One thing to look at with an impact gun this big is the amount of air youre feeding it. They take a lot. Using oil down the inlet pipe definitely helps the vanes last longer and seal up a bit better
Always put a drop of pneumatic oil in there before the first use of the day. I've had tools used for decades that stayed serviceable because they were oiled and well kept.😎
@@Enonymouse_ no need to go extreme on the oil, but i find as long as you see the exhaust damp and oily youre probably oiling it enough. Couple drops every few days works wonders
saludos desde mexico apenas tuve oportunidad de ver este video es un buen tutorial , particularmente uso la cp sobre otras marcas, gracias por compartir estos videos
Yes, moisture is hard on air tools, hence the inline dryers and auto tank drainage systems. I'm surprised that there wasn't lubrication in the hammer chamber, most half inch guns have a oil filled, sealed hammer chambers or an opening between the motor and chamber to receive a portion of the daily air motor lubrication. I have also found that if I skip lubrication for even one day, my gun immediately looses power, particularly on cold days. Nice video, thx.
It was very greasy and oily when I first opened it up. I cleaned it up with my parts washer then I decided to do the vid so I temporarily put it together. That is why it looks so clean. Great to her from you!!
Airline / filter / lubricator issue. I will spray some rust inhibitor It on my guns if I think I won't be using them for awhile. FluildFilm works great. Great video.
Hi great to hear from you... It just floats freely in the cage. And as the nut begins to tighten "IE resistance".The hammer begins to swinging on its pivot point very rapidly creating that hammer noise these air impact guns are so famous for. Every time it hammers it will multiply your torque output of the gun. It is very important this mechanism works properly or the torque of the impact will be non existent.
I watched this video because I'm rebuilding my Ingersoll IR285B, and I can tell you that its exactly the same procedure. Every last part looks identical! My vanes were stuck as well, with lots of rusty gunk, and I constantly oil my guns! Go figure? Thanks for posting ;)BTW are you from Utah? I have a friend in Utah and you have the same accent. Just sayin.......
Hi... When changing from forward to reverse it just changes the flow of the air in the cylinder and changes the direction it hits the veins on the rotor.
Yeah I know that part that it changes the direction of flow, I wanted to know which part inside the rotor or cylinder is responsible for it. Actually I am making a modified version of pneumatic wrench in 3D modelling software and your video has actually helped a lot in that procedure. If its possible for you to point that out it would be great.
Not sure why. On semi trucks with "bud" style wheels all the left side are left handed lugs. All of the right side are right handed lugs. Thanks for watching!!
@@desvariosdeuncamionero8856 Yup. I have a 1957 Chevy pickup. The left rear wheel lugs are backwards threaded. I didn't know this. In trying to remove that tire the first time I could not get one lugnut to loosen. The other three wheels didn't fight me. So I set up my compressor and went from a 4-way to a 3/4 inch impact wrench. That didn't work. Tired of screwing around I got a breaker bar and a 6 foot length of 1in black pipe for extra leverage. Those lugnuts and that wheel we're damned well coming off. A friend had stopped by and asked "what ya doing?" He listened and didn't say much. Just watched as I got the breaker bar with the impact socket on the lugnut. Then the pipe. As I was getting ready to give a heave and no doubt snap that lug my friend did ask if I was aware the lugs we're reversed threaded. On that left rear drum. On old trucks. Learned something that day.
Hi... The only thing I can think is your rotor bearing may not be spinning freely. It's kind of like a windmill scenario. It allows the veins to spin the rotor it will just blow past the veins and out the exhaust.
You can still use it. It'll just be slower. I can remove semi lugs with my Aircat 1992 and Harbor Freight 21 gallon. I just need to be patient between lugs. And the truck's own air ran it enough to get transverse beam nuts off. Those things are 1-7/8" nuts on a 1-1/4" stud and don't get removed very often. If ever.
I've watched this video before but didn't remember your comment that the CP gun was more powerful than the earthquake!? I looked around before buying an earthquake myself, with the sole purpose for the most part being trying to remove hydraulic rod bolts that hold the pistons on. I've got an old Case 580B I'm trying to redo the seals on the outrigger cylinders and all the backhoe cylinders. An 8ft cheater bar wouldn't budge any of them. Waiting on some additional compressor parts & hoses before I took a crack at it with the earthquake, but maybe I should have bought an old CP? The torque rating on the earthquake according to harbor freight is 2500, the highest I saw anywhere, what the hell is the torque on that CP? Maybe you've got a super pro expensive one there, I noted it's got a spline drive, bet those sockets are out of my budget too.
It might be a dumb question but are you certain they are not left handed threads? The biggest factor with these big guns is having enough air 1/2 air hose is a must. 160 psi and at least 15cfm compressor to push it. Beyond that heating up the threaded end "if possible" will be you best friend.
@@arcounited While I am not certain I have tried both ways, also the guy at the local hydraulic repair shop did not mention that, nor have I seen it mentioned on any of the various threads that I have read about left handed rod bolts on the Case 580 series. I will be trying more heat again. I was mostly curious about the torque rating on that CP more than anything, or other guns that would be rated above the earthquake at 2500 ft lbs. I am putting together a 1/2" line system low budget style first, and if it doesn't seem to have the mustard I may get the dewalt 30 gallon from local TSC for 429 and remove the main plug and adapt in a larger one and T off it for a 1/2 or bigger line and screw the original assembly into the top of that so I can have 1/2" and 1/4" on it. The low budget build is a 10 gallon portable tank, remove the stinky little restricted fittings altogether, put new 1/2" fittings in and charge it with my little compressor and hope I can get at least a 3 second or so burst on the 1" earthquake at full power, charge & repeat. The earthquake is rated at 90psi, and it says "max" on it, so I didn't think it should be pushed beyond that at static pressure to achieve 90psi working pressure. Thought that might damage it.
A 10 gallon would not be enough CFM I think that's your main issue. Also it's 90 PSI working pressure which can only be achieved if your static pressure is around 160psi. It's not going to damage the gun I have ran mine at 160 PSI for over 10 years.
Good to know... I have always used air tool oil maybe not every time but at least once every third use. I think the biggest problem with this failure was dew to all the moisture in the air lines. Check out my air compressor video I have done a similar moisture trap on my portable compressor and has helped alot. Thanks for the comment!
Take it back and get a new one? Don't forget $250. This thing was about 4 years out of warranty it's"earth quake" not "Snap on"... LOL Thanks for watching.
oh nice, what is the min size tank i can use, and how to you calculate cfm? can you do a video on your set up and what you use and how to connect to the engine/motor gas or electric?
Dude, wear gloves when your working with freaking lithium grease, and ive never torn down an airgun, but im quite sure you want to use assembly oil, not grease.
Why glove? Daddy always said the only thing you can do with gloves on your hands is piss you pants!! Lithium grease cleans off easy. The only time I ware nitrile gloves is when using the parts washer my hands will stink for days if not. Yeah there is probably some special lube to use I just used what I had available at the time. Thanks for watching!
SKIN PROTECTION: Gloves are not normally needed during normal conditions of use. If health effects are experienced, oil or chemical resistant gloves such as butyl or nitrile are recommended. This is off the MSDS for lithium grease. Hear is the link...panef.com/pdf/MSDS%20WGA-6.pdf
Inline 6 CTD "if health effects are experienced." Not worth the gamble if you ask me. You might go take a piss and develop a rash on your peter, when you could just wear gloves.
Inline 6 CTD 140 :0 psi no exced? the manual i have one and say well 90psi 3/4 internal hose and other things i need help you know the compressor is 22.5 cfm
DIG...90 psi "working pressure". So if you were to put an air press gauge on your gun and you were only at 90 psi on you regulator you will find while using the gun the "working pressure" would drop to around 60 psi so at 140 psi that will bring your "working pressure" to around 100 psi.
I didn't know this cylinder hone tool existed, now I know what to add to my list of tools to get. :)
I like your outlook to repair rather then replace!
Great video.
Very useful info.
Keep up the great work.
Thanks my friend is great video big help thanks again.
Excellent service demonstration................. make more and more like same
Awesome!!!! I want to buy one now!!!!
the video is great man love tools :)
Thanks for watching!!
Great info! Thanks
I don't have an inch impact wrench currently but you never know 😅.
Great video and info 👍
Thanks for the reply.
One thing to look at with an impact gun this big is the amount of air youre feeding it. They take a lot. Using oil down the inlet pipe definitely helps the vanes last longer and seal up a bit better
Always put a drop of pneumatic oil in there before the first use of the day. I've had tools used for decades that stayed serviceable because they were oiled and well kept.😎
@@Enonymouse_ no need to go extreme on the oil, but i find as long as you see the exhaust damp and oily youre probably oiling it enough. Couple drops every few days works wonders
It's all about maintenance. Drain your compressor daily and lube your air tools daily.
saludos desde mexico apenas tuve oportunidad de ver este video es un buen tutorial , particularmente uso la cp sobre otras marcas, gracias por compartir estos videos
Yes, moisture is hard on air tools, hence the inline dryers and auto tank drainage systems. I'm surprised that there wasn't lubrication in the hammer chamber, most half inch guns have a oil filled, sealed hammer chambers or an opening between the motor and chamber to receive a portion of the daily air motor lubrication. I have also found that if I skip lubrication for even one day, my gun immediately looses power, particularly on cold days. Nice video, thx.
It was very greasy and oily when I first opened it up. I cleaned it up with my parts washer then I decided to do the vid so I temporarily put it together. That is why it looks so clean. Great to her from you!!
Can tell you had it apart because the handle was underneath it!
FYI man the tune up kit for an Ingersoll rand 285b will work for this gun. Gaskets, veins, and all. As will the tune up kit for a cp 7778-6
Cool I was not aware of that. Those china man ain't dumb... Don't reinvent the wheel !
Do you know if any of the IR kits will work for the 1/2" drive Earthquake professional wrenches?
Good video man,I like 'it
Great to hear from you. Thanks for leaving a comment.
very good video
Thanks.. And thanks for watching!!!
Ty
Airline / filter / lubricator issue. I will spray some rust inhibitor It on my guns if I think I won't be using them for awhile. FluildFilm works great. Great video.
Fluid film? I thought that was for undercoating of body panels.
Inline 6 CTD Spay rust inhibitor, not an under coating or paint but more like an oil. Most auto parts stores sell it. Grey can with red letters.
workwillfreeyou ok great thanks for commenting?
maybe put a bunch of oil in the inlet before you store it? glad you were able to get it back working.
Thank you for detailed video. Can you show the hammering mechanism works?
Hi great to hear from you... It just floats freely in the cage. And as the nut begins to tighten "IE resistance".The hammer begins to swinging on its pivot point very rapidly creating that hammer noise these air impact guns are so famous for. Every time it hammers it will multiply your torque output of the gun. It is very important this mechanism works properly or the torque of the impact will be non existent.
That's a real anemic hammer for the size of that tool. This must sell more on looks than torque.
1 inch impact open and fitting Chicago repair
What lotion do you use to protect those hands?
I watched this video because I'm rebuilding my Ingersoll IR285B, and I can tell you that its exactly the same procedure. Every last part looks identical! My vanes were stuck as well, with lots of rusty gunk, and I constantly oil my guns! Go figure? Thanks for posting ;)BTW are you from Utah? I have a friend in Utah and you have the same accent. Just sayin.......
LoL Yeah Utah... Think the earthquake is just an IR knock off. Good to hear from you!
I had to double check to make sure you weren't using *_red_* threadlock on those bolts there.
How much torque is it...??? thanks
Please how can I get the air impact wrench 1" parts
I have used some Pneumatic wrench, I was curious about how turning the dial changed the direction of Rotation i.e. Tightening and loosening.
Hi... When changing from forward to reverse it just changes the flow of the air in the cylinder and changes the direction it hits the veins on the rotor.
Yeah I know that part that it changes the direction of flow, I wanted to know which part inside the rotor or cylinder is responsible for it. Actually I am making a modified version of pneumatic wrench in 3D modelling software and your video has actually helped a lot in that procedure. If its possible for you to point that out it would be great.
Looks like my garage, oops sorry, container.
have to admit harbor freight makes some damn beefy impacts
Cp the best impact
Chicago Pneumatic or " Harbor freight " Central Pneumatic? Both CP
chicago pneumatic obviously harbor freight would wish
You doing the old style wheels but anyway what size airline are you running
1/2 inch hose
So have you had the opportunity to check out the Milwaukee and Ingersoll rand 1 inch electric impact what are your thoughts on those
Hello, what size is that socket for studs and where can i buy them. Thanx
Hi the size is 3/4 square drive. the stud are called inner nuts. They can be found on ebay look under "Bud wheel socket"
1/2 inch hose there?
Motty Ruttner Yes 1/2 inch. Not enough cfm with a 3/8 hose.
How can i get it
I was surprised to see the wheel lugs were left-hand thread. What is the reason for that?
Not sure why. On semi trucks with "bud" style wheels all the left side are left handed lugs. All of the right side are right handed lugs. Thanks for watching!!
Pro1er it is to prevent them from loosening themselves due to the direction of the rotation.
james jackson are you trolling?
ross burton no he is not , it's true most of that you can find it in old trucks or car
@@desvariosdeuncamionero8856 Yup. I have a 1957 Chevy pickup. The left rear wheel lugs are backwards threaded. I didn't know this. In trying to remove that tire the first time I could not get one lugnut to loosen. The other three wheels didn't fight me.
So I set up my compressor and went from a 4-way to a 3/4 inch impact wrench.
That didn't work.
Tired of screwing around I got a breaker bar and a 6 foot length of 1in black pipe for extra leverage.
Those lugnuts and that wheel we're damned well coming off.
A friend had stopped by and asked "what ya doing?"
He listened and didn't say much. Just watched as I got the breaker bar with the impact socket on the lugnut.
Then the pipe.
As I was getting ready to give a heave and no doubt snap that lug my friend did ask if I was aware the lugs we're reversed threaded. On that left rear drum. On old trucks.
Learned something that day.
I took mine apart. The vains are floating, but still, almost all air comes out of the exhaust. Any idea why? I can't figure it out
Hi... The only thing I can think is your rotor bearing may not be spinning freely. It's kind of like a windmill scenario. It allows the veins to spin the rotor it will just blow past the veins and out the exhaust.
I want this model nut my compressor only does 11 cfm, this beast wants like 17 cfm... damn it
Yes all these 1 inch impacts use alot of air. Get a bigger compressor!!
You can still use it. It'll just be slower. I can remove semi lugs with my Aircat 1992 and Harbor Freight 21 gallon. I just need to be patient between lugs.
And the truck's own air ran it enough to get transverse beam nuts off. Those things are 1-7/8" nuts on a 1-1/4" stud and don't get removed very often. If ever.
I've watched this video before but didn't remember your comment that the CP gun was more powerful than the earthquake!? I looked around before buying an earthquake myself, with the sole purpose for the most part being trying to remove hydraulic rod bolts that hold the pistons on. I've got an old Case 580B I'm trying to redo the seals on the outrigger cylinders and all the backhoe cylinders. An 8ft cheater bar wouldn't budge any of them. Waiting on some additional compressor parts & hoses before I took a crack at it with the earthquake, but maybe I should have bought an old CP? The torque rating on the earthquake according to harbor freight is 2500, the highest I saw anywhere, what the hell is the torque on that CP? Maybe you've got a super pro expensive one there, I noted it's got a spline drive, bet those sockets are out of my budget too.
It might be a dumb question but are you certain they are not left handed threads? The biggest factor with these big guns is having enough air 1/2 air hose is a must. 160 psi and at least 15cfm compressor to push it. Beyond that heating up the threaded end "if possible" will be you best friend.
@@arcounited While I am not certain I have tried both ways, also the guy at the local hydraulic repair shop did not mention that, nor have I seen it mentioned on any of the various threads that I have read about left handed rod bolts on the Case 580 series. I will be trying more heat again. I was mostly curious about the torque rating on that CP more than anything, or other guns that would be rated above the earthquake at 2500 ft lbs. I am putting together a 1/2" line system low budget style first, and if it doesn't seem to have the mustard I may get the dewalt 30 gallon from local TSC for 429 and remove the main plug and adapt in a larger one and T off it for a 1/2 or bigger line and screw the original assembly into the top of that so I can have 1/2" and 1/4" on it. The low budget build is a 10 gallon portable tank, remove the stinky little restricted fittings altogether, put new 1/2" fittings in and charge it with my little compressor and hope I can get at least a 3 second or so burst on the 1" earthquake at full power, charge & repeat. The earthquake is rated at 90psi, and it says "max" on it, so I didn't think it should be pushed beyond that at static pressure to achieve 90psi working pressure. Thought that might damage it.
A 10 gallon would not be enough CFM I think that's your main issue. Also it's 90 PSI working pressure which can only be achieved if your static pressure is around 160psi. It's not going to damage the gun I have ran mine at 160 PSI for over 10 years.
you need 200 psi hopefully 30 gallons or better 80 gallon plus would be best.
90 psi wont tickle this bigger impacts
and cp is much better than the earthquake, I own both I run my cp with 1/2 Id hose at 200 psi, it makes the lug nuts throw sparks when they sit.
where can we find this tool used for grinding the cylinder?
It is a engine cylinder hone. They can be found at almost any local auto parts store. Thanks for watching
OWWOS he told you O'Reilly's autoparts in the video.
okay
any auto store honing tool some call it
I found out the hard way, if you any other oil other than air tool oil the vains will stick.
Good to know... I have always used air tool oil maybe not every time but at least once every third use. I think the biggest problem with this failure was dew to all the moisture in the air lines. Check out my air compressor video I have done a similar moisture trap on my portable compressor and has helped alot. Thanks for the comment!
nah man, automatic transmission fluid any light oil works good.
@@arcounited I agree, moisture is the worst offender, lack of lubrication a not too distant second.
sounds way anemic, turn up the air pressure to at least 180psi I run mine at 200 psi.
kitne rupay ki hai
Looks like you don’t have enough air going through it. Just my two cents
you shouldn't need to "toss it away" just take it back and get a new one.
Take it back and get a new one? Don't forget $250. This thing was about 4 years out of warranty it's"earth quake" not "Snap on"... LOL Thanks for watching.
vaines are phenolic resin
Supposedly the higher end impacts are plastic. Thanks for watching!!
chicago pneumatic is a way better gun, I own both as well.
what size and compressor do you have
The one in the vid is a 30gal. Small tank but with the 12.5 hp motor puts out a whopping 18cfm.
oh nice, what is the min size tank i can use, and how to you calculate cfm? can you do a video on your set up and what you use and how to connect to the engine/motor gas or electric?
You can tell a weak person by his gloves
Dude, wear gloves when your working with freaking lithium grease, and ive never torn down an airgun, but im quite sure you want to use assembly oil, not grease.
Why glove? Daddy always said the only thing you can do with gloves on your hands is piss you pants!! Lithium grease cleans off easy. The only time I ware nitrile gloves is when using the parts washer my hands will stink for days if not. Yeah there is probably some special lube to use I just used what I had available at the time. Thanks for watching!
Inline 6 CTD lithium is incredibly toxic, has nothing to do with it cleaning up easily. Just some advice.
SKIN PROTECTION: Gloves are not normally needed during normal conditions of use. If health effects
are experienced, oil or chemical resistant gloves such as butyl or nitrile are recommended.
This is off the MSDS for lithium grease.
Hear is the link...panef.com/pdf/MSDS%20WGA-6.pdf
Inline 6 CTD "if health effects are experienced." Not worth the gamble if you ask me. You might go take a piss and develop a rash on your peter, when you could just wear gloves.
ross burton well I don't know bout you but when I'm taking something apart I generally like to be able to use my hands with all their skill.
What is the internal size for that hose ? And what is the aire pressure???
The air hose is 1/2'' ID. The air pressure is 140 psi
Inline 6 CTD 140 :0 psi no exced? the manual i have one and say well 90psi 3/4 internal hose and other things i need help you know the compressor is 22.5 cfm
DIG...90 psi "working pressure". So if you were to put an air press gauge on your gun and you were only at 90 psi on you regulator you will find while using the gun the "working pressure" would drop to around 60 psi so at 140 psi that will bring your "working pressure" to around 100 psi.
oh, thanks for the tip