain if you think about it.

    • @mr.highschoollocksmith6080
      @mr.highschoollocksmith6080 Рік тому +2

      😭😭🤣😭 “What’s the condition of your dog?”
      Funniest shit I’ve read in a very long time.

  • @martyyoung3611
    @martyyoung3611 3 роки тому +458

    It would be awesome if America was a free country where you didn't have to, "pay to play".

    • @greytallcloud5695
      @greytallcloud5695 3 роки тому +27

      the rich dont have the rules we do

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 3 роки тому +6

      Poll Tax

    • @someguy2594
      @someguy2594 3 роки тому +20

      It wouldve been awesome if Reagan was never president

    • @martyyoung3611
      @martyyoung3611 3 роки тому +22

      @@someguy2594, the country was tired of the (D)umbass Carter. Now, we've been saddled with an even bigger (D)umbass thanks to vote fraud.

    • @SH-lb1nu
      @SH-lb1nu 3 роки тому +3

      Like you logo @marty young, at least you are not in Canada. I am to young to have advocated for the rights me lost here

  • @matthewbattie1022
    @matthewbattie1022 2 роки тому +41

    According to the ATF, just drawing a lightening link is a crime! A sad testament of the way things are now indeed.

    • @edwardkujawa
      @edwardkujawa 6 місяців тому +1

      very sick indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Gottaculat
    @Gottaculat 3 роки тому +65

    An innocuous item made illegal to manufacture by an unconstitutional law enforced by an even more unconstitutional organization.
    That item shouldn't cost any more than a crush washer, and be just as easy and available to purchase.

  • @bonedeth925
    @bonedeth925 Рік тому +12

    Calling that small piece of metal a machine gun is like calling a spare tire a car

  • @JEJAK5396
    @JEJAK5396 3 роки тому +188

    Nearly every pair of shoes sold in America come pre-laced with a set of matched Machine Guns.

    • @dmack4914
      @dmack4914 3 роки тому +6

      Amazingly true facts

    • @czarface
      @czarface 3 роки тому +4

      Please explain?

    • @jason86768
      @jason86768 3 роки тому +26

      The "AFT" has classified a short piece of string as being a machine gun, because it was used to make a rifle with a reciprocating bolt handle to go "brrrrrt". There's a pic of it floating around on the net. I forget if it was an m1 garand or mini 14/30 or what, something along those lines.

    • @czarface
      @czarface 3 роки тому +7

      @@jason86768 Thank you

    • @ChrisEpler
      @ChrisEpler 3 роки тому +6

      @@dmack4914 Untrue, most shoes are not sold laced.

  • @thatchsmash
    @thatchsmash 2 роки тому +36

    "If you wanna play, you gotta pay"
    So basically what your saying is that the NFA is simply a poor tax, and that the full use of the 2nd amendment only applies to the rich and the US government? Good to know.

    • @mc4906
      @mc4906 Рік тому +5

      Yes, that's exactly why it was passed and why it continues to this day.

  • @jeffhuntley2921
    @jeffhuntley2921 Рік тому +8

    Careful. A drawing of this could get you jail time just while waiting for your court date

  • @zoeylamant8298
    @zoeylamant8298 2 роки тому +14

    REALLY pisses me off how fine this older generation is with saying things like "if you want to play, you gotta pay". letting them slow walk us into complete slavery.

    • @theElderberryFarmer
      @theElderberryFarmer 2 роки тому +5

      With him following up that statement immediately with 'that's how sad things have gotten' makes me feel that he WASN'T ok with the sentiment behind his 'pay to play' statement.

    • @aboringsandwich
      @aboringsandwich 2 роки тому +4

      @@theElderberryFarmer yet he still turned his rights into a privilege by asking permission in the first place....

  • @KendrasEdge757
    @KendrasEdge757 3 роки тому +149

    EVERY gun law, regulation &/or requirement IS an infringement on the Second Amendment. The NFA and the BATFE needs to be dissolved & defunded/disbanded. Anyone should be able to purchase /make anything reference firearms and accessories, period. There is no asterisk preceding or following “…shall not be infringed.”

  • @creatine50
    @creatine50 2 роки тому +42

    There is a court case going on where a guy drew a picture of a lightning link on a piece of metal and sold them. AFT now considers that business card piece of metal with a picture on it a machine gun. The ATF is out of control.

    • @Beuwen_The_Dragon
      @Beuwen_The_Dragon Рік тому +2

      The ATF needs to be abolished, either through Congress, or one piece of lead at a time…

    • @bradpnw1897
      @bradpnw1897 Рік тому +1

      That guy just got smoke by the ATF looking at 45 years

    • @fauxque5057
      @fauxque5057 Рік тому +2

      @@bradpnw1897 they're not going to get 45 years. They will get sentenced for the most serious charge and the others will all run concurrent with that charge.
      Most likely they will get 5 to 7 years maximum

    • @edx21x
      @edx21x Рік тому

      @@fauxque5057 yes, that’s almost certainly the way it will play out. But no parole in federal system so he’s going to do at least 85% of that time and is now a convicted felon.

  • @joshlemke735
    @joshlemke735 2 роки тому +23

    If you wanna play you gotta pay. Spoken like a true ATF agent.

  • @themightiestofbooshes9443
    @themightiestofbooshes9443 3 роки тому +432

    "that's a machinegun"
    yep, im sure. a machinegun that doesnt fire any bullets, take any magazines, have a trigger, barrel, or bolt group.
    oh, it's a part that converts a normal rifle into a machinegun? well, i'm glad we made (new) machineguns illegal ANYWAY.
    you know, the ATF was made just to infringe on our rights. but so long as the music plays, we dance.
    bastards.

    • @ToeCutter454
      @ToeCutter454 3 роки тому +5

      @Larry Powell XD honestly i can see someone bending one of those large paper clips and using it in the same manner... those things are pretty stiff... pretty sure Staples sells 100 packs of them for under $4! i've seen videos on the "coat hanger" method. don't really understand the need for a machine gun anyways and the gangs already get ahold of the shit they need that's illegal anyhow so kind of just making more laws for people that really don't even misuse the damn things as is...

    • @drevil2783
      @drevil2783 3 роки тому +3

      @Larry Powell dude you killed me with the assault paper clip😆😆😆😆😆

    • @kbbacon
      @kbbacon 3 роки тому +1

      The "alcohol" part started way back with George Washington and the Whiskey Rebellion.

    • @DavidNefelimSlayer
      @DavidNefelimSlayer 3 роки тому +4

      when the government designs a mule it ends up looking like a giraffe

    • @ASR84922
      @ASR84922 3 роки тому +1

      “Well regulated”

  • @mikeskidmore6754
    @mikeskidmore6754 Рік тому +4

    The only thing that Matt Hoover is guilty of is making fun of the ATF and hurting their feelings.

  • @MrJ69davis
    @MrJ69davis 3 роки тому +129

    Dissolve the ATF.

    • @Joe-sh2tf
      @Joe-sh2tf 3 роки тому +3

      AGREED 100%!!!!!

    • @s.armitage3963
      @s.armitage3963 3 роки тому +4

      What fluid would you like to dissolve them in? 😁

    • @misterfister7262
      @misterfister7262 3 роки тому +2

      @@s.armitage3963 acid?

    • @aaronfox5559
      @aaronfox5559 3 роки тому

      Dumb! Lol y’all are like BLM saying abolish the police hahaha It’s the fucking LAW MAKERS OR AKA THE KARENS lol Dissolve the Karen’s

    • @morzinbo
      @morzinbo 3 роки тому

      @@aaronfox5559 why not both?

  • @gewtube3794
    @gewtube3794 3 роки тому +58

    Somewhere in someones junk drawer, there is one of these with some rotted broken rubberbands

    • @christoperdevore3617
      @christoperdevore3617 3 роки тому +3

      😂🤣

    • @JohnDoe-pv2iu
      @JohnDoe-pv2iu 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah because SWD was selling the link and kits with no paperwork for a while before the cutoff.
      They would sell you one of the two metal pieces, or a kit. Then the other half was ordered from a different ad in the same magazine!
      That was the 80s! UZI bolts and suppressor kits. Suppressor tubes on a different page and the UZI Kicker to Fully utilize the open bolt for the UZI.
      I remember reading about obe dumbass in the 80s buying an UZI open bolt and writing in to complain that it didn't make his semiautomatic an illegal machine gun!
      Evidently DA didn't realize that he would also need the Kicker selector from a different ad in the magazine...
      Dumbass...

    • @christoperdevore3617
      @christoperdevore3617 3 роки тому +4

      @@JohnDoe-pv2iu 🤣the ‘80s were so rad. Uzi’s, blow and hookers were just a Friday night😂🤣

    • @z50com
      @z50com 3 роки тому +10

      After Grandpa passed away Grandma found a small piece of metal in Grandpa's toolbox. Off in the trash it goes because 99.999% of the people would have no idea what it is!

  • @GentooGuy
    @GentooGuy 2 роки тому +53

    Who would have thought that just a drawing of the lightening link could land you in prison…. Thanks AFT! Let’s go Brandon!!!

    • @ryanburbridge
      @ryanburbridge 2 роки тому +1

      Not only drawing one but partnering with someone

    • @houndsong
      @houndsong Рік тому +2

      Inaccurately drawing one at that.

  • @mr.noneyabidness
    @mr.noneyabidness 2 роки тому +22

    I'm pretty sure the ATF doesn't even know what a gun looks like anymore!

  • @GuitarGuy4647
    @GuitarGuy4647 3 роки тому +166

    3D printer go brrrrrrrrrr

    • @Randy_84
      @Randy_84 3 роки тому +10

      3D printer go snap. Youd maybe get a few rounds before that cracked. Now a metal 3D printer 🤔

    • @dmack4914
      @dmack4914 3 роки тому +18

      Stay calm and Boogle on

    • @ThoraniosX
      @ThoraniosX 3 роки тому +2

      @@Randy_84 bullshit.

    • @Imafed42069
      @Imafed42069 3 роки тому +11

      @@Randy_84 there use to be a video on UA-cam of a SOT dealer with a drop in 3d printed lightning link and it worked fine

    • @highspirit7483
      @highspirit7483 3 роки тому +6

      A 3d printer won't work. But a ghost gunner milling machine on the other hand . . .

  • @MlnscBoo
    @MlnscBoo Рік тому +4

    I had no idea this existed. Thank you ATF for turning me on to this nifty little gadget!

  • @melindagreen3023
    @melindagreen3023 3 роки тому +106

    Anybody that Pays $10-15K for that little piece of Metal is a Damn FooL!

    • @moore4615
      @moore4615 3 роки тому +8

      I see it as an investment. Just saying...

    • @danfromthesouth5352
      @danfromthesouth5352 3 роки тому +11

      If I owned a shooting range, I’d buy it and rent out machine guns to the public. Being able to run a brand new civilian gun in full auto is a pretty awesome feature. This is actually one of the only ways I would ever get into machine guns. I’d have to win the damn lottery jackpot to ever consider it, but I’ve got a 1 in 292,000,000ths of a chance! Lol

    • @martyyoung3611
      @martyyoung3611 3 роки тому +10

      If Amerikwa was a truly free country people wouldn't need to come up with clever little gadgets like that.

    • @LyleH-13
      @LyleH-13 3 роки тому +10

      @@danfromthesouth5352 if you own a range, you could file paperwork and create new machine guns that are non transferable for use on the range. You just can't sell them and they must be destroyed if you ever close the business or stop paying the ATF taxes. What makes the old ones special is they are pre1986 which means they are transferable without a federal firearms license.

    • @kalin6149
      @kalin6149 3 роки тому +4

      @@LyleH-13 not everyone who owns a public range is a licensed SOT. It's oodles of paperwork, business licences, manufacturing licences with the state and county, there's quite a lot to it. Doable, but annoying.

  • @TEXASGIANT1959
    @TEXASGIANT1959 3 роки тому +80

    Only the government could screw something up that bad.

    • @justinweaver8787
      @justinweaver8787 3 роки тому +5

      Agreed

    • @justinpyle3415
      @justinpyle3415 3 роки тому +7

      Governments screw everything up.

    • @gewtube3794
      @gewtube3794 3 роки тому +9

      Just like gas cans. They ruin everything

    • @d.i.m.eproductions6925
      @d.i.m.eproductions6925 3 роки тому +2

      @@gewtube3794 use the shitty EPA approved gas cans, bigot (this is a joke, don’t take this seriously)

  • @Yenecol
    @Yenecol 2 роки тому +4

    Best argument I've seen for getting rid of the NFA and AFT.

  • @Gottaculat
    @Gottaculat 3 роки тому +43

    I could freeze frame this video, screenshot the close ups, and make a template of this device that can be scaled to the size needed, and make one of these easy-peasy. With like, 2 screenshots. Now how the hell do the traitors - I mean ATF - intend to keep people from making these? As long as a photo exists, the item can be replicated, unlike an ACTUAL machine gun, which has dozens if not hundreds of parts, requires tooling and/or dies, and a healthy knowledge of mechanical engineering. This lightning link requires a 2D tracing and a few cuts with a Dremel.
    How the hell can anyone sit there and say with a straight face that a glorified bottle opener is a machine gun?!
    Then again, the only reason I don't make one is I couldn't afford the ammo to shoot full-auto even if I wanted to.

    • @Dee_Snutz69
      @Dee_Snutz69 2 роки тому +2

      Some chad made a swift link out of the wire of a coat hanger on UA-cam. You also can’t forget about the shoestring machine gun.

    • @hidingposer3422
      @hidingposer3422 2 роки тому

      If you look at a side view of the way it fits there is a very simple way to make a full auto without a add in part. Well, a add in part does away without the other add in part.

    • @tonyabsoluteam3456
      @tonyabsoluteam3456 2 роки тому +1

      and I say that should be the number one argument of why everyone should own a machine gun. we don't want to have a pile of ammunition and look like a crazy person. lol unfortunately I'm too broke to own both

    • @hidingposer3422
      @hidingposer3422 2 роки тому +2

      @@tonyabsoluteam3456 When I had my SOT I could have got one of the cheap Post 86 dealer samples. Still don't want one. I have had 2 rifles go full auto on me and fixed them. I like to go shooting better than I like loading magazines. Get a BB MG and you will see what I mean.

    • @kaig453
      @kaig453 2 роки тому

      Easy, the ATF will curb free speech and restrict what you can/cannot screenshot or draw. Matt Hoover and the Auto Key Card case as well as Cody Wilson and Ghost Guns are perfect examples of how the ATF will undermine both the second and first amendments.

  • @YasilTorvanna
    @YasilTorvanna 3 роки тому +21

    WHEN DID OUR FOUNDING FATHERS EVER SAY “IF YOU WANNA PLAY YOU GOTTA PAY”???????🤔

  • @zaffdos
    @zaffdos 3 роки тому +33

    “Box of pins” as firearms had me rollin. Brownells is real slick these days

  • @libertarian1637
    @libertarian1637 3 роки тому +80

    $5 part with $200 tax; doesn’t seem over-burdensome at all, seems constitutional. It’s sad that there haven’t been NFA challenges brought up in court.

  • @wagsthedogwhistle5939
    @wagsthedogwhistle5939 Рік тому +2

    "you wanna play u gotta Pay yuh yuh". That sums up the law right there.

  • @Ogrematic
    @Ogrematic 3 роки тому +30

    "If I had 10 ars..."
    Sure, Caleb.
    If.

    • @robertbrown3142
      @robertbrown3142 3 роки тому +2

      Well, I have 6, what's the big deal.

    • @yellowdog762jb
      @yellowdog762jb 3 роки тому +1

      He meant " IF I only had ten ARs".

    • @Ogrematic
      @Ogrematic 3 роки тому +4

      @@yellowdog762jb I'm pretty sure he does. If you worked for Brownells, you probably would.

    • @andreivaldez2929
      @andreivaldez2929 3 роки тому +2

      I've got 3 over the last year and I'm in a shitty, "ban-state"; I'm sure someone in a less restrictive state who's owned guns for longer could rack up 10+ easily if they wanted to.

    • @Ogrematic
      @Ogrematic 3 роки тому +1

      @@andreivaldez2929 Yee-haw!

  • @Noobish_Camper55
    @Noobish_Camper55 2 роки тому +12

    We need an April fools episode where you show off just a normal shoe lace and explain how it is a $15k machine gun.

  • @silentstryker1590
    @silentstryker1590 3 роки тому +15

    Thanks guys. It's really off kilter when something like this is considered a machine gun.

  • @truraza
    @truraza Рік тому +3

    The ATF and Government's handling of this item is testament to how they wish to ensure that the citizenry cannot match them WHEN they become tyrannical.

  • @MLKreame
    @MLKreame Рік тому +2

    Bringing Caleb on really modernized Brownells content

  • @jeciiillc-lightninglinkcon4381
    @jeciiillc-lightninglinkcon4381 3 роки тому +7

    You demonstrated the link operation backwards. The paddle is not hit from the front pushing the link back. The paddle actually goes forward and pulls the link back. Small detail. But wither way at 15 16k these are sleeper nfa guns most economical machinegun in the registry. They are actually very durable and hold up well with a kns protector. Also they can be repaired if they break its no big deal. Also the number of registered links mentioned is a little low. I spoke with Wayne last year and I won't give the exact number but is greater than 1000 but less than 3000 he registered. Again great piece of NFA history and only way to have a modern machine gun. You can run a link in a hk 416 if you how. Drop in autostart and lightning link only way you can leagly have a fa 416. Link is half the cost.

  • @jeffmellow
    @jeffmellow 2 роки тому +4

    Only a government employee could be stupid enough to consider that to be a machine gun!

  • @xXvenomslasherXx
    @xXvenomslasherXx 2 роки тому +3

    With a secret ingredient called crime, you in fact, do not have to pay to play.

  • @franks.2544
    @franks.2544 3 роки тому +15

    The biggest roadblock to abolishing the NFA will be the people that spent 40k on an MP40.

    • @rabidsbr
      @rabidsbr 3 роки тому +2

      False. Please stop perpetuating this lie. 99.99% of people who own MGs would give their left nut to be able to buy and build new ones and could do so for pennies on the dollar if Hughes was repealed. MG ownership is for people who love the guns for what they are: shooters or collectors. Shooters would love to own new MGs they can't get now and collectors would love to get other historical guns that are currently being used/abused by shooters for cheaper.
      MGs make shitty investments. Illiquid, highly regulated, and unless you registered hundreds of sears pre-86, you probably aren't making much money if you're entering the market at today's prices. You would have been better off putting your money in an index fund.

    • @franks.2544
      @franks.2544 3 роки тому +3

      @@rabidsbr I'm sure the 99.9% would be utterly ecstatic if their $40,000 SMG suddenly was worth $600.

    • @rabidsbr
      @rabidsbr 3 роки тому +2

      @@franks.2544 Amortization. The next $40,000 buys 20 to 40 more MGs. I guarantee most would be celebrating. Only an idiot buys an "investment" this risky and this illiquid at this point unless they have another reason (loving guns for what they are).

    • @tonyabsoluteam3456
      @tonyabsoluteam3456 2 роки тому

      @@franks.2544 I don't know. They would just become a class known as, pre 86ers. Then technically you could probably registered as historical.

  • @bobbytables4305
    @bobbytables4305 Рік тому +3

    Remember folks the ATF also declared a shoelace as a machine gun and they recently did this with basically a steel burr

  • @jastrapper190
    @jastrapper190 Рік тому +3

    That was an excellent statement. It’s a sad testament to how incompetent and ridiculous our laws and lawmakers are.

  • @phillhuddleston9445
    @phillhuddleston9445 Рік тому +1

    I was going to draw a picture of one on a sheet of paper but I don't want the ATF to arrest me and charge me with possession of a paper machine gun because now just a simple drawing of one is enough to get convicted of possessing an illegal machine gun. Lets hope Matt wins on appeal!

  • @snlconner
    @snlconner 2 роки тому +3

    Great explanation of how these came to be, and how the registered part is key!

  • @azboy2009
    @azboy2009 2 роки тому +12

    Update: CRS Firearms was apparently just arrested on multiple felonies, one of which was helping promote a guy that was printing an image of a lightening link on a piece of stainless.

  • @molywop510
    @molywop510 3 роки тому +7

    Thanks for showing us what it looks like 👍

  • @kingferguson1
    @kingferguson1 2 роки тому +2

    Legend has it that if you have just a drawing of a lightning link, the FedBoyz will come get you.

  • @SoloRenegade
    @SoloRenegade 3 роки тому +7

    Banning then in No way prevents someone from easily fabricating one of these any day of the week

  • @mpeugeot
    @mpeugeot 2 роки тому +3

    I remember when these were less than $10k, thanks AFT.

  • @kevinroberts781
    @kevinroberts781 3 роки тому +9

    Can you hold a tape measure up to it?

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476 2 роки тому +2

    Ok .
    Now the ATF is going to raid Brownells .

  • @DD-rf9fc
    @DD-rf9fc Рік тому +2

    ATF makes up law as it goes along.

  • @MrMoe216
    @MrMoe216 5 місяців тому +3

    So only the rich can have machine guns not us poors.

  • @Lovenpain
    @Lovenpain Рік тому +4

    This is funny and scary now that two guys are going to prison for making a business card with the plans on it.

    • @andrews.7754
      @andrews.7754 Рік тому +1

      I think the fact that Caleb touched it is probably against one of the ATF's "rules". Better head for the hills, Caleb.

    • @Lovenpain
      @Lovenpain Рік тому +1

      @@andrews.7754 hahahahaha so true! Better run CALEB!!!!! Lol

  • @flybouy11
    @flybouy11 2 роки тому +6

    Your belt loop would be considered a machine gun. That would act as a bump stock to those of you that know how it is used.

  • @rhubarbpie2027
    @rhubarbpie2027 3 роки тому +39

    Coat hangers and 3d printers. That is all.

    • @hidingposer3422
      @hidingposer3422 2 роки тому

      Simpler than that. A production single shot pistol has a bump stock kind of feature. Timing is everything.

  • @americanpatriot6918
    @americanpatriot6918 3 роки тому +42

    The NFA needs to be repealed. But with the advancement in technology I'd be just as happy with a binary trigger. With ammo prices so high, full auto is an expensive hobby!

    • @onesilentarrow
      @onesilentarrow 3 роки тому

      I’ve never experienced it but have seen and heard of enough accidents that have maimed and killed a lot of people. It’s dangerous and a waste of ammo in my opinion. I wouldn’t want to be at a range where some careless asshole lost control of his weapon and shit everyone around him on “accident”. Im a patriot and a 2nd amendment absolutist.

    • @hidingposer3422
      @hidingposer3422 2 роки тому

      Machine guns are the same as a pool or trampoline in a trailer park. EVERYBODY just want's one because someone else saw somebody with one. I have been a licensed dealer for 10 years. SOT for three. I have NEVER wanted a machine gun. I can even get the post 86 dealer samples that are the CHEAPEST ones. I have accidentally owned two full autos. I fixed those. Cross bar hotel, and feeding endless ammo, isn't much fun.

    • @yamadkiddo8028
      @yamadkiddo8028 2 роки тому +1

      @@hidingposer3422 boring as shit zzzz

    • @dubjubs
      @dubjubs Рік тому

      ​@onesilentarrow So you're pro 2A but are okay with full autos being banned? Not really 2A then

    • @americanpatriot6918
      @americanpatriot6918 Рік тому +1

      @@dubjubs I never said anything about being ok with full autos being banned. All I said is that shooting full auto is expensive. You misread my comment.

  • @kimdearrington258
    @kimdearrington258 2 роки тому +1

    The 86 Hughes Amendment is absolutely unconstitutional!

  • @jk-76
    @jk-76 3 роки тому +2

    Regan floundered on this one.

  • @yugbe
    @yugbe 3 роки тому +6

    Truly is a sad state of affairs' that this small, inanimate object could send someone to prison for a longer term than someone that rapes another person. I'd be interested to see the amount of lightning links that were used in a crime. I would bet that there were more after 86 than before (Discounting the crime of possession of a lightning link itself.)

  • @JamesReedy
    @JamesReedy 3 роки тому +9

    Wouldn’t it be funny if someone built a piece of machinery where this exact geometry was inside as a critical part of the mechanics of the device. That device of course not being a machine-gun.
    How can you get someone for constructive possession if they buy a commercially produced object that just happens to have a linkage inside shaped that way. 🤔

    • @stephentthomas
      @stephentthomas Рік тому +3

      Someone should totally do this.
      ATF: That's a machine gun!!!
      Manufacturer: Nope. THAT is a lawnmower.
      ATF: ...with a bayonet attached!!!
      Manufacturer: Lawnmower blade.

  • @curtmcbee2238
    @curtmcbee2238 2 роки тому +2

    To be honest, even if I had a pre-84 lower, an RDIAS or a registered lightning link I would probably hardly ever even use it in party mode, but I sure as shit wish I had the option.

  • @22LR.addict
    @22LR.addict Рік тому +1

    Oh how this has aged......now it is a machine gun if you just have a drawing of a lighting link. Free Justin and Matt!

  • @chiefkyle1098
    @chiefkyle1098 Рік тому +2

    "You gotta pay to play." wtf us wrong with you?
    me: *slaps a flat piece of fiberglass* Wanna buy this Lamborghini for $500K?

  • @joejr9653
    @joejr9653 3 роки тому +5

    Pre 86, if only we had a time machine.

  • @1992djg
    @1992djg 3 роки тому +2

    I had never really looked into how simple a lightning link was and damm is it simple

    • @chloedemeter5473
      @chloedemeter5473 2 роки тому

      Seen the Yankee Boogle? Print in water soluble polymer and you can snap it in half and let it melt in the rain or morning dew after you use it.

  • @kyleabrams9480
    @kyleabrams9480 3 роки тому +2

    Happy to see a lack of fudds in the comments. The idea was to keep the people on par with those that might become our enemies and was purely in the name of defense.

    • @kyleabrams9480
      @kyleabrams9480 3 роки тому

      Brownells: (here it is guys, take a good look, we can't give the dimensions)

  • @p00lboy
    @p00lboy 3 роки тому +5

    if only we had a constitution with a bill of rights that included a second amendment that stated "no infringement"
    😔if only

  • @mattbrown9484
    @mattbrown9484 3 роки тому +8

    I remember prior to 1987 people were being shot in droves by civilians with machine guns.

    • @jason86768
      @jason86768 3 роки тому

      Lol you're funny

    • @tony690
      @tony690 3 роки тому

      Yes! I remember the carnage. Bodies everywhere.

    • @toxicresidue
      @toxicresidue 3 роки тому +3

      yeah you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a machinegun

  • @kennethmeeker6369
    @kennethmeeker6369 Рік тому +2

    According to ATF a rubberband is a machine gun if they so choose.

  • @TheExplosiveGuy
    @TheExplosiveGuy 2 роки тому +2

    Sure goes to show how smart bureaucrats are...

  • @toxxicbangerz
    @toxxicbangerz 3 роки тому +8

    But if I put a set of smooth Goodyear’s on a Honda Civic that doesn’t make it a race car.

  • @EricDaMAJ
    @EricDaMAJ 3 роки тому +21

    I need to make a bunch of these, send them to my favorite anti gun politicians then sic the AFT on them.

    • @onesilentarrow
      @onesilentarrow 3 роки тому +5

      You’re obviously joking but a further comment confirming that might keep your home from being raided. Just sayin. They have people and AI poring over gun channel comments 8-10 hours a day in San Francisco.

    • @EricDaMAJ
      @EricDaMAJ 3 роки тому +5

      @@onesilentarrow I would never use the tools of authoritarianism against my would be authoritarian masters. : D

    • @tonyabsoluteam3456
      @tonyabsoluteam3456 2 роки тому

      That's funny. Yet not a good idea

  • @Xellos14
    @Xellos14 Рік тому +1

    Can't wait for the follow up episode of a metal card with shapes printed on it as the ATF's new macine gun classification. Bold of Brownell's to retroactively be distributing machine guns, according to the ATF over-reach decision where just images of the lightning link is a machine gun now.

  • @jacob-tl3is
    @jacob-tl3is 3 роки тому +1

    Don’t comply. Keep building my brothers!

  • @Radvous
    @Radvous 3 роки тому +3

    Sad how regulated that is, but the Rare Breed FRT 15 trigger is a great alternative

  • @barrymccockiner6641
    @barrymccockiner6641 Рік тому +2

    If Brownell's laid that down against a ruler or cutting mat, would that be a Federal felony?

  • @oregonpatriot1570
    @oregonpatriot1570 2 місяці тому +1

    If you want to make and use one? You best wait until the _'bottom drops out'._ When that happens, *ALL* laws will be null & void. You ever hear the phrase... _'All is fair in love & war'?_
    Well, that applies here.

  • @TheGearhead222
    @TheGearhead222 3 роки тому +2

    That's just nuts!-John in Texas

  • @brucebelvin2058
    @brucebelvin2058 3 роки тому +5

    YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT IT ONLY WORKS WITH SP1 BOLT CARRIERS.

  • @lennemoy1971
    @lennemoy1971 Рік тому +3

    Didn’t just get a guy a huge prison sentence?!

  • @LL-be3rh
    @LL-be3rh Рік тому +2

    I was scared for my dogs just watching this 😂

  • @ismaelgutierrez2555
    @ismaelgutierrez2555 Місяць тому

    I'm surprised that the little piece is a machine gun. But truly amazing but terrifying all at the same time.

  • @innerlightfilms
    @innerlightfilms Рік тому +3

    Shit like this pisses me off because I'd like the opportunity to brag that I live in a free country.

  • @OneMoreGrave
    @OneMoreGrave 3 роки тому +4

    "If you wanna play you gotta pay." Seems to be everywhere in gubment. ATF, Burisma, etc., 10% for the big guy...

  • @justin_smith556
    @justin_smith556 Рік тому +1

    I took a screenshot of this and now my phone is potentially a machine gun

  • @Bosco-gets-it-right
    @Bosco-gets-it-right Рік тому +1

    ( AFT ) “well, you once THOUGHT about making one of these so you’re going to jail..”

  • @EEST-Militia
    @EEST-Militia Рік тому +3

    I wish the worst for every ATF family member.