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  • @sonamoosa2232
    @sonamoosa2232 4 роки тому +51

    Selfdual:
    Y=(a'+b').(b'+c').(a'+c')
    =(B'+a'c').(a'+c')
    =a'b'+a'a'c'+c'b'+a'c'c'
    =a'b'+a'c'+b'c'+a'c'
    =a'b'+b'c'+a'c'
    Thus it's self dual
    2)for n=4....
    2 power 2 power (4-1)
    Ans:256

  • @RahulMadhavan
    @RahulMadhavan 6 років тому +74

    Explanation for number of self-dual expressions - The number of self dual expressions is the number of truth tables when "dualed" that give the same expression.
    1) Number of min-terms for a given number of variables n = 2^(n) because each variable can go to 0 or 1
    2) Number of truth tables for a given number of min-terms = 2^(number of min-terms) because each min term can go to 0 or 1
    3) Consider what makes a truth table "dual-able", it is basically what gives a "mirror image" on the top and bottom half of the truth table. Here we define mirror image as 0s going to 1s and 1s going to 0s
    4) Therefore if we decide top (or bottom) half of a dualable truth table, the bottom (or top) half of the truth table is known. So we can choose values of only top (or bottom) half of truth table and the other side is defined by the duality. So the number of such truth tables where each of the top min terms can go to 0 or 1 = 2^(min-terms/2)
    Therefore total number of truth tables = 2^(min-terms/2) = 2^((2^2)/2) = 2^(2^(n-1))
    ---------
    Example of a mirrorable truth table: F = A, with variables A and B -
    A B | Y
    0 0 | 0
    0 1 | 0
    -------------
    1 0 | 1
    1 1 | 1
    F(dual) =
    A B | Y
    1 1 | 1
    1 0 | 1
    -------------
    0 1 | 0
    0 0 | 0
    which is the same as the first table re-arranged

    • @sriharsha9958
      @sriharsha9958 6 років тому +1

      How it is self dual

    • @RahulMadhavan
      @RahulMadhavan 6 років тому +3

      any truth table where if you make all 1s as 0s and 0s as 1s, then it gives back itself is self dual.
      To get a dual of any Boolean Expression, replace-
      OR with AND i.e. + with .
      AND with OR i.e. . with +
      1 with 0
      0 with 1
      Such tables can be obtained by fixing any values for the outputs in the top half of a truth table, then fixing the complement of those values as mirror image for the bottom half of the truth table. ie. if first output in the table is 1 in the top half, then bottom value is 0, if second value is 0 then second to last value is 1, and so on.

    • @saicharanmarrivada5077
      @saicharanmarrivada5077 4 роки тому

      Nice explanation

    • @mattbennett9027
      @mattbennett9027 3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for deriving the formula!
      I think the "mirrorable" quality is the self-dual. In other words, if F is mirrorable then F is self dual. In truth tables, the ones, or positive logic, corresponds to sum of products. While the zeros, or negative logic, corresponds to the product of sums. Because of the mirror quality we obtain the same expression for either sum of products or product of sums.
      In the example you provided there are two functions, each of which is self-dual. But they aren't dual of each other. It might be said they are complements of each other. You only need one function for it to be self dual.
      The example in the video and the homework assignment are each self dual b/c they are mirrorable. But they are also complements
      Example: Y=AB+BC+AC = (0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1)
      Homework: Y=A'B'+B'C'+A'C' = (1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0)
      They aren't dual to each other though, as we have worked them out.
      Hope that is helpful.

    • @satyasaikumar9177
      @satyasaikumar9177 3 роки тому +1

      thank you sir...i have prepared this as a notes sir

  • @simratsaini879
    @simratsaini879 8 років тому +134

    1. Y=A'B'+B'C'+A'C' is a self dual
    2.When n=4, no. of self dual =256

  • @gopikrishnamoodu6152
    @gopikrishnamoodu6152 4 роки тому +18

    1.Self Dual
    >>>> After expansion of [(A'+B') . (B'+C') . (A'+C')] We are again getting the same expression.
    2. 2 ^ (2 ^ 4-1 )=256

  • @kosuruudaysaikumar9934
    @kosuruudaysaikumar9934 7 років тому +2

    For self dual homework problem: n = number of variables but you give only 3 variables such as A,B,C and the second problem is find number of self dual expressions take n=4. There is no matching for first (Y=A'.B'+B'.C'+A'.C')and second problem like first problem n=3 and n=4.

  • @kamal_pratap
    @kamal_pratap 7 років тому +25

    Sir, What is the significance of Self Dual ? Where do we use these functions?
    Thank you

    • @prashant7000
      @prashant7000 3 роки тому +6

      In digital ic design this helps while deciding nmos and PMOs stack

  • @rd1abrar924
    @rd1abrar924 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks a lot for the H.W. problems. Helps in consolidating the concepts.

  • @eagleeyewolfpaw-birsheoran2196
    @eagleeyewolfpaw-birsheoran2196 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks a lot for homework problems , helps in consolidating the concepts

  • @BlackOpal-dk6iv
    @BlackOpal-dk6iv 7 місяців тому

    SIR I HAVE COMPLETED LECTURE 22 OUT OF 202. TREMENDOUS LECTURE AND THANKYOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE !!

  • @swetachaudhary9220
    @swetachaudhary9220 3 роки тому +3

    thank you so much sir for these lectures. helped a lot. can't describe in words. very very much greatful.

  • @CopyPasteGrow
    @CopyPasteGrow 9 років тому +19

    ok i got it dat (1)self dual (2) 256
    but can give examples of self duals......i can get 8 self duals wid single variable...wat about d others

    • @coreyhulse2573
      @coreyhulse2573 9 років тому +1

      +Mohit Verma I agree with you on number 1, I also got that it was a self dual expression, and for number 2; I also got 256! :)

    • @cheapgamer4U
      @cheapgamer4U 8 років тому

      please explain for the self dual.

    • @jankipatel2392
      @jankipatel2392 5 років тому

      Right

    • @rd1abrar924
      @rd1abrar924 4 роки тому

      One self dual expression is the one he already solved

  • @kunaldhyani
    @kunaldhyani 2 роки тому

    Homework questions solution ->
    1) Y = A'B' + B'C' + A'C' is a self dual
    2) No. of self dual if n = 4 are 256.

  • @debrajkundu9330
    @debrajkundu9330 2 роки тому +14

    Y = A'B' + B'C' + A'C' is Self dual ✅

  • @boddupalliprasad2480
    @boddupalliprasad2480 6 років тому +3

    sir i have doubt on 1st example can please say which boolean rules as to use after converting it into positive logic

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    @ChandanKumar-zl5jo Рік тому

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  • @Dishakandpal
    @Dishakandpal 3 роки тому +1

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  • @eutopiarhythms8743
    @eutopiarhythms8743 4 роки тому +3

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  • @esmailhamdosh4390
    @esmailhamdosh4390 6 місяців тому

    the general rule for dual is F(A, B, C, ...) ----> F(A', B', C', ...)' so a self dual must meet the condition of F(A, B, C, ...) = F(A', B', C', ...)'

  • @jayxcoder
    @jayxcoder Рік тому

    1) Y = A'B' + B'C' + A'C' is self dual
    2) if n=4 then number of self dual expressions is 256

  • @vivekjain4205
    @vivekjain4205 4 роки тому +2

    1)example answer= expression is self dual
    2)example answer= 64

  • @snehashishbanerjee2575
    @snehashishbanerjee2575 3 роки тому +4

    🔴H/W Problem: 1
    Given: Y = A'B' + B'C' + A'C'
    Solution: Y' = (A'+B').(B'+C').(A'+C')
    = (B'+A'C').(A'+C')
    = A'B'+B'C'+A'.A'C'+A'C'.C'
    = A'B' + B'C' + A'C'
    = Y
    ✔️ So, the expression Y is a Self Dual expression. (ans)
    ..........................................................
    🔴H/W Problem: 2
    Given: No. of variables, n = 4
    Solution: No. of self dual expressions = 2^(2^(4-1))
    So, n = 2^8 = 256
    ✔️No. of self dual expressions = 256

  • @danishbhatia1734
    @danishbhatia1734 8 років тому +5

    1. Self Dual
    2. 256

  • @nitikasharma6644
    @nitikasharma6644 6 років тому +4

    Yes it's a self dual expression
    256

  • @Hodophile196
    @Hodophile196 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much sir g.You are the my best teacher.

  • @rajeshprajapati4863
    @rajeshprajapati4863 3 роки тому +6

    Answer for H.W. Problems at 08:43
    *Problem 1 Solution*
    Y = A'.B' + B'.C' + A'.C' (Given)
    For Self Dual, Take Dual One Time.
    Y' = (A'+B').(B'+C').(C'+A')
    Y' = (B'+A'.C').(A'+C') {Distributive Law}
    Y' = B'.A' + B'.C' + A'.A'.C' + A'.C'.C' {Distributive Law}
    Y' = A'.B' + B'.C' + A'.C' + A'.C' {X + X = X}
    Y' = A'.B' + B'.C' + A'.C' {X + X = X}
    Y' = Y
    Taking Dual One Time gives Same Expression. Hence, It is Self Dual.
    *Problem 2 Solution*
    Number of Self Duals = 2^2^n-1 (n=4, which is given)
    Number of Self Duals = 2^2^4-1
    Number of Self Duals = 2^2^3
    Number of Self Duals = 2^8
    Number of Self Duals = 256

  • @mohammedhussein5806
    @mohammedhussein5806 9 років тому +3

    1- the function is self dual
    2- 256

    • @printysehrawat881
      @printysehrawat881 5 років тому

      Can u plz explain how do we identify an expression as self dual or not??

    • @printysehrawat881
      @printysehrawat881 5 років тому

      Can u plz explain how can we find that an expression is self dual or not??

  • @santoshkumar7900
    @santoshkumar7900 2 роки тому +1

    thanks a lots sir for this lecture

  • @rishishrivastav5472
    @rishishrivastav5472 4 роки тому +1

    1 . Self dual expression
    2. 256

  • @Unkno-o4e
    @Unkno-o4e 5 років тому +1

    256 no of self dual exp
    And given example is self dual of itself

  • @hemasaini3380
    @hemasaini3380 3 роки тому +2

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  • @abrahammanoj1256
    @abrahammanoj1256 7 років тому +2

    If n=3 what are the self duals?....as n=2 the self duals are a and a' b and b' c and c'

    • @rd1abrar924
      @rd1abrar924 4 роки тому

      Same question. If you look at his solved problem, you will find anothee self-dual expression of 3 variables.

  • @tariqmath1845
    @tariqmath1845 2 роки тому

    1) self dual
    2) 2^2^n-1 = 2^2^3 = 2^8 = 256

  • @vinodkumavat8437
    @vinodkumavat8437 4 роки тому

    Thanks to neso team ❤️

  • @khushboosaini2496
    @khushboosaini2496 3 роки тому

    Sir in the last lecture you say that, we don't have to complement the variable we keep variable as it is, so why you in 3:15 example no. 1 write A' as it is why you. Not write A'=A

  • @lokeshamara2788
    @lokeshamara2788 8 років тому +1

    1)Self Dual
    2) 2^8=256

  • @tarandeepsingh3588
    @tarandeepsingh3588 8 років тому +3

    no. of self dual expression=256
    problem 1 is self dual

  • @MysteryofScience
    @MysteryofScience 8 років тому +2

    self dual

  • @mdshahidansari9126
    @mdshahidansari9126 2 роки тому

    Glad 2 have u sir 😍

  • @javacoder8733
    @javacoder8733 3 роки тому +1

    Y is self dual
    256 self duals are possible for 4 variables

  • @daliamohamed5525
    @daliamohamed5525 8 років тому +3

    Self Dual & 256

  • @learn_what_I_learn
    @learn_what_I_learn 8 років тому +2

    Problem 1 is a self-dual expression.

  • @MrPhysicist
    @MrPhysicist 6 років тому +1

    good job sir

  • @eshakaprvwan1929
    @eshakaprvwan1929 7 років тому +1

    problem 1:) i think its not self dual
    problem 2:)256
    can u tell is it correct or not???.....

    • @SaiSreekanthhnhd
      @SaiSreekanthhnhd 7 років тому +2

      1)is self dual bro (its a self dual)
      and second one is 256

  • @TheAnkitNainwal
    @TheAnkitNainwal 3 роки тому

    Why we are not appling Redundancy Theorm in AB+AC+BC+AC ? (In 7th minute)
    PLEASE Explain...

  • @cuongnh0720
    @cuongnh0720 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much!

  • @melthabah1158
    @melthabah1158 3 роки тому

    Thank you sir

  • @rishudancinghub295
    @rishudancinghub295 2 роки тому

    Y=A'.B'+B'.C'+A'.C' is self dual
    When n=4 we have 256 no of dual

  • @abhishekthakur6350
    @abhishekthakur6350 5 років тому

    1) Yes it is self dual
    2) 2^2^3= 2^8=256

  • @natural_beauty573
    @natural_beauty573 7 років тому +2

    i) yes its a dual.
    ii) 256

  • @anasasim3856
    @anasasim3856 2 роки тому

    1)Expression is Self Dual
    2)256

  • @ShravanBandaru
    @ShravanBandaru 6 років тому +1

    1) Self dual
    2) 256

  • @laxmanselvaganesan7220
    @laxmanselvaganesan7220 5 років тому +1

    Self dual and 2^8

  • @nikolapantelic9443
    @nikolapantelic9443 6 років тому

    Wait. So A is the same as A*1. When converted to negative logic we get A+1 which is 1, therefore A dual is 1. What am I doing wrong??

  • @Erenyeager07718
    @Erenyeager07718 Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @harshitraj8409
    @harshitraj8409 4 роки тому

    The first expression is Self Dual

  • @priyankamittal8317
    @priyankamittal8317 3 роки тому +2

    n= 3 , self duals = 256
    Y is self dual

  • @OmPrakashGupta-ft5bk
    @OmPrakashGupta-ft5bk 5 років тому

    1.) It's self dual form
    2.) 256 self dual expressions..

  • @neerarajput2164
    @neerarajput2164 7 років тому +1

    Yes it's self dual and 256

  • @quanrumride1027
    @quanrumride1027 2 роки тому +1

    Why AND = 0 and OR = 1 you said in 0:50

  • @printysehrawat881
    @printysehrawat881 5 років тому

    Can u plz explain me that how can we find whether an expression is self dual or not??

  • @sandeeptiwari3655
    @sandeeptiwari3655 5 років тому

    Sir I am not understanding...that what actually self dual is??.....how you say that this is self dual or not... please answered......

  • @gangamaheedhar5299
    @gangamaheedhar5299 6 років тому +1

    This problem is once again explain

  • @aishaagrawal9745
    @aishaagrawal9745 5 років тому

    1. given expression is self dual
    2. 256

  • @yuktadodia694
    @yuktadodia694 2 роки тому

    you are really awesome

  • @ManishKumar-hr8ny
    @ManishKumar-hr8ny 6 років тому +1

    1) It is a self dual .
    2)256 .

  • @ahmadjaradat3011
    @ahmadjaradat3011 2 місяці тому

    thanks

  • @locsei105
    @locsei105 9 років тому +5

    1. It is self dual
    2. 256

  • @debarghadey6819
    @debarghadey6819 4 роки тому

    1.self dual form
    2^8=256

  • @krmanish043
    @krmanish043 6 років тому +1

    yes it is self dual
    256

  • @rksingh489
    @rksingh489 7 років тому

    Sir which codes are called self complementing codes. It was asked in my exam paper plz tell me

  • @loyalmusic6033
    @loyalmusic6033 4 роки тому

    I don't know how to solve First problem. Can you please help me😞😞 am getting confused , Although r video is very very helpful for me . Thanks ☺☺

    • @elainhasheli8793
      @elainhasheli8793 3 роки тому +1

      Y' = (A'+B').(B'+C').(A'+C')
      = (B' + A'.C') . (A' + C') //DISTRIBUTIVE LAW
      = B'.A' + B'.C' + A'.A'.C' + A'.C'.C' //DISTRIBUTIVE LAW
      = B'.A' + B'.C' + A'.C' + A'.C' //IDEMPOTENT LAW
      = B'.A' + B'.C' + A'.C' == Y
      Hope this would help

    • @melthabah1158
      @melthabah1158 3 роки тому

      @@elainhasheli8793 thanks you Elain

    • @elainhasheli4011
      @elainhasheli4011 3 роки тому

      @@melthabah1158 My pleasure ❤️

  • @durgakoteswararao4862
    @durgakoteswararao4862 4 роки тому

    1) self dual and
    2) 256

  • @RAUNAKMISHRA
    @RAUNAKMISHRA 6 років тому +1

    self dual & 256

  • @silaganasneha9719
    @silaganasneha9719 8 місяців тому

    Sir i dint understand at number of self duals formula

  • @a2a827
    @a2a827 3 роки тому

    H/W
    1.Self dual
    2.256

  • @abhinavgaonkar9894
    @abhinavgaonkar9894 4 роки тому +1

    values of c'+c'=?

    • @snehashishbanerjee2575
      @snehashishbanerjee2575 3 роки тому

      As, we know (A + A) = A
      So, (C' + C') should also equal to C'
      Isn't it..?

  • @chidanandadatta4695
    @chidanandadatta4695 4 роки тому

    1. Self duel
    2.256

  • @anuliptamohanty4448
    @anuliptamohanty4448 3 роки тому

    Yep self dual 🙂

  • @shirinnurlyyeva508
    @shirinnurlyyeva508 2 роки тому

    1. yes it is self dual

  • @madhavikatta7346
    @madhavikatta7346 6 років тому +1

    Self dual
    And 256

  • @prashantgaurav3016
    @prashantgaurav3016 6 років тому +1

    Self dual
    256.

  • @selvajothialagar400
    @selvajothialagar400 6 років тому +1

    1.ya it's self dual2.256

  • @__princeMahato
    @__princeMahato 3 роки тому

    ans
    1) self dual
    2) 256

  • @gottimukkalajaswanth3088
    @gottimukkalajaswanth3088 6 років тому +1

    1.it is self dual
    2.256

  • @cricket_world4983
    @cricket_world4983 Рік тому

    yes it is self dual

  • @sushmanaik2228
    @sushmanaik2228 3 роки тому

    Home work
    1.self dual
    2.256

  • @feliciapattinson9591
    @feliciapattinson9591 3 роки тому +1

    What's A'.A' = ????

    • @hiteshgarg9209
      @hiteshgarg9209 3 роки тому

      A'.A'=A'
      this is because A' can be 0 or 1
      and 0.0=0
      1.1=1

  • @shirinnurlyyeva508
    @shirinnurlyyeva508 2 роки тому

    2. 2^8=256 self dual form

  • @vishvajeetyadav818
    @vishvajeetyadav818 2 роки тому

    Self dual & 256 expressions

  • @ankitrana3176
    @ankitrana3176 6 років тому

    Hi, when we convert the and expression to OR expression where negative logic handled ?
    Or converted expression considered as negative expression

  • @JamesMooreDev
    @JamesMooreDev 9 років тому

    Little bit of confusion for 2) if its 4 then 4-1 is 3 so its 2 ^ 4 ^ 3 which is 4096?

    • @zaphyr1371
      @zaphyr1371 8 років тому +3

      2^(2^(4-1))
      = 2^(2^3)
      = 2^8
      = 256

    • @zaphyr1371
      @zaphyr1371 8 років тому

      It is 2^(2^n), not 2^(n^n).

    • @chayanpant480
      @chayanpant480 5 років тому

      @@zaphyr1371 **2^(2^(n-1))

  • @satyanadar730
    @satyanadar730 8 років тому +1

    is it possible to simplify two times dual example...and get back the same function??

  • @shreyksinha6134
    @shreyksinha6134 7 років тому

    Can any one prove the result of self dual expression (2^2^(n-1)) ??

  • @kamalkushwaha4908
    @kamalkushwaha4908 4 роки тому

    1.self dual
    2.256

  • @METubeisthebest
    @METubeisthebest 3 роки тому +1

    Give more hw 😉

  • @svayam2522
    @svayam2522 8 років тому +1

    2. 256

  • @suklasatapathy7540
    @suklasatapathy7540 9 років тому

    for 4 variables I got only 8 self duals, like for variables A,B,C,D:- A',B',C',D'. Can u give some other examples

  • @sakshamkankaria915
    @sakshamkankaria915 6 місяців тому

    it is self dual
    256

  • @nkbanerjee2549
    @nkbanerjee2549 2 роки тому

    Self dual.
    256

  • @nadim94hanna
    @nadim94hanna 6 років тому

    TAKE CARE FOR HW 2
    (2^2)^3 = 2^6!! you multiply the expontenials. so the result is 64!!
    just saw that many got it wrong in the comments.