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If I was the most lucky person in your big audience, first of all, I would be amazed to be the winner, and I'd need a few hours to scream around the neighborhood before I could calm down. Then, I'd definitely spend my money on the new Oneup dropper post and get rid of my pesky, unreliable reverb, get some new MTB specific shoes so i stick to the pedals like glue, a new 11 speed XT derailleur because mine is still running strong but is beat up and could use a refresh, a new chain and cassette would be awesome too! And if i have some money left over I'd probably get some warmer gloves so my fingies don't get cold riding in the winter! Maybe I'd get some michelin enduro tires and new pads for my shimano brakes instead of something since my old tires are way past the replacement point :)
To whom it may concern, What I would buy with the 500 dollars: 1: Not using a torque wrench is not fun, and my mom doesn't want to get one because of the cost. Having a torque wrench would be super nice, although I have become quite good at determining torque values by feel. 2: I would also buy shin pads because my pedals have ripped huge chunks of skin out when my feet slip off of them. 3: I would get a new saddle because my current saddle is bent to the point when I sometimes slide off 4: I want to go Shimano for my bike, but my parents would never let me spend that money on a bike drivetrain. The sram sx that I have is definitely showing its age, although it has worked well for 2000 miles in the past 6 months. I would buy an SLX drivetrain, and then I would FINALLY be able to have my shifter and brakes set up correctly because my bike has Shimano brakes, so I would be able to mount them to an SLX shifter. 5: I would buy some proper clothes because I sweat like a pig in Texas weather lol 6: I would buy proper tires because falling down in corners with lightly treaded tires is not fun... 7: Having a shorter stem would be helpful as an 80mm stem isn't the most confidence inspiring 8: A heart rate monitor would be greatly appreciated so that I can train properly for upcoming races But honestly, you should consider give the 500 dollars to somebody who probably deserves it more :)
I recently upgraded from a bread and butter trailbike to a super long, aggressive and progressive Enduro 29er and I don't regret it for a second. With geometry evolving, these bikes are still super versatile and capable of all day epics, while simultaneously being super capable. The "category" is arbitrary, geometry and suspension is what's relevant. That and skill - obviously. 😉
I have a 150mm 29er but i wanna experience a big bike so im building a 170mm 27.5..i dont have problems climbing up or hiking up hills.. the fun starts on the descent
@@theskyisblue8979 several weeks ago. I’ve already gone and superseded most of my PR’s on my local trails already, the front fork alone feels like it’s just deleting anything in front of me. The rear still rattles something but honestly the rear wheel just follows what the front one does anyways so I’m able to fly down trails I couldn’t previously.
Great content again Paul 😊 For some reason lately I have been considering on changing my stumpjumper to an Ibis ripmo af because most of the people are going into the enduro discipline kind of a bike. But then because of this vid of yours it somehow make me reconsider things. By the way the cinematography of this video is superb! 😀👍 Thanks again Paul and ride safe always! 😀
Check out the new Stumpjumper Evo, it is like a hybrid of a trail bike and an enduro bike. Ripmo is similar. The Ripmo climbs extremely well and is rock solid stable on descents. The new Stumpy Evo is still a good climber, but is very poppy and playful too, so it has the geometry and almost as much travel as an enduro bike, but rides like a trail bike.
@@davidmoshel This is what I have. I ride with friends that have 170 in front, and I feel my bike has everything. They may have a bit more leeway, but this bike handles it very well. I have not tried the Stumpy EVO, which would be my choice if the terrain I ride was gnarlier.
I just got into mountain biking over quarantine and fell in love. If it’s riding street, trails or jumps I’m smiling ear to ear the whole time. MTB has been an amazing outlet for me and it’s really helped me through life the last 8 months. If I were to win I would get a full face helmet, gloves, jerseys, shorts, five tens and knee pads. My birthdays in a few days and it would just be so amazing to get this opportunity. I love your content and hope you keep making more!
Beautifully done with this video~ love the genuine honesty here & professional opinions backing up the simple facts! Random thought.. I could almost see this same argument for a Golf club.. one club to rule them all.. I’m a Golf Professional that teaches regularly when I’m not mtb YouTubing.. but a little bird told me you were starting a Golf channel..? If this is true I wanted to share my dream with ya.. perhaps one day being able to do the worlds longest golf hole.. call it “Enduro Golf” ⛳️⛰🚲🏌🏻♂️💨 one club.. one mtb.. one Looooooong Golf Hole 🕳 Okay random daydreams aside, love these finer detailed product equipment evaluations! Big thumbs up 👍🏼
I was on the fence between an Ibis Ripley and Rimpo early last year. I was stoked on the Ripley but got swayed into buying the Ripmo because I didn't want to be underbiked. Turned out that I really did not like that bike. Was not nearly as playful as the Ripley and climbed much slower. I ended up selling it a month after I got it and bought a Ripley. Best choice ever. The bike can handle anything my skill level is up to tackling. The Ripmo is definitely faster on the chunky fast stuff, but I am 100% willing to sacrifice a bit of speed for an overall more enjoyable riding experience.
I have myself a 100 mm cannondale and tbh there is very little I can’t do on the average trail. If you pick the best line then you will usually be a-okay. Skill certainly plays a part. Just move up if you keep bottoming out.
Hi paul! I'm from Scotland so I would spend the money on winter clothing like fox defend trousers as I still wear shorts. I would also get cushcore because I ride a hardtail and I think I would benefit from the rim protection. Cheers!
I’d spend the $500 on a new helmet as I cracked mine in a otb situation I’d also some new shoes for my dad. Then with any leftover money I’d get my sister some stuff all to go towards attempting to get back out on the trails after lockdown in Melbourne.
Doesn't sound like much of a mountain... We do ~400m just riding up the spruit (green belt), in the middle of the suburbs. If we head out to the mountains... That's some REAL elevation!
@@th_js I really want to buy a 165 140 mountain bike what bike do you have? And do you have a lot of elevation near your house? I have hills but not mountains (the Ozarks). Would this be too much bike?
I feel you bro. Used to have a Trek DS 8.5 with 63mm of travel. I put some 2.2 enduro tyres and it was a death machine 😂 Got myself a second hand GT Sensor and loving life 🤟🏻 Good luck bro
i just love my trail bike. the importance for me was to help me with my lower back pain. 140mm in the rear 150 in the front does everything what i need it to do.
I’m glad someone addressed the difference in Trail bikes 7-8 years ago and now. My 2018 Camber Comp Carbon 29 was the last of the “old” trail bikes. Leaned more toward XC, and wasn’t particularly good at anything except relaxing rides through the woods. When pushed, it was no good in any category. The Epic Evo that replaced it actually shreads at speed, even with similar geo.
I would put the $500 towards some mountain bike shoes, and some tools and kits to work on and fix my own bike. That would help a lot because I am always taking my bike to the shop and then I cannot ride for a week. Thanks for this amazing opportunity and it would really help to have tools to fix my bike when broken! Thanks
anyone with a good back, neck, so not me. at least for offroad use, but if that's not an issue a hardtail is nice, but more fatiguing, but got more gentle riding a hardtail is nice, many get a hardtail as a shopping, commuting bike, that they can take for a mtb ride too. that's the only use I could get from one. the rear shock makes a huge difference for me. even easy xc trails are too much for my back.
I just purchased a new trail bike. My old Jamis Dakar 3.0 was 16 years old. I have found that with the new geometry I can do anything I want. I just used it on a double black diamond tech trail at a bike park with no issues. Thanks
I really like where you are taking this channel. I hope you can keep this type of content coming. We have more than enough "Guy with a van rides another trail" videos. Well done.
Here is my list(I have just recently gotten into mountain biking and love it I am using a very cheap used $200 bike) 1. Pedals, right now stock pedals are what I am using(pretty self explainitory)I would get composite ones most likely Chester's. $50 2. Tires. The traction right now is very bad. I slide around all the time it is also my brakes a little bit but a lot is my tires. $150 ish 3. A new helmet, right now the helmet I am using is a helmet from my grandfather. It is good but a tad bit loose. It also doesn't have a visor which I would like for extra protection. $70-$150 4. Googles, it is winter now. It gets muddy and when you ride for long periods of time your eyes sting and get really dry I dont have googles yet but it would be great to get some. $30-$50 5. Grips, right now I am using stock grips. They slide around and leave this weird stuff on my hands. $20-$30 6. Some winter appearal. I dont really have anything to keep me warm while I ride right now and it would be really good to get some. $50 ish 7. Stem, right now I have a 70 mm stem. I would personally like a shorter one. Most likely 35 mm to 45 mm. $50 ish 8. I would contribute the last little bit to protection. Knee pads and stuff like that. I'm not sure how much it would cost. That is all I would buy, I love mountain biking and whoever you chose deserves it. Good luck to everyone.
With $500 on competitive cyclists I would buy a crank brothers multitool, new grips, a new seat and new dropper post lever. Great video by the way really enjoyed it!
I’m 12 and have been mowing lawns for about a year now and altogether I’ve made about $600 and wanted to spend that on a key capable exxy bike but something capable is about two grand and I need I also need money to spend on gear like a helmet and gloves but also I would want some tools
I really enjoy your new approach to MTB videos. Trail bikes now are more capable than most riders so are the best all around choice for the reasons you mentioned. I'm down to an All Mountain 150mm all coil e-bike, AM 150mm trail bike with beefy tires and a 130mm trail bike with faster tires...all FS 29ers. I like the AM 150 bikes for rougher, steeper tech and bad weather and the 130mm bike for longer rides and tamer trails that I want to be more challenging.
I have a Pivot 429 Trail with 130mm of travel and have ridden it tons of places in the last 4 years. It's been the best bike I've ever ridden. It's great on my local trails with 600-1200 ft of steep climbing which I ride 90% of of the time. It can handle rough mountain terrain and rocky stuff in Moab and St. George. The trail bike really is the best bike for most all mountain biking. Sure, sometimes I'd like to have a bit more travel on really technical terrain, but I have confidence in doing the tech stuff with less travel, I just do it slower. This review is spot on, Thanks Paul!
I'd get a new handle bar, and tools to help fix up my sister's first mountain bike! It's a used 2009 Stumpjumper I searched days and days for so that she could have a comfy and fun first bike. She's always supported me through my journey through sobriety and stuck with me through the hardest of times. Mountain biking has given me a healthy way to spend my days and helped me find myself. Now I want to do my best to give something back to her for all she's done for me!
I used to ride trails like that with no suspension back in the early 90’s on 26” wheels with a steel frame. It’s all about technique and your own confidence. The rest is just aides to supplement those skills so you can go faster on the same trail with less fatigue.
I'd get new 220mm centerlock rotors, 2 adapters for the bigger rotors, new pads for my 2 piston MT4 and 4 piston MT5, digital tire pressure gauge, quality shock pump, DMR Defy2 stem and a tire insert (Vittoria for rear and I'll move my Huck Norris to the front).
I've got a 2016 Specialized Camber Comp Carbon and its been a great bike. After 4 years of ownership I upgrade the Fork to a Fox 36 and run it at 140mm travel. With the bike at 140mm front 120mm rear its fantastic. It climbs well and is much more capable going down than one would think. I used to think I needed a bigger bike, but whenever I hit the bike park it continues to surprise me and keep up with bigger bikes. The only times where it feels on its limits is when it gets REALLY steep, but it still makes it through every "black" tech/eduro trail I've thrown at it.
I went with a 130mm 29er trail hardtail as my first mtb so I could learn the sport figuring it was more than enough bike for me starting out. My first season, I raced xc, I ran tech and flow trails all over my state and even took it downhilling at a proper bike park. I was able to ride with all sorts of people; xc racers, sponsored bmx riders and lots of recreational riders of various skill levels. I was able to ride in CO and experience really rocky trails as well. My $1600 dollar hardtail did it all and I have learned so much about riding and about what bikes we truly need. My trail hardtail was and still is more than enough bike for me. On flow trails and climbs, it excels as was expected. Even when it gets rougher, I have learned how to stay on my pedals, choose lines and use my legs. And it is a 29er so I can still bang through and over stuff if I need to. I'm by no means the fastest guy I know, but I am not the slowest...and it is 100% my fault, not the bikes. As I keep improving, I am finding that my hardtail can handle more than I think. And because it is a hardtail, I am able to push myself all the time since I am not overbiked. That said, I have definitely been in situations where I was severely underbiked. The bike park taught me the true pain of braking bumps and really high speed rock gardens. The hardtail survived but my body definitely paid a price. My riding in CO was a similar experience. Climbing was great, but the prolonged rockier descents takes a lot. Lastly, I did a 6 hour ride that included huge climbs and proper long downhill. The hardtail did it and I could be on pace with some bigger rigs, but it takes a lot and by the time it was over, I was in pretty rough shape. My key takeaways then are as follows: My hardtail will always have a place in my stable. People are getting "down country" bikes which makes no sense to me when really good trail hardtails exist. It climbs really well and is super versatile. It can kill my local trails, the pump track, gravel rides, the odd xc race and keep me sharp. My "big" bike will be a trail bike with at least 140mm of travel front and back. The added suspension will make long efforts in rough terrain more bearable. It would also allow me to show up at any trail just about anywhere in the country and be confident I have enough bike to see me through to the end. It will also get me through the odd bike park day just fine. Lastly, as fast as a hardtail can be, a full sus is just faster so when speed is king, I can always reach for it. Between a good trail bike and a trail hardtail, I have everything covered no matter where I choose to ride.
I went from a Giant trance with 160mm of travel to a Pivot 429 trail. OMG, I love the Pivot sooo so much. Upped the fun factor by an order of magnitude. Was riding sporadically, now riding almost every day. Can't believe how long it took to get here....
Like this series, been struggling myself to find the " do it all " bike for my style of riding. After watching, I finally decided 2 sell my Scott Gambler and bought a Specilized Enduro Elite. I ride bike parks 2-3 days a week and after I switched to the Enduro I now added 2-3 days of riding in the hills nearby. Works like a dream.
Couldn't agree more. I sold my Radon Swoop 170 enduro earlier this year and bought a Whyte s150 trail bike and don't feel like I'm being held back one bit. I've ridden some old DH tracks and raced enduro on the trail bike and it's been perfectly capable. In an ideal world we would all have a trail and an enduro bike but unless you are absolutely sending it and taking big jumps a trail bike it all the bike you'll ever need.
If I got the money for Competitive Cyclist, I would buy a new chainring, some new pads, a hydro-pack, and a new helmet for my GF! I'm loving the videos and I'm really enjoying getting into mountain biking. Thank you for answering the technical questions some of us who are new might be afraid to ask. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
What a debat ;-) In my area, Europe Netherlands, even a trail bike is considered 'over spec-ed'. Everyone rides XC type bikes wearing Lycra. My 130 mm. Canyon Neuron with Nobby Nic tyres is the definition of a tank...
Paul, you’re preaching to the choir! I have both types of bikes and have been waffling between the two for a few years😁 Currently trying to maximize the trail bike’s ability since I think it’s more appropriate for 80% of what I do. And, as far as the promo...170 mm dropper post and tire inserts. Awesome video! Thanks👊🏻
I went from a medium '14 Tallboy V2 to a large '21 Ripmo AF - night and day. Overbiked at the start but as my skills and confidence develop, it's working out to be just the right bike
Great point about good components and proper setup add up to more confidence. I remember how much more confident I felt with wider internal width wheels.
I got a trail bike as my first MTB this past summer, Santa Cruz Hightower CC. It seems like it has taken lots of cues from enduro world like you talk about here. Overall, I've been super happy with it and having a blast! I also love the chaps mention about reaching "the limit" of the bike at lower speeds/intensities but still feeling it be intense; it resonated with my mid 30's aging body :D
Tbh my favourite example of "a trail bike can do it all" is when skills with Phil sent Crabapple hits on his 130/150mm evil calling. Pretty sure as it can handle that it can handle pretty much anything
Paul- your edit at 8:01, cutting from standing at the bottom of the rock to riding over the rock while talking then stopping in front of the camera is just brilliant- really, really well done!!! Your video skills, as with your riding skills, are superb! PS I'd buy a GoPro 9...
I just ordered a Fezzari Delano Peak specifically because it's a trail bike. Most of what I ride is blue/black single track trails and half of what I ride is climbing. In my budget, I could've gotten an enduro bike, but that would come with lower spec drivetrain, brakes and tires. Trust me, you want a good drivetrain and tires more than you want an extra 10-20mm of suspension if you're doing a lot of climbing.
Got my first full suspension bike a short while ago (Scott Genius 950) and I absolutely love it! I can 100% recommend modern trail bikes for beginners, its fun, capable and I feel very save with 29in wheels and 150mm travel front and rear
I ride my 120mm hardtail everywhere, I think it's kinda boring to have a crazy 170mm enduro bike on most trails around the world. Unless you live in BC on the west coast or in the alps or something you'll be just fine with a shorter travel bike. But on the other hand people should be able to buy what they want to as long as you enjoy your bike it's all good.
Great content in the video Paul. Needs to be broadcasted far and wide. I think too many people get caught up in what's hot, not what's best for their particular situation. The point about terrain dictating the bike was spot on. I have bikes from 100 mm travel to 140mm travel and head tube angles from 66 to 69 degrees. Where I do 95% of my riding, bikes with the steeper head tube angle are actually better than the slacker one. A lot of the local trails have extremely tight turns that weave in and out of the trees and involve lots of peddling.and not a whole lot in terms of downhill and steep stuff. So XC leaning geo beats out the slacker enduro geo on those. Can I manage it on the slacker, more travel bike? Yes but it isn't nearly as enjoyable and is a lot more work. Now when I go to the steep and technical stuff, the slacker and longer travel bike really shines and it's the one I take. If I could only keep one of my bikes, I'd keep my 130mm, 67.5 degree HTA bike. It will do well enough on both ends of the trail spectrum for where I do all my riding and is perfect for everything in between. If I lived where you do, I'd keep the 140mm 66 degree bike.
Agreed that most new trail bikes with 115-140mm travel are very capable now of handling bigger trails and more technical sections that it really cones down to the type of rider and area. Although the otherside is N+1, bikes are fun 🤪
One of the things I noticed when I first started riding and had the "one bike" was how boring it made "average" trails and I'm glad you brought that up as I think that's the biggest factor for getting the appropriate bike for YOU. CHEERS!!!
You're completely correct and I wish I'd heard someone say this a year and a half ago. I started on a 2010 Kona Dawg Deluxe (140 front and back 26in wheels), then i got a 2013 Specialized Stumpjumper Elite (135 rear 150 front 26in wheels) and currently I'm riding a 2016 Scott Genius LT 710 which has 170mm of travel front and back and 27.5 wheels. It was the ransom before the ransom was a thing. I bought it as just a frame, headset, bottom bracket and shock from a riding buddy. I knew my budget for my build so i scoured literally every component distributor online i could find and calculated hundreds if not thousands (no exaggeration) of build options before deciding wich one was the most bang for my buck performance wise and pulled the trigger. Ive been riding it barely over a year and unfortunately its too much bike for the majority of my trails here in the bay area of California. I find the climbs taxing so much of my energy and the frequent braking required due to hikers and equestrians on multiuse trails makes me frequently having to brake and pedal back up to speed and its just the most tiring bike I've ever ridden. I have my eye on either the Forbidden Druid, Esker Rowl, Alchemy Arktos 279 or Yeti SB130 LR. Less travel and bigger wheels is what my local trails call for. I thought i needed all that bike and smaller wheels and i was totally wrong
Just got into the sport. Upgrades for my gt aggressor Pro. Like handlebars,stem ,10 gear cassette, and some nice mountain biking shoes. Also ams protective stickers
I have a RM Instinct “trail bike” and love it. I’ve raced XC for many years on XC bikes both hard tail and FS with 110 travel, my Instinct has 140 travel and not only do I race XC on it I race Enduro on it. I have carbon wheels with XC tires, bars and cranks that I change very easily depending if racing XC or Enduro. Granted I still race with my XC 110 travel bikes depending on distance and course type, but my Instinct is ideal for my marathon races that have many types of rough terrain. I highly recommend a trail type bike for any person wanting a do almost anything bike, and I do ride my trail bike a bike parks!
got a 2019er giant trance 2 29er with 130/115 fox sus and a quite slack/long geo... does a good job on xc, singletrack and flowy parts of bikepark 👌🏼 haven't pushed its boundaries yet... next on my shopping list: helmet with removeable chinbar and some proper lights
I'd start with a set of 4-piston brakes as I'm a big guy who doesn't heal like I used to and want to be able to stop when I'm chasing my teenage son down the trails. A tubeless set-up kit would be the second purchase. If there is anything left, I'd look for some spring/fall riding pants to keep the old knees dry and warm. Thanks for the opportunity.
I would definitely be heading straight for the helmet and clothing section as my 2 year old helmet is definitely in need of replacement and I could definitely do with expanding my mob wardrobe.
Awesome video. I recently bought a trail/enduro with 160mm in the front and 150 in the back. Chose this travel for the 29 inch weels. I think the difference between trail and enduro is becoming really small. I love it. With my 500$ i would buy - fox suspension maintenance tools - magura brake pads and service kit - spare tires - that fox helmet seems awesome. 🤟
I'd like that tire gauge, new grips, 780 bar and some new brakes. I'm half way through upgrading my brakes, just need the rear brakes. I've bought new fronts and rotors but haven't purchased the rear brake yet.
I would love the THULE T2 Classic - 2 Bike Hitch Rack, this be awesome for when I go to the different trails over the weekend. That is what I will get.
I would pick up parts for an eventual bike build. I would definitely get a Marzocchi Bomber Z2 as my front fork, ideally paired with a Specialized Stumpjumper Evo alloy frame set.
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these are the best videos ever dude.
Thank you!
Your competitive cyclist link for insta goes to yours Paul 🤔
They got good deals.
I would use $500 to buy a desert bike as mine is anything but...
I'd buy a truing stand so I can learn the dark arts of wheel building and more tools for my bike cave lol
It really is considered a DARK ART. LOL not all know about it.
If I was the most lucky person in your big audience, first of all, I would be amazed to be the winner, and I'd need a few hours to scream around the neighborhood before I could calm down. Then, I'd definitely spend my money on the new Oneup dropper post and get rid of my pesky, unreliable reverb, get some new MTB specific shoes so i stick to the pedals like glue, a new 11 speed XT derailleur because mine is still running strong but is beat up and could use a refresh, a new chain and cassette would be awesome too! And if i have some money left over I'd probably get some warmer gloves so my fingies don't get cold riding in the winter! Maybe I'd get some michelin enduro tires and new pads for my shimano brakes instead of something since my old tires are way past the replacement point :)
Amazing cinematography and editing Paul!
To whom it may concern,
What I would buy with the 500 dollars:
1: Not using a torque wrench is not fun, and my mom doesn't want to get one because of the cost. Having a torque wrench would be super nice, although I have become quite good at determining torque values by feel.
2: I would also buy shin pads because my pedals have ripped huge chunks of skin out when my feet slip off of them.
3: I would get a new saddle because my current saddle is bent to the point when I sometimes slide off
4: I want to go Shimano for my bike, but my parents would never let me spend that money on a bike drivetrain. The sram sx that I have is definitely showing its age, although it has worked well for 2000 miles in the past 6 months. I would buy an SLX drivetrain, and then I would FINALLY be able to have my shifter and brakes set up correctly because my bike has Shimano brakes, so I would be able to mount them to an SLX shifter.
5: I would buy some proper clothes because I sweat like a pig in Texas weather lol
6: I would buy proper tires because falling down in corners with lightly treaded tires is not fun...
7: Having a shorter stem would be helpful as an 80mm stem isn't the most confidence inspiring
8: A heart rate monitor would be greatly appreciated so that I can train properly for upcoming races
But honestly, you should consider give the 500 dollars to somebody who probably deserves it more :)
If you didn’t get this $500 you deserved it.
@@Lucas-hk6gn Well it has been a while... but I have since got all the items on the list (and have enjoyed all of them)
I recently upgraded from a bread and butter trailbike to a super long, aggressive and progressive Enduro 29er and I don't regret it for a second. With geometry evolving, these bikes are still super versatile and capable of all day epics, while simultaneously being super capable. The "category" is arbitrary, geometry and suspension is what's relevant. That and skill - obviously. 😉
What bike did you buy?
I have a 150mm 29er but i wanna experience a big bike so im building a 170mm 27.5..i dont have problems climbing up or hiking up hills.. the fun starts on the descent
" The "category" is arbitrary, geometry and suspension is what's relevant. " Couldn't agree more.
@@ericthebikeman8559 2021 Commencal Meta AM 29.
@@HeretiCflow thats a trailbike 😆
One up platform pedals fox defend pants and a park tool bike stand.
Only 45 seconds into the vid and I had to stop a say wow. It looks like you’re riding in a painting. 💯👏
I ride a marin rift zone 2 (not carbon ) it has 130 mill of travel and on the English trails it rides mint especially on jumps
Paul: yeah my trail bike has 150 mm travel
Me *crying in hardtail*
Just put a 130 fork on my budget hardtail, honestly, the lack of rear suspension is not really what's holding the bike back.
When?
@@theskyisblue8979 several weeks ago. I’ve already gone and superseded most of my PR’s on my local trails already, the front fork alone feels like it’s just deleting anything in front of me. The rear still rattles something but honestly the rear wheel just follows what the front one does anyways so I’m able to fly down trails I couldn’t previously.
@@slicershanks1919 No when did I ask 😂
There are plenty of hard tail trail bikes. They aren’t all FS
I'd put the money towards a winter clothing riding set! And use it to pay my Bikepark fees so I could go more often and progress faster.
I would put my $500 toward a trek top fuel ex 5! I love the darn thing! That's why I watched this video because it is a trail bike!
Great video by the way!
Great content again Paul 😊 For some reason lately I have been considering on changing my stumpjumper to an Ibis ripmo af because most of the people are going into the enduro discipline kind of a bike. But then because of this vid of yours it somehow make me reconsider things. By the way the cinematography of this video is superb! 😀👍 Thanks again Paul and ride safe always! 😀
Nice one!
the new stupjumper seems good with 140 130
I would try both you may be surprised on how well the Ripmo pedals up the hill with dw links. So its really a trail bike with the enduro attitude
Check out the new Stumpjumper Evo, it is like a hybrid of a trail bike and an enduro bike. Ripmo is similar. The Ripmo climbs extremely well and is rock solid stable on descents. The new Stumpy Evo is still a good climber, but is very poppy and playful too, so it has the geometry and almost as much travel as an enduro bike, but rides like a trail bike.
@@davidmoshel This is what I have. I ride with friends that have 170 in front, and I feel my bike has everything. They may have a bit more leeway, but this bike handles it very well. I have not tried the Stumpy EVO, which would be my choice if the terrain I ride was gnarlier.
I just got into mountain biking over quarantine and fell in love. If it’s riding street, trails or jumps I’m smiling ear to ear the whole time. MTB has been an amazing outlet for me and it’s really helped me through life the last 8 months. If I were to win I would get a full face helmet, gloves, jerseys, shorts, five tens and knee pads. My birthdays in a few days and it would just be so amazing to get this opportunity. I love your content and hope you keep making more!
Beautifully done with this video~ love the genuine honesty here & professional opinions backing up the simple facts!
Random thought.. I could almost see this same argument for a Golf club.. one club to rule them all.. I’m a Golf Professional that teaches regularly when I’m not mtb YouTubing.. but a little bird told me you were starting a Golf channel..? If this is true I wanted to share my dream with ya.. perhaps one day being able to do the worlds longest golf hole.. call it “Enduro Golf” ⛳️⛰🚲🏌🏻♂️💨 one club.. one mtb.. one Looooooong Golf Hole 🕳
Okay random daydreams aside, love these finer detailed product equipment evaluations! Big thumbs up 👍🏼
The camera work and color grading on these videos are absolutely stunning
I was on the fence between an Ibis Ripley and Rimpo early last year. I was stoked on the Ripley but got swayed into buying the Ripmo because I didn't want to be underbiked. Turned out that I really did not like that bike. Was not nearly as playful as the Ripley and climbed much slower. I ended up selling it a month after I got it and bought a Ripley. Best choice ever. The bike can handle anything my skill level is up to tackling. The Ripmo is definitely faster on the chunky fast stuff, but I am 100% willing to sacrifice a bit of speed for an overall more enjoyable riding experience.
I have myself a 100 mm cannondale and tbh there is very little I can’t do on the average trail. If you pick the best line then you will usually be a-okay. Skill certainly plays a part. Just move up if you keep bottoming out.
Hi paul! I'm from Scotland so I would spend the money on winter clothing like fox defend trousers as I still wear shorts. I would also get cushcore because I ride a hardtail and I think I would benefit from the rim protection. Cheers!
I’d spend the $500 on a new helmet as I cracked mine in a otb situation I’d also some new shoes for my dad. Then with any leftover money I’d get my sister some stuff all to go towards attempting to get back out on the trails after lockdown in Melbourne.
If the highest mountain near you is 200m tall. Buy a trail bike.
-me
Mine is closer to 200 cm. Honestly!
I disagree
Doesn't sound like much of a mountain... We do ~400m just riding up the spruit (green belt), in the middle of the suburbs. If we head out to the mountains... That's some REAL elevation!
@@JimEckhardt thats his point...
@@th_js I really want to buy a 165 140 mountain bike what bike do you have? And do you have a lot of elevation near your house? I have hills but not mountains (the Ozarks). Would this be too much bike?
I would buy a race face 2017 dropper post, feedback sports truing stand and a busch and muller front light
Paul: talking about 140mm of travel
Me: crys in 75mm on my trek 820
Stop crying and demo a new bike. They are amazing. Look around the web you can get a great deal on newer bikes my friend.
I have
I just got back from a bike shop and am currently saving up for a new bike
Ben Jilek Right on! I was in the same boat
I feel you bro. Used to have a Trek DS 8.5 with 63mm of travel. I put some 2.2 enduro tyres and it was a death machine 😂 Got myself a second hand GT Sensor and loving life 🤟🏻 Good luck bro
i reccomend you look at cube
they have great price and its german quality
i just love my trail bike. the importance for me was to help me with my lower back pain. 140mm in the rear 150 in the front does everything what i need it to do.
I'm recently getting in Gravel Riding, so I would probably get a GRX setup.
I’m glad someone addressed the difference in Trail bikes 7-8 years ago and now. My 2018 Camber Comp Carbon 29 was the last of the “old” trail bikes. Leaned more toward XC, and wasn’t particularly good at anything except relaxing rides through the woods. When pushed, it was no good in any category.
The Epic Evo that replaced it actually shreads at speed, even with similar geo.
Great vid Paul. I love watching you. Whenever I see your video I click on it like it’s an add for a free bike.
Haha 😂
I would put the $500 towards some mountain bike shoes, and some tools and kits to work on and fix my own bike. That would help a lot because I am always taking my bike to the shop and then I cannot ride for a week. Thanks for this amazing opportunity and it would really help to have tools to fix my bike when broken! Thanks
Buy one their defo worth it
They’re *
140mm front 130mm rear, super short chainstays and slack head angle = fucking perfect
@@frankiemazzei8882 💯%
That drop at 7:40, can do on XC hardtail (~13kg) with 100mm fork, but with a dropper engaged. :)
I hope you do a "who should get a hardtail"
Somebody who has knees of steel
anyone with a good back, neck, so not me. at least for offroad use, but if that's not an issue a hardtail is nice, but more fatiguing, but got more gentle riding a hardtail is nice,
many get a hardtail as a shopping, commuting bike, that they can take for a mtb ride too. that's the only use I could get from one. the rear shock makes a huge difference for me. even easy xc trails are too much for my back.
Poor people
@@gw4yn Laughs in s-works epic hardtail pro
Laughs with a specialized fuse expert
new set of tires, hydration hip pack maybe some winter gear would all be nice.
I would spend the money on A giro tyrant helmet as well as a pair of 510s
I just purchased a new trail bike. My old Jamis Dakar 3.0 was 16 years old. I have found that with the new geometry I can do anything I want. I just used it on a double black diamond tech trail at a bike park with no issues. Thanks
Paul: everyone is overbiked
Me: riding downhill on a 115 travel bike
Sam Villa my current bike has 60mm of travel. That’s nearly full rigid at that point. ;-)
How about no wheels beat that
@Mike H are you riding a gravel bike that has room for XC tires and routing for a dropper?
I would definitely spend the money on a floor pump and smart pressure gauge!
Hi paul, If I won the 500 dollars I would spend it on troy lee designs sprint pants and maybe a fox proframe
One up dropper post and lever, one up bar and stem and Ergon saddle.
My wife is just getting into riding so I’d put the money towards waterproof clothes and pads for her! Thanks for the great content
Budget some money for professional coaching/camps if she is interested and you can swing it, especially all female camps... game changers!
SImP
Took my Transition Sentinel enduro and bike park riding in the Alps this summer and it smashed it! Never once felt under biked!
Owning a Ransom, I guess you only ride your Genius to the butcher's.
i'd grab a full riding kit including helmet, shorts, and a jersey, and maybe some clipless pedals for the first time.
I really like where you are taking this channel. I hope you can keep this type of content coming. We have more than enough "Guy with a van rides another trail" videos. Well done.
My 130mm 650B+ is my daily driver i do everything with. Love it
I would spend the money on some waterproof riding gear so I can make the most of the winter.
Paul I think you nailed it with this video. I think anyone who is looking for a new bike should be watching this.
Here is my list(I have just recently gotten into mountain biking and love it I am using a very cheap used $200 bike)
1. Pedals, right now stock pedals are what I am using(pretty self explainitory)I would get composite ones most likely Chester's. $50
2. Tires. The traction right now is very bad. I slide around all the time it is also my brakes a little bit but a lot is my tires. $150 ish
3. A new helmet, right now the helmet I am using is a helmet from my grandfather. It is good but a tad bit loose. It also doesn't have a visor which I would like for extra protection. $70-$150
4. Googles, it is winter now. It gets muddy and when you ride for long periods of time your eyes sting and get really dry I dont have googles yet but it would be great to get some. $30-$50
5. Grips, right now I am using stock grips. They slide around and leave this weird stuff on my hands. $20-$30
6. Some winter appearal. I dont really have anything to keep me warm while I ride right now and it would be really good to get some. $50 ish
7. Stem, right now I have a 70 mm stem. I would personally like a shorter one. Most likely 35 mm to 45 mm. $50 ish
8. I would contribute the last little bit to protection. Knee pads and stuff like that. I'm not sure how much it would cost.
That is all I would buy, I love mountain biking and whoever you chose deserves it. Good luck to everyone.
With $500 on competitive cyclists I would buy a crank brothers multitool, new grips, a new seat and new dropper post lever. Great video by the way really enjoyed it!
I’m 12 and have been mowing lawns for about a year now and altogether I’ve made about $600 and wanted to spend that on a key capable exxy bike but something capable is about two grand and I need I also need money to spend on gear like a helmet and gloves but also I would want some tools
I really enjoy your new approach to MTB videos. Trail bikes now are more capable than most riders so are the best all around choice for the reasons you mentioned. I'm down to an All Mountain 150mm all coil e-bike, AM 150mm trail bike with beefy tires and a 130mm trail bike with faster tires...all FS 29ers. I like the AM 150 bikes for rougher, steeper tech and bad weather and the 130mm bike for longer rides and tamer trails that I want to be more challenging.
I have a Pivot 429 Trail with 130mm of travel and have ridden it tons of places in the last 4 years. It's been the best bike I've ever ridden. It's great on my local trails with 600-1200 ft of steep climbing which I ride 90% of of the time. It can handle rough mountain terrain and rocky stuff in Moab and St. George. The trail bike really is the best bike for most all mountain biking. Sure, sometimes I'd like to have a bit more travel on really technical terrain, but I have confidence in doing the tech stuff with less travel, I just do it slower. This review is spot on, Thanks Paul!
I'd get a new handle bar, and tools to help fix up my sister's first mountain bike! It's a used 2009 Stumpjumper I searched days and days for so that she could have a comfy and fun first bike. She's always supported me through my journey through sobriety and stuck with me through the hardest of times. Mountain biking has given me a healthy way to spend my days and helped me find myself. Now I want to do my best to give something back to her for all she's done for me!
I used to ride trails like that with no suspension back in the early 90’s on 26” wheels with a steel frame. It’s all about technique and your own confidence. The rest is just aides to supplement those skills so you can go faster on the same trail with less fatigue.
I would put it towards an axs dropper post. It would help take the pressure off a bad thumb.
Digital tire gauge and good 3/8 torque wrench. Nice video. I am a 48 year old rookie and I am loving MTB! Thanks for the video
I'd get new 220mm centerlock rotors, 2 adapters for the bigger rotors, new pads for my 2 piston MT4 and 4 piston MT5, digital tire pressure gauge, quality shock pump, DMR Defy2 stem and a tire insert (Vittoria for rear and I'll move my Huck Norris to the front).
I've got a 2016 Specialized Camber Comp Carbon and its been a great bike.
After 4 years of ownership I upgrade the Fork to a Fox 36 and run it at 140mm travel. With the bike at 140mm front 120mm rear its fantastic. It climbs well and is much more capable going down than one would think. I used to think I needed a bigger bike, but whenever I hit the bike park it continues to surprise me and keep up with bigger bikes.
The only times where it feels on its limits is when it gets REALLY steep, but it still makes it through every "black" tech/eduro trail I've thrown at it.
I went with a 130mm 29er trail hardtail as my first mtb so I could learn the sport figuring it was more than enough bike for me starting out. My first season, I raced xc, I ran tech and flow trails all over my state and even took it downhilling at a proper bike park. I was able to ride with all sorts of people; xc racers, sponsored bmx riders and lots of recreational riders of various skill levels. I was able to ride in CO and experience really rocky trails as well. My $1600 dollar hardtail did it all and I have learned so much about riding and about what bikes we truly need.
My trail hardtail was and still is more than enough bike for me. On flow trails and climbs, it excels as was expected. Even when it gets rougher, I have learned how to stay on my pedals, choose lines and use my legs. And it is a 29er so I can still bang through and over stuff if I need to. I'm by no means the fastest guy I know, but I am not the slowest...and it is 100% my fault, not the bikes. As I keep improving, I am finding that my hardtail can handle more than I think. And because it is a hardtail, I am able to push myself all the time since I am not overbiked.
That said, I have definitely been in situations where I was severely underbiked. The bike park taught me the true pain of braking bumps and really high speed rock gardens. The hardtail survived but my body definitely paid a price. My riding in CO was a similar experience. Climbing was great, but the prolonged rockier descents takes a lot. Lastly, I did a 6 hour ride that included huge climbs and proper long downhill. The hardtail did it and I could be on pace with some bigger rigs, but it takes a lot and by the time it was over, I was in pretty rough shape.
My key takeaways then are as follows:
My hardtail will always have a place in my stable. People are getting "down country" bikes which makes no sense to me when really good trail hardtails exist. It climbs really well and is super versatile. It can kill my local trails, the pump track, gravel rides, the odd xc race and keep me sharp.
My "big" bike will be a trail bike with at least 140mm of travel front and back. The added suspension will make long efforts in rough terrain more bearable. It would also allow me to show up at any trail just about anywhere in the country and be confident I have enough bike to see me through to the end. It will also get me through the odd bike park day just fine. Lastly, as fast as a hardtail can be, a full sus is just faster so when speed is king, I can always reach for it.
Between a good trail bike and a trail hardtail, I have everything covered no matter where I choose to ride.
I'd spend it on winter kit. Southern Ontario winters are wet and sloppy. It'd be nice to actually stay dry and enjoy some winter riding fun
I went from a Giant trance with 160mm of travel to a Pivot 429 trail. OMG, I love the Pivot sooo so much. Upped the fun factor by an order of magnitude. Was riding sporadically, now riding almost every day. Can't believe how long it took to get here....
Like this series, been struggling myself to find the " do it all " bike for my style of riding. After watching, I finally decided 2 sell my Scott Gambler and bought a Specilized Enduro Elite. I ride bike parks 2-3 days a week and after I switched to the Enduro I now added 2-3 days of riding in the hills nearby. Works like a dream.
If I won I’d put the cash towards upgrading my bike’s brakes and rear derailleur! Awesome GAW, thanks for the opportunity 🍻
Couldn't agree more. I sold my Radon Swoop 170 enduro earlier this year and bought a Whyte s150 trail bike and don't feel like I'm being held back one bit.
I've ridden some old DH tracks and raced enduro on the trail bike and it's been perfectly capable.
In an ideal world we would all have a trail and an enduro bike but unless you are absolutely sending it and taking big jumps a trail bike it all the bike you'll ever need.
If I got the money for Competitive Cyclist, I would buy a new chainring, some new pads, a hydro-pack, and a new helmet for my GF! I'm loving the videos and I'm really enjoying getting into mountain biking. Thank you for answering the technical questions some of us who are new might be afraid to ask. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
I would grab a new dropper post (most likely a one up) a new rear rim because my current on is smashed and a front tire (wild enduro or assecai )
What a debat ;-) In my area, Europe Netherlands, even a trail bike is considered 'over spec-ed'. Everyone rides XC type bikes wearing Lycra. My 130 mm. Canyon Neuron with Nobby Nic tyres is the definition of a tank...
Paul, you’re preaching to the choir! I have both types of bikes and have been waffling between the two for a few years😁 Currently trying to maximize the trail bike’s ability since I think it’s more appropriate for 80% of what I do. And, as far as the promo...170 mm dropper post and tire inserts. Awesome video! Thanks👊🏻
I went from a medium '14 Tallboy V2 to a large '21 Ripmo AF - night and day. Overbiked at the start but as my skills and confidence develop, it's working out to be just the right bike
Great point about good components and proper setup add up to more confidence. I remember how much more confident I felt with wider internal width wheels.
I got a trail bike as my first MTB this past summer, Santa Cruz Hightower CC. It seems like it has taken lots of cues from enduro world like you talk about here. Overall, I've been super happy with it and having a blast! I also love the chaps mention about reaching "the limit" of the bike at lower speeds/intensities but still feeling it be intense; it resonated with my mid 30's aging body :D
Tbh my favourite example of "a trail bike can do it all" is when skills with Phil sent Crabapple hits on his 130/150mm evil calling. Pretty sure as it can handle that it can handle pretty much anything
Paul- your edit at 8:01, cutting from standing at the bottom of the rock to riding over the rock while talking then stopping in front of the camera is just brilliant- really, really well done!!! Your video skills, as with your riding skills, are superb!
PS I'd buy a GoPro 9...
I just ordered a Fezzari Delano Peak specifically because it's a trail bike. Most of what I ride is blue/black single track trails and half of what I ride is climbing. In my budget, I could've gotten an enduro bike, but that would come with lower spec drivetrain, brakes and tires. Trust me, you want a good drivetrain and tires more than you want an extra 10-20mm of suspension if you're doing a lot of climbing.
Ergon GE1 grips, SR Pro saddle, Giro Chamber II shoes, Maxis DHR II, DHF. Nice work on the little climb up to Rupert too, trips me up lots.
Speaking of fatigue, a set of One Up carbon bars make a world of a difference. Especially on a hard tail.
I ride a kona stinky. 150mm rear 160mm front. Great for climbing, great for downhill. Plus gets a lot of questions from nostalgia and intrigue
Got my first full suspension bike a short while ago (Scott Genius 950) and I absolutely love it! I can 100% recommend modern trail bikes for beginners, its fun, capable and I feel very save with 29in wheels and 150mm travel front and rear
I ride my 120mm hardtail everywhere, I think it's kinda boring to have a crazy 170mm enduro bike on most trails around the world. Unless you live in BC on the west coast or in the alps or something you'll be just fine with a shorter travel bike. But on the other hand people should be able to buy what they want to as long as you enjoy your bike it's all good.
Great content in the video Paul. Needs to be broadcasted far and wide. I think too many people get caught up in what's hot, not what's best for their particular situation. The point about terrain dictating the bike was spot on. I have bikes from 100 mm travel to 140mm travel and head tube angles from 66 to 69 degrees. Where I do 95% of my riding, bikes with the steeper head tube angle are actually better than the slacker one. A lot of the local trails have extremely tight turns that weave in and out of the trees and involve lots of peddling.and not a whole lot in terms of downhill and steep stuff. So XC leaning geo beats out the slacker enduro geo on those. Can I manage it on the slacker, more travel bike? Yes but it isn't nearly as enjoyable and is a lot more work. Now when I go to the steep and technical stuff, the slacker and longer travel bike really shines and it's the one I take. If I could only keep one of my bikes, I'd keep my 130mm, 67.5 degree HTA bike. It will do well enough on both ends of the trail spectrum for where I do all my riding and is perfect for everything in between. If I lived where you do, I'd keep the 140mm 66 degree bike.
I think I would definitely get some Shimano SLX brakes, Shimano PD-ME700 pedals, and a pair of Pearl IZUMi Canyon Cycling shoes.
Agreed that most new trail bikes with 115-140mm travel are very capable now of handling bigger trails and more technical sections that it really cones down to the type of rider and area. Although the otherside is N+1, bikes are fun 🤪
I would get some new hubs for my bike because my old ones have a fair amount of play and it's pretty scary.
One of the things I noticed when I first started riding and had the "one bike" was how boring it made "average" trails and I'm glad you brought that up as I think that's the biggest factor for getting the appropriate bike for YOU. CHEERS!!!
You're completely correct and I wish I'd heard someone say this a year and a half ago. I started on a 2010 Kona Dawg Deluxe (140 front and back 26in wheels), then i got a 2013 Specialized Stumpjumper Elite (135 rear 150 front 26in wheels) and currently I'm riding a 2016 Scott Genius LT 710 which has 170mm of travel front and back and 27.5 wheels. It was the ransom before the ransom was a thing. I bought it as just a frame, headset, bottom bracket and shock from a riding buddy. I knew my budget for my build so i scoured literally every component distributor online i could find and calculated hundreds if not thousands (no exaggeration) of build options before deciding wich one was the most bang for my buck performance wise and pulled the trigger. Ive been riding it barely over a year and unfortunately its too much bike for the majority of my trails here in the bay area of California. I find the climbs taxing so much of my energy and the frequent braking required due to hikers and equestrians on multiuse trails makes me frequently having to brake and pedal back up to speed and its just the most tiring bike I've ever ridden. I have my eye on either the Forbidden Druid, Esker Rowl, Alchemy Arktos 279 or Yeti SB130 LR. Less travel and bigger wheels is what my local trails call for. I thought i needed all that bike and smaller wheels and i was totally wrong
Just got into the sport. Upgrades for my gt aggressor Pro. Like handlebars,stem ,10 gear cassette, and some nice mountain biking shoes. Also ams protective stickers
I have a RM Instinct “trail bike” and love it. I’ve raced XC for many years on XC bikes both hard tail and FS with 110 travel, my Instinct has 140 travel and not only do I race XC on it I race Enduro on it.
I have carbon wheels with XC tires, bars and cranks that I change very easily depending if racing XC or Enduro.
Granted I still race with my XC 110 travel bikes depending on distance and course type, but my Instinct is ideal for my marathon races that have many types of rough terrain. I highly recommend a trail type bike for any person wanting a do almost anything bike, and I do ride my trail bike a bike parks!
I'd be buying anew set of dh brakes because mine are cross country brakes on a heavy hitting downhill bike
I’d do the shock pump and tire gauge also riding pants, flat pedal shoes, one up’s edc tool
I would get Shimano AM7 shoes, one-up handlebars, a Scott Vivo plus helmet, fox digital shock pump, and finally a topeak digital tire gauge.🤘
got a 2019er giant trance 2 29er with 130/115 fox sus and a quite slack/long geo... does a good job on xc, singletrack and flowy parts of bikepark 👌🏼 haven't pushed its boundaries yet... next on my shopping list: helmet with removeable chinbar and some proper lights
I'd start with a set of 4-piston brakes as I'm a big guy who doesn't heal like I used to and want to be able to stop when I'm chasing my teenage son down the trails. A tubeless set-up kit would be the second purchase. If there is anything left, I'd look for some spring/fall riding pants to keep the old knees dry and warm. Thanks for the opportunity.
I would definitely be heading straight for the helmet and clothing section as my 2 year old helmet is definitely in need of replacement and I could definitely do with expanding my mob wardrobe.
Fox full face helmet, fox pads, 5-10 free rider shoes and probably a few tools
Awesome video. I recently bought a trail/enduro with 160mm in the front and 150 in the back. Chose this travel for the 29 inch weels. I think the difference between trail and enduro is becoming really small. I love it.
With my 500$ i would buy
- fox suspension maintenance tools
- magura brake pads and service kit
- spare tires
- that fox helmet seems awesome.
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I'd like that tire gauge, new grips, 780 bar and some new brakes. I'm half way through upgrading my brakes, just need the rear brakes. I've bought new fronts and rotors but haven't purchased the rear brake yet.
Id put the $500 towards some Z1 forks and get rid of the Rockshox I currently have.
I would love the THULE
T2 Classic - 2 Bike Hitch Rack, this be awesome for when I go to the different trails over the weekend. That is what I will get.
I would put the the money toward some wet weather gear and I would definitely pick up a digital tire gauge.
One of the best video I saw for that topic on UA-cam. Good job mate!
I would pick up parts for an eventual bike build. I would definitely get a Marzocchi Bomber Z2 as my front fork, ideally paired with a Specialized Stumpjumper Evo alloy frame set.