I like how you explain so simply what took years to understand from other sifus. Power comes from your center of mass. It is that simple. Of course it get a bit more complex if you go deeper, like multiple vectors, joints sequential activation and extension, etc. But the core of Wing Chun is right there. Thank you Nima King.
Very nice, John! It looks like someone knows wing chun! That is correct! We use MULTIPLE VECTORS in wing chun, which makes it very difficult to stop what we are doing.
i am so glad that Sifu Nima King is getting the taste of the real thing from CST Sifu, I truly believed you will be as good as Sifu CST and pass on to others, Thank You Sifu Nima King for all those years you spent in Hong Kong to practice SLT under CST.
It's so weeeeeird ! Amazing, but so strange. I practice taichi and there is a classic saying "energy take root in the feet, is amplified in the legs and guided by the waist"...so it's questioning the way I understand how to emit internal power. It's the same feeling as when I saw Sifu Sergio Iadarola pushing hands sitting on a chair with wheels and was still able to absorb energy and send it back. I love that ! Thank you for sharing :)
I like your teaching style and insights. There are few CST students that can display some his skills. There is another that trained often with and was a friend of CST while they were both under Ip Man. Sifu Derek Fung did much training with and was taught directly by CST while under IP Man. Derek Fung is getting old and has much to teach to those under CST lineage. I really hope for the future of CST WC that some of the well founded students seek Derek Fung while he is still with us.
Near 2:22 the "instructor" lifts his right leg higher to create a stronger push off when he moves the student. It had nothing to do with being relaxed.
Near 5:25 nimahl chops with his hand at the student's hand. Then he switches to striking with his forearm at the student's hand. By doing so he has a much greater striking area.
Near 3:32 the "instructor" places the student's hand in a mechanical disadvantage by placing the palm near the center of his chest as he drives forward thereby causing discomfort on the wrist which made the student move backwards.Had the student placed his palm higher on the chest or near the "instructor's" shoulder, he wouldn't have been able to move him.
In summary, nima is a charlatan playing off static positions to his advantage by placing the student in mechanical disadvantages, changing striking surfaces and creating more force production by altering the height of his steps and passing it off as relaxation power or mental power. Complete quackery but I'm sure he is making a mint off of these students. Predatory capitalism at its finest. He should try being a tv preacher. He would be a billionaire in no time.
Well, I think we can agree that there are a lot of ways to do movements better or worse. And relaxing is one of these tips. The observation that he makes a few improvements instead of just the one he's talking about doesn't discount the importance of relaxation. I wouldn't say he's a charlatan, because the claim was never exaggerated.
Mr. Nima King...I hope ALL those things that Mr. Chu Shong Tin could do that you cannot now do, I hope you are practicing them. There was a point in his life where he could not do them either. You saw those things first hand. I believe that by doing them and failing at them, because of the wing chin mind set you possess, your mind will be forced to figure it out on its own. Even when we are not consciously thinking of something, our subconscious minds are always at work...it never sleeps.
Cheers man and I couldn't agree more with you. This is why Im still doing 4hrs a day of self practice even though I have a 3yr old and 6month old kids :) thanks again for taking the time and sharing your motivation!
Love the two leg jump and punch Nima (although as you mentioned you wouldn't do it in a realistic situation) it reminding me of one of those big red kangaroos that bounce and punch :)
Isn't alignement also part of the equasion, too? but not alignement as in alignement of joints in e.g. a JKD style punsh, but proper "alignement of joint angles. maybe alignement is the wrong term. looks to me like you were punshing down first (demonstrationg the _wrong_ way) and then punshing up, putting the momentum of the jump behind the _correct_ punsh, using center of mass with jump-momentum and connecting it to the punsh with relaxed joints.
yeah I use the term 'interconnection' instead of alignment for what I think you are talking about. That way the position and posture isn't as important as long as the body is in a state of interconnection. Having said this, actual postural alignment is an important aspect at first cause it helps the beginner to relax and experience release and effortlessness and the mind can begin to really go deep in the body. From there, they can explore how to retain that type of connection in other postures and positions
@@MindfulWingChun is that a foundation (of body mechanics/movements/ body consciousness) that can be enhanced by training of, not only relaxed movements (e.g. slow and mindful Siu Lim Tao), but also by hard physical exercises in "inner"-style of training, meaning training of small muscles with isometrics and "kinetic chains" (different core exercises where tension/stability is between points of contact with the ground: hand/s and foot/feet), or does resistance training in general rather stiffen the body up, muscle resisting efficient movement? I think my actual question is: can one articulate a type of mindset for training? where should one feel the most "resistance"/on which frontier to focus? At the moment, I focus on mindful, relaxed breathing in stretches under muscle tension. Thanks for your reply under a 5y old video, I appreciate it!
I guess it lies in the name, _Mindful_ Wing Chun. So taking it from mindful stretching to mindful training. I now do everything with the intent of _Nim Lik , brushing teeth, cooking, walking, opposed to training as a way of getting closer and closer to a goal, I make moving intendful the goal reach it every time I practice, just getting better as a consequence over time.
Mindful Wing Chun just saw it through again. seems key is the jump punch. even standing using mass not support could be realistic to reach so called kungfu principal？
which part? moving dynamically? or the 2 things I mentioned? If you mean The 2 things I mentioned, yes there are, however they belong to the CSTA so I'm not allowed to post it publicly as they have all rights to it. I think one day they will post all their things up. It'll all eventually come out sooner or later :)
Yeah they put some up on their website's members site. but you need to be in the CST lineage to join I believe. The reason behind is that one of the main students who is in the videos is a famous public/polical figure in HK and Macau and so has asked them not to put anything out publicly. I asked them to blur his face but still nothing has happened. But Dont worry, in time I will get them out one way or another :) but until then , you may try and contact them directly (Chu Shong Tin Alumni) to ask
to be honest man at my level I'm just using good biomechanics to produce power. But yes I have tried to experiment with it in the gym. not deadlifts in particular but for example I've hung 40kgs off me and done pull ups and dips
@@MindfulWingChun so with ur mindfulness you could handle more weights? Have you tested it with just your normal muscle strength vs ur mindfulness training?
@@MindfulWingChun I was just thinking if there was really a huge difference then you could train olympic athletes and then it would make that much difference and contribute to our knowledge.
Not unless they actually get on the ground and practice it there. they wont magically be able to know ground work without the practice. We recommend that people actually learn bjj or other grappling if they want to be an all-round martial artist. Our teachers train Carlson Gracie Bjj :)
All boxers hit with mass. Real hitting is a combination of mass and velocity and most people do this naturally although not necessarily mobilising enough mass i.e. they hit with the mass of the arms instead that of the whole body. It's only asian martial arts - and WC is major offender in this - that teach alignment and static structure instead and use it to generate force i.e. push people across the room, e.g. inch punch, mistaking that for hitting when it's pushing (usually). A boxing left hook or right cross have an initial drive from the ground which get the mass moving. It's that which produces the hit and the damage. You know it's based on transfer of mass not static structure because at contact the initially driven leg will often be dragging or even off the ground. Final position of a Thai round kick has no static structural strength - you could push it over with one finger. But in motion (mass and velocity) it'll chop you in half.
I cant argue with anything you said there Robert. And agree that 99% of people who perform the one inch punch just push. What Im referring to in these 2 videos is that you will be able to get enormous power without needing distance to build momentum. Not sure if you've seen my kicking video that went up 3 months ago. check it out if you have time. its a 2 min video
Well, you said "I'm not saying alignment punching is wrong....say that to Tyson...but Tyson is using a fair bit of mass as well". To me, you're clearly implying that boxers tend to use alignment rather than momentum and that you're revealing something new. I'm saying boxers, and pretty much everyone outside of martial arts already knew this. Yes, momentum (MxV) can be achieved over short distances but there will be a trade-off between mass and velocity and there's probably a sweet spot depending on what you're hitting; it's easier to swat a fly with a wrist swipe than shifting the centre of mass in a shoulder charge. My feeling is CST was doing something similar to some "Internal" Tai Chi Chuan type people. And I think that's mechanics. What might be interesting is whether a mental model like "chi" is necessary to do it well. Also, whether it works against someone whose not trying to do the same thing e.g. they're making forceful fast muscular movements. At the end of the day, until "chi people" start knocking out/out grappling *equivalent level* MMA'ers, no-one rational will take it seriously. And since a WC'r is bound to say it, before anyone will believe a kung fu practitioner can deliver a 'death blow' to the throat (or whatever), they first need to prove they can stay conscious long enough to hit anything at all. For which there's no evidence against competent fighters/MMA'rs. An instructor/Master marginally bettering an untrained person with boxing gloves on doesn't count! Sorry, I went off on one then didn't I? ;)
Yeah my student Lawrence has adopted that and uses it in sparring. tyson was using his Center at times the way he switched stance to blindside the opponent
Mindful Wing Chun I could see from your channel that you have been under the "chu shen tin" spell. I respected the man as he was my senior and neighbor from childhood days.chu dedicated his life exploring and unlocking the internal discipline, and had gain a lot of good insights (credits due). But that single-path of a life time and linearly-focused passion had omitted a lot combative elements of the arts. I m 63 now and had been schooled in wc by many Yip man's students since my early teens, advice I have none ...except be balanced. As yet I have not seen a good Gor-sau students of chu, be balanced.
Thanks for clarifying, Howeve I'm not sure what you mean as CST had tens of challenge fight and didn't lose 1! His students in the 60s were also famous in HK and they had people coming down from thailand and taiwan to challenge them. they didnt only do challenge fights on the street, many of them (in the 70s) actually did ring fighting too and did well in Taiwan and HK! In terms of not seen any good Gor Sau, who have you watched in particular? what videos? if you saw them in person where was it and what was their names? Im asking because there is no Gor Sau videos of his direct students online so not sure where and how you are making these assumptions. You said he was your neighbor? may I ask where you were living to confirm this? In terms of being balanced, I spent my teens on the streets of sydney (I left home at 15) and had to fight to survive. when I moved back home after a few years, I became a bouncer in sydney's Kings Cross and had to fight for a living. In terms of doing external practice, I was lifting weights and was 87kgs in my late teens. so the external, hard and fighting style I lived for many years and know exactly what works in a realistic situation (not just in a high pressure tested situation with fellow training partners i.e. Gor Sau). When I came to HK, CST had just began to change his teachings to mainly standing and SNT (before that it was mainly chisau and striking), so he wanted to focus on passing on the internal aspect before he passed away because he had raised many good fighters but non of them had the internal ability like he had. So, apologies if this message is lengthy but I am sure you are uninformed about CST and his students judging from your comment above and hope this gives some clarification. cheers mate and wishing you all the best for 2018 and if you are in HK, would be great to meet in person. Nima
No doubt he taught his students individually and a real teacher is only a guid and does`t want copies of himself. The saying goes `judge a tree by it`s fruits` in this case Ip Man`s fruits were not all Oranges.. but Kiwis, Apples, Bananas etc. Not mass production GMO some schools but natural or organic. Also not all will pass the Art to the next generation but just a few...CST was one of them R.I.P
to be honest, i dont think ip man was as good as Sifu CST. he asked ip man many time about why the form called SLT, and ip man only told sofu CST to just practice, so sifu CST never asked ip man any more.
@@jasonwho100 Are you kidding? He was way better! He actually fought, just as GM William Cheung did! You really can't say CST had much experience if he only fought a dozen times! GM William Cheung fought alongside Bruce Lee against the TRIADS, a brutal syndicate that ran Hong Kong, almost every day, including the use of weapons and multiple opponents. I don't believe that CST is or was as good as GM William Cheung just because of his experience!
My opinion is that Yip Man didn't teach the true secrets to anyone except to a select few. Thats why there are a lot of differences in wing chun instructors and wing chun is now watered down and not very effective. It will still work but not effective as it should. Bruce Lee noticed this so he stepped outside the box to make it work for him. You have to think for yourself and not let your instructor think for you, because your instructor is only teaching you what his instructor taught him.
Ip Man wasnt able to do what Chu Shong Tin was doing and even before he passed away he admitted that. Having said that CST would always speak highly of him... Another important point to consider is someone like WSL was very different in his method of practice compared to CST and he didnt have much 'internal' ability, howver he was an amazing fighter that walked through his opponent seven heavyweight boxers. Ip Man didn't really teach, he merely told people to do the forms and gave pointers about chisau and the principles or fighting. but he didnt teach hands on, it was mostly verbal. He would sit down and smoke and watch them train and give verbal feebabck here and there. That is why all his early students came up with different results in their training cause they were pretty much self taught. And the later students were all taught by the snr. students. SO I'm pretty sure ip MAn wasnt holding anything back from ppl but his teaching method was the way it was and very casual...
Hi Nima. Thank you for your time to reply back to my message. Your explanation to my comment is very enlightening. You are a excellent communicator in your knowledge about Wing Chun and body mechanics. Thank you again and I wish you all the Best in Life. Dhiru
Slow down. Your excitement shows how strongly you understand what you are teaching and what you want to learn to improve yourself. But it is too much in too short a period of time. Let us absorb each bit of information. Actually it's fine because it's video and we san rewind as much as we like. But if you are teaching a class, important points could get lost or misinterpreted.
I like how you explain so simply what took years to understand from other sifus. Power comes from your center of mass. It is that simple. Of course it get a bit more complex if you go deeper, like multiple vectors, joints sequential activation and extension, etc. But the core of Wing Chun is right there.
Thank you Nima King.
:)
Very nice, John! It looks like someone knows wing chun! That is correct! We use MULTIPLE VECTORS in wing chun, which makes it very difficult to stop what we are doing.
i am so glad that Sifu Nima King is getting the taste of the real thing from CST Sifu,
I truly believed you will be as good as Sifu CST and pass on to others, Thank You Sifu Nima King for all those years you spent in Hong Kong to practice SLT under CST.
My pleasure. thanks for the kind message
It's so weeeeeird ! Amazing, but so strange. I practice taichi and there is a classic saying "energy take root in the feet, is amplified in the legs and guided by the waist"...so it's questioning the way I understand how to emit internal power. It's the same feeling as when I saw Sifu Sergio Iadarola pushing hands sitting on a chair with wheels and was still able to absorb energy and send it back. I love that ! Thank you for sharing :)
Yeah I actually met with Sergio in HK a couple of weeks ago and we were discussing this matter :)
I would have loved to be there and listen ^^
Yes very strong. And this block has a great attitude.
👊😊
I like your teaching style and insights. There are few CST students that can display some his skills. There is another that trained often with and was a friend of CST while they were both under Ip Man. Sifu Derek Fung did much training with and was taught directly by CST while under IP Man. Derek Fung is getting old and has much to teach to those under CST lineage. I really hope for the future of CST WC that some of the well founded students seek Derek Fung while he is still with us.
Totally agree Jason. Derek is a champion and people should certainly be taking advantage of the fact that he's still actively teaching Wing Chun.
Thank you for posting these videos - really helpful in understanding the "sinking" force when applied in a constant motion
My pleasure Calvin. thanks for your comment!
Awesome Nima. I love how passionate you are... can't wait for the daily broadcasts 😉
Thank you Mike. See you guys next month :)
Thanks for another good pair of videos, always enjoying watching
Great, thanks
Great video. Looking forward to your 3rd part!
thank you. will be posted next week Xinyu!
so nice.
thank you for your details .
you are so good
:)
Excellent discussion.
thank you!!
Near 2:22 the "instructor" lifts his right leg higher to create a stronger push off when he moves the student. It had nothing to do with being relaxed.
Near 5:25 nimahl chops with his hand at the student's hand. Then he switches to striking with his forearm at the student's hand. By doing so he has a much greater striking area.
Near 3:32 the "instructor" places the student's hand in a mechanical disadvantage by placing the palm near the center of his chest as he drives forward thereby causing discomfort on the wrist which made the student move backwards.Had the student placed his palm higher on the chest or near the "instructor's" shoulder, he wouldn't have been able to move him.
In summary, nima is a charlatan playing off static positions to his advantage by placing the student in mechanical disadvantages, changing striking surfaces and creating more force production by altering the height of his steps and passing it off as relaxation power or mental power. Complete quackery but I'm sure he is making a mint off of these students. Predatory capitalism at its finest. He should try being a tv preacher. He would be a billionaire in no time.
Well, I think we can agree that there are a lot of ways to do movements better or worse. And relaxing is one of these tips. The observation that he makes a few improvements instead of just the one he's talking about doesn't discount the importance of relaxation. I wouldn't say he's a charlatan, because the claim was never exaggerated.
Really? nothing to do with being relaxed?! have you watched any other of the more than 100 videos on this channel?
Mr. Nima King...I hope ALL those things that Mr. Chu Shong Tin could do that you cannot now do, I hope you are practicing them. There was a point in his life where he could not do them either. You saw those things first hand. I believe that by doing them and failing at them, because of the wing chin mind set you possess, your mind will be forced to figure it out on its own. Even when we are not consciously thinking of something, our subconscious minds are always at work...it never sleeps.
Cheers man and I couldn't agree more with you. This is why Im still doing 4hrs a day of self practice even though I have a 3yr old and 6month old kids :)
thanks again for taking the time and sharing your motivation!
Thanks for the video and I really hope you get were you want to be
Thanks for the Kindness Leo :)
Love the two leg jump and punch Nima (although as you mentioned you wouldn't do it in a realistic situation) it reminding me of one of those big red kangaroos that bounce and punch :)
hahaha, its the Aussie in me ;)
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Many thanks Rafael, glad you liked it!
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Isn't alignement also part of the equasion, too? but not alignement as in alignement of joints in e.g. a JKD style punsh, but proper "alignement of joint angles. maybe alignement is the wrong term.
looks to me like you were punshing down first (demonstrationg the _wrong_ way) and then punshing up, putting the momentum of the jump behind the _correct_ punsh, using center of mass with jump-momentum and connecting it to the punsh with relaxed joints.
yeah I use the term 'interconnection' instead of alignment for what I think you are talking about. That way the position and posture isn't as important as long as the body is in a state of interconnection.
Having said this, actual postural alignment is an important aspect at first cause it helps the beginner to relax and experience release and effortlessness and the mind can begin to really go deep in the body. From there, they can explore how to retain that type of connection in other postures and positions
@@MindfulWingChun is that a foundation (of body mechanics/movements/ body consciousness) that can be enhanced by training of, not only relaxed movements (e.g. slow and mindful Siu Lim Tao), but also by hard physical exercises in "inner"-style of training, meaning training of small muscles with isometrics and "kinetic chains" (different core exercises where tension/stability is between points of contact with the ground: hand/s and foot/feet),
or does resistance training in general rather stiffen the body up, muscle resisting efficient movement?
I think my actual question is: can one articulate a type of mindset for training? where should one feel the most "resistance"/on which frontier to focus?
At the moment, I focus on mindful, relaxed breathing in stretches under muscle tension.
Thanks for your reply under a 5y old video, I appreciate it!
I guess it lies in the name, _Mindful_ Wing Chun. So taking it from mindful stretching to mindful training. I now do everything with the intent of _Nim Lik , brushing teeth, cooking, walking, opposed to training as a way of getting closer and closer to a goal, I make moving intendful the goal reach it every time I practice, just getting better as a consequence over time.
@@Rick.Sanchez excellent to hear Rick! Keep it up
I have heard of snake style Wing Chun but Nima shows at 7:55 the secret kangaroo style WC ; )
( it was a good illustration!)
hahahaha
interesting 😬 thus there is no Best stance needed or required right ?
yes, in my opinion, ultimately there is no such thing as a best stance (meaning the external position).
Mindful Wing Chun just saw it through again. seems key is the jump punch. even standing using mass not support could be realistic to reach so called kungfu principal？
Mindful Wing Chun this throw mass is exposing a simple but hidden theme since ...：）
very good i like
Glad you liked it. thanks
are there any footage of sigung doing that? 1:15
which part? moving dynamically? or the 2 things I mentioned? If you mean The 2 things I mentioned, yes there are, however they belong to the CSTA so I'm not allowed to post it publicly as they have all rights to it. I think one day they will post all their things up. It'll all eventually come out sooner or later :)
How to watch them with the agreement of the CST A ? Should we ask to be part of the academy ? (then how)
Thanks
Yeah they put some up on their website's members site. but you need to be in the CST lineage to join I believe. The reason behind is that one of the main students who is in the videos is a famous public/polical figure in HK and Macau and so has asked them not to put anything out publicly. I asked them to blur his face but still nothing has happened. But Dont worry, in time I will get them out one way or another :) but until then , you may try and contact them directly (Chu Shong Tin Alumni) to ask
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Have you tried using your chi for deadlifts does it work?
to be honest man at my level I'm just using good biomechanics to produce power. But yes I have tried to experiment with it in the gym. not deadlifts in particular but for example I've hung 40kgs off me and done pull ups and dips
@@MindfulWingChun so with ur mindfulness you could handle more weights? Have you tested it with just your normal muscle strength vs ur mindfulness training?
@@MindfulWingChun I was just thinking if there was really a huge difference then you could train olympic athletes and then it would make that much difference and contribute to our knowledge.
Very Interesting great video 👍
Cheers :)
Great video!
thank you!!
Mr.King, how much % you reach Grandmaster CST's level?
Hmm. It's very hard to say but if I had to put a figure on it I would say somewhere between 15 and 25 percent. Still have a looooong way to go :)
@@MindfulWingChun whaaaat??
So a trained person can use these ideas while fighting on the ground?
You already know the answer.
Not unless they actually get on the ground and practice it there. they wont magically be able to know ground work without the practice. We recommend that people actually learn bjj or other grappling if they want to be an all-round martial artist. Our teachers train Carlson Gracie Bjj :)
awesome
Thanks Sofwan :)
07:45 If you decided to teach punching while jumping, that could be named as the Australian Kangaroo Kung Fu style :))))
haha, that's a great idea for a Kung Fu style 👌😂
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I'm pretty sure there's no issue from our side for liking the video Ivan
All boxers hit with mass. Real hitting is a combination of mass and velocity and most people do this naturally although not necessarily mobilising enough mass i.e. they hit with the mass of the arms instead that of the whole body. It's only asian martial arts - and WC is major offender in this - that teach alignment and static structure instead and use it to generate force i.e. push people across the room, e.g. inch punch, mistaking that for hitting when it's pushing (usually). A boxing left hook or right cross have an initial drive from the ground which get the mass moving. It's that which produces the hit and the damage. You know it's based on transfer of mass not static structure because at contact the initially driven leg will often be dragging or even off the ground. Final position of a Thai round kick has no static structural strength - you could push it over with one finger. But in motion (mass and velocity) it'll chop you in half.
I cant argue with anything you said there Robert. And agree that 99% of people who perform the one inch punch just push. What Im referring to in these 2 videos is that you will be able to get enormous power without needing distance to build momentum. Not sure if you've seen my kicking video that went up 3 months ago. check it out if you have time. its a 2 min video
Well, you said "I'm not saying alignment punching is wrong....say that to Tyson...but Tyson is using a fair bit of mass as well". To me, you're clearly implying that boxers tend to use alignment rather than momentum and that you're revealing something new. I'm saying boxers, and pretty much everyone outside of martial arts already knew this. Yes, momentum (MxV) can be achieved over short distances but there will be a trade-off between mass and velocity and there's probably a sweet spot depending on what you're hitting; it's easier to swat a fly with a wrist swipe than shifting the centre of mass in a shoulder charge. My feeling is CST was doing something similar to some "Internal" Tai Chi Chuan type people. And I think that's mechanics. What might be interesting is whether a mental model like "chi" is necessary to do it well. Also, whether it works against someone whose not trying to do the same thing e.g. they're making forceful fast muscular movements. At the end of the day, until "chi people" start knocking out/out grappling *equivalent level* MMA'ers, no-one rational will take it seriously. And since a WC'r is bound to say it, before anyone will believe a kung fu practitioner can deliver a 'death blow' to the throat (or whatever), they first need to prove they can stay conscious long enough to hit anything at all. For which there's no evidence against competent fighters/MMA'rs. An instructor/Master marginally bettering an untrained person with boxing gloves on doesn't count! Sorry, I went off on one then didn't I? ;)
100% Tyson kuen bot loi fa. Peek a boo a wing chun like adaptation for the ring.
Yeah my student Lawrence has adopted that and uses it in sparring. tyson was using his Center at times the way he switched stance to blindside the opponent
There are many people who can do this. They just dont teach it. And specially show it on UA-cam for the whole world to view.
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Getting close but not quite...
hi. how do you mean?
Mindful Wing Chun I could see from your channel that you have been under the "chu shen tin" spell. I respected the man as he was my senior and neighbor from childhood days.chu dedicated his life exploring and unlocking the internal discipline, and had gain a lot of good insights (credits due). But that single-path of a life time and linearly-focused passion had omitted a lot combative elements of the arts. I m 63 now and had been schooled in wc by many Yip man's students since my early teens, advice I have none ...except be balanced. As yet I have not seen a good Gor-sau students of chu, be balanced.
Mindful Wing Chun nice studio, BTW.
Thanks for clarifying, Howeve I'm not sure what you mean as CST had tens of challenge fight and didn't lose 1! His students in the 60s were also famous in HK and they had people coming down from thailand and taiwan to challenge them. they didnt only do challenge fights on the street, many of them (in the 70s) actually did ring fighting too and did well in Taiwan and HK!
In terms of not seen any good Gor Sau, who have you watched in particular? what videos? if you saw them in person where was it and what was their names? Im asking because there is no Gor Sau videos of his direct students online so not sure where and how you are making these assumptions. You said he was your neighbor? may I ask where you were living to confirm this?
In terms of being balanced, I spent my teens on the streets of sydney (I left home at 15) and had to fight to survive. when I moved back home after a few years, I became a bouncer in sydney's Kings Cross and had to fight for a living. In terms of doing external practice, I was lifting weights and was 87kgs in my late teens. so the external, hard and fighting style I lived for many years and know exactly what works in a realistic situation (not just in a high pressure tested situation with fellow training partners i.e. Gor Sau). When I came to HK, CST had just began to change his teachings to mainly standing and SNT (before that it was mainly chisau and striking), so he wanted to focus on passing on the internal aspect before he passed away because he had raised many good fighters but non of them had the internal ability like he had.
So, apologies if this message is lengthy but I am sure you are uninformed about CST and his students judging from your comment above and hope this gives some clarification.
cheers mate and wishing you all the best for 2018 and if you are in HK, would be great to meet in person.
Nima
After hearing you. I feel like ip man ruined the future of wing chun by not making sure his other students learned wing chun like mr Tin did.
No doubt he taught his students individually and a real teacher is only a guid and does`t want copies of himself. The saying goes `judge a tree by it`s fruits` in this case Ip Man`s fruits were not all Oranges.. but Kiwis, Apples, Bananas etc. Not mass production GMO some schools but natural or organic. Also not all will pass the Art to the next generation but just a few...CST was one of them R.I.P
to be honest, i dont think ip man was as good as Sifu CST. he asked ip man many time about why the form called SLT, and ip man only told sofu CST to just practice, so sifu CST never asked ip man any more.
@@jasonwho100 Are you kidding? He was way better! He actually fought, just as GM William Cheung did! You really can't say CST had much experience if he only fought a dozen times! GM William Cheung fought alongside Bruce Lee against the TRIADS, a brutal syndicate that ran Hong Kong, almost every day, including the use of weapons and multiple opponents. I don't believe that CST is or was as good as GM William Cheung just because of his experience!
@@redonetwo1 Exactly! He wasn't even as good as William Cheung or Wong Shun Leung, who only knew the modified version.
@@mightymeatmonsta ah here we go! Mightymeat talking up his fraud idol. You're an idiot mate.
My opinion is that Yip Man didn't teach the true secrets to anyone except to a select few. Thats why there are a lot of differences in wing chun instructors and wing chun is now watered down and not very effective. It will still work but not effective as it should. Bruce Lee noticed this so he stepped outside the box to make it work for him. You have to think for yourself and not let your instructor think for you, because your instructor is only teaching you what his instructor taught him.
Ip Man wasnt able to do what Chu Shong Tin was doing and even before he passed away he admitted that. Having said that CST would always speak highly of him... Another important point to consider is someone like WSL was very different in his method of practice compared to CST and he didnt have much 'internal' ability, howver he was an amazing fighter that walked through his opponent seven heavyweight boxers.
Ip Man didn't really teach, he merely told people to do the forms and gave pointers about chisau and the principles or fighting. but he didnt teach hands on, it was mostly verbal. He would sit down and smoke and watch them train and give verbal feebabck here and there. That is why all his early students came up with different results in their training cause they were pretty much self taught. And the later students were all taught by the snr. students.
SO I'm pretty sure ip MAn wasnt holding anything back from ppl but his teaching method was the way it was and very casual...
Hi Nima. Thank you for your time to reply back to my message. Your explanation to my comment is very enlightening. You are a excellent communicator in your knowledge about Wing Chun and body mechanics. Thank you again and I wish you all the Best in Life. Dhiru
Slow down. Your excitement shows how strongly you understand what you are teaching and what you want to learn to improve yourself. But it is too much in too short a period of time. Let us absorb each bit of information. Actually it's fine because it's video and we san rewind as much as we like. But if you are teaching a class, important points could get lost or misinterpreted.
Thanks for the tips! Actually I do get that feedback time to time and it is very good advice.