Old vs New Muscle Cars Drag Racing,Dodge Demon,Hellcat,Charger 69' and more
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- The best drag races between classic muscle cars and modern muscle.Dodge Demon,Hellcat,new ZL1,69' Dodge Charger,Chevy Nova,Chevrolet Chevelle,Shely gt500,classic mustang,Camaro SS
No matter what people say I still think old muscle looks better
And in the right hands be much faster.
Except the wiring issues that start after a few years. Plastic interiors with imitation leather.Low reliability. I can drive my 88 model across the continent and carry in a plastic shopping bag all replacement parts that would stop my car from running, be able to diagnose and fix on the side of the road. No scanner needed, No special tools. Just repair it and go. The longest repair would take an hour and a half or so only because you must drop the fuel tank to replace fuel pump. Go a few years older and the pump is just two bolts on the side of the engine. So yeah someone who has never had the pleasure of being a mechanic through the 70's 80's era would think that. 90 percent of older car repair was Alt. water pump, a/c compressor, ign. module or points, valve cover gasket leak, and a carb. rebuild now and then. There were no instrument cluster ecm, engine ecm, trans. ecm, body ecm, antilock brake ecm, climate control ecm. All of which i have had to replace at one time or another on cars less than 10 years old. So maybe not in every way.
fast nasty, that reminds me of a couple weeks back. i stop in my local convenience store and pull up beside this new camaro with the hood open and some young guy looking perplexed. he tells me he has to wait there an hour and a half for a tow as his oil pressure has bottomed out. he called the dealer and they sending out a tow which he has to wait over an hour for even though the car dealer is about 30 minutes away.
car looked nice but too bulky imo to compare the the 60's era camaros. also those small blocks and big blocks were pretty bullet proof and did not need a computer to tell you what was wrong with them. so easy to work on that old iron and when you roll into a gas station in one today you will have a crowd gather around to have a closer look but not with these modern versions.
i always said if i ever won the powerball i would not buy a new car but would have a stable of old rides.
Maddie koenig was my day I just got done IPhone and then I had opened
All day long
Even though I own a 2016 Challenger scat pack , old school hot rods all the way . If it weren’t for the oldies the new cars wouldn’t be where they are today . The classic styling cues are timeless . Thanks for sharing .
finally someone who is right
Technology always wins in the end, but I'm still stuck in the 60's and 70's when it comes to cars.
Very true but you can put technology in the older cars and you get the best of both.
Dodge has always had more power at higher speeds, winning races at the end.
Bullshit my old school nova runs 7s and still drive it on the street. Good old fashioned bbc
Exactly how I feel, this is like comparing apples to oranges
No money wins speed is money how fast do you want to go? Spend more on that nova and it would be a different outcome
They are Both Badass for their day, I would pick nostalgia over new any day. Perfect time machine!
Yeah, the new transmissions add taller gears too, and more of them.
You can never beat the cool factor of old school muscle
I like the fact most old school muscle are car guys who built their rides, new school just went out and bought some speed.
And downloaded a tune off the internet with the [ENTER] button
Definitely agree with you!
You go Soy Boy, make sure to call AAA to change your flat and let your mother hit the [ENTER] so you can download that tune.
bruceownsu what the hell is a tyre?
Still does not change a thing, Go have your mommy push [ENTER]
I prefer older muscle cars, they have a soul ;)
Jonas O the new ones very much do I'd say some more then some older ones.
Elton Dvds 2 modern muscle cars that have more soul than some of the classics I see on the street are the terminator and demon.
Gottlieb M. I fully agree with you
nobody looks at modern iron and thinks wow that car has soul. i don't care how close to the original they look from a distance they just too bloated and laden down with computers and such to be considered soulish imo.
Say that again, bro. Preach!
An interesting lesson: carbueration vs fuel injection, torque vs horsepower, and gearing differences. In most of the matches, the old timers get the jump off the line (torque, low gearing, high fuel portage), but the youngsters make up and take it in the top end (horsepower, injection). Also, the old timers are typically heavier bodies, with the young bucks not only lighter, but better suspension and traction device systems. Good post. I do agree with an earlier post: a lot of oldies out there running in the 9's that we didn't see here.
Older cars are much lighter.
Interesting to see a 50 year age difference between the new and old muscle. It's pretty amazing that half century-old machines are able to run with the brand new stuff. There really isn't that much of a difference for being 50 years apart. Imagine a 1970 model car racing something from 1920, or fifty years from now an old 2019 car racing a 2069 model, assuming such a thing will even exist a half-century from now. I was a kid 50 years ago and we would have been very disappointed how little cars in 2019 have changed compared to 1969 models. Not only do they not fly, in the case of the Mustang, Challenger, and Camaro they even still have the same names and resemble their 50 year old ancestors.
I still love the classic cars they got style
every make,made a different look,,,new cars all look alike
zeb Johnson // and character, personality, and was fast as a wildcat. Also affordable to the young and young at heart. Sounds like I’m describing the perfect chick and that’s pretty close. All these years and most of the older guys still love them.
Let's go by looks, oldies win every time.
i agree with the exception of the new generation corvettes
Stephen Clint mabye if your blind
yup
Dodge looks amazing
Not really
After the shame of the 80's and 90's era.... it's great to see American Muscle back again.
Chris Norton looks liked he jumped the start too
Chris Norton
Could NOT AGREE MORE
Chris Norton Amen to that brother.
Exactly brother but these modern car lovers will never learn.
Derick Smith .... I don't disagree. Liberals are behind pretty much everything that sucks about America. Doesn't change the fact that most of those cars were weak af for the displacement they had. Damn shame too because some of them were really good looking cars.
No lie, I was at a stop light in my 71' Chevelle with my daughter next to a Ferrari and people were coming from a concert taking pictures and saying I have a nice ride. I was amazed just how people appreciate and respect an old school vehicle
Bro es un muscle Car Bro sea antiguo o moderno también valen Bro eso fue aquí pero si tú estuvieras en Europa los europeos te Iban era a subestimar y hacer que compitieras con el Ferrari aunque podías ganarle fácil a Ferrari Bro te apoyo
No te sorprenderás sea un muscle Car clasico vale como los modernos Bro
still love classic muscle.
The difference is fuel injection and in the transmission and about Fifty years
Charles Moore an Computers
Weak fake trying to promote new technology . Cats building heat out of the garage naturally aspirated turning 9s pump gas
@@dhardclass Yea I'm with you. I hate this turbo stuff but the number some 4 pot even is crazy. Give me old school even hold money a lot better.
Omg 69 chevy nova make my dream car was sold without my consent.amen.
"All racers leave your air conditioners turned off"- a sign of the times. I think some of the new cars could still beat the old iron with the A/C blowing cold, if it weren't for leaving water on the track. I've got a garage full of old muscle, but I have to admit that the best muscle cars ever built are coming off the production lines today. Young guys, enjoy (but try not to kill yourselves 'cause then you miss all the fun).
The facts are real cars guys dont knock another persons car, what ever you drive, whatever your dream cars is...
Enjoy !!
But if you're going to build it, dont go cheap, really build it. You dont buy horsepower and torque, you buy quality and strength and if done correctly it creates massive amounts of power.
Do you remember when GM bailed out the loser Chrysler, they shouldn't have, these Chrysler Cars would never be here now he ha!
@@douglasnetherton9975 Your point is what?
@@douglasnetherton9975 you do realize that gm took that money too, right?
1970 Chevelle SS 454 was quick.
Came to the comment section for all of the drag racing “experts.” Not disappointed. 🏁
Mike Yerke Right there with you
No doubt...
400 hp vs close to 1000 😂
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A bunch of supercharged cars against naturally aspirated ones.
Yup. And the n/a old school was still right there with 'em. Now put a huffer on the old school cars, then we'll have a fair race.
yea it wouldn't be fair if them old schoolies has even a lil boost
That's why the older ones are faster in the starting, they don't have the super charge lag for power, they almost produce power instantly.
@East272 I don't think they're built either.
1972Ventura455ho you nailed it, totally not fair
69 Camaro best looking classic in my opinion just something about them that makes it look better then the old chargers,challengers, and mustangs best looking modern car are the new challengers hands down last true muscle car especially all Motor 6.4 hemi
ya i agree, but honestly my favorite camaro is the 1977 z28, ever since it was in transformers
New and old muscle cars are beautiful. I like them both, except for a few
Ya cant beat the beauty of old muscle. Under the hood, interior, and all around. No computer chip tuning only busted knuckle wrenching on em. No school like old school!
That Road Runner is a fine example...
OLD IS GOLD
I was impressed by how the Demon could close the gap after the driver was asleep when the oldie took off.
For the old warriors, they still hold up well racing against superior technology and products. I still love pre 1972 muscle cars.
It's the transmission! Newer cars have more gears with faster shifting automatics that keep engine in it's optimal power band.
They also have better tech and fuel injection and have a computer to adjust stuff the old uses some tech but not much
they also have superchargers and turbos, not raw engine power like the classics
@@johnsalazard6659 Superchargers were back then also.
yup. its kinda embarrassing that the new cars with their 8 and 10 speeds are only a second or less faster than the 3-4 speed trans old cars.
@@alex_daisybella2275 fuel injection does not make more hp than a properly tuned carb. stop this bs.
Cool to see that AMC Javelin in the mix... great video. The new American muscle is in full force...
I like the ones that are built, not bought by rich kids.
In other words, bought by rich kids.
You have to be a rich kid to buy old school or new school muscle. Poor working people build high performance vehicles out of vehicles that aren't designed for it to start with. Nowadays it's usually an import or a domestic subcompact of some kind, with a manual transmission. Sometimes it's an old pickup truck. That's pretty much my assessment. Of course an early 2000s Mustang GT with the 4.6 liter V8 can be had for a reasonable price, but that's pretty much it.
@@spottedsaint5776 80s and 90s camaros and firebirds can be had for a pretty low price
dufus lol. You don’t think building a muscle car cost money? No wonder your name is dufus
Dumbass comment.
That '69 Dodge Coronet Superbee is dope.
The black one with the red stripe? That's a '68.
I would like to see Chevrolet come out with a Chevelle and Nova again.
Why? They'd be entirely different vehicles due to modern day emissions, fuel economy and safety standards. Only the name would remain the same. I'll also note that Chevrolet reintroduced the "Nova" (as then modern day car) sometime in the mid to later 1980s. It was a sales flop.
Sean Knoll omg! Please
@@peteshea8010 and you would be right to a point, and you could say the same thing about Ford mustang, dodge charger and the Chevy Camaro all of them are not the same cars when they originally produced them. It's just now they are all better, faster, stronger cars. You know like the 6 million dollar man. So what's your point.
Me too. Brag all day about your modern engine stats at the end of the day you are looking at the body style that's siting in the driveway and the engine is something that sits under the hood, not even visible.
kinda sad that the new muscle car drivers needed to be reminded to turn their AC off when drag racing, lol.
I know nothing of the sort. If you don't mind, what does the AC do?
jeffmbohrer like, oh yeah....let me turn off my air
The PA announcement was for ALL racers, not just those in late model cars. (But ALL the late models will have it, and probably very few of the early models, so it was probably directed at the late model drivers.) And just because there was a reminder, doesn't mean the racers NEEDED to be reminded.
drips water on the track
It was either that or ask them to turn their stereo down.
The modern more technologically advanced cars have an unfair advantage. They put out three or four times more horsepower stock than the older cars did stock. Even the older cars modified to the hilt have very little chance defeating the modern cars that are lighter, have better aerodynamics, and performance enhancements. What is your next video ? Teenagers running foot races against old people using walkers ?
Lol. You could say the same thing comparing 30's and 40's cars the the 60's and 70's. Isn't the whole point of muscle cars to modify and tweak the car to make it faster? Why would modern more advanced models be unfair??? Aren't they just the natural evolution of the cars???
i assume paddle shifters also play a big role
🤣😂😆🤠😭🤐
then don't race a new car....especially if there is "Dodge" in the name somewhere....
modern muscle is NOT lighter, the new charger? 4300lbs. the old one? 3600-3800. hell the 1990s dodge neon compact car weighs the same as my big block 1970 dart.
60's muscle car $3500
New 2017 car. $35,000
I'll take old muscle.
Only in the 1960s. What cost $3500 in 1969 would cost $23787.04 in 2017.
Plus even if you did save say $10,000 you would have had to store it for 40+ years, that isn't free either.
it will still be close if you use inflation
Bullshit old school Chevelle and monte Carlos and novas are going for 30k where we live and that's with just a stock 350 in em. Wherever you live you get em for 3k you better buy them bitches up either that or your full of shit.
@@wolfie_studio1082 --He meant new genius.
@@wolfie_studio1082 And on the cheap you can build a powerful 350
Can we just enjoy the video???? Chevy/dodge/ford/Pontiac made the oldies. But also made the new ones. Im sure its proud of both.
No we can't get along. Old muscle cars rule. Just kidding.
@@norristammislideshowmulgre877 Can we at least agree they both sound better than an EV?
This is like comparing Apples and bananas lol.great to see the old muscle out there
Although old more like piston radial aircraft to jets or carbs vs fuel injection or somwhat alike
I liked the '68 Dodge Coronet. That driver did a great job against the newer MOPAR. God Bless1
Massive difference here...the old cars were built, the new cars were bought. Long live real drag teams and us that know the inner working of these machines. Real racer's build their cars.
So the common denominator is the guys with the older cars can actually cut a light, meanwhile 80% of the new car drivers are asleep at the wheel when it goes green. And then the only reason the new cars win is big HP and higher mph at the end...
Mechanics vs Laptops. Skill vs Money.
Ever hear of a dial in?
Mike Doornbosch
The power bands are different , the drive train is different .
@K.·.R. Well back in the day 60's and 70's they would drive to track change the rear gear etc . Race all day and drive home .
That's because the old ones are made of American steel from Detroit when things were better made!!!!!! WHOS WITH ME 🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋
I agree! 👍
Agreed.
@xv70 1 wow how have got made it this far in life? Lol
@@travis4308 Check the crash test of a 59 Impala head on crash with a new Impala. The metal in 1970 was CRAP compared to today. The 1970 Hemi Challenger was no heavier than the 4,000 lb weight of the Demon today.
@@johnspartan98 this may be a little long but I hope you read it all I made a comment on a crash test video of older cars I said thank God they don't make them like they used to this guy comments back to me saying you're thanking God they don't make cars with style anymore I was talking about build quality and ability to survive an accident I love both classic and modern I own both but I feel pretty good that when driving a modern vehicle I have a better chance at surviving
I love old and new muscle cars, but old definitely have more personality and a bit more about them!
Robert Steel I don’t like new muscle, they’re just not the same as the old, you don’t get that “feeling” standing beside a new muscle car like you do the old ones, don’t sound the same, don’t look the same, just ain’t for me
I gave up muscle cars and speed around age 50 (1995), after being a Mustang/Cougar fan for decades. A co-worker let me drive his late model Shelby GT-500 for a few minutes at lunchtime one day, in mid 2012, and the "fever" came back with a vengence. I had always loved the looks of the 1970 Challenger R/T and I went and got a 2013 Challenger R/T, 5.7L Hemi, 6 speed manual, 3.73 limited slip rearend. Love it! Beautiful car, fun to drive, shades of yesteryear!
I think they brought back the Challenger well. but that's about it. Ford seems determined to make a nice mustang and then screw it up. I call it the roller coaster of what could be.
80 regal ls swapped with a lm7 . I’ll pick my ride over any new car . The feeling of building your car is unexplainable . Makes u feel proud when u compare how you got it to how u modded it to your taste .
wait what new technology beats nearly half a century old technology?....amazing!!!
SirWrecksy man these kids dont know what pro mods can do
SirWrecksy dude the new cars shown here have alot more shit in them than the older ones,they ain't on a fair level,there alot of older cars running 8s 9s,
@SirWrecksy Superchargers aren't new technology and that's the only thing separating the new from the old in this vid. This is just a bunch of shots of supercharged cars with plastic bumpers racing naturally aspirated classics. Put a blower on any of those old school muscle cars and they'll destroy the new cars.
100 percent right
We’re comparing fighter jets that flew in Vietnam to the USA ‘s top fighter today. Or how about a WW2 warbird ? Technology marches on but.....if any of you have heard a P51 Mustang fly past at tree top level...it’s like seeing an old classic hemi rumble down the street...well I hope you catch my drift....old muscle has soul and sweat and bashed knuckles. I have a 67 Stingray coupe that I’ve managed to tweek almost 500 hp out of....not bad for a cast iron small block. It has the DNA from my dad and I all over it....and I wouldn’t trade it for the world.
Factory cars are definitely fast. But the fun of it all is sitting in the garage all night on the weekends building your car having fun with friends and family, that’s what these kids are missing. Then the best part is when you’re done which is really never, but close. You take it out and smoke the majority of the factory cars on the street, and you built it on your own, best satisfaction ever. First generation 71 Monte Carlo big block, gapped my neighbor hell cat and cousins RT Hemi. And they both helped build my Monte, we used the hell cat as my barometer.
Who can afford it with the outrageous prices of the old cars and the parts now? I saw a Camaro on Craig’s list and was a total POS with no interior mixed matches body parts and they wanted over $10,000.
Stuck in the 70’s. No surprise that nearly every old car, driven for years by the same old dude, beat the new car off the line. The new cars, new kids, new game, keep practicing guys.🤠
Old classics still look better. Having a hard time calling the newer ones muscle cars even though they RIP ass with the new technology
And style.
Still way better than 80s,90s and early 2000 "muscle", new muscle looks like muscle again.
@@Ryan-el5ns yes no doubt not putting down new muscle although the only new muscle I would consider buying is the challenger hellcat srt the charger so far looks too newish I like the challenger because it looks like an old challenger. As far as value? Cant beat the money for hp and perfor5in newer cars But if I can buy a 69 gto in mint shape for 40k or under I would without a second thought over the new dodges mainly because I know that car will increase in value
Very poor example of old muscle. Lots of old muscle out there running in the 9's.
Look at the new Dodge at 1:04 running 10:15 @ 135. It's probably stock too, unlike the heavily modified "old school" cars running.
BorisW150 for the cost of that dodge demon you can make any older muscle car run low 9s high 8s easily. Still a very nice car 👍
Most new ones have AC and Great sound systems, I was a old car guy but I have seen the light
Brian Kolb Now you a typical modern car lover.
wolvieguy You must have a new definition of stock. For most of the world, stock means "as it comes from the manufacturer."
that 401 powered amc javelin gave him a hell of a good run.
Old/new, both have advantages and disadvantages, the technology is impressive. New Hellcats, Camaros, Mustang's etc are here today because of the love for the originals. My point is, old or new, fast cars are just fun.
Deep pockets can buy a win.
Wak Job ya money helps
100% money
Let me give you some hard info on how racing has worked from the very beginning. Money has always won races. And besides, those aren’t teenagers working for minimum wage driving those old cars either. A lot of these new car drivers can work on their cars top to bottom too. You just gotta have tuning know how also. Same as old cars.
@@justushighfill9933 "you gotta have tuning know how also" WRONG!!! At the end its all about money, just pay someone's to tune it.
EARLY MUSCLE CARS STILL RULE !
Until a bone stock 2.0T Accord races any bone stock "early muscle," realizing the Accord isn't even a fast car by today's standards.
Back in the 60s, any car that could get into the upper 14s was "really fast." The few that could get into the high 13s were "Oh my God Fast." And it's not because of the tires. If it were, the old cars would have delivered trap speeds and 60 to 100 MPH time to speed intervals that were amazing relative to 0 - 60 times and ET. Thing is, they didn't.
Everyone in the comments saying they like old muscle because they're built not bought. That's the beauty of today's world. This type of power is so accessible, and is usually a bargain compared to the European counterparts.
Something about those old school cars and their engines running man they are intimidating 👀😎
I don't see any of these as being "fair competitions" as the late-models are all super-charged and probably have 10's of thousands of dollars under the hoods. I noticed a high incidence of "stalling" by the lates, a fairly dirty trick used to try & get the competitor to overheat and lose power. Not impressed by the fluff. Give me a '70 'cuda with a hemi and a bottle of nitrous, pleeze.
Lol, the best part is 95% of the old cars have WAY more$$$ out of the owners pocket under the hoods than the new ones do.
Also, where the hell did you notice "stalling"?
@@Ep1CxHaCkEr Taking too long to stage while the older car is heating up by waiting .
@@1JUSTGOTLUCKY1 I know what it is. I asked this buffoon where he saw it in this video.
inflation makes anything new cost more now . new muscle is just faster and cooler looking
Old is always better!!
Comment King not always as you can plainly see. I like classics just as much as the next guy but cmon they're dinosaurs compared to these newer machines coming off the line. Classics are mostly just cruisers now.
Yea I think more like archived automobiles
But they are still being used in some countrys with unreconized car companies making carberated cars
Orignal is best .old is gold. old school muscle car look best and fit in budget. Whose with old school muscle car !!!!!!!so give it a like !!!!!please😄😄😄😄
The real thing is that new cars sound like modified vacuum cleaners. I would rather listen to the headers of a v8 muscle car all day everyday and including holidays and would never get tired of the sound. Old School forever.
Buy fast, or Build fast
Build fast
Buy, people say build if they can't afford the other.
Depends on the driver. Someone can build it fast but not know how to drive it
@@dragonbalde101 people also build when they dont want to pay anywhere from $50-100+ an hour for labor that can easily be done at home, regardless of being rich or poor
*Built classic.
Old muscle cars look great but people need to stop calling these cars old muscle cars. if you replace the engine , trans, diff, wheels, inner and outer fenders doors, hood , and suspension. it is not an old muscle car. it is a old looking modern race car. Oh and for the he fixed it in the garage people spending 50K on your old car that is only worth about 10k to make it somewhat quick is not any better than the guy who bought a newer car worth about 50k and spent 10k on making it faster.
just buy want you want and enjoy it and be happy.
Well thats what some car companies are doing usingnold bodies and putting in tech
@@alex_daisybella2275 Dodge is using Mercedes w210 body's Ford's are new and Chevy's are new they have nothing in common with the old cars. Old muscle cars sucked when stock for race cars. A 425 sae hp 426ci hemi in 1968 rated on a modern Dyno at 255bhp and like 200whp.when both cars are stock a modern corola is as fast as a stock old muscle car.
@@johnantonopoulous6381 lmfao, here you go again with those bullshit ass articles.
Old muscle cars: "you young boys will never understand what it feels to be alive, be desired after decades and loved"
New muscle cars: "WE'RE FAST"
I prefer old muscle over every new muscle car....except for the gorgeous ZL1 Camaro 😦🤤😍
Looks alone, old muscle FTW
Mechanics vs Laptops. Talent is getting a carburetor and distributor timing curve setup on a classic car. Any idot can hit the [ENTER] button for a quick tune.
IMRROcom but they still won
Go on and try it.
What's a carburetor?
@@colinl5951 LOL
Choosing ecu tables isn’t straightforward either
These old classics just can’t compete
Impressed that late models get the horsepower to the ground without wheelstanding. Otherwise, heavy metal Malibu, Chevy 11's, Chargers, and Mustangs are so cool.
Had a 67 Chevy ll Nova SS it was nasty fast turned high 6’s according to the track but that was in the 70’s
If you're trying to tell me you had a stock Nova SS that ran 6's...your full of shit!!
I didn’t say it was stock rat turd
I think Bill grumpy Jenkins would disagree!!
probably an 1/8 mile track, so that would be around a 10 sec pass on a 1/4 mile, which sounds about right.
Well, at least the '73 Nova SS and '69 Coronet had good runs. I think they both still lost, though.
@g mat that was actually a 68 Coronet, 68 was the only year with round marker lights
The new era muscle cars are vasty superior to the old stuff in every way!
The new cars may be faster but the older cars look so much cooler!
There was nothing better than modifying a car back in the day to make it run! Now you have to be a goddamn rocket scientist to change to spark plugs. But its nice to see we got some muscle back in them. I remember carburetors and a motor with 5 vacuum lines on them and 3 of them had bolts plugging the lines. Ah lift kits, traction bars and headers! YEAHHHH! Oh yeah don't forget to throw a 6 pack on there! GAS WAS CHEAP!
Man your comment takes me back, put a big smile on my face.
Be nice if you'd leave Gods name out of your comments in the manner you used it!
Just what we need...a fucking jesus frees! Piss off!
Lakewood Ladder Bars, Gabriel HiJackers, Edelbrock Torker (with the straight runners), double pumper carbs, Mallory dual point distributor, manual valve body transmission, the list goes on and on
using a 3/8 swivel is rocket science now? I swear no one under 50 has even looked under the hood of a car made after 1972
Where is the 1969 Dodge Charger ???
i see a 1968 Dodge Coronet Super Bee ,its not a Charger,body is different...
Yes it is a super bee
Ain't none... it was what I clicked on for...
Modern muscle laying down low 10's this is the golden era of American muscle
Im going to be the first one to admit I like the new cars better!
That red mustang brutalized him lol
Good mustang's are awesome
Although I prefer the look and feel of the older cars, I have been saying this for years.
Those old muscle cars are no where near as fast as even a modern sport coupe, let alone modern muscle car. My 2004 350Z could trounce most vintage muscle cars. Heck, a
V6 powered Accord coupe is as fast as most of the 60's muscle cars in original
stock form. Engine power relative to cubic inch has been increased dramatically
in the past 4 - 5 decades. Now, I am talking stock vehicles not modified ones
like most were in this video. A LS7 454 I had dynoed at around 500 hp
but it would not idle smoothly under 1350 rpm. Not a problem since it
was in a boat. Today, they can get that kind of power out of a
300 cid engine and it will run smooth at 700 rpm. Like I said, a lot of
improvements have been made in the last 5 decades with respect to engine
efficiency and power.
stop comparing 1960s to 2020 FFS. go pull your pos vq trumpet motor up to a modernized muscle car from the 60s and see what happens. your 350z is not lighter, and doesnt even have a hp advantage over the old muscle either. a 70 dart swinger would run right with you, STOCK.
I tend to side with those who say the old-school muscle cars look better, but I have a LOT of respect for what they've done with the new-school muscle cars as well!
They're like, WOW! a street-legal sub-10-sec. car straight from the FACTORY!!
The technology in new cars is something else. That being said , I'll take a 69 mustang fastback any day
Not a fair comparison... in some cases there is a 40+ year difference between the two cars. Simple things like tires will make a huge difference!
What, I'm seeing here is like when a Dad beats his son in 1 on 1 basketball for years until on day the son reaches 18 years old and beats his 40 years old Dad.
FET Engineer main diff money
Factor in cherry picking videos, and any result can be reached...
Raymund Brown I find it very suspicious that every single old car was beat that tells me there's a dead cat on the line somewhere.
Yeah they never showed them losing
Amazing how fast the new breed of muscle cars are, but gimme that classic muscle anytime!
10 second, 12 second, you have to love the classics. They were badass before they even knew it.
Old muscle will always have a place in my heart. But nowadays they just do not compare with cars that are street legal pulling better track times.
Turn off your air conditioners ? Damn I don't remember any muscle cars back in the 60's and 70's that had A/C on the track. Must be nice and quick too.
They may be telling the new car guys to turn their air conditioners off because a lot of the old muscle cars didn't even have an air conditioner but you know the new cars all come with air conditioning and these new guys don't know about that
@@pjo1964 yeah they don't want water dripping all the way down the track with the a/c on!!
nice stuff on there, great examples of new school modified cars, would of been nice to see some of the old school fast stuff rather than the driveway built stuff
Los clasicos como estos jamas moriran son bestias echas por los dioses
Put some tech in the old muscle & it's gonna be a different outcome. The new muscle got the tech advantage that's about it. Some of that old muscle is getting out the pocket quicker too. You can hear the old motors drowning out the new muscle sound at idle as well.
But then that wouldn't be a fair comparison would it? The newer stock muscle cars could always modify their cars also. The new muscle cars are much faster than the older generation.
+paul wilcox That's my point. Once the the playing field is leveled with modification & add ons it's gonna be a different outcome.
Oldschoolhiphop some of these kids haven't felt that real American muscle.
Its funny how people make excuses for the old cars . But 20 years ago there wasn't lol
+Yeee Entertainment Facts.
Modern muscle had strong showing, but the last two got owned by a Rambler and a Scamp!
Old (muscle) school still rule!! I remembered assisting my brother
Dropping a 454 in an old Chevelle
SS that he rebuilt. The car was two tone tan and grey, it wasn't about the exterior but what was under the hood! Most of these old cars are a ton or half a ton heavier with the gas carburator instead of fuel injection engines (better engine).
Here's the 1970 AHRA class world record holding LS6 454 from that year, realizing the rule book allowed some modifications. The overwhelming majority of his runs for that season were appreciably slower.
www.chevelle454ls6.com/1970_chevelle_454_ls6.htm
And here's a certified production line stock (but well tuned) 1970 Chevelle LS6 454 on a modern chassis dyno, where I struggled to make a whole 283 rear wheel HP.
www.superchevy.com/how-to/additional-tech/sucp-1102-chevrolet-muscle-car-dyno-wars/
Your BS stories are no match for HARD FACTS.
And don't bother responding with modern times from cars running in "the pure stock drags." That series allows a host of modifications per the stated rules. The faster cars running in that series are much faster than they were back in the day, when they were truly stock.
Believe it that if the older cars were running 6,7, and 8 speed transmissions it would be a totally different story!
Unfair racing put some 9s old muscle car and then we'll see all this new cars are running in the low 10s
There were no 9, 10, 11 or 12 second "old muscle cars" back in the day. indeed, the very fastest production examples were stuck in the mid to upper 13s, despite being lightly modified per the governing rule book:
www.chevelle454ls6.com/1970_chevelle_454_ls6.htm
Some of the drag racing oriented magazines occasionally achieved better results, nearly always through the use of specially prepared factory "ringers" that were then further modified on site and occasionally fitted with 8" wide drag slicks.
I know what happened back then because I have hundreds of magazines from that era, had a dad who was active in the performance car culture during that era and have accessed the related NHRA's records ("Stock" and "Super Stock", both of which permitted a host of mods).
This really isn't fair you're talking two different animals all the newer cars and mostly fuel-injected all-digital chips Etc. It really isn't fair to compare the old muscle cars to the new technology it's not the same thing
You can still compare them by definition.
Yep, that would be like comparing 1940's and 50's cars to late 1960's to 1970's cars, no comparison whatsoever.
No kidding. And let's talk weight factor. Thinner steel, plastic everything, ect. Ok, plug and play in your new ride.....pop the hood and wrench on the classics.
Yes and no. The new muscle cars you're seeing racing here are hardly stock. The old muscle cars you see racing here are nearly all stock or only moderately built. Take an old muscle car that's built, and NOTHING new will touch it.
@@MissionaryInMexico Your 100% right on with that comment, I can still remember hearing when back in the late 60's Budget-Rent-a-Car had a contract with Ford for a fleet of Shelby Mustangs, the guys would rent the cars for the weekends, they would put their own tires and rims on them and take them out to the drags, and these Shelby's were winning all of the races lol and then they would return the cars on Monday morning, lol
Good to see old S.I.R in here, haven't been out there in 30+ years.
Love muscles cars of the 60’s!!
Why was the new demon outlawed was it too fast? Knoxville Tennessee
Yes Mary, per NHRA rules cause of not having a roll bar!! It's considered unsafe at those speeds!!
It's a crime for that Malibu at 8:40 to look like that and run just under fourteen seconds.
Electric A crime but reality. Those badass gto’s, cudas and stingrays we thought were so fast back in the day are sleds by comparison to today’s cars.
in2food Yes but they were stock with the enormous hood scoop and drag tires that Malibu has. Looking and having all that and running just under 14 secs is what makes it a crime IMO.
I don't care I could modify a muscle car and waste a Challenger Hellcar or a modern Corvette. They still consider the modern Corvette a muscle car when it looks nothing like one.
@@in2food bullshit.
@@frigglebiscuit7484 They all ran 13.6 -14.0 back in the day. Running in the 9’s is common now. In 1970 a modified pro stock would run mid 9’s. So how is my statement bs?
Old Chevys never die
Even though I don't own a car, I'll take an old school muscle car over new school anyday.
There was no 69 Charger in this vid, looks like the uploader can't tell the difference between a 68 Coronet and a 69 Charger LoL. And whoever set this compilation up just cherry picked a bunch of shots of new supercharged cars racing naturally aspirated classic cars, I've taken my 68 roadrunner to the strip enough times to tell you first hand that the older cars are generally faster. The new Chargers and Challengers weigh literally 900 pounds more than their vintage counterparts and the only ones that can compete with the classics are supercharged.
Impact's Garage and Gaming your righ
@Brian Smith Actually you should look at some numbers, both the 1970 Chevy LS6 454 and the 66-71 Chrysler 426 Hemi were substantially under rated on paper. Despite their rather mundane factory ratings both engines produced over 500 horsepower straight off the showroom floor and both were capable of low 12's in the quarter on cheap little "pizza cutter" bias-ply tires. Here are some links to some Pure Stock Drag vids in case you don't believe me. You'll never see a heavy ass modern car competing there because they simply don't cut the mustard.
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All muscle-era engines were under rated for insurance purposes, auto insurance companies at the time were charging more and more money as the cars got faster which was making it difficult to sell cars to anyone that wasn't filthy rich.
Also, all those old road tests claiming these cars only ran 13/14 seconds weren't done with quality tires or a properly prepped track. Keep em running like new and give them some proper grip and you can see how they actually run.
@@Impactjunky to add on to that, if you take a 70's true muscle car and put the money in it then you would be beating all these new cars left and right, like slicks and different exhaust and a hood scoop and so on. The price you'd pay for a new camaro would be more than taking a dodge dart and upgrading a already fast lite car and making it faster than the camaro.
Yep... Clicked on for the " '69 Charger"... there was none...
I owned a stock 69 charger RT/SE with 4 speed and 440 w/ 3.54 gears. They were great for their day and an improvement over say, 1964 cars, however when left stock, they did not handle, stop or accelerate very well. By today's standards they were just loud and slow. My new Ford Escape SUV with 2.0 eco-boost is within tenths of a second as fast in 0-60 and 1/4 mile and stops and handles much better than the 69 RT. Having owned both, old and new when new, I can tell you that the old cars looked better because they did not have to meet safety regs. but performed much worse than modern cars and even modern SUVs.
I was really hoping that Coronet, would beat that new Charger. @7:04
Super Bee,
I feel sad every time them new cars went over the old ones I'm always going to be old school till I die
I love old American cars. I have an C4 Vette and a '70 Challenger, and they are fun as hell to drive. On the track though, the only thing that matters is who gets over the finish line first.
Dont get me wrong, old cars have swag and style, and I'd own one of every model if I could, but there's no denying modern muscle with modern handling, braking and drivability.