Expanding the Moog Modular synthesizer & making the Attenuator
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2017
- Here I show how to make a 4 way CV signal attenuator.
this really is a part 2 of making panels for the modular synthesizer. Here I use some ready made anodised aluminium and some of my own failed attempt panel to see which is best.
though both have reasonably good results when marked with a fiber laser.
All music used in this video was composed and played by Markus Fuller , Dan Ward , Jason Lee.
Great and the best design for modular synths in the history...
Excellent video. I like all of the low level details. It's like being right in the studio with you, and the background music track was perfect.
Thank You Keith I really appreciate that coming from someone such as yourself as I'm a big fan of your excellent video's.
Absolutely brilliant! That laser is very cool! Really enjoyed the rhythmic sounds coming from the Moog Modular. Your add-on really extends the sonic pallet. Thanks, and keep up the great works!
Thanks Thomas. I have several ideas penned in my little black book and some old circuits i made up many many years ago that may give the unit more interesting uses.
Another great video, thanks Markus.
I don't want to be a jerk, or come off as being condescending, but one safety precaution I would recommend would be to wear a thick leather glove on your left hand while you are drilling out the holes of the panel. If the drill happened to pull the piece out of your hand and spin it, it could slice your hand very badly. I know it's really easy to neglect it because I've also done the exact same thing a million times. It's like, "eh, it's only going to take a few minutes to drill these holes, why waste the time? I'll be extra careful." However, it only takes one slip, so the glove might be helpful if an accident were to occur. The smaller the piece of metal you're drilling, the easier it is to slip from your hands.
Either way, this is an awesome video, and I am really impressed with the care and precision you take with your work. The process is fascinating. Thanks for posting.
I really do oppose your view tbh. If the drill catches the glove it'll pull in your finger and that could end quite badly too.
On second thought. With a leather glove its probs gonna be fine. The rubbery gardening type gloves though.. I wouldn't recommend wearing while using power tools.
That laser!! It was like watching a 1970’s edition of Tomorrow’s World, especially with the music. I felt I was back in my childhood!
Oh I remember sitting in front of the tell-lie-vision waiting for tomorrows world to start. that was one of the good programmes the BBC made.
markusfuller same here, could not wait for the day it was on. I think there are a few here on you tube if you want a walk down memory lane. The Beeb did a number of good factual programmes back then. I used to love Model World on Saturday mornings. After watching that I would be high tailing it to my local model store to find a kit they had shown. Go with Noakes as well, ahh, I am so glad I am the age I am!
markusfuller oh and I love how you describe the goggle box now! I have not owned a TV since leaving the U.K. in 1999, this is where I get my entertainment now!
I am so grateful that you are doing a series of your own synth creation. Its what I would like to do eventually. This is VERY engaging to watch. Than you. I will be sure to share it with others.
Ooh muscles! Nice job with the new panel
So nice to finally HEAR all the synth stuff with real music.
You're nuts Markus, lovely system, impressive stuff :)
I would watch videos of ANY length that featured your Moog experiments. Don't over think, just give more of these sounds, please. New subscriber. Love your videos and your music!
great vid the modular sounds amazing.
I should have spent a bit more time trying to get a better sound but was rushed for time.
Thank You
So cool you own a Moog Modular!! :D
Great Video, very interesting. :)
Lovely stuff Markus - now I'm getting itchy to come over for an analogue afternoon soon!
Eddy Deegan Always welcome Eddy, anytime.
Really cool Marcus, more please!
Thank You . more on the way as soon as i get a free day I will keep on filming. best wishes
Your'e very welcome:)
Can't wait for your other videos uploads.
Best wishes.
Dwight.
your workspace is such a mess, organized chaos. I love it haha, reminds me of myself.
very very interesting...
youarere great! keep up the good wok!
the music is cool...reminds me to jean michael jarre...!!!
BTW at the end of the video,this sounds like when alien try to
"contact"us on earth....:)
The laser lettering was impressive. When I started out, such a task involved hours of fiddly Letraset.
been there. hours of letraset and finishing off with clear varnish spray.
Congrats!! Some random voltages sources may be interesting to fit the rest of empty space. Nice background music too!!
That is a really nice track you guys made there..
Thank You we are working on a full album together of similar music.
I like that!
I'd say an oscilloscope would be a splendid addition!
You have done a good job there buddy they look awesome, you have to build your own oscillators and filter and env, now bud :)
This is amazing! Makes me want to build my own units. Too bad i lack the tools (and skills) :p
Hello Markus! May I ask, do you live in Brighton?
11:39 You really want linear pots for these attenuators so they will work well with control signals (and 13:40 they will work well with audio signals). Great job!
I used the same pots as Moog but only smaller. they have 10k Log type A in the attenuator.
You could always cheat and use black dibond, it's a plastic/aluminum/plastic/aluminum/plastic sandwich. and if you route along where to want to bend (at about 1/2 the thickness of the panel iirc), it bends really easy.
And if you engrave it by just going to the depth of the first layer of plastic it looks really smart.
simple module Im building : octave voltage dropper. basically reduce incoming CV by -1,-2 and -3 volts. handy for when sequencer is playing notes too high, or you want to turn a regular OSC into a Sub :) as well as to simply dial down other control signals
I agree! A sub module would be pretty nice
I enjoy your videos. I’m glad I discovered you. Have you considered silk screening the panels? That’s what I am considering trying on my DIY Modular gear.
I enjoyed the ambient soundtrack. Do you release any of your stuff to the public?
I use stereo jacks for midi in and midi out as you only need ground and 2 signal (as only 3 pins in a midi cable is used unless it has phantom power).
Add a spring reverb driver module and mount the "can" in the space behind.
Great video Markus . This has definitly given me some food for thought with my project. However i need a plate about 810mm by 380mm with about 100 odd holes (well its not exactly rack modular, anyways, do you think i could get one with the base colour being yellow ??
P.S. at least you tried your own . A future attempt will probably be more fruitful, if you dont try you dont learn i say.
I like when you say that you ordered some more ACID :-)
Yes it is quite difficult to buy it here in the UK at the moment. most shop keepers just look at you with suspicion if you ask for acid.
Very jealous of your rig! You could add a big stereo spring reverb to just close the whole gap and get it over with XD..
Great music, so like Vangelis or Berlin electronic school!
Thank You we are hoping to get an album out next year with plenty of this similar synth type music. our little band is called "the billion people"
Hey Markus - ranzee here! Great stuff mate! Got a couple of ideas for you - should be achievable with what I've seen you build over the years. 1) Have a little oscilliscope like in the Minilogue so you can see your waveforms. 2) some analog FX - like a phaser or a BBDelay. ...
Yes I like the scope idea and maybe a BBD if i can get around to it.
Great video as always.. I can't believe your OCD didn't kick in when aligning the panel under your laser.. I guess you could clamp a piece of wood to the edge of your desk so you'd only have to align the board in one direction (Y axis) to engrave. Just my 2 cents... really fun to watch this whole process though, thank you!
debaserNYC Hi I was looking down the edge of the panel and lining it up with the edge of the aluminuim base of the laser by moving my head to one side, thats why i had it raised on a piece of wood to make it higher , it’s easier but its not perfect.
Marcus what electronic & engineering skills you have. Pleased to have found your channel by mistake as it were. Would you be able to talk further on the laser lettering setup in a future video?
I love the Moog Synth. I wish they were cheaper.
Like the music. A bit "John Foxx". Nice..
Many thanks indeed John Foxx is brilliant :-)
Sounds fantastic, actually! Feel free to post any modular jams you please.
Hi Robert I hope there will be some more jams in the near future.
Marcus, have a search for Birchwood Casey Aluminum Black. It's a paint on dye for aluminium. If you can get over the American spelling, it's great stuff!
You could do any sort of diy guitar pedal design and mount it behind a panel. Distortion or delay maybe?
Yes Im thinking maybe a spring reverb with valve pre-amp built in. so i can cut out a window for the valve to be seen :-)
Yes I have a few interesting pedals around that could look good if made into a synth panel.
Hi,
A Turing machine similar to the eurorack module would be interesting to add to the moot modular.
Yes im thinking another box on top one day especially sized for eurorack gear.
Very good looking panels.
buy a secondhand Eventide H3000 :)
Jetset Willy I think they demand high prices. more than i can afford at the moment
Do you made already a Video of the Laser device? I'm very interested in this device ;-) Type? Price?
Hello Markus, my name is Alejandro and I have seen the tutorial that you puclicated on the X-32, I need help to be able to repair the screen of my Behringer X-32, broke the connector of the 40-pin flat cable when changing the faders and I do not know how to repair it.
I intend to solder the cable directly but I do not know the order or the function of each pin.
Do you have any information about it?
Can you guide me so that it works again in the correct way?
I appreciate any help you can give me.
Best regards from Chile.
Some suggestions: 8x8 pin matrix, D-beam controller, arduino based digital modulator (clock sync'ed LFOs, etc), two theremin antenna modules.
I like the idea of a theremin.
How about some VU meters? There's some nice small round black ones on ebay. Simple op-amp driver :)
I'll take two.
Thanks Michael.
about acid, generally if it's not fizzing (making lots of tiny bubbles) then it's not working (needs to be stronger)
What about a modified Ring mixer based on the balanced Quadrature Sampling Emitter and the carrier to be 4 times the wanted frequency which drives a 74AC74 configured as a Johnson Counter giving the drive signals to drive the 74HC152 configured as a balanced Quadrature Sampling Emitter (QSE) which would be driven using an audio phase shift network and should work better than the diode ring mixer and should be able to give to bands LSB/USB selected by the Johnson Counter schematic is available on the internet just a suggestion. Anyway the carrier would be 76-80khz, even though the clock is a square wave the output signal will be a nice smooth signal.
Yikes David I was hoping to start off with something a little more simple LOL.
Here’s a weird idea. How about an x-y scope display. I like playing around with one oscillator output plotted against another on my synths. I don’t have a modular, but I get some bizarre patterns that dance around in the rhythm of the sounds on my Mother-32s. That might take up too much space in your rack for a non-audio device, but it makes a nice visual effect. I just bought a couple of old Wavetek (1901C and 1910) displays. They’ve got an 11.5” diagonal CRT.
Sharklops It’s funny you mention that. I put up a video of the patterns I got on my Mother-32s, and then Jerobeam Fenderson’s videos showed up in my recommended list. He’s got some amazing music and it’s really cool how the music and scope display work together. I downloaded a copy of PD, but it will be a while before I can get anything out of it. I can’t get the precision graphics using analog synths that Mr. Fenderson can do with PD. His videos are amazing. He posts links to his PD code, but it’s too complex for me to follow right now. I’m trying to learn PD, but I just got an ARP 2600, so that’s taking all my time lately.
Hi Tim. I have a 3" CRT scope screen that i would love to use but it looks like it may be a bit of a task to get it all working. still I prefer a CRT in this machine rather than a modern LCD screen. it would just look better i think.
markusfuller Yeah, you’d definitely want an analog CRT if you were to do it. I’ve tried both, and even the best digital scope just doesn’t do the x-y mode justice. I think you’re right; it would be a lot of work to modify one to where it looked good in your system. I’ve got an old Heathkit scope that’s small, but it’s tube based, so that would be way too much work to modify. The Wavetek units are nice because the CRT is relatively shallow, and it’s just an x-y display, so there’s no sweep circuit or complex front end. All the electronics are on one board. The problem with that is it’s almost too big in x-y to fit your rack. It would eat up a lot of space that would be better used with audio or control modules. I heard somewhere that Keith Emerson had an oscilloscope display in his modular system, but it wasn’t even hooked up to anything. It just had a dummy signal displayed. I’m not sure if that’s fact or lore, though.If I was going to do it, I’d replace the input jacks with 1/4” audio jacks, so you could just patch in whatever signal you’d like.
Well I will certainly give it some thought. It would have to be very well shielded as theres a lot of signal radiating from a crt so it could be picked up as noise in the synths circuitry. but its not impossible. its just finding the right machine to do the job.
how about a switched multiple, or an logic module?
Not sure what you have on there already but what about a vocoder?
You can vocode with the system-55 . its a bit complex but possible.
Markus, as you always point out about safety, why didn't you put the goggles on when operating the laser?
If you put your arm underneath with your watch on, the stray light might go anywere, apart from any arm burns.
Anyway, apart from my remark like the video!
Albert Pauw Good question Paul. the red laser is just to help line up and the marking laser is operated by a foot pedal to the left of the pc on my left and I am in the hablt of closing my eyes when i push the pedal plus I am also facing away from the machine to push the pedal. but you are quite right to point that out.
Vocoder in empty slot. I’ve got a mfos one needing to go behind a custom MOTM panel.
yes the vododer sounds interesting. i will put that on the maybe list :-)
Excellent video. very informative.
I've done some new designs for some of my eurorack panels and currently trying to figure out how to print them onto aluminium
(even acrylic would do I suppose.)
do you have any tips on that kinda thing or know any companies who do such a thing?
I'm currently thinking... print them out on photo paper then mount them to the back of some clear acrylic then just drill through the holes. (but I would MUCH prefer them printed onto metal)
here's a mock up I did for my turing machine. pbs.twimg.com/media/DPRqUTfXcAEBJqH.jpg:large (simply printed onto photo paper and placed on front (it's just held in place using the nuts and screws on the module and the holes for the LED's are pretty rough as i simply punched them through with a bradol :)
the turing machine was also a DIY build (simple by your standards but still a fun little build)
wish I had half the tools you own , especially the laser :)
Hi Marcus - great setup! Love your shows. I've been trying to contact you about some repairs for my modular. I'm in brighton too - but can't find you in the yellow pages. Can you ping me a PM if you're interested please. It's a relatively easy desolder/fix. thx!
Hello. If you click on my name next to the picture it will take you to my home page. then under the main title bar click [about] and there it will display my email address. I cannot send over to you as there is no [about] tab on your page. but at least you will see my email address on there and be able to message me so i can reply back to you.
Thanks Marcus. I clicked on there before - you seem to have left it blank? FYI - I have now added my own email address in the about section. thx
Marcus - just another huge thanks for being such an absolute legend in helping me out with my synth module, and at such short notice. I learnt a lot, and it was an absolute pleasure to boot. Catch you around!
That drilling looks really dangerous. Surely the piece should be clamped down hard? I like having hands connected to my wrists.
Hey Markus, what's going on? No more videos?
Marcos Sakaguti Hi Marcos. sorry but i have found nothing on the markets to make any videos about and i have been bogged down with work but im trying my best to get a free day so i can get a video uploaded. should be back in action soon i hope.
Ok. I was starting to get worried. Keep the videos coming when you can!
Add some West Coast, why don't you? Complex Oscillator, Lowpass Gate and such Buclaesque elements... Live a little ;)
Hi Martin. its all down to cost at the moment. I played with a o-coast at the modular meet and it was very impressive.
Well yes, isn't is always the costs in everything? I was thinking about DIY. Google says there are some PCBs to be had...
For some reason these modulars make me think of some organism that is put to life via electricity and cables.
CV to Midi? Then you could sequence effects / parameters for another million hours of tweakery.
Great vid Markus, always enjoy it when you make something. As for bends, may I suggest a vid from This Old Tony? ua-cam.com/video/FyXpCPVOr8s/v-deo.html. He's a fun guy, helps with learning complex stuff, such as bending metal.
Thank Neffers I am subscribed and have watched quite a bit of this old tony but have not seen the metal bending vid yet. i will look that up this evening. best wishes.
Cool, enjoy :)
Nice work. Have you ever thought of using aluminium sheets with a sublimation coating and sublimating your own graphics, dials, text etc onto the panels?
I have a sublimation printer (Ricoh SG3110DN) and a heat press and use them to make, amongst other things, aluminium clock faces, like this - ua-cam.com/video/7EJpO1wMU38/v-deo.html
Can I borrow your knowledge for an hour? 😀 👍
Since you are pronouncing Moog incorrectly, I will confiscate your modular. Thanks, and see you soon. heh
OMG, you silly Pogue. From now on pronounce it right! -- Robert Arthur Moog