I've been an unholy dk main for 3 expansions now and usually when a new expac rolls around DKs are crazy good and then get nerfed into the ground and only come back later on. We wouldn't want to have anything other than mages at the top of that DPS tier list huh..
I think it's refreshing to hear genuine excitement/love for retail for once in what feels like has been a long time. I just want to have fun with the game again and discover new classes/playstyles I haven't bothered to try lol. Might actually try a mage for once, hope to fall in love with Warlock again, and excited for Rider of the Apocalypse. It's cool to see some of those things I had fun in Torghast with in Shadowlands come into play
@@TheComebackKids I don't know wtf THEY PUSHED SECRET TECHNIQUE FOR SUB ROGUE IN DF AND INTO TWW I hate have use secret technique as well as the 5,. 000.000 other buttons on sub
Mained rogue always, quit at the end of legion and came back s4 dragonflight and hate it (havent tried assasination tbf) Sub has disgusting button bloat and feels too bursty) Outlaw my old main just feels in a worse state to what I remember. Played Monk as my main since remix release and it feels great to play, 100% sticking with it.
Wait, a wow channel with someone actually sounding excited about classes / the game? It can’t be. Last time I experienced this was 2015. Now everyone is just a drone. Good job keep it up
Great video, I just got the War Within expansion and I'm jumping into wow for the first time ever. I was wondering if you could do a tutorial on your UI setup? It looks so clean and easily manageable. Would definitely love to make a similar one. Thank you!
@@TheComebackKids That would be great. I'm sure there are plenty out there. Really enjoyed your UI setups and how you went through detailed explanations of the classes!
But now with the removal of ret aura is there any reason besides "good damage/defensives" to bring ret into groups? Other classes also have brez etc. + holy and prot bring devo aura and are arguably more important than a dps
@@lullaonyx6427 yeah but I could just choose hunt(bl) priest (stamina buff) and shammy now with the new raid buff and all these will do great damage like ret and bring something helpful to the table
I think im gonna main evoker and lance is gonna main Warlock. Dude evoker is so fun and way too strong to pass up on haha Warlock has 3 nasty dps specs so its a very safe class to main as well!
I was going to main a druid because I've never played one and currently having fun getting her geared as I was getting bored, but seeing my other 3 toons on here is making me rethink that. ugh. What's your thoughts on Druid? Or should I just stick to lock,mage or hunter? Obviously I can't decide yet now again lol.
Hey, I watched a lot of your vids (and some other people's) about TWW, but somehow war doesn't seem to be mentionned a lot, is it because it's bad or not having a lot of change ? It's a class I liked when I played BFA but I stopped and am coming back to the game now.
Deep diving into warrior, evoker, and Druid today after the changes over the last few weeks So hopefully they are in a better spot! Way more content coming soon!
Thank you for the video.I was planing to play balance druid but seems like even veterans thinking about stop playing the spec for next expansion. I'm a beginner do not know too much things about the classes in general. I've only little bit m+ experience. I'm going to try learning a character then join a guild to experience raid enviroment in war within at least I hope so. Is there a class that is in demand for raids? I hope this is not a bothering question. I've nobody to ask
I remember seeing you in musket guides in New World, and here we continue; speaking of the video, after 4 - 5 years playing tanky specs (ALWAYS PVP, ALWAYS KILLER MENTALITY LOL), I think I'm going to go back to my origins with dark ranger, to see how my new-old adventure goes. Thank you for the videos and the info always.
Here's my two cents on this: Mage: Spellslinger arcane and Frostfire Frost are probably the two strongest specs in mage right now. I wasn't an arcane fan before, but holy crap did the beta change my mind. And Frostfire for frost doesn't change ANYTHING about frost. Just improves something that's already amazing. Fire mage with sunfury is just more of what fire was already good at: A solid crit based spec. DK: Riders of the Apocalpyse is probably one of my favorite sub trees that they put out there. It's just so flavorful for the DK, and the option to always stay mounted in combat while outdoors? Yea, that's never getting taken off. I could care less with how technically "Suboptimal" it is. Also, while minion builds are less damage than disease builds, it's not by much, and in my opinion, it's a lot more fun. Warlocks: So this is probably going to be my first leveling character once the prepatch hits. Been having a blast with demo and destruction. Aff is good, but not that exciting imho. Personally, I plan on going with destro diabolist for that guy, because it's going full tilt into the legion build, and that's just awesome.
@@TheComebackKids That's fair for the Afflock. I just didn't enjoy them, but they are definitely effective. There's really no bad flavor of warlock right now, and I'm super happy about that. Mages are similar, although sunfury for arcane is just... ick. Forgot to add in... I'm definitely playing my boomkin and resto druid again with those sub trees. Largest surprise for me was Resto with Keepers of the Grove... never expected this to work so well and be so much fun. Pretty sure my warband is going to be a mage, warlock, druid, and death knight as the main 4.
Planning on playing retail for the first time in years. Should be an eye opening experience. Looking to have fun. Looking to play rogue, hunter, warlock. Not set on it yet.
How are evoker and druid looking? I’m definitely going to be leveling my evokers because I love playing all three specs, but I don’t know which one I’m going to prioritize when it comes down to gearing and all that. Im also going to be leveling a druid right off the bat just because I have mained feral from the moment I started playing WoW and the class itself is what I’m the most familiar with, but I still don’t have a clue what I’m going to be playing as my overall main or whether it will be a dps, healer, or a tank, and there are so many choices that my head hurts trying to decide 😂😂
What do you think of feral druid ? I like fun but I also like challenging spec. Apart from mage, which class/spec would you recommend to me ? Thanks a lot
Now this is just personally, but I have not had allot of fun with Feral on Beta AT ALL, I tried for quite a while and just could not get into it. On the other hand Unholy has some depth while also being quite fun, I could say the same for Survival!
so far im thinking about running shaman on elemental, ive been a shaman main for years but this expansion they are looking pretty damn good ive been loving playing my fire mage and ele shaman in the beta rn fr greetings from sweden
Hi, wanted to ask if the DK ramp is similar to what they have right now? It seemed very janky trying to DoT with 6-7gcds before starting to dps? (just like casters) And while every other is popping off, im just starting to pop pimples
The biggest differences for unholy DK : vile contagion is 45 second CD (down from 90); unholy blight is tied to dark transformation (removing a key bind); and you can talent into an ability that every 20 festering wounds pops (very quick with vile contagion shorter cd + defile/dnd) makes festering strike into a scythe that puts 2-3 wounds on everything it hits in 12 yards cone. So, you can DT on pull, FSx2, VC, dnd/defile. 5gcds then you are fully ramped for AoE and will be able to keep your AoE going easier and longer. So, still some ramp but much smoother overall
I was going to main Unholy DK, but I felt that the rider of apocalypse tree was rather boring. Then the hunter changes came around and I fell in love with Survival again!
Go watch Zuco's video about feral druid! If you like feral you will stick to it after that video. Feral is decent and bring alot to the table! So check it out with new Bloom burst looks kinda crazy ;)
@TheComebackKids Yeah, sorry didn't want to invade your viewers to another content creator. But seriously that feral video even made me want to go back to feral and I haven't mained feral since WoD 😅 if resto druids fall off from meta maybe it's feral time to shine, since boomkins just stinks. Like your vids man keep it up!
Great video ! Been a feral main forever but we are always treated as the ugly duckling for the druid specs. Maybe time to knock some dust off my ww monk or hunter lol
Hey bro I’m glad you are covering current content. I never played sod, but always watched your content. I’m stoked and hope you continue to cover current content! Much love and hope you succeed 👊🏻
im really gonna be playing ret probably but ive decided to try something new in ele shaman for a main but if warbands really make everything easier might have 3 classes i really play
Thank for this Video. I had zero hype for the war within. But after looking your Video, I´m counting the days till I can play mage or DK and try this shit out to push M+.
So basically, even with the voidweaver hero talents, i can basically, throw my priest in the dumpster because it won't even be not meta but playable and never get accepted into any m+ at all?
what take is that? its a beta, numbers will change a lot. shadow priest was meta in all DF seasons, stop complaining. All you can test at the moment is how a class feels to play
I've always played a MM/BM hunter, but after trying out melee hunter in SOD, I'm a little curious to play SV hunter in retail, and see what it plays like.
as someone who played alot of survival in the current expansion, they removed alot of buttons that felt weird to press and its alot more straight forward now. Highly recommend as its alot closer to SoD melee hunter now...just with a load of movement! :D
Yaay one of my classes are on the list. Survival Hunter , demon warlock, frost mage are my dps toons. Most of them are healers or tanks though. I don’t like dying rofl
When you say arcane mage will be simplified. Does it mean simple for hardcore players but still not that great for casuals who do some keys? Looking for new DPS main since rogues seem to be very disappointing in TWW so far.
So ive been DK main since they came out in WOTLK but i do gotta say i havent played the virulent plague or (whateever its called) muchalways just been disease builds never any wounds im def interested planning on using it if it stays at the top
@TheComebackKids hmm ok but I don't have beta I could proly get it but I don't see all the hype I'd rather wait for the full retail version of it. And does the plague wound only extend up to 6 or 7 targets after that it loses potential aoe damage or something right?
Shaman's rework looked incomplete and enhancement needs a fully decent rework like Survival and an explanation and apologies from Blizzard due to ignoring this class.
Aff is good in retail in aoe scenarios... Garbage in Single. They improved the single target a bit, but I'm still not sold. Don't sleep on Soul Harvester Demo for aoe, its better than Aff in many ways. That being said, Aff might still come on top overall as we get closer to release.
Every one you list except maybe Survival has something over tuned with it. Arcane and Unholy are just doing way to much dmg when compaired to others and will be balanced. Affliction has Wither that is making it more powerful then it is and wither will be tuned. This list is not good to do now as guarantee all but maybe the last one will get nerfed in the next week or so.
Like the positivity in your vibe and comments, this is appreciated and is a breath of fresh air. Thank you. Please, more of this.
Thank you very much! Hope you stick around we have plenty more content coming.
I haven't played WoW in about 17 years and I just recently came back to it and I am having a blast with it! I've been playing DK, Warlock, and Druid.
Love that what specs of those classes?
@@TheComebackKids Unholy DL, Feral Druid, Dem Warlock 🙃
DK and WL players eating good this expansion. Hopefully blizz doesn't nerf it to death ... n decay
They both look so cool and edgy!!!!
I've been an unholy dk main for 3 expansions now and usually when a new expac rolls around DKs are crazy good and then get nerfed into the ground and only come back later on. We wouldn't want to have anything other than mages at the top of that DPS tier list huh..
I hate unholy with a passion.
frost is where it's at.
it's unfortunate that blizzard has neglected. frost for. over a decade
@@cc66bb44 maybe its viable this time with the rework
What the hell is WL
I think it's refreshing to hear genuine excitement/love for retail for once in what feels like has been a long time. I just want to have fun with the game again and discover new classes/playstyles I haven't bothered to try lol. Might actually try a mage for once, hope to fall in love with Warlock again, and excited for Rider of the Apocalypse. It's cool to see some of those things I had fun in Torghast with in Shadowlands come into play
Hell yeah, I feel like the War Within is going to be a great expansion for being able to try a bunch of stuff!
Damn those arcane particles look like they will crush every mid tier PC and below and i LOVE IT!
For real!
Don't you worry, you will be very much CPU-limited long before that :D
It's WoW. It'll run on a toaster oven with a monitor.
Love your energy for retail. New sub here 😊
Thank you man!
You've got to love the DK pet being on passive during the demonstration.
omfg lmfao. jesus lord.... My bad HAHA
KEK
My main is a Fire Mage from all the way back to BC! still trying to play it well after all these years good to hear the news! :)
Hell yeah!
It was going to be rogue, but now you've got me considering givibg monk a go
Dude same. I’m hoping rogue gets a mean face lift cause all three hero talent trees are in an awful spot.
@@TheComebackKids
I don't know wtf THEY PUSHED SECRET TECHNIQUE FOR SUB ROGUE IN DF AND INTO TWW
I hate have use secret technique as well as the 5,. 000.000 other buttons on sub
Mained rogue always, quit at the end of legion and came back s4 dragonflight and hate it (havent tried assasination tbf) Sub has disgusting button bloat and feels too bursty) Outlaw my old main just feels in a worse state to what I remember. Played Monk as my main since remix release and it feels great to play, 100% sticking with it.
I just can't do monk because of how ridiculous it is. The Bruce Lee stuff just doesn't fit in Azeroth. I've tried so many times.
Wait, a wow channel with someone actually sounding excited about classes / the game? It can’t be. Last time I experienced this was 2015. Now everyone is just a drone. Good job keep it up
Thank you very much, we are very excited for the war within
Great video, I just got the War Within expansion and I'm jumping into wow for the first time ever. I was wondering if you could do a tutorial on your UI setup? It looks so clean and easily manageable. Would definitely love to make a similar one. Thank you!
We are thinking about Doing a video like this!
@@TheComebackKids That would be great. I'm sure there are plenty out there. Really enjoyed your UI setups and how you went through detailed explanations of the classes!
nice UI man what are you using? :D
It’s mostly the base
Monk main for years here. Happy to know it’s doing well! Hope it stays strong in mythic+
I think it well
But now with the removal of ret aura is there any reason besides "good damage/defensives" to bring ret into groups? Other classes also have brez etc. + holy and prot bring devo aura and are arguably more important than a dps
I mean solid point
Can't ret bring devo aura as well ? If this is the case it shouldn't hurt their M+ representation, if not it's unfortunate
No not everyone got a br or an invulnerability or the huge assist party that pal ret have... sheesh
@@lullaonyx6427 yeah but I could just choose hunt(bl) priest (stamina buff) and shammy now with the new raid buff and all these will do great damage like ret and bring something helpful to the table
@@lullaonyx6427 You do know that with engineering everyone can have CR right?
I’ve gotta ask what is your Main character as in what is hit class?
I think im gonna main evoker and lance is gonna main Warlock. Dude evoker is so fun and way too strong to pass up on haha
Warlock has 3 nasty dps specs so its a very safe class to main as well!
I was going to main a druid because I've never played one and currently having fun getting her geared as I was getting bored, but seeing my other 3 toons on here is making me rethink that. ugh. What's your thoughts on Druid? Or should I just stick to lock,mage or hunter? Obviously I can't decide yet now again lol.
Druid is always a safe choice for having all four roles/play styles.
Hey, I watched a lot of your vids (and some other people's) about TWW, but somehow war doesn't seem to be mentionned a lot, is it because it's bad or not having a lot of change ? It's a class I liked when I played BFA but I stopped and am coming back to the game now.
Deep diving into warrior, evoker, and Druid today after the changes over the last few weeks
So hopefully they are in a better spot! Way more content coming soon!
@@TheComebackKids Nice, thanks a lot for your content and enthusiasm !! :)
@lilianscicluna2314 it is my pleasure to have the opportunity to make content!
Man these new specs are insane - loving how they look so far. Refreshing to see how fun the gameplay is!
They are ALLOT of fun
Thank you for the video.I was planing to play balance druid but seems like even veterans thinking about stop playing the spec for next expansion. I'm a beginner do not know too much things about the classes in general. I've only little bit m+ experience. I'm going to try learning a character then join a guild to experience raid enviroment in war within at least I hope so. Is there a class that is in demand for raids? I hope this is not a bothering question. I've nobody to ask
As someone who hasn’t played balance in a while it has been fun for me personally on the beta
Also
Very IN DEMAND SPECS
Include
Augmentation evoker
Any type of pally
Shadow priest
I remember seeing you in musket guides in New World, and here we continue; speaking of the video, after 4 - 5 years playing tanky specs (ALWAYS PVP, ALWAYS KILLER MENTALITY LOL), I think I'm going to go back to my origins with dark ranger, to see how my new-old adventure goes.
Thank you for the videos and the info always.
I need to do more testing with dark ranger for sure!
Here's my two cents on this:
Mage: Spellslinger arcane and Frostfire Frost are probably the two strongest specs in mage right now. I wasn't an arcane fan before, but holy crap did the beta change my mind. And Frostfire for frost doesn't change ANYTHING about frost. Just improves something that's already amazing. Fire mage with sunfury is just more of what fire was already good at: A solid crit based spec.
DK: Riders of the Apocalpyse is probably one of my favorite sub trees that they put out there. It's just so flavorful for the DK, and the option to always stay mounted in combat while outdoors? Yea, that's never getting taken off. I could care less with how technically "Suboptimal" it is. Also, while minion builds are less damage than disease builds, it's not by much, and in my opinion, it's a lot more fun.
Warlocks: So this is probably going to be my first leveling character once the prepatch hits. Been having a blast with demo and destruction. Aff is good, but not that exciting imho. Personally, I plan on going with destro diabolist for that guy, because it's going full tilt into the legion build, and that's just awesome.
I think you hit the nail on the head with most of this, except Aff I have been having a TON of fun with
@@TheComebackKids That's fair for the Afflock. I just didn't enjoy them, but they are definitely effective. There's really no bad flavor of warlock right now, and I'm super happy about that. Mages are similar, although sunfury for arcane is just... ick.
Forgot to add in... I'm definitely playing my boomkin and resto druid again with those sub trees. Largest surprise for me was Resto with Keepers of the Grove... never expected this to work so well and be so much fun.
Pretty sure my warband is going to be a mage, warlock, druid, and death knight as the main 4.
So if Arcane has been re-worked as you say is it still a 16 button opener/ramp?
No lol it has been much simplified
@@TheComebackKids If you have to roll with one on release, Fire or Arcane?
I think they are both a blast, but I do prefer Arcane at this present moment.
Enhancement Shaman or Survival Hunter what do you think is better for M+ and Raid ???
We will see what happens with tuning, but at the moment survival:
How does Enhancement shaman stand? i was planning to main that, and i don't care if it's the best, but is it fun?
I really REALLY want too like Enh and it is just not fun personally to me!
How we feeling about BM hunter ?
I don’t love BM personally I just find it a little too simple for my liking, but it is pretty good
Planning on playing retail for the first time in years. Should be an eye opening experience. Looking to have fun. Looking to play rogue, hunter, warlock. Not set on it yet.
No matter what comes of the war within, the launch will be a blast as every launch is!
Hell yeah my main spec since TBC vanilla (2007) has been arcane. Hope it stays this fun! Beta testing so far has been a blaaaaaast!
Let’s goooo
How’s demon hunter lookin? I made one on the pandaria event and really liked it
It’s doing pretty good actually
I'll be maining a lock! Never mained a ranged before, excited!
Let’s gooooo
Is unholy good? I have never seen one top the meters in M+. Just asking out of curiosity, im a tank main.
They have been top tier in raid like all of Dragonflight
@@TheComebackKids Yeah that’s for sure! That’s why I asked for M+
I mean they weren’t in the god comp but they are good, they have some massive AOE
@@TheComebackKids Thanks man! I’ve always thought they look badass so now I will roll one for TWW. Thanks for the replies! keep up the great content!
@Maximo-Maximus of course, yes unholy had two REALLY cool hero talent trees as well which is sick!
How are evoker and druid looking? I’m definitely going to be leveling my evokers because I love playing all three specs, but I don’t know which one I’m going to prioritize when it comes down to gearing and all that. Im also going to be leveling a druid right off the bat just because I have mained feral from the moment I started playing WoW and the class itself is what I’m the most familiar with, but I still don’t have a clue what I’m going to be playing as my overall main or whether it will be a dps, healer, or a tank, and there are so many choices that my head hurts trying to decide 😂😂
Evoker is doing good actually, while I have heard allot of people are not too fond of the druid changes.
What do you think of feral druid ?
I like fun but I also like challenging spec.
Apart from mage, which class/spec would you recommend to me ?
Thanks a lot
Now this is just personally, but I have not had allot of fun with Feral on Beta AT ALL, I tried for quite a while and just could not get into it. On the other hand Unholy has some depth while also being quite fun, I could say the same for Survival!
so far im thinking about running shaman on elemental, ive been a shaman main for years but this expansion they are looking pretty damn good
ive been loving playing my fire mage and ele shaman in the beta rn fr
greetings from sweden
Fire and ele are both so much fun right now! And welcome Sweden 🇸🇪!!!!
@@TheComebackKids they are a lot of fun, fire mage does out of this world dps and I love it
Warrior and hunter, Will mostly focus on pvp as always but seeing the damage on survival might make me fully main hunter this expansion
Survival plays really fun which is the most important part
Hi, wanted to ask if the DK ramp is similar to what they have right now? It seemed very janky trying to DoT with 6-7gcds before starting to dps? (just like casters) And while every other is popping off, im just starting to pop pimples
There is still a ramp for sure, but It doesn’t feel too bad on the beta
@@TheComebackKids Thank you! Has the rotation smoothened a little from current xpac?
Yeah I feel like if has but I haven’t played much unholy in DF
The biggest differences for unholy DK : vile contagion is 45 second CD (down from 90); unholy blight is tied to dark transformation (removing a key bind); and you can talent into an ability that every 20 festering wounds pops (very quick with vile contagion shorter cd + defile/dnd) makes festering strike into a scythe that puts 2-3 wounds on everything it hits in 12 yards cone.
So, you can DT on pull, FSx2, VC, dnd/defile. 5gcds then you are fully ramped for AoE and will be able to keep your AoE going easier and longer.
So, still some ramp but much smoother overall
@@karthaege Wow thanks a lot for summing it up. That does sound like a few GCDs shaved off
the first 2 points in ret paladin talent you mentioned were already implemented before war within though ..
Yeah but it is just talking about the class in general not just war within changes
Hey, rogue main here. Stopped playing after season 1 dragonflight is it worth to come back?
As of right now rogue needs some buffs if that is the only reason you are interested in coming back.
Still not sure what to main in TWW, after Druid and Monk for 8 Years i really wanna try something new
What are you feeling
@@TheComebackKids only Thing i can say for Sure is that i want a range dps specc
I am wondering about bommy druid, as since it's rework, the rotation is so odd. Spam solo spell to do AOE, spam AOE to do solo spell, in short
I wouldn’t say spam, but have to use yes
so mage got two good spec out of 3? where is all the other specs that exist? or are we all supposed to main the same class/spec?
Yes, everyone should roll mage, and we should try to do 20 mage mythic clears…
cant wait to play my icy frost Deathbringer with DW Obliteration, Dark Talons, Frostscythe, artic assault and shatterd frost
Is frost will be also good? I don't like unholy !
Hell yeah I’m going to be doing more testing on Frost this weekend
@@TheComebackKids Then you gain a follow !
@@julien3611 i am pretty sure it will.
@@julien3611 Frost and rider hero talent they felt amazing after buffs so if you like frost DK give It a tru i may suprise you!
do fire mages have pyroclasm back in war within ?
No 🥲
I was going to main Unholy DK, but I felt that the rider of apocalypse tree was rather boring.
Then the hunter changes came around and I fell in love with Survival again!
Survival is sooo much fun it’s making me rethink my main maybe too
Tried Unholy for the first time during Panda Remix and it's great, hearing he's even better now, he will be my first choice this expansion.
Hell yeah unholy is sick!
Windwalker monk looking good never played before always stuck with hunter but it’s looking clean
WW is feeling so damn fluid right now
Whats with the clicker UI and Keybinds ?
Huh?
what about ferals 😞 nobody talks about them i need to know
I wouldn’t put feral in with the best specs unfortunately…. Sorry man
Go watch Zuco's video about feral druid! If you like feral you will stick to it after that video.
Feral is decent and bring alot to the table! So check it out with new Bloom burst looks kinda crazy ;)
@asceron2671 Zuco does make some
Good content actually.
@TheComebackKids Yeah, sorry didn't want to invade your viewers to another content creator. But seriously that feral video even made me want to go back to feral and I haven't mained feral since WoD 😅 if resto druids fall off from meta maybe it's feral time to shine, since boomkins just stinks.
Like your vids man keep it up!
@@asceron2671thanks i’ll check it out !
Love how augmentation isn’t mentioned bc it’s always gonna be a must-pick
Augmentation is a guaranteed spot in any group
@@TheComebackKids question - can you level with augmentation or is it a dungeon/raid only spec?
@shakes268 EASILY you can level with it!
Great video ! Been a feral main forever but we are always treated as the ugly duckling for the druid specs. Maybe time to knock some dust off my ww monk or hunter lol
Dude Survival is crazy fun and fluid
Hey bro I’m glad you are covering current content. I never played sod, but always watched your content. I’m stoked and hope you continue to cover current content! Much love and hope you succeed 👊🏻
Thank you so much for the love!
Damn! Fury War didn't make the list... Might have to look at DK 🤔
Well I think fury will be good in dps
Would Ele make the list if the rework came out sooner?
It could I have to do more testing with it in all honesty, I am planning on testing a bunch this weekend so we will see
im really gonna be playing ret probably but ive decided to try something new in ele shaman for a main but if warbands really make everything easier might have 3 classes i really play
That’s fair!
I think brewmaster Monk apparently its going to be good for once..
I would love that
Did arcane not just see nerfs in beta
It did a bit
But trust me.
It’s still stupid op
@@TheComebackKids will withhold judgment till season 1 starts
Arcane is good but the damage they are doing on the meters will be fixed they have a bug right now causing them to do way to much damage.
That’s fair
@@TheComebackKids all and all good video though
Thanks man!
So ur being forced to use wake of ashes ?
Everytime i see videos like this i relaize that blizzard always do a bad job with balancing and reworking classes.
Strange
Thank for this Video.
I had zero hype for the war within. But after looking your Video, I´m counting the days till I can play mage or DK and try this shit out to push M+.
Both Excellent choices dude!
As a rogue main since almost ever I find myself looking at this videos, in hope something good about rogues come out, but I guess they vanished
I think they will rise
wouldnt go by meters, theres still balancing to go. but the feel of each class has to be the number one thing for right now.
100%
As a survival Main, i appreciate the new talenttree really!! ❤
Oh hell yeah
So basically, even with the voidweaver hero talents, i can basically, throw my priest in the dumpster because it won't even be not meta but playable and never get accepted into any m+ at all?
No that’s not true at all
Every class is strong. Pretty sure this is based off of fun
what take is that? its a beta, numbers will change a lot. shadow priest was meta in all DF seasons, stop complaining. All you can test at the moment is how a class feels to play
Great video! Aff lock looks so good!
I think that’s what Lance MIGHT main!
I've always played a MM/BM hunter, but after trying out melee hunter in SOD, I'm a little curious to play SV hunter in retail, and see what it plays like.
It is FLUID right now
I love Surv in general, but it's bonkers now!
They reworked a lot of talents.
as someone who played alot of survival in the current expansion, they removed alot of buttons that felt weird to press and its alot more straight forward now. Highly recommend as its alot closer to SoD melee hunter now...just with a load of movement! :D
It's really so much fun, only annoying thing is Hunter's Mark for me
@@jonoxis it just needs to be off GCD honestly
Yaay one of my classes are on the list. Survival Hunter , demon warlock, frost mage are my dps toons. Most of them are healers or tanks though. I don’t like dying rofl
Hell yeah!
Here’s to hoping Blizzard doesn’t nerf the top spots into the ground just before the raids release.
Ouchhhh always a possibility
And they nerfed/tuned down Arcane a little. Some of it was warranted prolly but AB dmg decrease seemed a tad extra.
When you say arcane mage will be simplified. Does it mean simple for hardcore players but still not that great for casuals who do some keys?
Looking for new DPS main since rogues seem to be very disappointing in TWW so far.
There’s no way rogues will go live this bad….
It is simple enough
I texted most of the classes, and ele sham and mm hunter could hold the highest DPS for the longest time
That’s good actually
So ive been DK main since they came out in WOTLK but i do gotta say i havent played the virulent plague or (whateever its called) muchalways just been disease builds never any wounds im def interested planning on using it if it stays at the top
Give it a try, it’s kinda fun!
@TheComebackKids hmm ok but I don't have beta I could proly get it but I don't see all the hype I'd rather wait for the full retail version of it. And does the plague wound only extend up to 6 or 7 targets after that it loses potential aoe damage or something right?
No DH or Evoker mention? Rip
Evoker in our safest specs to main video
@@TheComebackKids thank you:) I saw!
I'll be playing rogue, wish me luck.
I think rogue will be fine!
sadly ur pet was passive on Unholy DK the hole time
Yikeees
Holy shit this is actually my expansion if they r making unholy dk, arcane mage, ret pal, aff lock and survival hunter the best specs
I can’t promise they will be the best specs from a tuning stand point, but damn will they be fun
What about Spriest?
Spriest is good for sure
Gonna be playing the spriest i did in legion. Im gonna be looking at xalatath like " get back in the bottle"!.
I was a Shadow main in legion so I feel this heavy.
Damn i might main mage this time lol, looks closer to the legion fire mage which I've always loved
It is so much fun!
Still undecided about mage or warlock as my dps class. Blood DK will be my tank.
Mage and warlock are both so good I can’t blame you on being undecided!
I can't decide...! I am a Dk/paladin fan but I also enjoy warlock, god help T_T
Thanks for the vid bro! What about frost DK?
I liked frost from what I have tested but need to still do some more testing on it
That's Kalamazi playing Warlock in your footage....
Crys in fury warrior
I will be doing testing on warrior this week!
Please let us know the difference between TG and SMF! @@TheComebackKids
Sadly man I don’t think blizzard cares about balancing SMF sadly, even though it would be my preferred style of play.
Cant choose with ret or frost dk :s
I would try both!
Shaman's rework looked incomplete and enhancement needs a fully decent rework like Survival and an explanation and apologies from Blizzard due to ignoring this class.
Agree
I don't want to play because of crappy enhancement 😢 been my main since Wotlk. Not received much love over the last few years :(
Enhance Shaman in SoD is the reason TWW Enhance isn't getting any changes. Not sure why an Enhance main would buy TWW since there is no update.
Yikes
Dh nerfed?
Have HEAVY DH testing happening soon on my end.
Arcane Mage has NEVER been the most complicated spec in the game....
Really? Not in the past 2 expansions with its 16 button opener?
@@TheComebackKids 16 buttons? You mean Evocation, Kyrian Spark, ToTM, AB, ABa, surge, NT, and Shifting Power? How are 9 buttons now 16?
crazy how all specs are what blizzard hated about sp, and destroyed and spitted on that spec but fire mages, literally don't ever cast. Crazy bias.
How so?
Hey bro, can you share with your Wow UI? I love it
Which one?
@@TheComebackKids from Ret Paladin
@@TheComebackKids your HUD
Aff is good in retail in aoe scenarios... Garbage in Single. They improved the single target a bit, but I'm still not sold. Don't sleep on Soul Harvester Demo for aoe, its better than Aff in many ways. That being said, Aff might still come on top overall as we get closer to release.
I think if you are running oblivion AFF single can be better, but yea you are right.
well. pending changes ofc.
this video has made me decide to go survival instead of ret.
Yo survival is insane... My brother Lance was gong CRAZY Last night in M+
My affliction warlock will drain some souls once again 😍✨
Hell yeah!
Every one you list except maybe Survival has something over tuned with it. Arcane and Unholy are just doing way to much dmg when compaired to others and will be balanced. Affliction has Wither that is making it more powerful then it is and wither will be tuned. This list is not good to do now as guarantee all but maybe the last one will get nerfed in the next week or so.
I mean its been a ew patches, and even POST NERF to arcane and unholy they are still dominating, we will have to see with time i guess
Man I wanna see enhancement shaman shine for once…
I feel that
YEAR OF THE FUCKIN SPEAR BOYS LETS GOOOOO!!
I don’t know if it will be the most meta spec in the game but hot damn will it be fun
horsemen spec !! got me hyped :)
Hell yeah
Looks like Virtuoso Mesmer in GW2 with those arcane effects :D I'm all for it!
Loved the Mesmer in gw2 when I used to play.
Nice going to level a few mages in remix ready !!
Let’s goooo
Malefic rapture still a thing? Wow.
Yes it is
How’s SPriest looking
Shadow is ALLOT of fun to play right now