Jesus is not the Father - He Reveals the Father - by Joel Hemphill & J. Dan Gill
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- J. Dan Gill and Joel Hemphill talk about Jesus as the revealer of God! This is a Scripture packed 28-minute interaction between two respected One God teachers. Joel & J. Dan are both from a Oneness Pentecostal background. They both, independently came to realize that just as the Trinity is lacking, so is the Oneness teaching about God.
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"And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." Jesus the man and Messiah said. ....speaking to his own God and Father above, YHVH, The Almighty One. (John 17:3)
Yes And Amen hallelujah 🙌
"John"
You don't actually think Apostle John wrote that book do you?
"In the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established."
- Jesus (Mat19:15)
@@AnHebrewChild ...I don't know who wrote anything, I was not there. But it is of God. It's a living and powerful word.
Remarkable Freemasonic handshake at the start of the video.
"Jesus saith unto her: Touch me not, for I am not yet ascended to my Father, but go to my brethren and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to MY GOD and your GOD" John 20:17. This verse is not only important because Jesus said it, but because Jesus said it after God(the Father ONLY) raised him from the dead. Additionally, Jesus clearly includes himself with US, not above us, or as God. Resurrected Jesus said that God is his Father AND our Father...our God AND his God. If trinitarians and oneness believe Jesus is God, then you would think that they would listen to him.
Trinitarians and Oneness Pentecostals are simply in the same group of none believers Jesus spoke of in Matthew 13-14, who do not actually believe what GOD and Jesus taught, that Jesus is the SON of GOD and that GOD is GOD ALONE, as GOD only ever said hundreds of times.
thats right
Jesus is the servant of God, Matthew 12:18.
Telling You All The TRUTH.
Holy Spirit is Not the Father or the Son, The
The Holy Spirit is Not the Father or the Son
1. He has been seen with the natural eyes as a separate person from the Father and the Son (Matt. 3:16-17; Luke 3:21-22; John 1:31-34; Rev. 4:5; 5:6).
2. In Rev. 1:4-6; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6 the Spirit is symbolized by seven lamps of fire, seven eyes and seven horns "BEFORE THE THRONE" upon which God the Father is sitting, and "UPON THE LAMB," which is a symbol of Jesus Christ. The Spirit then could not be the person of God the Father sitting on the throne, or the Lamb w ho comes to the Father on the throne and takes a seven-scaled book out of His right hand. Thus we have three persons and each one is distinguished from each other: The Father on the throne; the Son symbolized by the Lamb "BEFORE" the throne; and the Spirit symbolized by seven lamps also "BEFORE" the throne. The fact that Christ and the Spirit are separate symbols seen at the same time and at the same place both "BEFORE" God the Father on the throne proves that they are two separate and distinct persons from each other as well as separate and distinct from the Father. A symbol is something that stands for or represents something else. Inasmuch as the Father is seen on the throne; Christ and the Spirit are symbolized by two separate beings before the throne; therefore, there must have been three separate and distinct persons involved in the scenes that were seen by the eyes of John when he got to Heaven (Rev. 4:1).
3. In John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15 the Holy Spirit is spoken of as Another Comforter (Helper), who could not be sent until Christ had gone back to Heaven and was glorified (John 7:37-39; Acts 2:33-36), but would then be sent as a separate person from the Father and the Son. The Greek allos, like the English "another," means another of the same kind, but different from, not the same one, distinct from another, and one more, as proved every place where such word is used (Matt. 2:12; 8:9; 10:23; 13:24, 31, 33; 21:33; 26:7). Otherwise the passages would not make sense.
Common sense alone demands us to understand that when the word another is used it means two or more. It is used of the Father as being Another from the Son (John 5:32). If the Spirit is Another from the Son who promised Him, and Another from the Father who sent Him; and if the Father was Another from the Son, there must be three distinct persons in the Godhead and all three can be called "God." All three persons are distinguished from each other by the word Another in John 5:32; 14:16.
4. A clear distinction is made between "the name of the Father" and "of the Son" and "of the Holy Ghost" (Matt. 28:19). All three have separate and personal names by which they are known, as is clear from this passage and many others.
5 A clear distinction is made between the Son who prays, and the Father to whom He prays, and "Another Comforter" for whom He prays, who was given in answer to prayer, and who came from the Father and the Son as our "Helper" (John 14:16).
6. A clear distinction is made between Jesus who went away as one distinct person (Acts 1:11) and the Holy Ghost who Came to take His plane as Another distinct person (John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15).
7. A clear distinction is made between the Son who is exalted at the right hand of the Father, and the Father who is on the left hand of the Son, and the Holy Ghost who is sent from the Father and the Son to take the place of Jesus among men (Acts 2:3336; 7:56-59; John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15; Rom.8:34; Eph. 1:20; Col. 3:1; Heb. 1:3; 8:1; 12:2).
8. A clear distinction is made between the Son who was already given (Luke 1:35; John 3:16), and the Holy Ghost who was not yet given before Jesus was glorified (John 7:37-39; Acts 2:33-36; 5:31).
9. A clear distinction is made between the Holy Ghost that came upon Mary, and the child that was born of Mary by the Holy Ghost (Matt. 1:18-25; Luke 1:32-35).
10. A clear distinction is made between the Son who can be blasphemed with forgiveness possible and the Holy Ghost who cannot be blasphemed with forgiveness (Matt. 12:31-32; Mark 3:29-30; Luke 12:10). If the Son and Holy Ghost were not two distinct persons they could not be blasphemed with different results. A third person, the Father, must be understood in such forgiveness, for it is the Father that forgives men as the head of the Godhead (1 Cor. 11:3; Matt. 6:9-15; 18:35; Eph. 4:32).
11. A clear distinction is made between Jesus who was bodily in Mary's womb and the Holy Ghost who was not bodily in Mary's womb, and who filled others (Luke 1:15, 39-41, 67-79).
12. A clear distinction is made between Jesus outside of the womb of Mary and the Holy Ghost who filled and baptized Mary 33 years later at Pentecost (Acts 1:14; 2:1-4). The same distinction is made in the case of disciples at Pentecost: The Holy Ghost came and filled and baptized them while the Son was at that time "exalted at the right hand of the Father
You are the Christ the Son of the Living God
Telling You All The TRUTH.
Holy Spirit is Not the Father or the Son, The
The Holy Spirit is Not the Father or the Son
1. He has been seen with the natural eyes as a separate person from the Father and the Son (Matt. 3:16-17; Luke 3:21-22; John 1:31-34; Rev. 4:5; 5:6).
2. In Rev. 1:4-6; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6 the Spirit is symbolized by seven lamps of fire, seven eyes and seven horns "BEFORE THE THRONE" upon which God the Father is sitting, and "UPON THE LAMB," which is a symbol of Jesus Christ. The Spirit then could not be the person of God the Father sitting on the throne, or the Lamb w ho comes to the Father on the throne and takes a seven-scaled book out of His right hand. Thus we have three persons and each one is distinguished from each other: The Father on the throne; the Son symbolized by the Lamb "BEFORE" the throne; and the Spirit symbolized by seven lamps also "BEFORE" the throne. The fact that Christ and the Spirit are separate symbols seen at the same time and at the same place both "BEFORE" God the Father on the throne proves that they are two separate and distinct persons from each other as well as separate and distinct from the Father. A symbol is something that stands for or represents something else. Inasmuch as the Father is seen on the throne; Christ and the Spirit are symbolized by two separate beings before the throne; therefore, there must have been three separate and distinct persons involved in the scenes that were seen by the eyes of John when he got to Heaven (Rev. 4:1).
3. In John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15 the Holy Spirit is spoken of as Another Comforter (Helper), who could not be sent until Christ had gone back to Heaven and was glorified (John 7:37-39; Acts 2:33-36), but would then be sent as a separate person from the Father and the Son. The Greek allos, like the English "another," means another of the same kind, but different from, not the same one, distinct from another, and one more, as proved every place where such word is used (Matt. 2:12; 8:9; 10:23; 13:24, 31, 33; 21:33; 26:7). Otherwise the passages would not make sense.
Common sense alone demands us to understand that when the word another is used it means two or more. It is used of the Father as being Another from the Son (John 5:32). If the Spirit is Another from the Son who promised Him, and Another from the Father who sent Him; and if the Father was Another from the Son, there must be three distinct persons in the Godhead and all three can be called "God." All three persons are distinguished from each other by the word Another in John 5:32; 14:16.
4. A clear distinction is made between "the name of the Father" and "of the Son" and "of the Holy Ghost" (Matt. 28:19). All three have separate and personal names by which they are known, as is clear from this passage and many others.
5 A clear distinction is made between the Son who prays, and the Father to whom He prays, and "Another Comforter" for whom He prays, who was given in answer to prayer, and who came from the Father and the Son as our "Helper" (John 14:16).
6. A clear distinction is made between Jesus who went away as one distinct person (Acts 1:11) and the Holy Ghost who Came to take His plane as Another distinct person (John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15).
7. A clear distinction is made between the Son who is exalted at the right hand of the Father, and the Father who is on the left hand of the Son, and the Holy Ghost who is sent from the Father and the Son to take the place of Jesus among men (Acts 2:3336; 7:56-59; John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15; Rom.8:34; Eph. 1:20; Col. 3:1; Heb. 1:3; 8:1; 12:2).
8. A clear distinction is made between the Son who was already given (Luke 1:35; John 3:16), and the Holy Ghost who was not yet given before Jesus was glorified (John 7:37-39; Acts 2:33-36; 5:31).
9. A clear distinction is made between the Holy Ghost that came upon Mary, and the child that was born of Mary by the Holy Ghost (Matt. 1:18-25; Luke 1:32-35).
10. A clear distinction is made between the Son who can be blasphemed with forgiveness possible and the Holy Ghost who cannot be blasphemed with forgiveness (Matt. 12:31-32; Mark 3:29-30; Luke 12:10). If the Son and Holy Ghost were not two distinct persons they could not be blasphemed with different results. A third person, the Father, must be understood in such forgiveness, for it is the Father that forgives men as the head of the Godhead (1 Cor. 11:3; Matt. 6:9-15; 18:35; Eph. 4:32).
11. A clear distinction is made between Jesus who was bodily in Mary's womb and the Holy Ghost who was not bodily in Mary's womb, and who filled others (Luke 1:15, 39-41, 67-79).
12. A clear distinction is made between Jesus outside of the womb of Mary and the Holy Ghost who filled and baptized Mary 33 years later at Pentecost (Acts 1:14; 2:1-4). The same distinction is made in the case of disciples at Pentecost: The Holy Ghost came and filled and baptized them while the Son was at that time "exalted at the right hand of the Father
God revealed his identity to me (A trinitarian) when I finally (by faith) accepted Jesus' words in John 17, the whole chapter, but primarily in verse 3 of John 17. Of course there are more verses that convinced me as well but John 17 was the start of me moving away from the trinity doctrine, and all this happened while doing my own independent reading/study and because I was told since 2014 that God is a trinity which was Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. I would often, like sometimes right off the back blow past passages in John 17 or just try to figure out why was (at that time) God "the Son" praying to "the Father" when supposedly they are the same God??? If Jesus was God why would he go through with his disciples telling them come let us go and pray to the Father??? To me it made no sense. If I was one of his disciples I would look confused and wonder in my head like "why are we going to pray to God in heaven when you are here in front us God? But of course I know now that the disciples never even had the slightest idea that God was a trinity, and Jesus being one of the members of the trinity.
So when I decided to trust the word of God exactly as it is presented to us I felt from that point on that God removed this invisible veil from my eyes, and it was truly amazing. My relationship with our Lord God Jehovah has been greater than ever before. I no longer have to be confused about who he is. He is right above us, not far at all, looking down to the inhabitants of the Earth like as grasshoppers. Lol. Praise God the Most High. And Praise his only begotten Son Jesus Christ, we love you Jesus.
Since I am no longer a trinitarian I've made it a habit to say after my prayer to our Heavenly Father "I love you Jesus" just so I make it clear that I will not forget about our Lord Jesus Christ, and also because I still fear what Jesus can do to me. He can cast people in their beds for doing wicked stuff so yeah I am afraid at the power Jesus has. This is a short testimony of how God revealed the truth to me through his words in the bible. May God bless you according to his will.
Also notice how Jesus did not say: Unless you believe I am (GOD) you will die in your sins? John 8-24
But instead Jesus said for unless you believe that I am He, *meaning the Son of GOD, the chosen Messiah, you will die in your sins.”*
As MOST believe Jesus is GOD, according to what Jesus said: *they will die in their sins.”*
Thank you for this video! I pray others find this truth. It’s most important!
Telling You All The TRUTH.
Holy Spirit is Not the Father or the Son, The
The Holy Spirit is Not the Father or the Son
1. He has been seen with the natural eyes as a separate person from the Father and the Son (Matt. 3:16-17; Luke 3:21-22; John 1:31-34; Rev. 4:5; 5:6).
2. In Rev. 1:4-6; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6 the Spirit is symbolized by seven lamps of fire, seven eyes and seven horns "BEFORE THE THRONE" upon which God the Father is sitting, and "UPON THE LAMB," which is a symbol of Jesus Christ. The Spirit then could not be the person of God the Father sitting on the throne, or the Lamb w ho comes to the Father on the throne and takes a seven-scaled book out of His right hand. Thus we have three persons and each one is distinguished from each other: The Father on the throne; the Son symbolized by the Lamb "BEFORE" the throne; and the Spirit symbolized by seven lamps also "BEFORE" the throne. The fact that Christ and the Spirit are separate symbols seen at the same time and at the same place both "BEFORE" God the Father on the throne proves that they are two separate and distinct persons from each other as well as separate and distinct from the Father. A symbol is something that stands for or represents something else. Inasmuch as the Father is seen on the throne; Christ and the Spirit are symbolized by two separate beings before the throne; therefore, there must have been three separate and distinct persons involved in the scenes that were seen by the eyes of John when he got to Heaven (Rev. 4:1).
3. In John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15 the Holy Spirit is spoken of as Another Comforter (Helper), who could not be sent until Christ had gone back to Heaven and was glorified (John 7:37-39; Acts 2:33-36), but would then be sent as a separate person from the Father and the Son. The Greek allos, like the English "another," means another of the same kind, but different from, not the same one, distinct from another, and one more, as proved every place where such word is used (Matt. 2:12; 8:9; 10:23; 13:24, 31, 33; 21:33; 26:7). Otherwise the passages would not make sense.
Common sense alone demands us to understand that when the word another is used it means two or more. It is used of the Father as being Another from the Son (John 5:32). If the Spirit is Another from the Son who promised Him, and Another from the Father who sent Him; and if the Father was Another from the Son, there must be three distinct persons in the Godhead and all three can be called "God." All three persons are distinguished from each other by the word Another in John 5:32; 14:16.
4. A clear distinction is made between "the name of the Father" and "of the Son" and "of the Holy Ghost" (Matt. 28:19). All three have separate and personal names by which they are known, as is clear from this passage and many others.
5 A clear distinction is made between the Son who prays, and the Father to whom He prays, and "Another Comforter" for whom He prays, who was given in answer to prayer, and who came from the Father and the Son as our "Helper" (John 14:16).
6. A clear distinction is made between Jesus who went away as one distinct person (Acts 1:11) and the Holy Ghost who Came to take His plane as Another distinct person (John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15).
7. A clear distinction is made between the Son who is exalted at the right hand of the Father, and the Father who is on the left hand of the Son, and the Holy Ghost who is sent from the Father and the Son to take the place of Jesus among men (Acts 2:3336; 7:56-59; John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15; Rom.8:34; Eph. 1:20; Col. 3:1; Heb. 1:3; 8:1; 12:2).
8. A clear distinction is made between the Son who was already given (Luke 1:35; John 3:16), and the Holy Ghost who was not yet given before Jesus was glorified (John 7:37-39; Acts 2:33-36; 5:31).
9. A clear distinction is made between the Holy Ghost that came upon Mary, and the child that was born of Mary by the Holy Ghost (Matt. 1:18-25; Luke 1:32-35).
10. A clear distinction is made between the Son who can be blasphemed with forgiveness possible and the Holy Ghost who cannot be blasphemed with forgiveness (Matt. 12:31-32; Mark 3:29-30; Luke 12:10). If the Son and Holy Ghost were not two distinct persons they could not be blasphemed with different results. A third person, the Father, must be understood in such forgiveness, for it is the Father that forgives men as the head of the Godhead (1 Cor. 11:3; Matt. 6:9-15; 18:35; Eph. 4:32).
11. A clear distinction is made between Jesus who was bodily in Mary's womb and the Holy Ghost who was not bodily in Mary's womb, and who filled others (Luke 1:15, 39-41, 67-79).
12. A clear distinction is made between Jesus outside of the womb of Mary and the Holy Ghost who filled and baptized Mary 33 years later at Pentecost (Acts 1:14; 2:1-4). The same distinction is made in the case of disciples at Pentecost: The Holy Ghost came and filled and baptized them while the Son was at that time "exalted at the right hand of the Father
Amen! I’ve recently come to this understanding and my relationship with God and with Jesus is amazing! I finally understand how am I supposed to love by looking at the amazing relationship between the Father and The Son.
What is the name of the book he is reading from, I would like to find it. And purchase it. Thank you.
When I realize that Jesus himself said "My Father is greater than I " John 14:28 and trinitarian scholars say Jesus is coequal to the Father their basic mathematics background is questionable and they are just doing philosophy not teaching the word of God.
Anyone who believes what Trinitarians say and teach, are out of their minds, simply because the Biblical facts prove Trinitarians are NOT trustworthy people, which is clearly seen by the way they TWIST the truth, of what the Scriptures actually say and mean, by having COUNTLESS FALSE Trinitarian Bible translations, and proved Trinitarian forgeries, with COUNTLESS Trinitarian CONTRADICTIONS against the word of GOD in the TRINITY faith, which is clearly seen as rock solid PROOF that one should NOT believe what Trinitarians say and teach, which should instead be a WAKE UP CALL for the truth seekers.
God said He could swear by no greater.
I cringe when i hear people call Jesus the Father when the gospels just don't say that. We worship the Father in his Son by his death and resurrection and raised by the power of God the Father. The Father dwelt in his Son cause is the Son born of his Father in this flesh but not born after the flesh as we are. In Jesus tearing this former temple down by him and raising a new in him for the Father has life in himself he has given to me to have life in myself Jesus said..the Father will not acknowledge you without the Son
The Bible most certainly says it in Isaiah 9:6 and supports it all throughout the New Testament. There is only ONE who sits upon the throne in heaven. The New Testament states that individual is the Almighty. (Rev. 4:2,8,9,10) The NT states that Jesus is the Almighty, as He Himself declares it. (Rev. 1:8) And, again, we see in the NT that it is none other than The Lamb that stands upon the throne. (Rev. 5:6) No sincere Christian would argue that The Lamb is NOT Jesus Christ.
When the NT writers called Jesus God, their only understanding of that individual was the God of the Old Testament. That is exactly who Christ is.
It was God's spirit in that flesh of Jesus. He tasted death. I think this is delusional teachings. The Devil trying to stir men a different way.
God’s Spirit is in us, does that make us God?
Thank you brothers. Much love and many blessings.
There could not be anything so simple to understand in the whole Bible, that Jesus is the Son of His ONE TRUE GOD, that even children can understand, and yet most of the Christian population cannot understand the SIMPLEST teaching in the whole Bible, and say Jesus is the same GOD He was BORN from, which would simply mean Jesus is not the SON of GOD, if He is the same GOD He was BORN from, and therefore they DENY the Father and the SON, and are deceived.
This is a great discussion. God bless both of you.
I just want to thank both of you and let you know what a blessing you are! I have enjoyed many of your videos over the years. You both present with clarity and love. Thank you again for doing a wonderful work and for sharing with others.
1 Timothy 3:16....without controversy great is the mystery that God manifest in the flesh.........
So what does anybody know about the accuracy of 1st Corinthians chapter 12 verse 7 and 11 that's talking about each individual believer it has nothing to do with God God gave us the full package we decide what we're going to use 1st Corinthians 12:7 through 11 is given to every born-again believer 😊
THANKS for bringing this to the Table Pastor Joe; & Paster J . Dan Gill , I Lust love the TRUETH Amen ! ❤
Telling You All The TRUTH.
Holy Spirit is Not the Father or the Son, The
The Holy Spirit is Not the Father or the Son
1. He has been seen with the natural eyes as a separate person from the Father and the Son (Matt. 3:16-17; Luke 3:21-22; John 1:31-34; Rev. 4:5; 5:6).
2. In Rev. 1:4-6; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6 the Spirit is symbolized by seven lamps of fire, seven eyes and seven horns "BEFORE THE THRONE" upon which God the Father is sitting, and "UPON THE LAMB," which is a symbol of Jesus Christ. The Spirit then could not be the person of God the Father sitting on the throne, or the Lamb w ho comes to the Father on the throne and takes a seven-scaled book out of His right hand. Thus we have three persons and each one is distinguished from each other: The Father on the throne; the Son symbolized by the Lamb "BEFORE" the throne; and the Spirit symbolized by seven lamps also "BEFORE" the throne. The fact that Christ and the Spirit are separate symbols seen at the same time and at the same place both "BEFORE" God the Father on the throne proves that they are two separate and distinct persons from each other as well as separate and distinct from the Father. A symbol is something that stands for or represents something else. Inasmuch as the Father is seen on the throne; Christ and the Spirit are symbolized by two separate beings before the throne; therefore, there must have been three separate and distinct persons involved in the scenes that were seen by the eyes of John when he got to Heaven (Rev. 4:1).
3. In John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15 the Holy Spirit is spoken of as Another Comforter (Helper), who could not be sent until Christ had gone back to Heaven and was glorified (John 7:37-39; Acts 2:33-36), but would then be sent as a separate person from the Father and the Son. The Greek allos, like the English "another," means another of the same kind, but different from, not the same one, distinct from another, and one more, as proved every place where such word is used (Matt. 2:12; 8:9; 10:23; 13:24, 31, 33; 21:33; 26:7). Otherwise the passages would not make sense.
Common sense alone demands us to understand that when the word another is used it means two or more. It is used of the Father as being Another from the Son (John 5:32). If the Spirit is Another from the Son who promised Him, and Another from the Father who sent Him; and if the Father was Another from the Son, there must be three distinct persons in the Godhead and all three can be called "God." All three persons are distinguished from each other by the word Another in John 5:32; 14:16.
4. A clear distinction is made between "the name of the Father" and "of the Son" and "of the Holy Ghost" (Matt. 28:19). All three have separate and personal names by which they are known, as is clear from this passage and many others.
5 A clear distinction is made between the Son who prays, and the Father to whom He prays, and "Another Comforter" for whom He prays, who was given in answer to prayer, and who came from the Father and the Son as our "Helper" (John 14:16).
6. A clear distinction is made between Jesus who went away as one distinct person (Acts 1:11) and the Holy Ghost who Came to take His plane as Another distinct person (John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15).
7. A clear distinction is made between the Son who is exalted at the right hand of the Father, and the Father who is on the left hand of the Son, and the Holy Ghost who is sent from the Father and the Son to take the place of Jesus among men (Acts 2:3336; 7:56-59; John 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15; Rom.8:34; Eph. 1:20; Col. 3:1; Heb. 1:3; 8:1; 12:2).
8. A clear distinction is made between the Son who was already given (Luke 1:35; John 3:16), and the Holy Ghost who was not yet given before Jesus was glorified (John 7:37-39; Acts 2:33-36; 5:31).
9. A clear distinction is made between the Holy Ghost that came upon Mary, and the child that was born of Mary by the Holy Ghost (Matt. 1:18-25; Luke 1:32-35).
10. A clear distinction is made between the Son who can be blasphemed with forgiveness possible and the Holy Ghost who cannot be blasphemed with forgiveness (Matt. 12:31-32; Mark 3:29-30; Luke 12:10). If the Son and Holy Ghost were not two distinct persons they could not be blasphemed with different results. A third person, the Father, must be understood in such forgiveness, for it is the Father that forgives men as the head of the Godhead (1 Cor. 11:3; Matt. 6:9-15; 18:35; Eph. 4:32).
11. A clear distinction is made between Jesus who was bodily in Mary's womb and the Holy Ghost who was not bodily in Mary's womb, and who filled others (Luke 1:15, 39-41, 67-79).
12. A clear distinction is made between Jesus outside of the womb of Mary and the Holy Ghost who filled and baptized Mary 33 years later at Pentecost (Acts 1:14; 2:1-4). The same distinction is made in the case of disciples at Pentecost: The Holy Ghost came and filled and baptized them while the Son was at that time "exalted at the right hand of the Father
Thank you my brother in Christ . I have listened to some of your stuff and I am thankful for your stand upon the truth of God's pure word God's Messiah is Jesus Christ because God himself cannot be the Messiah the last Adam
None of these explanations ever include all of the verses/passages that plainly show Christ to be God Almighty, the Father. Isaiah 9:6 couldn't be more obvious that God Almighty is Jesus Christ. Who is the Only Wise God Our Savior? Jude 25 indicates it's Christ, Isaiah indicates it is the Father in Isaiah 42:8; 43:3, 11, 14-15 and 45:15, 21-22. Luke 1:35 reveals the angel telling Mary of her Divine Conception and says "that Holy One which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God." The Father declares that HE is the Holy One. Isaiah 43:3, 15.
Jesus declares Himself to BE the Holy Spirit AND the Father in John 14:21-23 and Paul confirms this in Romans 8:9-11. He also declares that if you do not believe that He IS the Father, you will die in your sins. John 8:24
No matter how old, wise or preacherly someone may APPEAR, do not buy into anything they are teaching if it does not coincide with God's Word. God's Word makes it clear that God Almighty IS Jesus Christ.
The Pagan world had gods that were hybrids of men and gods. They lived in heaven and they also lived as humans. Abraham had stood against this. Abraham's God is only spirit, not a man. Plato taught the world about hybrid man-gods, that God is Father-and-Son. Jesus came in the tradition of Abraham. But the Greek Fathers of the Catholic Church recreated Christianity after Plato.
Oneness says God is Father and Son; man-and-God. This is Pagan. It is not in the Bible. We have to get the last vestiges of Plato's hybrid man-god out of the Church.
One question.. Why did Jesus allow himself to be worshipped?
Zechariah 12-10 God the farther said, with a spirit and supplication they will look on me the one they have pierced and they will mourn, God telling us that he will be on the cross, long before the time of the cross, this is the farther and Jesus Christ are one, Question, did Jesus christ lie when he said that the farther and I are one? And did Jesus christ lie to Philip when Philip asked Jesus to show us the farther?
From since his birth, they sought after Jesus to kill him, BUT he escaped!
His parents were divinely guided to escape with the child to another! country.
So, who escaped death? God or man?
My father lives inside of me
I don't believe Jesus is the Father, but He certainly is God. God was manifested in the flesh as it says I. Tim 3:16
Manifested = revealed
Jesus was GOD revealed in the flesh of a man on earth
That said, and while Jesus revealed His GOD and Father to mankind, it remains that no man has ever seen GOD the Father, nor heard His voice
Thanks.
My friends, God the Creator is Spirit. Jesus is the human manifestation of the One and only Holy Spirit (Creator) who became Father and Son. Isaiah 9:6. No man can see God except he be manifested as an Angel of God or Son of God. No man can die for our sins except he be perfect. I think you all don't understand Manifestations. And by the way Jesus, speaking of himself, said to Satan, " You shall not tempt the Lord your God." Jesus preached the "Sherma" in Deuteronomy 6:4, and reveal it to his disciples. That is why they baptized the believers in the name of Jesus. Acts 2:38. They fully understood the command of Jesus in Matthew 28:19. There is only One Creator God and not three Gods who manifested himself to angel's and humans. No man nor Angel's can see GOD unless he manifest Himself.
You need to do your own research. And pray about it. Just as God revealed his identity to many of us through his words in the bible, he can do the same with you. I was a trinitarian for about 4yrs from 2014 to 2018 so I know how it's like for you right now. To you it's the truth but I guarantee you that if you move away from any pre conceived believes, any preachers believes, church believes for some time and take a break for a couple days just so your mind can free'd from all those things, then go back to the bible with a fresh mind, not watching any sermons, not learning from someone or something other than the words in the bible, go back to the bible with just you and the bible, that's it, I guarantee you that if you accept Jesus' words for what it says God will surely show you who he really is. And let me just say plainly, this is not some secret doctrine, some secret mystery, this is plainly right in our faces while we're flipping through the pages in the bible. That is the crazy part. Lol.
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Job 13
[7] Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him?
[8] Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God?
[9] Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him?
[10] He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons.
Stephen Seebran?
You simply believe what is NOT taught ANYWHERE in the Bible, *and do not believe what is only ever taught in whole the Bible,* that Jesus is the SON of His ONE TRUE GOD, John 10-36, John 17-3, Mark 12-29.
*WHERE did Jesus say, Before Abraham was, I am (GOD)?*
But instead Jesus said for unless you believe that I am He, *meaning the Son of GOD, the chosen Messiah, you will die in your sins.”*
As MOST believe Jesus is GOD, according to what Jesus said: YOU will die in your sins.” John 8-24.
Eph.5:20
Jesus is so much like his father that we thought he was God.
KJV (King James Version): "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." Mark 10:18.
Plane, not planet. Earth is flat and stationary.
The flesh body of Christ is the Son.... The Father of that flesh body is God a Spirit.... Jesus Christ is God the Father incarnate in the flesh.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Colossians 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
All of God, One single Spirit, dwelled in the flesh body of Christ..... Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Jude 1:25 To the ONLY wise God our SAVIOR, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Who is the HE?
2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
You must believe that God the Father came in the flesh body of Christ!!!!!
God never became a man!!! What oneness person believes that. The flesh body of Christ was a man... The Spirit in that man is God......
If you believe that there are two persons here. And you worship Christ the man as deity, your worshipping multiple gods.....
Well here is a problem I’m seeing. It’s like a different type of Jesus being the Father people are preaching. So not one God in three different modes. But they’re still saying Jesus is Father God. So they’re taking away Jesus being the second person of the Trinity. And the Holy Spirit God as well. So they’re still back down to one God. Because they say Jesus and they think he’s just the Father. The Holy Spirit well he’s just the Father. So they’re not working in modes. Gods just working all the time but they’re all just Father God in one way or another. Have you heard about this?
I asked a church of God a Cleveland Tennessee preacher if he thought Jesus was father God? He said of course Jesus’s father God. Jesus said “I and the father are one. In essence making up three persons of one Trinity Godhead. But that’s not what he meant he met Jesus was literally father God.
I broke this down John 1:1-17, so people may understand that Jesus through his Father, recreated (Genesis 1:2 was before the recreation story. (Job 38:30 & Genesis 1:2) Earth for our salvation (after falling with Satan aka Lucifer). I challenge you to do the same for yourself.
May Jesus be with us. AMEN 🙏🏽🙏🙏🏽 for God the Father's forgiveness of our sin.
John 1:1-18. Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word(Jesus) was with God (the Father), and the Word (Jesus announced his Father)was God. 2 The same was in the beginning(that light and the Word of the world) with God. 3 All things were made by him (Jesus through his Father); and without him(Jesus through his Father) was not any thing made that was made(if Jesus did not become the saviour). 4 In him(Jesus)was life; and the life was the light(and the word) of men(Jesus). 5 And the light(JESUS) shineth in darkness(Genesis 1:2,also Job 38:30, Jude)
Jeremiah 4:23 King James Version.
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.; and the darkness(satan) comprehended it not.
6 There was a man(John) sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same(John) came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light(Jesus), that all men through him(Jesus) might believe)about the Father). 8 He(John) was not that Light(Jesus), but was sent to bear witness of that Light(Jesus). 9 That was the true Light(Jesus), which lighteth(eternal life)every man (The ones who receive Jesus) that cometh into the world(for salvation). 10 He(Jesus) was in the world, and the world was made by him(through the Father, Jesus and salvation), and the world knew him(Jesus)not. 11 He(Jesus)came unto his own(The only Begotten Son), and his(Jesus) own(Brothers in God, the morning stars) received him(Jesus the bright and morning star) not. 12 But as many as received him(Jesus), to them(flesh) gave he(JESUS)power to become the sons of God(Jesus left the spirit), even to them(flesh) that believe on his(JESUS) name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God(The fallen angels cast out of heaven). 14 And the Word(Jesus) was made flesh(Jesus, the only Begotten from the Father), and dwelt among us (The fallen soles of the world), (and we beheld his [JESUS] glory, the glory as of the only begotten [Jesus on earth] of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him(Jesus), and cried, saying, This was he(Jesus The begotten son of God) of whom I spake, He(The Saviour) that cometh after me(John the Baptist) is preferred before me(John): for he(Jesus in heaven[Gods first creation]) was before me(John). 16 And of his(Jesus) fulness have all we(Flesh) received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he(Jesus) hath declared him.
Amen to Jesus🙏🏿🙏❤️🙏🏽🙏🏾
Jesus is one with the Father, God.
Does 'one' means 'sameness' or 'united'(unity)?
If we are called to, even prayed for by Jesus, for us to be 'one' among ourselves, to be 'one' with him Jesus; are we being called to be 'SAME AS' or are we being called to 'be UNITED' AS he is with the Father?
Note: If it's to be the 'same' then we are desired and aspire to be GOD(s)! Some do teach that we are Gods!
'Same as' does not equal to Equal to'.
Eg. He has a car the 'same as' mine/me.
My car is not 'equal to' his.
'Similar to' does not equal 'Equal to'.
Eg. These mangoes are 'similar to' those mangoes we ate yesterday.
Those mangoes are not 'equal to' nor are the 'same as' these mangoes.
'same as', 'similar to', 'like...as' are comparisons of two 'objectS'(entities) that are different.
'Equal to' is a comparison between the same 'object/entity with itself!
If f = g; s = g; & hs = g(trinity) Then
f = s; f = hs; s = f; s = hs! (Nullified trinity)
However,
f = g; s = s(of g); hs = hs(of g); f !=s; s!=f; (Bible)
The FATHER is the numbers behind the letters in the KJV Bible. The FATHER JEHOVAH is the unseen numbers of PI 3.14.
As it was said, I made you a God to the pharaohs, God is a title. John 10:35. The G God owns the small g gods. John 17:5
Authorized (King James) Version
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Jesus also said, “I never knew you “. 👀👂🏿👂
Did Jesus create the universe in John 1:3?
Is Jesus not good when no one is good but God?
No - Jesus did not create the universe in John 1:3 - nor in any other scripture! I used to think that he did. I came to realize that he did not. And, God is indeed good to a degree and extent that no one else is. Yet, others are good to the extent that the Bible calls them good (Matt. 12:35, Matt. 25:23, Luke 23:50, Acts 11:24, etc.).
@@acts2583 John seems to be talking about the Word in 1:3; im open to hear your interpretation as im always desperate to intimately know more about God and His Son.
Its true no one is good because of our thoughts alone, but Jesus is sinless and always working, He would be the epitome of good…maybe ‘epitome’ is the answer we’re looking for; but that would make Him perfectly good.
Anyways id like to understand who is John 1:3 referring to and what are the ‘all things’. Thank you for taking time to discuss it with me
KJV (King James Version): "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." Mark 10:18.
@@theprimecreator-com thats right, so is Jesus saying of Himself that He is not good?
Colossians 1.......Jesus created the universe.. ..Jesus is Lord..
Jesus is God
Jesus is God The SON.
@@evangelistjessecharo-r1q
As there are no such title, or words written anywhere in scripture, such claims prove to be a fabrication of men rather than GOD - follow Jesus, not men
Missed this dude!!
Amein brethren!
In Jesus christ the fullness of the Diety lives in bodily form, the farther/conscience of christ and the blood/lamb/body and the living water of life/bread of life/eternal spirit of God, and the three are in agreement of the testimony of Jesus christ the one and only true living God, who created man in his image, as a body, soul/conscience, and spirit/life, 3 parts as one person with a name Adam or Peter or John. So God is one God in 3 ,body, wisdom, and eternal spirit. 🙏
Why do you speak AGAINST the trinity in one of your other comments here? Are you a shill?
You said this in your other comment:
"Question, what is the name of God that became flesh and dwelled with man, and the name of the lamb that sits on the throne of God, and did Jesus christ lie when he said to Philip that the farther and I are one, when you see me you see the farther.?"
So which is it?
@@user-gs7wb1dt8m you are in the image of God as a soul, conscience and spirit life and body as one person with a name. Almighty God is the eternal Spirit of life and the wisdom/divine conscienceness of God in bodily from in the glorified lamb who sits on His glorious throne, and is now called by His powerful name revealed to the world by the angel of God Gabriel, as Emmanuel, Jesus the christ. And is one and the same almighty God. And the Everlasting father is almighty God in Heaven.
@@user-gs7wb1dt8m We are created in 1 a soul and 2 a spirit and 3 a body as one person with a name, not three persons in a body or spirit/Life. And Almighty God is 1 power/Eternal Spirit of life and 2 wisdom/divine conscienceness, and 3 lives in bodily form in the glorified body/lamb who sits on His glorious throne as one personality of almighty God who gives direction to all things by His powerful word. Not as the trinity of mans imagination.
@@marcusvanrensberg6060 You are mixing the 2 very different doctrines together. God is not "one god in 3". God is ONE single individual. He is ONE Spirit. Jesus IS that Spirit. There is NO THREE. There is ONLY ONE.
@@user-gs7wb1dt8m Jesus christ the glorious NAME of almighty God is the power and the wisdom of almighty God who is the one and only true living God who became flesh and dwelled with man to remove the sins of the world. I SAID ONE ALMIGHTY GOD, AND THERE IS NO OTHER GOD.
Question, what is the name of God that became flesh and dwelled with man, and the name of the lamb that sits on the throne of God, and did Jesus christ lie when he said to Philip that the farther and I are one, when you see me you see the farther.?
Yes, Jesus is the Father. Hallelujah! There is no way to take all that the Bible teaches and come away with any understanding of a trinity, OR of Jesus NOT being the Father.
@@ntxn9336 Isaiah 9:6-7 For to us a child is born, and He will be called wonderful counseller, Mighty God, Everlasting farther, prince of peace,,Therefore Jesus christ is the Everlasting father in bodily form 🙏 ❤
Jesus is the Incarnation. He is the Second Person of the Trinity. You preach heresy because you have been deceived.
Jesus peace be upon him was not the son or father. He was servant of God.He was a human. A black man.
Adam was a black man.
No one knows his complexion just that he was Jewish/ Middle Eastern. This opinion is very biased and has nothing to do with the video.