@@MrRodrigues520 I mean console does the same thing just without the little window that pops up before the game fully opens. You still sit on a black screen for a bit on xbox series s at least.
CoD Games didn't need to be connected. It was all good before. You can just launch the games individually from your PlayStation menu or Steam or whatever.
Warzone should have always just been a separate application. It always being integrated into a different cod game every year just makes things more bloated and annoying to go through.
Those are assets that are shared between games and the menus and stuff. Because of that the game install itself takes less. So why does that even matter? Do you want to have cod hq installed without games? You will have a game installed with cod hq (i presume) so does it matter if the cod hq install is 5gb and the game is 110gb OR cod hq is 40gb and the game is 75gb. The game takes up 115gb either way
Remember when they put out new perks for Warzone and people exploited the game to get it in MW19? There were like a few days where people were getting armor in MW19.
Biggest thing affecting file size was the games going to "online only" normally that wouldn't matter to most people but in some cases you can't play cod anymore (I played cod through both my deployments no way you could do that anymore)
There's no excuse for having to click through like 6 different menus just to hop into zombies or multiplayer. Or having like 12 different nested menus for customization. Or having to scroll through and endless amount of stickers/emblems/calling cards/etc you don't even own, to find the one you actually like. No reason it can't be a huge list or gallery or whatever. Hate to praise Fortnite, but they handle cosmetics just fine. It is still a terrible UI. Your defense is understandable, but I think it relies on the fact that the previous iteration was so much worse. Just because it's better, doesn't mean it's good. Fantastic video, regardless of my disagreement
This is a very well thought out defense for the COD HQ. I do think it's actually a huge benefit to have all the COD games in one location so that Warzone can be it's own thing as well as the games connected to Warzone
I clicked on the video saying _"Oh really ? Feel free to try !"_ And ended up being presented with surprisingly good arguments. Especially now that they got rid of that Hulu-ass UI (I would have gladly taken one made by KinoFabino over it) it's almost not a bother... "Almost" because I'm on PC and the load times and particularly updates are infuriatingly and needlessly long. The mere fact it boots you up on the last game *even if you haven't bought it when the WZ integration has yet to be* is bad design. It was even worse back during the shift to MW23 ! Having a common base for the games is fine, especially since they're all on (more or less) the same engine now, but the ability to choose what app to lauch would let us actually enjoy those shorter lauch times. It is not so much about the actual time but how it is percieved. And to be fair, they said they'd let us do just that in a future update.
The file sizes of CODs are so big because of 4K textures for cosmetics. You'd think that only one texture is needed per item, but in reality, there are 4 or more textures used for different types of surface data: normal, smoothness, metallicness, ambient occlusion, height, etc. As far as I'm aware, they combine a few of these maps into one to save space. Still for M4 (MWII) alone, there is about 1GB data (including models, animations, textures, etc.) and that is massive. I really think we need a good compression algorithm otherwise the file sizes are going to bloat uncontrollably, specifically due to cosmetics and their textures.
The issue though is that the games sharing assets whatnot doesn't require you to first launch the Warzone/Current Cod client, load that, then close that and THEN load the other executable. You could have them all packaged COD HQ file wise and just immediately launch the executable for the game you want to play first, and not have to load and subsequently de-load warzone. The reason I think this is the case though is consoles. For consoles they have to make each game an addon/DLC for the one Call of Duty app, and I don't think the current setup on Xbox or Playstation OS allows you to boot straight into a DLC, since DLCs traditionally require the app they are tied to. This means in order for COD HQ to work on consoles you HAVE to launch the Call of Duty HQ app because DLC on their own are not selectable the same way differing executables are on PC. Each executable is treated as an addon for an existing game, not individual games themselves. The console system doesn't take into account that a DLC could share file structure and assets of it's host game, but be it's own separate executable. In order for this to change both Playstation and Xbox would need to modify their system so that you can select and boot into DLCs straight from the menu. Microsoft now owns Call of Duty, so they could do this but they cannot control this on Playstation, and they must have a system that works on all platforms. That's why COD HQ is like that on PC even though each client has it's own exe.
My only concern is that eventually there is the potential for Activision and Microsoft to delist the older COD games as more games gets added on each year. Another thing to consider is that maybe five to ten years down the road, we’d have scroll through dozens of COD games until we find the game that we want to play. It would just become a hassle and an inconvenience. Overall, it’s a good idea on paper, but poorly executed.
They could allow you to launch the games separately (on pc at least) they all have their own executable, but they dont. Update requires restart shouldn't even be a thing, unless the game updated while it was open (which they dont even do)
All your numbers are off because of a long time playstation issue with games "sharing" files.. For example if you have bo3 installed alone it's gonna say 111.5gb BUT if you install bo4 as well it's going to say bo3 is 137.5gb because of the bo4 dlc being counted twice for both games. Bo4 is 118.9gb when installed alone.
I would prefer if all cod games combine into one in instead of having app that have separate games or modes. Which why I uninstall the multiplayer because they’re mid and just want to play zombies or campaign.
With a Samsung 990 pro in my laptop it takes me about a minute or a little longer, which isnt that bad of a wait but i feel it should be faster. Even on my desktop which has a Seagate harddrive(ssd as boot device but it's storage is also used by other games) bo6 takes like 2 minutes which isn't that bad for using storage that's not even recommended and not much longer than my 990. Just my experience though.
Should just be a setting to choose which loads up first and an option to disable the store ads but it will never happen because activision hates you and loves your wallet
I love the idea of CoD HQ especially with yearly releases. However I feel its kinda useless for how the games are connected. Like its cool to have all the games be in one place but they are not. You still launch each game separately but now there is an annoying aspect with CoD HQ. I think if we had each cod have its own multiplayer and then warzone which is separate not connected to one cod with weapons and skins from past cods. Just make a Warzone game that is warzone and all the content of the past and future cods and change to a new version when a new engine is made. Then have each multiplayer be separate and when you launch CoD HQ you are launching all the games. I know Activision could find a way to make this work they have an insane amount of money. Its such a good idea but its so poorly done that it makes it pointless. Activision cannot do this super ambitious thing and then have it be bad. I also want to add why are your old cods so big. My Vanguard is 60 gigs on PC. My guess is that its combining them all because at least on steam the size is a lie due to just how CoD is connected so it may be the same on PS5.
I wish they keep unifying the games. There should only be one cod multiplayer. One with all the maps and guns etc from older games and they should add more content when they release a new campaign. Or maybe two games, one in style of modern warfare and one in black ops style, if they must be differentiated. One can hope...
Honestly the CoD HQ change kinda made me enjoy the concept a little more. I get what they wanna do is like similar to Fortnite but I don’t get why we need this when each cod stops getting support after a year. But it is x1000 better and cleaner than before, it’s a lot smoother and loads you in bo6 pretty quick. I just hope it doesn’t get slower over time
I’m what way is having everything randomly crammed together on one screen better than the way things were? It’s ugly as sin and clunky beyond belief nothing about it is clean.
I hate cod hq all games feel the same it used modern warfare and black ops used to be different and the old ui were much better why can’t we have that why does cod gotta be affiliated with some mid battle royale
Is cod hq really good? No, is it Really bad? Also No. But Id prefer launching cod games as separate apps. 🤷♂️
On PC is really annoying because you have to close one game to open another, God forbids there's an update. On console it's pretty seamless
also driver update, recompile shaders
@@MrRodrigues520 I mean console does the same thing just without the little window that pops up before the game fully opens. You still sit on a black screen for a bit on xbox series s at least.
Nope it’s real bad on pc. Forces me to download stuff I don’t want
@@Pikaahhh On PC it's way more than a bit, and no shader compilation on consoles
The “update requires restart” was in advance warfare
no, that was infinite warfare
@@LoLzWorldModern Warfare!
Idk i just wanted to join
CoD Games didn't need to be connected. It was all good before. You can just launch the games individually from your PlayStation menu or Steam or whatever.
Warzone should have always just been a separate application. It always being integrated into a different cod game every year just makes things more bloated and annoying to go through.
The hq is literally 40GBs without any games for no reason. Defend that
My CODHQ is only half that, I guess it's a lot more on console then?
@Pikaahhh im on pc, the hq is 44gbs without any game installed
base of the game i assume?
@@aleixi no, mw2 maps and operators for mw3
Those are assets that are shared between games and the menus and stuff. Because of that the game install itself takes less.
So why does that even matter? Do you want to have cod hq installed without games?
You will have a game installed with cod hq (i presume) so does it matter if the cod hq install is 5gb and the game is 110gb OR cod hq is 40gb and the game is 75gb. The game takes up 115gb either way
Remember when they put out new perks for Warzone and people exploited the game to get it in MW19? There were like a few days where people were getting armor in MW19.
Also, COD HQ is actually BO6 MP and ZM and now Warzone, that's why it's fast. The campaign is a different app and the previous games are too.
yea i remember, tempered glitch for mp i think it was when vantuard released or cold balls.
Warzone still breaks everything in COD HQ. MWII campaign is especially graphically broken now.
As someone who enjoys collecting achievements on steam
I didn't buy MW3, yet I can't 100% BO6 achievements without doing MW3 achievements too.
no more COD platinums on PSN bc it’s all under “call of duty” now
on pc cold war is only 168 gb, mw2019 is 119, and vanguard is 62. these numbers might be a little off but thats why file explorer tells me
Biggest thing affecting file size was the games going to "online only" normally that wouldn't matter to most people but in some cases you can't play cod anymore (I played cod through both my deployments no way you could do that anymore)
There's no excuse for having to click through like 6 different menus just to hop into zombies or multiplayer. Or having like 12 different nested menus for customization. Or having to scroll through and endless amount of stickers/emblems/calling cards/etc you don't even own, to find the one you actually like. No reason it can't be a huge list or gallery or whatever. Hate to praise Fortnite, but they handle cosmetics just fine. It is still a terrible UI.
Your defense is understandable, but I think it relies on the fact that the previous iteration was so much worse. Just because it's better, doesn't mean it's good.
Fantastic video, regardless of my disagreement
to be fair, if you use the last played option, you use 2 clicks less
This is a very well thought out defense for the COD HQ. I do think it's actually a huge benefit to have all the COD games in one location so that Warzone can be it's own thing as well as the games connected to Warzone
I clicked on the video saying _"Oh really ? Feel free to try !"_ And ended up being presented with surprisingly good arguments.
Especially now that they got rid of that Hulu-ass UI (I would have gladly taken one made by KinoFabino over it) it's almost not a bother...
"Almost" because I'm on PC and the load times and particularly updates are infuriatingly and needlessly long.
The mere fact it boots you up on the last game *even if you haven't bought it when the WZ integration has yet to be* is bad design. It was even worse back during the shift to MW23 !
Having a common base for the games is fine, especially since they're all on (more or less) the same engine now, but the ability to choose what app to lauch would let us actually enjoy those shorter lauch times. It is not so much about the actual time but how it is percieved. And to be fair, they said they'd let us do just that in a future update.
Yeah but it screwed up my steam hours >:(
all the games in cod hq utilize texture streaming so i think that’s why they’re smaller
The file sizes of CODs are so big because of 4K textures for cosmetics. You'd think that only one texture is needed per item, but in reality, there are 4 or more textures used for different types of surface data: normal, smoothness, metallicness, ambient occlusion, height, etc. As far as I'm aware, they combine a few of these maps into one to save space. Still for M4 (MWII) alone, there is about 1GB data (including models, animations, textures, etc.) and that is massive. I really think we need a good compression algorithm otherwise the file sizes are going to bloat uncontrollably, specifically due to cosmetics and their textures.
I need to watch you more often, I remember watching your map tour videos before you went on that big break. Seriously 10/10 content, keep it up.
Update requires restart is so dumb, should just be a part of the boot up process
The issue though is that the games sharing assets whatnot doesn't require you to first launch the Warzone/Current Cod client, load that, then close that and THEN load the other executable. You could have them all packaged COD HQ file wise and just immediately launch the executable for the game you want to play first, and not have to load and subsequently de-load warzone. The reason I think this is the case though is consoles. For consoles they have to make each game an addon/DLC for the one Call of Duty app, and I don't think the current setup on Xbox or Playstation OS allows you to boot straight into a DLC, since DLCs traditionally require the app they are tied to. This means in order for COD HQ to work on consoles you HAVE to launch the Call of Duty HQ app because DLC on their own are not selectable the same way differing executables are on PC. Each executable is treated as an addon for an existing game, not individual games themselves. The console system doesn't take into account that a DLC could share file structure and assets of it's host game, but be it's own separate executable. In order for this to change both Playstation and Xbox would need to modify their system so that you can select and boot into DLCs straight from the menu. Microsoft now owns Call of Duty, so they could do this but they cannot control this on Playstation, and they must have a system that works on all platforms. That's why COD HQ is like that on PC even though each client has it's own exe.
Great video! CODhq really isn’t that bad this year
In defense of File size doom eternal costed 37 gb at.launch have about twice more play length
You have something weird going on with your 2 ssds. There's no way they're that big. All of those don't go over 150 gigs for me
Update requires restart started in Advanced Warfare
My only concern is that eventually there is the potential for Activision and Microsoft to delist the older COD games as more games gets added on each year. Another thing to consider is that maybe five to ten years down the road, we’d have scroll through dozens of COD games until we find the game that we want to play. It would just become a hassle and an inconvenience. Overall, it’s a good idea on paper, but poorly executed.
They could allow you to launch the games separately (on pc at least) they all have their own executable, but they dont.
Update requires restart shouldn't even be a thing, unless the game updated while it was open (which they dont even do)
I wanna play mw 2022😢 but the game doesnt want to luanch
someone had to do it, its step one of basic research papers, find opposing arguments
All your numbers are off because of a long time playstation issue with games "sharing" files.. For example if you have bo3 installed alone it's gonna say 111.5gb BUT if you install bo4 as well it's going to say bo3 is 137.5gb because of the bo4 dlc being counted twice for both games. Bo4 is 118.9gb when installed alone.
I would prefer if all cod games combine into one in instead of having app that have separate games or modes. Which why I uninstall the multiplayer because they’re mid and just want to play zombies or campaign.
The launcher reminds me of og Garry's mod game mounting
There is no more defending this game anymore it has proven to be a lie thank god i didn't get it
This is good proof of what some people feel about this game
With a Samsung 990 pro in my laptop it takes me about a minute or a little longer, which isnt that bad of a wait but i feel it should be faster. Even on my desktop which has a Seagate harddrive(ssd as boot device but it's storage is also used by other games) bo6 takes like 2 minutes which isn't that bad for using storage that's not even recommended and not much longer than my 990. Just my experience though.
Should just be a setting to choose which loads up first and an option to disable the store ads but it will never happen because activision hates you and loves your wallet
Should checkout the nuketown Easter egg now
New Cod hq prretty good....
I love the idea of CoD HQ especially with yearly releases. However I feel its kinda useless for how the games are connected. Like its cool to have all the games be in one place but they are not. You still launch each game separately but now there is an annoying aspect with CoD HQ. I think if we had each cod have its own multiplayer and then warzone which is separate not connected to one cod with weapons and skins from past cods. Just make a Warzone game that is warzone and all the content of the past and future cods and change to a new version when a new engine is made. Then have each multiplayer be separate and when you launch CoD HQ you are launching all the games. I know Activision could find a way to make this work they have an insane amount of money. Its such a good idea but its so poorly done that it makes it pointless. Activision cannot do this super ambitious thing and then have it be bad.
I also want to add why are your old cods so big. My Vanguard is 60 gigs on PC. My guess is that its combining them all because at least on steam the size is a lie due to just how CoD is connected so it may be the same on PS5.
cold war on pc is 130gb so i think your theory about ps4 games is probably correct
I wish they keep unifying the games. There should only be one cod multiplayer. One with all the maps and guns etc from older games and they should add more content when they release a new campaign.
Or maybe two games, one in style of modern warfare and one in black ops style, if they must be differentiated.
One can hope...
That sounds absolutely awful.
Honestly the CoD HQ change kinda made me enjoy the concept a little more. I get what they wanna do is like similar to Fortnite but I don’t get why we need this when each cod stops getting support after a year. But it is x1000 better and cleaner than before, it’s a lot smoother and loads you in bo6 pretty quick. I just hope it doesn’t get slower over time
I’m what way is having everything randomly crammed together on one screen better than the way things were? It’s ugly as sin and clunky beyond belief nothing about it is clean.
Cod hq is ok, not great but it could be worse
Let me use my exe files or ar least launch arguments.
I hate cod hq all games feel the same it used modern warfare and black ops used to be different and the old ui were much better why can’t we have that why does cod gotta be affiliated with some mid battle royale
Cod Hq is ugly
No I hate COD HQ and you can't defend it
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