The Toronto Raptors Are Playing A NASTY GAME...
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People always talk about Raptors turning down 3 first round picks but never talk about the picks most likely being late first or heavily protected picks. Raptors did the right thing by getting actual players back and not crappy picks.
Had they known that Ja would’ve turned into Duke Nuke’m they probably would’ve made that trade. Memphis gonna be in the lottery this year.
Almost all late round picks are just bench guys. Probably 95%.
@@liferealgoodlol no
@@NikoStark1 Picks are gambles and a lot of the players don't pan out. Yes they're still valuable and exciting, but Raptors already have a franchise cornerstone so they would rather get players are who are still young, but have some kind of a track record.
@@liferealgood well thats just 1 of the 3 picks lol - but still time for it to not be top 10 hmm
Masai was able to extract extra value from the Knicks because of the likelihood of OG resigning in NY. Toronto narrowly wins what is still a good trade for both sides.
Raps desperately needed a guy like Quickly a true scoring machine. RJ is only 23, he has time to improve and its a fresh reset in a new environment with a faster tempo. Raps got something as they were going to lose OG for sure.
This wasn't a trade for RJ Barrett...this trade was centered around Immanuel Quickley. The Knicks were not going pay Immanuel Quickley or match any offers for him in the $125+ Million range in Summer 2024, so they had to trade him. RJ Barrett was thrown into the trade to help the salaries match. The Knicks actually did IQ a HUGE favor, because now he gets to be the staring PG in Toronto, and also gets a huge contract in the Summer of 2024. RJ Barrett's huge rookie extension contract already kicked in this season, so he's already taken care of for the next few years regardless of who he plays for.
Ian Begley literally reported that it was for RJ all along and IQ and Precious came later. Knick fans who do not understand will in time jus how good RJ will be. I recognize that Brunsons star power put us in win now mode. We jus couldn't wait for RJ to turn the corner. But make no mistake... He will.
@@brandonjeffries2150 - OMG…I know what was reported. I’m saying that what was officially released to and by the media is not how it actually played out behind the scenes. This was a trade centered around IQ, regardless of what the official false narrative is. And that’s all I will say about that until the truth comes out probably in 10 years…👀😅
If the Knicks needed to move iQ , they should of done it in a separate trade, to get a better return. IQ has value and could of gotten the Knicks a better return.
Agree, was centred around IQ as they are in desperate need of a scoring guard. RJ is a spotty shooter and by the eye test we have already seen his ceiling
@@oc5406 - Nope...not as a bench player currently. Yes, IQ is going to be a star, but right now it's all just potential as far as trading partners (such as Toronto) would spin it. That's the unfortunate thing.
Happy New Year Coop!
To you also bro 🥳🫡
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IQ is going to give Knicks nightmare for this trade
agreed. unlike the Obi trade, having gotten rid of IQ will end up coming back to bite them.
Maybe it's just a trade to show their respective fans, that there is a GM who is "in the building". Wish all the players well, but hardly difference makers.
@@keithball6480 nobody makes trades if they don't think it would make a difference.
@@weedman4206 You may be correct, but I wish the Raptors had management that could make good trades and draft picks. They have been terrible in the past few years with player personnel.
I think you still need a Pascal trade to fully unclog the forward situation... GTJ, RJ and Barnes should be the 2,3,4 combo going forward
Have a Happy 2024 Coop!
To you also big dog
Time for the Toronto Raptors to be Unleashed
Knick fan here! I love the trade. We’ll miss IQ, but we couldn’t justify paying him what he’d command this summer & OG + Precious raises our playoff ceiling this year.
Precious is trash and OG has been highly overrated
@@Slo_MosesOG is not overrated. ESPN pegged him 67th best player in the league which is about right. Solid D a d streaky shooting. Great trade for the Raps tho as OG wasn't fitting.
Precious is trash tho. Had tons of time to develop but didn't.
@@Slo_Moses I agree that precious isn’t that guy, but OG could become a dpoy and he’s a solid 3 and d guy. Whether this trade will work out for the knicks is yet to be seen
Raptor Fan OG's stroke is a little off this year, but if he regains his 3pt stroke you will love his play overall, as for Precious , he's a 50/50 player when he has a good game he can definitely help your team, but consistency is his problem. And don't sleep on Flynn, he's just getting his feet wet, he seems to be getting better the more you play him, Masai didn't sign him out of pity, he's a good player.
The Moranic Morans are still breathing !!! WOW. as A True Knicks fan I KNEW this trade was coming !! Barrett couldn't cover a bed ( if OB rated as 67 best player) and Barrett is dsoooo slow AND Can't jump !! Barrett has 5 blocks in 2 years ( OHHH MY GOD ) FACTS !!!! WE needed height and OB IS A MONSTER ON DEFENSE !!! NEW YORK FANS ARE DREAMERS AND DONT KNOW THE IN AND OUTS ABOUT DEFENSE !!! BARRETT WOULD SCORE 19 AND GIVE UP 35 FACTS !!! ALL I HAVE IS FACTS !!! I HAVE TO THANK TORONTO FOR TAKING BARRETT ( 126 MILLION FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS ) QUICKLY WILL BECOME A GREAT STAR !!! BARRETT IS A BUST. OKKKKKKK PEACE ✌
Knicks send expiring contract (RFA) IQ for Raptors expiring contract (FA) OG. Both teams had to make a move as neither were going to be able to keep the asset. RJ and 2nd rounder for Flynn and Precious. However you want to slice it, the Raptors got value for OG and company as Precious and Flynn were throw away pieces, sad to say. The fact that the Knicks ownership actually okayd another trade with Masai is surprising and Masai wasted no time in fleecing them again. OG wanted to go to NY, he was going to take less than 40m to sign with NY, he already told agents that. So NY paid a hefty premium to get OG in a few months early and to clear out some cap space (RJ). Raptors lost OG who is a premium 3-D player but got potentially their future guard, a 2nd rounder and a project in RJ who the fanbase will salvate at.
Why are people calling this a blockbuster trade, feels pretty standard
there rotation after the trade looks nice IQ and barret were exactly what Tdot needed too many players with the same position and play style siakim OG barnes
3:52 ….. drake wtf is you throwing up 🤣💀
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For a team that hasn't won anything in decades, the Knicks sure are crapped on. When the players are on our team they trash. When they go to another team all of a sudden, they are super valuable, and we got fleeced. OG is what we have been waiting for RJ to turn into and with Brunson here Quick was never gonna get to start. Plus he was probably gonna walk in FA. The Knicks weren't gonna pay 25 mil for a 6th man. OG is the 3&D Wing the Knicks have been missing forever. How the Knicks got fleeced for an underperforming #3 pick making 26 mil and a guy who was gonna walk in FA is beyond me. AND we kept all our 1st rd picks. And if the Raps can't match Quicks RFA offer sheet they will lose him anyway. Its win win for both teams. Nobody got fleeced. We wee gonna lose a guy and they were gonna lose a guy. Even stevens
Raptor's Fan You sound like what I've been thinking along with many Raptor fans. I was thinking we've been waiting for OG to be what Barrett is. OG said he wanted a bigger role on Raptor's but never took the opportunity to take it. Overall he is a good player but doesn't drive the basket like Barrett and Barrett doesn't shoot 3's as well as OG except OG has lost his stroke a bit this year. Defensively OG wins that comparison but hopefully Quickly can make up that loss for us. And we were afraid he would walk and the end of the season because he wants a Max contract, so the fact that we got something is a win. And from what I hear Barrett's ceiling is a lot higher than he's playing and hopefully that will improve with players like Scottie and Paskal for now. Anyway both teams have a lot to look forward to by this trade.
Great take my brother. This move gives the Knicks alot of options to improve going forward. Happy New Year 🥳
They better make OG happy otherwise he can walk next season
Good trade for both teams. Maybe RJ Barret finds his groove in Toronto.
Knicks is the only big city team that hasn’t had a superstar since Patrick Ewing. Knicks are the suckers of the NBA
Wish nothing but the best for RJ and IQ. I get the trade, but damn
I think it'd be amazing if Toronto could swing a trade to a team like Chicago to get a strong Center like an Andre Drummond 💪🏽 Especially with us securing scoring wings like Quick & RJ. Getting a bruiser big would be amazing after losing Precious
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It’s not 2018 bro Drummond is not the answer😂😂😂
No way the Knicks are above the Heat
Toronto needs to finish cleaning up, Pascal is a solid player who can definitely bring back worthy players, younger players who fit the timeline of Scottie who is a star who won’t dim the light of other. That can see the likes of Quickly shine ✨ who has shown what he can do when opportunity is given. RJ also returning to 🇨🇦 can ignite a 🔥 in him that he’s shown glimpse of just has to get consistent. Toronto most definitely can do one of the quickest rebuilds we’ve seen with the right moves. I agree coop I think Quickly with fit like a 🧩 piece.
Soooooo my good sir..... it's easy as a knicks fan.... SPIDA/MURRAY OR BUST MID JANUARY
Murray is next!
@@bigtaskat-hand4742 let us play by the end of the week
Been along time since knick been relevant since Dolan
Coop can you comment on the lowkey Mike K. - TFM beef? And why did the podcast end?
Lastly why haven’t you collabed with Dom?
We just didn’t have the time, it was hard getting everybody on the same schedule. We’re all still homies 😂
Regardless of record? Winning matters. Damn. Scottie Barnes is a good young player, who could POTENTIALLY become a top level player. Is he in the top 10 -15 in the league? I don’t think so.
Crazy coincidence indeed…..
Lol blockbuster
What’s nasty is saying RJ “has untapped star potential” with like 400 starts in his rear view mirror. He is what he is at this point. And it’s not that he can’t mentally do it it’s more because of his physical ability. Dude has no leap and no real foot speed.
Sorry 300 starts.
Excellent opinion. I'm convinced. It's my viewpoint as well, now. Thanks for the heads up.
He’s 23 and averaged 20 last year on a team full of ball hogs.
@@getlikecoop I get he’s 23. But he’s not 23 in season two or three. It’s going on five seasons plus three playoff series . He’s a QTR of the way through this one and still struggles. Randle and Brunson maybe ball hogs but RJ gets his run with the 2nd unit at the start of the 2nd QTR with IQ without Randle or Brunson if I’m not mistaken. He basically runs the 2nd unit and he still plays inconsistent. It would be another thing if he played great then but he doesn’t. If he turns things around in Toronto good for him but he missed several opportunities to make a leap. Plus like I said he ain’t the quickest with the feet or the vertical to finish strong at the hoop. He sometimes looks for contact to his detriment.
@@liferealgood again, not a Barrett fan but people were saying these same things about Brandon Ingram when he was in Los Angeles. Barrett is a jump-shot, some bad habits and maybe just a situation away from changing a lot of people their opinion on him.
I can’t stress enough that I’m not a fan of his game, but he’s not a bad buy-medium for a team that is headed towards a hard rebuild. If he pans out he’s a steal, if he doesn’t oh well no love lost you’ve got Quickley.
Someone explain to me how this improves the knicks?
Defensively. OG is an All NBA defender. Gets rid of RJs terrible contract.
Higher ticket prices
in general, on defense.
specifically, wing defense.
Knicks fans, OG is going to make an instant impact on Defense. Trust. And he's a legit threat from 3
OG is a fake star, he can't generate his own offense. He's the best defender but that's because the league don't want to play defense. He's gonna demand 40m plus during FA. Lastly he's so injury prone
Was it the knicks or The Raptors that stole a bunch of emails and stuff from the other one..?
Neither, Dolan is still mad we dumped Bargnani on him. Raptors hired an assistant away and Dolan is convinced he stole all the videos and scouting reports that have made the Knicks so sucessful.
I think they re-sign Siakim and make some more moves
Pascal to the Lakers would be crazy
Although I would like to see him on the Celtics
Porzingus
Paskal
Brown
Tatum
Holiday
That’s a championship starting lineup
But who do they trade
Lakers have nothing to trade
When the NBA starts using 2 balls that will be a great lineup
As a raptor fan, it´s so damn hard. I can´t believe they traded the future toronto raptors player man. To me OG was more like the next Kawhi.😭😭😭😭😭😭
Me personally they should build a good team around OG
OG's goal is to be DPOY.
Thibs can make that happen.
KNICKS had a logjam at guard. Not only is Divencenzo going to get more minutes but so is McBride who’s underrated and buried on the bench.
Even quinten grimes as well. He was doing so great last seasom but kinda got buried under dinvincenzo this year
Trades make no difference in the grand scheme. Pointless trade
Pascal will stay. The only legit team in the east is Milwaukee
Can we get some NOLA content
Say no more 🫡
@@getlikecoop much love
Given the potential OG/NYK agent connection, this may have turned out as well for the Raptors as conceivably possible.
The Knicks essentially gave Toronto first dibs at Quickley in order to get rid of Barrett.
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Raptors won this trade by a mile. I dont get it.
Dude I don't agree. We got off RJ's terrible contract. Yes, losing Quickly hurts, but I think OG will be really good for us. Just give OG rj's shot attempts lol.
I'd say the Raptors won also, just not by some wide margin.
@@weedman4206 Raptors easily won it cause they got 2 good players for 1 good player. Sorry but Precious is horrible. Maybe he'll figure it out on the court but until he does, he's a huge liability on the offensive end. Malachi Flynn could contribute but no where as much as Quickly did.
@@DJReddyFox IQ is underrated, but RJ is flat out overrated... OG at this juncture is a more complete player than either of them. Flynn is rather mid, while yeah, Precious is trash.
so I still say the Raptors won the trade or whatever, but I'm simply not going to over amplify how much it was won by.
I like RJ, but come on man. RJ is the inefficient scorer you see. I'll miss Quick, but with Brunson he would never start. We turned RJ into what we all wanted RJ to be. I also think OG is about to get activated under Thibs. Lastly, why is no one talking about Precious. He's really interesting and can defend well. I think Thibs can help him. Lastly, this is the starting move, not the final move.
You know NY was OGs number 1 choice in FA? Literally could have had him in 6 months without giving up assets. That alone makes this trade incredibly one-sided. Even worse, OG might walk after realizing he's not getting a bigger role, where the Knicks could end up without IQ, RJ or OG. This wouldn't be a possibility if waiting to outright sign him in FA. The worst part is that even if this team acquired Durant for no assets on a 0$ salary, I still don't think they beat the Celtics.
@@illDefine1 I don’t think they can turn off the salary cap like NBA2k but if they can let me know. Right now I don’t see how you gonna pay IQ $25m a year and OG probably $30m a year in the same offseason while keeping all the assets.
@@illDefine1Knicks were already going to have to pay Quickley and we are at the Apron anyways so it wouldn’t have been possible to sign Og straight up in free agency and keep those players. That being said, we take potentially 45 million off our books between those two players, and add one player who can help us win in the playoffs.
I'll be surprised if Precious isn't soon a Thibs and NY fan fave!
As a raptors fan I will tell you this. OG can’t create his own shots. He’s a really good 3 and D guy but last season he wanted a bigger role which still wants now and when we gave him that role he struggled because his handles aren’t good. If the Knicks give him a bigger role they will see his game deep in production. Just keep him as an 3 and D guy and everything should be good but his goal is a bigger role and he’s no butler who he thinks he is. He’s just defense and defender and guy that scored off assisted 3’s. If the Knicks give him the ball take his man off the dribble they’ll be disappointed in what they get. His handles are not tight enough to be an iso type of guy.
Nah 'bro. It's CANADA! Canada is not nasty. They....something else😏
Something like what?
OG should give the Knicks a more efficient scorer.OG score about 25 pts per game when he shoots the ball 14+ times per game and RJ scores 19 at the same rate.OG is a better 3 point shooter and one of the best defenders in the league while making almost 50% of his shots…RJ may not have as many shots in Toronto as he did in New York bc he’s still the 3rd option and with Quickley as the starting PG those shot attempts won’t be like they were in NY..OG on the other hand will have as many shots that RJ did which may bring his scoring avg from 15 to about 18-20 pts per game…
You do realize on a bad raptor team he was scoring 15ppg
RJ Barrett POV from a Knicks fan: I don't remember ever seeing a player who fluctuates game to game like he does. He played a very solid postseason last year, which was surprising, and outdid expectation. But ... yes ... he can be very frustrating, and struggles with consistency. If you go back through each of his season highlights since he was a rookie, you'll see a constantly evolving jumper. Last year he was the league's worst pull-up jump shooter, which shows he struggles to improve, IMO. Defensively he can also be very out of tune one play, then focused the next. In all honesty, the high expectation as 3rd pick was beyond what he's capable of, and to remove the constant doubt from NY is a good feeling for a lot of fans.
Seeing OG's unrestricted at the end of the year, he could've just come to NY without a qualm. But the Knicks had to get rid of Barrett, who they overpaid and regretted it, there's no doubt. Toronto gets IQ in the deal, and rebuilds with hopes for Barrett to figure it out by the time he hits his prime in the final year of his contract, 2027. He'll make almost $30M that year.
Sounds like your talking about OG. If you think your getting consistency with OG your dead wrong. His last 6 games 29, 22, 7, 5, & 9 points. His defense has not been that great this season either.
What about this trade was blockbuster .....stops watching due to opening comment smh blockbuster lol
IN MASAI WE TRUST 😮💨 COLDEST NBA MOVES OF ALL TIME
He's been horrible for the last few years
@@WuShocks He gave Bobby the reins. This move is vintage Masai
Dumb take, that doesn’t make him a legend lol
I didn't think that I had to say that part, it was a joke
Pascal for Terry Rosier and a future first 😎
one more trade to go..... thats spicyless pascal.....btw ur channel contents are mehhhhh.... lol
Losing to the PISTONS means you're the worst team in the NBA.😢
this post screams " I don't understand"
That's not how it works lol
y is it hate when a person just tells the truth🤔🤷🏿♂️? where does hate come in? nobody hates rj. it's called criticism. nobody is lying on him. it's just facts. everybody so defensive these days. 🔥🚬😎
If u want spice traded… ur slow
So depending on if he makes an all nba team his new contract would be between 50 a year for 4 years and 60 a year for 5 years. If you think he's worth that we ain't the slow ones
Spicey P > fake @$$$ fans 🤫😬
F outa here with pascal trade videos.. he’s a Toronto goat treat him with some fucking respect