The performance he put in for this scene is exactly why I got super excited when I found out he had been cast to play kingpin for the daredevil series and he did not disappoint
Another little bit of trivia i like is how he then got in shape for the bit part he had in adventures in babysitting where he plays the thor-looking mechanic. Guy is committed
@@locustjohn3865 Ok so I guess including actual other reasons to support your claim is me saying the same thing? Thanks, I’ll just delete my comment since you don’t want things to support what you’re talking about
@@mr.nobody2858 Because you really aren't. You just think you are. I was going to include what you said, but I didn't, because I figured everyone was smart enough to know what I was talking about. Not you. You just automatically assumed that nobody would know those details unless you graced us with your knowledge. That without you, all the dummies wouldn't have the first clue about what I was talking about. That doesn't make you smarter, just a d-bag.
Vincent D'Onorfio deserved an Oscar for this role. Very well done with realistic emotions and actions. I love him as well as R. Lee Ermey and Matthew Modine. All amazing men in every role they do. (To every Vietnam Vet I thank you for your service.)
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corp and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline . Tom Boyte GySgt. USMC, retired Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Thank you sir. If you haven't heard. I support you and you are a hero. David Ward civilian, ran into the Twin towers. As a 20 year old. 44 now and have battled cancer. Thank you ❤
What's sad is I believe he was put in the film as an example of something that actually happened google "macnamara's morons" the DoD let people into the military that had cognitive problems as an experiment to see if they could be utilized in some way
The first instinct would be to run; however, as Private Pyle is a Marine with full training and a loaded firearm, I doubt that Joker could have gotten out of his kill-zone in time. By calling Pyle by his real name, Joker did the right thing, snapping Pyle out of his insanity just long enough for him to end it the only way he could.
I went through Parris Island Marine Bootcamp in 1968. 95% of what is depicted in this movie about Marine Training back then is 100% on the spot accurate! This scene, however is complete fiction! It was virtually impossible for a recruit to steal even one round of ammo let alone 20 rounds which is what the M14 box magazine held. While at the rifle range a range NCO, supported by a armed MP would hand out 5 rounds (could have been 8, that was a long time ago!) to each recruit that was on the firing line. After firing at the targets, we had to return to the Range NCO and present our spent brass. If anyone failed to do so the entire range would be put on Lockdown until the missing cartridge was found and returned. they were very serious about that!
My guess is something like this probably happened in the period immediately preceding you that inspired that policy. Kinda like that "for every stupid warning sign" saying. It's not like US military leadership has ever realized a vulnerability predictively. They just react to the changing battlefield and classify all their failures.
@@Shadare True. I'm sure that some "non hacker" that couldn't handle the training complained to his mommy who in turn complained to her U.S. Congressman or Senator who saw this as a vehicle to get some political attention not really understanding or caring what the training is designed to produce in terms of young people being put in horrific situations of battle with the determination and conditioning necessary to fulfill the mission. It is exactly like the reason for every stupid warning sign! "Nothing is impossible" to the person that doesn't have to do it himself!
@boosuedon absolutely. I also think there's a conversation to be had about how we want to train our infantry if we want to continue to fight "world police" wars instead of the "existential threat" wars that inspired that training, but that's a longer conversation than a youtube comment section. I think the only thing everyone can agree on is that the current military leadership is incompetent at best, regardless of the objective.
I talked to a guy who served in the Korean war. They were training with the B.A.R. and someone lost control of his rifle, even freezing with his finger on the trigger. Many were hit and one was even killed. These procedures you had in 1968 must have been based on earlier incidents like this. Less ammo so you can't wipe out as many people, etc.
Every film student should study this scene. First time seeing this, no one thinks that Pyle and Hartman will die. Why? Because in films like this, the developed characters are important and have plot armor, and Pyle and Hartman are the only two developed characters. So when they both die for no reason...you're shocked, but also are left feeling empty inside. Lesser directors would not have the balls to kill off the only developed characters. It's why Kubrick was so good. It's why we still watch his films.
@@jwayneair As you can see, that is just an urban legend. Ermey helped to write his own dialog...but mostly just the insults. There was still a script, with lines written by the screenwriters (with Ermey's stuff included). Then he had to memorize his lines like any other actor.
Kubrick preempted the Game Of Thrones era anyone can die at any moment. Great film making. However, these boot camp scenes overshadow the rest of the film.
Maybe because we are tired of movies having bad endings? That's one of my biggest problems with horror movies nowadays is they always have a horrible sad ending and That needs to change.
Full metal jacked (FMJ) refers to the type of bullet that was seated into the 7.62x51mm cartridge case. The bullet has a lead core that is encased in a full copper jacket.
Correct, on first watch people miss why this dialogue. Only people who have server understand the military jargon and what Lily said fits perfect with his transformation into a military killing machine.
I remember seeing an episode of Lock and load with R. Lee Ermey and he explained that also using the FMJ was to reduce the amount of lead that would be left behind in the barrel of your rifle.
@ UN rules against using expanding bullets, improved accuracy, keeping bullets from deforming and not feeding, and FMJs being able to penetrate some barriers more easily than softer bullets.
@@dontwitty1656 LOL, The enemy would be d*ad. When you are a captured You're not supposed to sit there and let the enemy yell and belittle you, You're supposed to fight back and escape. I understand what Leonard did and I kind of agree with it. Everyone was singling him out and torturing him And I'm proud of him for standing up to them Because he is a f****** human being And in fact because he's a soldier he's a very important human And he shouldn't be treated like trash every single day Because no human in this world can power through that and come out on top.
@@Truth_Hurts528 , yes but also no. The recent wars were terrible, as all wars are, but Vietnam was the destabilizing factor for an entire generation, affecting all aspects of life (politics, economics and faith in those systems). Iraq/Afghanistan did not have the same overarching effect in my opinion. What happened to our soldiers in Vietnam was atrocious...
@@SCA440 Exactly the soldiers returning home from Iraq/Afghanistan were welcomed back, treated like heroes. Vietnam vets were treated worse than shit upon returning
I've been to Perris Island for my cousin's marine training graduation, back in 2003. It was such an awesome experience! Much love and respect for our men and women in our military.
It is nit PTSD dude was lower, then 85IQ with all life consequances of it, stupid but oddly good at certain elements of the drill(shoting, weapon assembly) . He started to like the army, because it gave him a place , gave him worth. But the US Military , not even the Air Force, does not employ people like him. They told him he and the weapon were one, that without it he was nothing, and then "took it away" . So he reacted the way an 8year old reacts to being sent back to the foster home , because his new parents are having a baby of their own. Pure rage.
At ages 18 to 24, people with a predisposition for disorders onthe schizophrenic spectrum cannot have the dormant gene activated if placed u Der more stress than they can handle. It leads to a permanent personality change and paranoia. It happed to guy in my basic training troop. The drill sergeants addressed it as soon as they found d ou and got him help.since then, I have seen it more as a therapist. All have family reports about how they we fine and then changed after a stressor. Ones have seen were related to sudden relationship changes: i.e. mom remarried And has a new son, waking up in middle.of surgery, and drugs. Specifically, bad hits of Marijuana and LSD. That's why I warn my client away from edibles. The thc is highly concentrateď in order for it to provide the cure all for stress that it has become advertised as. The kids are not ready for the potency, go to it to fix the stress that they should have learned to cope with, then have a mental break. My two worst cases involved paranoia that led.to placing children at risk.
I can say from experience that mentally healthy people don't get PTSD from initial training. And the US military makes every effort to screen out those who aren't physically and mentally capable before they even make it to initial training. When I went through Military Entrance Processing a surprising number of enlistees from my group were sent home. If someone like "Pyle" made it into initial training they'd be sent home soon enough.
@@pnwcruiser I disagree, when i went to basic training in fort benning a few class cycles after mine there was a soldier who did kill himself on the range. Obviously we do training to help deal with stress and nothing we went through was anything like what was shown in the movie (although our class did have a fuck up and we thought about giving him a pillow party but we didn't go through with it) people can breakdown for any number of things: realizing they don't want to be a service member, missing loved ones, or having a ahole drill sgt.
In reality human beings are fragile. We all want to believe we can handle anything/everything that life has in store for us. The truth is we cannot. We each have a breaking point, but where that is, who exactly knows, we certainly do not. Anyone who has gone to that dark place and made it through and can verbally communicate what happened, could tell you the facts. Always remember we are fragile and anything can push us beyond what we can handle.
100%. My breaking point was realizing that my entire community was a cult, and my entire life until that point was a lie, and that God didn't exist. And that happened while I was in college. I was planning out my overdose, when I snapped out of it and went into a psych ward. As a child of divorce and in foster care, I was already on thin ice. Since that day, I haven't been the same, so much so that everyone could tell. I moved away, changed my name, style, ideology, changed my beliefs, changed my diet, exercise routine and yet the flashbacks still come. Weirdly enough though, still listen to some of the same music, still love reading, playing video games, and learning about this crazy world we live in.
Welcome to the real world darling. When I was 21 I was deployed to Iraq with the Australian Army. 7th Brigade, 6th Regiment, 2 Platoon, Bravo Company. We all saw shit that none of you can imagine.
Once Leonard took out Hartman, his life was over. He had a choice: life in prison (or a prison mental hospital) or eating his rifle. I'd say that choice #2 was the better choice.
Yes but I understand why he did it. If he was a good drill sergeant, he would have seen that Leonard was not fit to be a soldier And she would have sent him home the first week or even the first couple days.
I watched this at the base theatre while in basic training when it came out towards the end of it when we were allowed a day of free time. Basic training was definitely harder back then mentally. Over time and because of these sort of cases that did happen, at least in the Air Force, weapons were no longer allowed to be taken out of the rifle range (I am sure this is not the case for Army and Marines), and certainly all ammo was accounted for and watched over very carefully. For the Air Force, the drill instructors were not even allowed in the riffle range to prevent someone tripping over the edge and taking a shot at them. This is a prime example of someone being different and being bullied. It is different in the military in that you cannot carry someone like they had to with him. So they performed a code red on him. That took someone that was already unstable in a way over the edge and we got to see that. This is the same as kids now, raised without knowing how to control their emotions and lash out at others, how to properly treat others, etc. and thus bullie someone else and that person snaps, gets a gun and takes out others and/or takes themselves out. Very sad. We had two cases where we were having to carry two members in our basic training flight. They just could not deal. We all got tired on getting in trouble because of them, having to physically and mentally carry them, but instead of a code red, we wrote them up to the drill instructor. It was peace time so they were sent back to earlier flights and we heard that did not work and one went to the mental ward and the other was medically discharged. Most do not understand the way basic training is done and why. They first need to break you down and then build you back up. Very important. Some cannot handle it. In this case, due to the draft, they got kids that fell into this guys profile. Now they cannot touch you, but they sure can yell at you.
Thank you both for your service. I also was in the Air Force and they did allow yelling but no touching. I believe the TI's used to get away with hitting you with the brim of their hat but that was as far as they would go before I joined. My son is in the Air Force and he said that they didn't yell a lot. I remember my first two nights they kept us awake before giving us a bunk but my son got his his first night. It seems like changes have been made so this doesn't happen but basic was something else. This was such a great movie and I couldn't believe Vincent D'Onofrio was the same guy who played Edgar the Bug in MIB. Great actor.
Back in the 90s , when l was drafted, a dude in my units didn't get his full time contract. He shot the other guard, killed all the animals , unloaded two magazines in to the officers barracks, and then shot himself. We didn't eat meat for 6 months because of him.
after putting in my 20, When the saying is "war is hell" you can expect to be thrown into hell (boot camp) because the enemy will treat you much worse, if they catch you, than what DI's do and they need to ensure that you can handle it because more lives are at stake besides yours, as you can see there are some can't handle it. now it's oh i need a time out- the enemy doesn't give you anytime outs- neither should the military
@@piotrjeske4599 - as a 20 year retired vet; you saying that you were drafted in the 90s. is odd, maybe drafted into some other countries military, which i would thank you for your allied support, but not in the US military because The last draft in the United States was on December 7, 1972, meaning The United States has not had a draft since 1973; the authority to induct expired on June 30, 1973. The last lottery drawing was on March 12, 1975, for men born in 1956, so no one was "drafted" into the US military, in the 90s;
@@MeCanik79 don’t get me wrong I like her channel but dude on her one video I think it was the frightners one she said she’s been in 7 fender benders and 4 accidents which two of them she totaled 2 cars. If I remember correctly Umm yea you should not be driving anything. Not even a damn lawn mower lmao 😅
Hard to believe Vincent also played the mechanic ( Thor) in the Adventure of the Babysitter with Elizabeth Shue the same year talk about body transformation
He had to put on about 80 lbs for the FMJ role. I remember watching him giving an interview and saying that putting on so much weight so quickly was punishing.
Yeah. for those that saw the movie, The part they were talking about with the soap beatdown.....Thats called a Blanket party. That happens when someone consistently and constantly screws up to the point that he doesnt get punished but the rest of the platoon or company gets whats called Mass punishment. So they would all get together and beat him with a towel ladened with some object. (usually a bar of soap or D cell battery). Thats what changed PVT Pyle. he became unhinged after the beat down. in the current military, You are given a brief and are told that you will suffer severe consequences if the Instructors ever found out about blanket parties as the blanket parties carried a hefty fine and 5 years of federal prison time (I think its a 250K fine). As far as suicides, Ive had to deal with 3 of them (and one of them was my wingman during my deployment to Iraq in 2005). Its something ill never ever forget along with those I knew who lost their lives.
Private Pyle went, in one second, from being the joke to the biggest threat in the film. All it took was more than he could bear and an opportunity to return the favor.
What Leonard does at the end is what many men who have been pushed to beyond the limit do, there's no going back from there once you cross that line. It is the only way to be free from the pain
Holy customs and courtesy cluster fudges! He's not a sergeant either. A sergeant of Marines is an E5. He is a gunnery sergeant, aka gunny, guns, two rocker shocker, etc. one last thing, he's a Staff NCO. Remember folks, Marines live like soldiers, talk like sailors and will kick both in the shins 😊.
That was one rough scene. It didn't help enlistment efforts per my Marine Recruiter cousin-in-law. He told those unwilling to "meet the challenge" ..."Go be all you can be. The Army sounds like a better match for you."
This is the greatest scene ever filmed in Cinema history! Vincent and Gunny had such great careers. Rip to Gunny he acted all the way till the end and brought such authenticity to the Drill Sargeant role. If you want a real shocker Pyle's next movie was playing Thor in Adventures in babysitting.
I remember watching this movie at the blanket party scene when Pyle is crying and me laughing, my sensitive dog was whimpering looking at the tv screen then to me. I miss that little dog, she was my buddy.
Full metal jacket is a kind of bullet type of bullet with a soft lead core covered by a copper, brass, cupronickel, steel, or other metal outer sleeve or “jacket,” usually leaving the base of the lead bullet exposed.
I remembered reading that R. Lee Ermey aka Drill Sargeant was worried about hitting Vincent D'Onofrio hard on his head knocking cap of his head. Ermey talked Kubrick about hitting scene as Sargeant's men were practicing drills. Kubrick stated hitting is part of that scene.
No idea why this scene is shocking. The entire movie is building up to this point. Ermey is playing an atypical instructor who takes more pleasure from harming the recruits than he does training them. He got his just reward.
Ermey was playing a typical drill instructor. You notice that once Leonard started to show improvement and proved that he was a good shot, Hartman actually complimented him, telling him that could make it as a rifleman in the Corps. Ermey said himself in interviews that the only reason he was hard on recruits was because he wanted them to survive the war. There was no malice in his insults, he treated everyone equally, and simply knew he had to toughen them up to prepare them for the horrors they would have to endure.
I got desensitized to this movie when I was 15 because I watched it so much, so it feels weird to see people watch it the first time and have shocked reactions
Watching the women's reactions is entertaining enough. They have never seen anyone who has been stressed trained for months on end. Let alone, what the military is actually like.
one of the best scenes in a movie shows what happened when you push someone pass their limits, not everyone is cut out to be a soldier, and no body realised what was happening to Leonard in fact the gunny continues to push him and you see the outcome they did him wrong exactly right
I'm a former Marine, having been a recruit in 1981. This is an extremely accurate picture of how some marginal recruits can "snap". We never had this actually happen; however, one recruit DID smuggle live rds from the range; his rounds were discovered in a "Health and Welfare inspection" [a polite phrase for an illegal shakedown]. Nobody got shot, but the MPs came and we never saw that recruit again. Regarding the film, had Joker ran, he would've become "prey", and likely would've been killed as well. Kubrick, in this sequence totally captured the transformation from an average young man, into a "human doberman in uniform", who can/will kill 'on command'. Normal young men can usually "keep it together", even under fire. Marginal/ "borderline" people CAN be pushed "over the edge". Whether it results in a catastrophic incident in training, is subject to a wide range of variables. The REASON for the harshness of the training, is so that if one is likely to 'snap under fire', he will be discovered and weeded out in a CONTROLLED environment, hopefully without any unnecessary injury to anyone. If someone snaps in battle, it will usually get THEM killed, as WELL as those immediately around him. Imagine if the scene involved a live hand-grenade at a range [there ARE instances of that HAPPENING. I remember walking past a laundry/uniform shop in downtown Oceanside [Hill St at the bus terminal; as of 1988, the terminal was something else.], outside of Camp Pendleton. There was a T-shirt in "olive drab"; it read, "Join the Marines; travel to far-away exotic lands; meet new and interesting people...and KILL them." Sounds sick and twisted, doesn't it? But it's the TRUTH; as God is My Witness! That's what the Marines want; and what and why they train their recruits as they do. The trick is to keep them under control enough to "turn it on and off" in a disciplined, military manner. Sometimes "a gear snaps a tooth, and the machine has to be fixed." And that's about as much care or concern "the machine" has for it's people. It's unfortunate if people get hurt or killed, but the MISSION is what MATTERS. Kubrick caught the underlying, disturbing reality in a manner that nobody before, or since, has been able to capture so vividly. People NEED to see how young minds are twisted to the breaking point. That is NOT to say that Basic Training/Boot Camp needs to be more "humane", or "sensitive". All THAT will do is get MORE people KILLED, as "A chain is ONLY as strong as its WEAKEST link." Iron doesn't become STEEL until you put it through the FIRE. "The MORE we sweat in peace, the LESS we bleed in war". A REAL enemy will NOT "cut you ANY slack WHATSOEVER; and 2nd place...is DEAD.😮
I am a x marine and the idea that rectruits had access to live rounds in basic training is ridiculous and unbelievably absurd. The only way to get ammunition is by it being given out by armory personnel under the supervision of the drill instructor….. during training when qualifying on the rifle range….. NOT REAL OR POSSIBLE
Come on, referring to yourself as an "x marine" versus "former Marine" is suspect. Everyday on the range the recruits are given 250 rounds, do you think it would be hard to take a round here or there?
7:31 playing these boots are meant for walking after the insanity of boot camp, is a wild af metaphor. The US means to turn soilders into what we just witnessed, so they can bring it to the battle field. "These boots are meant for walking, and that's just what they'll do. One of these days these boots are going to walk all over you" Sure, we live an easier life in America than most countries, and people think we're soft because of it. In many cases that's true, but there is a reason America is powerful af, this is it.
>> Stanley Kubrick, who died on March 7, 1999, thought exotic locations were unnecessary: he filmed in the London docks. His almost deserted battlefields seem more eerie than any war scene strewn with corpses. What makes his story of war so unique is that the cruelty does not begin there, at the front, but right here, in the camp.
I never realized, but the girl from the Movie Munchies said something that really hit me hard. As soon as Leonard shot Hartman shes says "thats your product". She said it all. Hartman took a low IQ simpleton and turned him into a killer. Mission accomplished.
I am a Vietnam veteran. During this era, it was against the law to hit a trainee, and any racist comments were strictly forbidden, this was the civil rights era. Hartman would have been court-martialed for driving an unfit trainee to madness, murder, and suicide. Hartman was a humorous sadist who got his due. The characters in this film are mostly silly and don't reflect the seriousness or competence of Vietnam combat troops, watch "The Anderson Platoon", Marc Levy version.
R Lee Ermey aka "Gunny" had raised his concerns to director, Stanley Kubrick about his character smacking Pyle against his head knocking off the cap during practicing drills scene. Kubrick stated that it is in the script. By the way, as you, Ermey was a drill instructor from 1965 to 1967 at San Diego. I figured that abusing trainees is a no no in any branches of the military. But what made it made Pyle going off the edge when other trainees were beating him with their bars of soap as he was held against his will on his bed. Hartman would have faced another charge inciting trainees do a "blanket party" because Joker even though that he was part of the party would have testified for possible lesser charge of hazing! Anyway, Vincent did an excellent portrayal of unhinged recruit abused by his sergeant Thank you for service, sir!
@@MrTech226 Ermey was in "The Boys From Company C." It is a much, much more realistic portrayal of boot camp. Kubrick saw him in TBFCC and hired him right away. Ermey was basically told to turn his previous performance up to 11. Into parody level. What is weird is how later real life DIs mimicked this performance. Making life imitating art.
I also wonder how he got hold of live ammo. During training our live ammo was always kept separate and we didn't have access to either live rounds or weapons. I was in both desert in the Afghan and Desert Strom conflicts and did my training in the mid 90's.
I'm a Marine. In the 60s, there weren't any protections in place for those with mental handicaps as there are now. Think Forrest Gump. IQ of 75, supposedly. That movie, as well as this one, reflect that Vietnam, and the draft that came with it, did not disciminate. Those with autism or similiar conditions were just looked at as slow and stubborn learners who required more brute force than others to "get with the program" of war. Imagine the character of Leonard Lawrence as a high functioning autistic young man and this movie becomes much harder to watch. He went one way. Animal Mother went the other way. Both characters are off. I have never met a Marine that acted like either. Their attitudes would immediately have them sent to the wizard nowadays. It's sad that we learn these lessons one death at a time.
Gunney R. Lee Ermey was in fact a real Marine Drill Instructor. He was on set as an advisor. When the actor playing the DI couldn’t get it right, Gunney went to wardrobe and put on a uniform and came out in character, which was previously his actual job, and went full DI on everyone. Kubrick then made him the actor. Gunney’s boot camp scene was not scripted, it was all from experience. It was one of the few times Kubrick allowed an actor to do such.
Vincent d'onofrio crushed that role. Especially this scene. There's literally nothing left of him at the end. A soulless void.
FYI, interesting documentary on youtube
..how he hurt his knee during filming, gained weight for the part, etc.
The performance he put in for this scene is exactly why I got super excited when I found out he had been cast to play kingpin for the daredevil series and he did not disappoint
@@patrickevans9604he gets into any role and makes it his own. I had no idea he was the bug/farmer in Men in Black.
@@vytalman oh I always forget about Edgar lol. Dude is definitely good
Another little bit of trivia i like is how he then got in shape for the bit part he had in adventures in babysitting where he plays the thor-looking mechanic. Guy is committed
From the first time I watched this, I felt that the only thing that saved Joker was calling Pyle "Leonard."
@@locustjohn3865 Ok so I guess including actual other reasons to support your claim is me saying the same thing? Thanks, I’ll just delete my comment since you don’t want things to support what you’re talking about
@@mr.nobody2858 Way to assume that everyone else is not nearly as smart as you, so you have to explain something that everyone already understands.
@@locustjohn3865 What does me being smart have to do with anything mate?
@@mr.nobody2858 Because you really aren't. You just think you are.
I was going to include what you said, but I didn't, because I figured everyone was smart enough to know what I was talking about. Not you. You just automatically assumed that nobody would know those details unless you graced us with your knowledge. That without you, all the dummies wouldn't have the first clue about what I was talking about. That doesn't make you smarter, just a d-bag.
@@locustjohn3865 When did I say I think I was smart you jackass? I never even implied it
This is Vincent D'Onofrio's first major role, and he's unforgettable given how young he was then. Gives me the shivers.
Really? I didn't know!
This, I think, is his best role.
I just want to give him a hug. He always throws himself into every role.
His first role. He was a bouncer just prior to this.
@@jwayneair A grinning bouncer. :)
Vincent D'Onorfio deserved an Oscar for this role. Very well done with realistic emotions and actions. I love him as well as R. Lee Ermey and Matthew Modine. All amazing men in every role they do. (To every Vietnam Vet I thank you for your service.)
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corp and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline .
Tom Boyte
GySgt. USMC, retired
Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Thank you sir. If you haven't heard. I support you and you are a hero. David Ward civilian, ran into the Twin towers. As a 20 year old. 44 now and have battled cancer. Thank you ❤
military is just welfare+ now a days and hates real americans
Thank you for your service.
Thank you for serving our country sir 💜
Thank you for your Service, GySgt. Thank you for my Freedom 🫡
Ive watched this scene a million times, it still gets to me. Private Pyle is such a tragic character.
"I am...in a world...of shit" is the line that defines the whole film for me
Leonard!
What's sad is I believe he was put in the film as an example of something that actually happened google "macnamara's morons" the DoD let people into the military that had cognitive problems as an experiment to see if they could be utilized in some way
"You're okay, man?" "I don't think he is." Perfect beginning to this compilation.
HIIIIIII LOCUST
I love how this film makes the full metal jacket seem like its not the least deadly round they have....
Crazy scene.
The first instinct would be to run; however, as Private Pyle is a Marine with full training and a loaded firearm, I doubt that Joker could have gotten out of his kill-zone in time. By calling Pyle by his real name, Joker did the right thing, snapping Pyle out of his insanity just long enough for him to end it the only way he could.
D'Onofrio's performance in this scene alone, makes it one of the scariest of all time
The Marines wanted killers. Private Pyle answered the call.
I’m dead 😵 like Pyle and the Sergeant
Pyle would've spent the rest of his existence in a stockade.
I still use "What is your major malfunction numbnuts?" to this day 😂
For me, it’s “What is this Mickey Mouse shit?!” whenever things get weird.
@@megamarsonic yeah I use that... occasionally will throw in the twinkletoed cocksucker bit too because it's just too damn good :D
"What's your major malfunction" was mos def a thing in the 90's, with "douche bag" "dip shit" from T2
@@megamarsonic I always think of Leon with "I haven't got time for this Mickey Mouse Bullshit" maybe that is the ref
I went through Parris Island Marine Bootcamp in 1968. 95% of what is depicted in this movie about Marine Training back then is 100% on the spot accurate! This scene, however is complete fiction! It was virtually impossible for a recruit to steal even one round of ammo let alone 20 rounds which is what the M14 box magazine held. While at the rifle range a range NCO, supported by a armed MP would hand out 5 rounds (could have been 8, that was a long time ago!) to each recruit that was on the firing line. After firing at the targets, we had to return to the Range NCO and present our spent brass. If anyone failed to do so the entire range would be put on Lockdown until the missing cartridge was found and returned. they were very serious about that!
My guess is something like this probably happened in the period immediately preceding you that inspired that policy. Kinda like that "for every stupid warning sign" saying. It's not like US military leadership has ever realized a vulnerability predictively. They just react to the changing battlefield and classify all their failures.
@@Shadare True. I'm sure that some "non hacker" that couldn't handle the training complained to his mommy who in turn complained to her U.S. Congressman or Senator who saw this as a vehicle to get some political attention not really understanding or caring what the training is designed to produce in terms of young people being put in horrific situations of battle with the determination and conditioning necessary to fulfill the mission. It is exactly like the reason for every stupid warning sign! "Nothing is impossible" to the person that doesn't have to do it himself!
@boosuedon absolutely. I also think there's a conversation to be had about how we want to train our infantry if we want to continue to fight "world police" wars instead of the "existential threat" wars that inspired that training, but that's a longer conversation than a youtube comment section. I think the only thing everyone can agree on is that the current military leadership is incompetent at best, regardless of the objective.
You’re absolutely correct. But if this did happen, can you imagine the investigation and changes in policy that would result?
I talked to a guy who served in the Korean war. They were training with the B.A.R. and someone lost control of his rifle, even freezing with his finger on the trigger. Many were hit and one was even killed.
These procedures you had in 1968 must have been based on earlier incidents like this. Less ammo so you can't wipe out as many people, etc.
I saw this in the theater twice and both times it was one of the most powerful theater going experiences ever.
Every film student should study this scene. First time seeing this, no one thinks that Pyle and Hartman will die. Why? Because in films like this, the developed characters are important and have plot armor, and Pyle and Hartman are the only two developed characters. So when they both die for no reason...you're shocked, but also are left feeling empty inside. Lesser directors would not have the balls to kill off the only developed characters. It's why Kubrick was so good. It's why we still watch his films.
Gunney Ermey’s monologue was unscripted, purely from experience as a Marine DI. One of the few times Kubrick allowed, or wanted, an actor to do so.
@@jwayneair As you can see, that is just an urban legend. Ermey helped to write his own dialog...but mostly just the insults. There was still a script, with lines written by the screenwriters (with Ermey's stuff included). Then he had to memorize his lines like any other actor.
Exactly
Kubrick preempted the Game Of Thrones era anyone can die at any moment. Great film making. However, these boot camp scenes overshadow the rest of the film.
Maybe because we are tired of movies having bad endings? That's one of my biggest problems with horror movies nowadays is they always have a horrible sad ending and That needs to change.
Full metal jacked (FMJ) refers to the type of bullet that was seated into the 7.62x51mm cartridge case. The bullet has a lead core that is encased in a full copper jacket.
Correct. It's meant for piercing armor as opposed to a soft tip or hollow point hunting round that are designed to mushroom upon contact.
Correct, on first watch people miss why this dialogue. Only people who have server understand the military jargon and what Lily said fits perfect with his transformation into a military killing machine.
Armor-piercing ammo has a steel core. The copper jacket on standard lead ammo is to keep lead from building up in the barrel.
I remember seeing an episode of Lock and load with R. Lee Ermey and he explained that also using the FMJ was to reduce the amount of lead that would be left behind in the barrel of your rifle.
@ UN rules against using expanding bullets, improved accuracy, keeping bullets from deforming and not feeding, and FMJs being able to penetrate some barriers more easily than softer bullets.
From this, his first role, you could tell D''Onofrio was destined to be one of the greatest actors of all-time.
I hate being a dick, but this was his 3rd film. The First Turn On was his first. He is one my favorite, he was awesome in The Cell
I'm not positive but I think VD next role was in "mystic pizza," where his role is completely different. You prob wouldn't recognize him.
You mean Men in Black and The Hulk??? 😆😅🤣😂
One of the greatest of all time was one hit wonder!
The fact that Vincent D'onofrio played Thor in "Adventures in Babysitting" that very same summer has never stopped being so damn amazing to me.
That was even the same year?! Wow.
@@Michael-ns1ey I think the time to make the film was LONG. Long enough for him to either lose the weight or gain it for the roles.
Everyone’s reactions are spot on they pushed this man over the edge
the enemy would have gone even further.
I got pushed down the stairs 😂😂😂
@@dontwitty1656Or... he would unalived plenty of them.
@@dontwitty1656Nope they were training him to be a killing machine and he obliged.
@@dontwitty1656 LOL, The enemy would be d*ad. When you are a captured You're not supposed to sit there and let the enemy yell and belittle you, You're supposed to fight back and escape. I understand what Leonard did and I kind of agree with it. Everyone was singling him out and torturing him And I'm proud of him for standing up to them Because he is a f****** human being And in fact because he's a soldier he's a very important human And he shouldn't be treated like trash every single day Because no human in this world can power through that and come out on top.
I believe this is the BEST acting you'll ever see....amazing that it was just a movie!
These young people have no idea what Perris Island was like and what Vietnam did to an entire generation of soldiers...
or even what Iraq and Afghanistan did to a generation of soldiers
@@Truth_Hurts528 , yes but also no. The recent wars were terrible, as all wars are, but Vietnam was the destabilizing factor for an entire generation, affecting all aspects of life (politics, economics and faith in those systems). Iraq/Afghanistan did not have the same overarching effect in my opinion. What happened to our soldiers in Vietnam was atrocious...
@@SCA440 Exactly the soldiers returning home from Iraq/Afghanistan were welcomed back, treated like heroes. Vietnam vets were treated worse than shit upon returning
I've been to Perris Island for my cousin's marine training graduation, back in 2003. It was such an awesome experience! Much love and respect for our men and women in our military.
Y para que querían llevar libertad a Vietnam? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I never would have expected someone would get PTSD in basic training and then the realization that he wasn't done
It is nit PTSD dude was lower, then 85IQ with all life consequances of it, stupid but oddly good at certain elements of the drill(shoting, weapon assembly) . He started to like the army, because it gave him a place , gave him worth. But the US Military , not even the Air Force, does not employ people like him. They told him he and the weapon were one, that without it he was nothing, and then "took it away" . So he reacted the way an 8year old reacts to being sent back to the foster home , because his new parents are having a baby of their own. Pure rage.
At ages 18 to 24, people with a predisposition for disorders onthe schizophrenic spectrum cannot have the dormant gene activated if placed u Der more stress than they can handle. It leads to a permanent personality change and paranoia. It happed to guy in my basic training troop. The drill sergeants addressed it as soon as they found d ou and got him help.since then, I have seen it more as a therapist. All have family reports about how they we fine and then changed after a stressor. Ones have seen were related to sudden relationship changes: i.e. mom remarried And has a new son, waking up in middle.of surgery, and drugs. Specifically, bad hits of Marijuana and LSD. That's why I warn my client away from edibles. The thc is highly concentrateď in order for it to provide the cure all for stress that it has become advertised as. The kids are not ready for the potency, go to it to fix the stress that they should have learned to cope with, then have a mental break. My two worst cases involved paranoia that led.to placing children at risk.
I can say from experience that mentally healthy people don't get PTSD from initial training. And the US military makes every effort to screen out those who aren't physically and mentally capable before they even make it to initial training. When I went through Military Entrance Processing a surprising number of enlistees from my group were sent home. If someone like "Pyle" made it into initial training they'd be sent home soon enough.
@@pnwcruiser I assume back then during the draft they weren't as concerned.
@@pnwcruiser I disagree, when i went to basic training in fort benning a few class cycles after mine there was a soldier who did kill himself on the range. Obviously we do training to help deal with stress and nothing we went through was anything like what was shown in the movie (although our class did have a fuck up and we thought about giving him a pillow party but we didn't go through with it) people can breakdown for any number of things: realizing they don't want to be a service member, missing loved ones, or having a ahole drill sgt.
As a young child watching this I thought Leonard was going to turn out to be the biggest badass of all. So this scene was brutal.
Of the likely thousands of movies I've watched in my 60+ years ... This scene is the most 😮
In reality human beings are fragile. We all want to believe we can handle anything/everything that life has in store for us. The truth is we cannot. We each have a breaking point, but where that is, who exactly knows, we certainly do not. Anyone who has gone to that dark place and made it through and can verbally communicate what happened, could tell you the facts. Always remember we are fragile and anything can push us beyond what we can handle.
100%. My breaking point was realizing that my entire community was a cult, and my entire life until that point was a lie, and that God didn't exist. And that happened while I was in college. I was planning out my overdose, when I snapped out of it and went into a psych ward. As a child of divorce and in foster care, I was already on thin ice. Since that day, I haven't been the same, so much so that everyone could tell. I moved away, changed my name, style, ideology, changed my beliefs, changed my diet, exercise routine and yet the flashbacks still come. Weirdly enough though, still listen to some of the same music, still love reading, playing video games, and learning about this crazy world we live in.
One the greatest scenes in movie history. FMJ Is great from the start to end.
Kubrick is the greatest of all time
Welcome to the real world darling. When I was 21 I was deployed to Iraq with the Australian Army. 7th Brigade, 6th Regiment, 2 Platoon, Bravo Company. We all saw shit that none of you can imagine.
It’s true we had to see what others didn’t. Personally, I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Once Leonard took out Hartman, his life was over.
He had a choice: life in prison (or a prison mental hospital) or eating his rifle. I'd say that choice #2 was the better choice.
Most definitely.
Yes but I understand why he did it. If he was a good drill sergeant, he would have seen that Leonard was not fit to be a soldier And she would have sent him home the first week or even the first couple days.
I watched this at the base theatre while in basic training when it came out towards the end of it when we were allowed a day of free time. Basic training was definitely harder back then mentally. Over time and because of these sort of cases that did happen, at least in the Air Force, weapons were no longer allowed to be taken out of the rifle range (I am sure this is not the case for Army and Marines), and certainly all ammo was accounted for and watched over very carefully. For the Air Force, the drill instructors were not even allowed in the riffle range to prevent someone tripping over the edge and taking a shot at them.
This is a prime example of someone being different and being bullied. It is different in the military in that you cannot carry someone like they had to with him. So they performed a code red on him. That took someone that was already unstable in a way over the edge and we got to see that. This is the same as kids now, raised without knowing how to control their emotions and lash out at others, how to properly treat others, etc. and thus bullie someone else and that person snaps, gets a gun and takes out others and/or takes themselves out. Very sad.
We had two cases where we were having to carry two members in our basic training flight. They just could not deal. We all got tired on getting in trouble because of them, having to physically and mentally carry them, but instead of a code red, we wrote them up to the drill instructor. It was peace time so they were sent back to earlier flights and we heard that did not work and one went to the mental ward and the other was medically discharged. Most do not understand the way basic training is done and why. They first need to break you down and then build you back up. Very important. Some cannot handle it. In this case, due to the draft, they got kids that fell into this guys profile. Now they cannot touch you, but they sure can yell at you.
I agree. I joined the Marines in 1968 and was in Vietnam in early '69.
Thank you both for your service. I also was in the Air Force and they did allow yelling but no touching. I believe the TI's used to get away with hitting you with the brim of their hat but that was as far as they would go before I joined. My son is in the Air Force and he said that they didn't yell a lot. I remember my first two nights they kept us awake before giving us a bunk but my son got his his first night. It seems like changes have been made so this doesn't happen but basic was something else. This was such a great movie and I couldn't believe Vincent D'Onofrio was the same guy who played Edgar the Bug in MIB. Great actor.
Back in the 90s , when l was drafted, a dude in my units didn't get his full time contract. He shot the other guard, killed all the animals , unloaded two magazines in to the officers barracks, and then shot himself. We didn't eat meat for 6 months because of him.
after putting in my 20, When the saying is "war is hell" you can expect to be thrown into hell (boot camp) because the enemy will treat you much worse, if they catch you, than what DI's do and they need to ensure that you can handle it because more lives are at stake besides yours, as you can see there are some can't handle it. now it's oh i need a time out- the enemy doesn't give you anytime outs- neither should the military
@@piotrjeske4599 - as a 20 year retired vet; you saying that you were drafted in the 90s. is odd, maybe drafted into some other countries military, which i would thank you for your allied support, but not in the US military because The last draft in the United States was on December 7, 1972, meaning The United States has not had a draft since 1973; the authority to induct expired on June 30, 1973. The last lottery drawing was on March 12, 1975, for men born in 1956, so no one was "drafted" into the US military, in the 90s;
I swear i hope Popcorn In Bed never has a real problem in life.
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She can’t even drive a car. 😂
@@THEFORT89. That's actually very believable.
@@MeCanik79 don’t get me wrong I like her channel but dude on her one video I think it was the frightners one she said she’s been in 7 fender benders and 4 accidents which two of them she totaled 2 cars. If I remember correctly Umm yea you should not be driving anything. Not even a damn lawn mower lmao 😅
@@THEFORT89. I have a sister like that. She's a curse. If she gets near a car, it'll be totaled within the hour.
Maybe the most intense scene in cinematic history!!! Acting, direction, cinematography... Absolute genius!!! Vicente D'Nofrio is an amazing actor!!!
One of them. Come and See is another that has many moments like this
Hard to believe Vincent also played the mechanic ( Thor) in the Adventure of the Babysitter with Elizabeth Shue the same year talk about body transformation
And the farmer snatched by the alien in Men in Black
He had to put on about 80 lbs for the FMJ role. I remember watching him giving an interview and saying that putting on so much weight so quickly was punishing.
Yeah. for those that saw the movie, The part they were talking about with the soap beatdown.....Thats called a Blanket party. That happens when someone consistently and constantly screws up to the point that he doesnt get punished but the rest of the platoon or company gets whats called Mass punishment. So they would all get together and beat him with a towel ladened with some object. (usually a bar of soap or D cell battery). Thats what changed PVT Pyle. he became unhinged after the beat down.
in the current military, You are given a brief and are told that you will suffer severe consequences if the Instructors ever found out about blanket parties as the blanket parties carried a hefty fine and 5 years of federal prison time (I think its a 250K fine). As far as suicides, Ive had to deal with 3 of them (and one of them was my wingman during my deployment to Iraq in 2005). Its something ill never ever forget along with those I knew who lost their lives.
Thank you for your service 🙏
Private Pyle went, in one second, from being the joke to the biggest threat in the film. All it took was more than he could bear and an opportunity to return the favor.
The inhale/exhale right before he shoots is the cherry on top of an unsettling and creepy sundae.
I saw this in the theater and this was the most intense scene ive ever watched.
Vincent is an amazing actor
THIS IS MY RIFLE, THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE!!!.
I remember when i did Night Watch and found a Private sleeping in the Head. Scared the Hell out of me! I immediately thought of this scene! Lol
What Leonard does at the end is what many men who have been pushed to beyond the limit do, there's no going back from there once you cross that line. It is the only way to be free from the pain
He's not a captain. He's a Sargeant. Officers don't train troops. NCO's do.
Holy customs and courtesy cluster fudges! He's not a sergeant either. A sergeant of Marines is an E5. He is a gunnery sergeant, aka gunny, guns, two rocker shocker, etc. one last thing, he's a Staff NCO. Remember folks, Marines live like soldiers, talk like sailors and will kick both in the shins 😊.
The only time in this movie that Hartman wasn’t screaming, is this scene … right after Joker tells him that PVT Pyle is loaded and locked.
That was one rough scene.
It didn't help enlistment efforts per my Marine Recruiter cousin-in-law.
He told those unwilling to "meet the challenge"
..."Go be all you can be. The Army sounds like a better match for you."
Marines of my generation cite this movie as one of the reasons we enlisted. Marines are different before they get to bootcamp.
But then a Few Good Men came out and made up for it
I looked at the title and said "oh, this is the trauma episode!" 😂 This generation ain't ready for this.
If you think Vincent was crazy in this check out the Cell with Jennifer Lopez where he played a serial killer.
That movie was so good!
When I was on Parris Island in 1984, there were stories about recruits shooting Drill Instructors. So when this movie came out I wasn’t surprised.
This is the greatest scene ever filmed in Cinema history! Vincent and Gunny had such great careers. Rip to Gunny he acted all the way till the end and brought such authenticity to the Drill Sargeant role. If you want a real shocker Pyle's next movie was playing Thor in Adventures in babysitting.
Jack Nicholson did the Kubrick Stare. Malcolm McDowell did the Kubrick Stare. Vincent D'Onofrio PERFECTED the Kubrick Stare.
I remember watching this movie at the blanket party scene when Pyle is crying and me laughing, my sensitive dog was whimpering looking at the tv screen then to me. I miss that little dog, she was my buddy.
"THIS IS MY RIFLE! THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINEEEE!" he delivers that so good lol
Incredible acting by Vincent!
This movie is true to life. Many men in the Service have Taken Their Live's.
Funny, Everyone was saying for Joker to run, when Pile pointed the riffle at him. Marine's do not Run away from danger.
When Vincent D’Onofrio’s mom saw the movie, she was so freaked out by the suicide scene that she immediately called him to make sure he was OK.
Poor thing would have been heartbroken at the blanket party too :(
Everyone is shocked by the gore of Pyle's final shot. It is actually tame compared to how it would look in reality...
It's Vincent De Onofrio the guy they picked on. His character doesn't want to be in military but force to.They push him to far that he snap.
Yep every man and woman has their breaking point.
Full metal jacket is a kind of bullet type of bullet with a soft lead core covered by a copper, brass, cupronickel, steel, or other metal outer sleeve or “jacket,” usually leaving the base of the lead bullet exposed.
I remembered reading that R. Lee Ermey aka Drill Sargeant was worried about hitting Vincent D'Onofrio hard on his head knocking cap of his head. Ermey talked Kubrick about hitting scene as Sargeant's men were practicing drills. Kubrick stated hitting is part of that scene.
No idea why this scene is shocking. The entire movie is building up to this point. Ermey is playing an atypical instructor who takes more pleasure from harming the recruits than he does training them. He got his just reward.
Ermey was playing a typical drill instructor. You notice that once Leonard started to show improvement and proved that he was a good shot, Hartman actually complimented him, telling him that could make it as a rifleman in the Corps.
Ermey said himself in interviews that the only reason he was hard on recruits was because he wanted them to survive the war. There was no malice in his insults, he treated everyone equally, and simply knew he had to toughen them up to prepare them for the horrors they would have to endure.
Private Joker: 'If Hartman catches us will both be in a world of shit.'
Private Pyle: 'I am in a world of...shit.'
I love that R. Lee Ermy was the Drill Sergeant in this movie, being that he was a real Marine Drill Sergeant.
I grew up with this movie,. DAD is Vietnam vet. The little he's talked it about it, this seems right
Have watched this film several times but only just asked myself why the hell R. Lee Ermey has his friggin' hat on when he comes out of his room
Marines are weird like that.
Because a drill sgt can be naked, but not wearing nothing on his head.
That's not a hat. That's how a DI's head is shaped.
A Drill Sergeant would never be caught in the barracks without his hat. 😂
Only thing he needed to show rank
One of the best scenes of any movie ever made
13:44
Addie: Hi...
Pyle: HI JOKER.
Addie: 😨
I got desensitized to this movie when I was 15 because I watched it so much, so it feels weird to see people watch it the first time and have shocked reactions
Watching the women's reactions is entertaining enough. They have never seen anyone who has been stressed trained for months on end. Let alone, what the military is actually like.
"I don't think he's mentally all there.." Good observation guy from RTTV LOL
That poor blonde girl is seriously traumatized.
Hahahahaha😂😂😂😂😂
That’s why world is so weak nowadays
Sometimes she reacts with her sister, who tries to avoid scary movies.
'Popcorn in bed' she seems a gentle soul
@@diegonaupa1070She seems like a sweet gal. Better her than more psychopaths.
I hope this is in every film school in existence. Masterful work across the board.
We had to watch this just before boot camp in 1988. Loved it.
The music during this scene is perfection. It sounds like someone breathing in and out slowly.
I saw Popcorn in Beds reaction. This movie totaly traumatized that poor girl.
She's nice but such a naive summer child at times
one of the best scenes in a movie shows what happened when you push someone pass their limits, not everyone is cut out to be a soldier, and no body realised what was happening to Leonard in fact the gunny continues to push him and you see the outcome they did him wrong exactly right
"he's gonna become the leader" HAHAHA
I'm a former Marine, having been a recruit in 1981. This is an extremely accurate picture of how some marginal recruits can "snap". We never had this actually happen; however, one recruit DID smuggle live rds from the range; his rounds were discovered in a "Health and Welfare inspection" [a polite phrase for an illegal shakedown]. Nobody got shot, but the MPs came and we never saw that recruit again.
Regarding the film, had Joker ran, he would've become "prey", and likely would've been killed as well.
Kubrick, in this sequence totally captured the transformation from an average young man, into a "human doberman in uniform", who can/will kill 'on command'. Normal young men can usually "keep it together", even under fire. Marginal/ "borderline" people CAN be pushed "over the edge". Whether it results in a catastrophic incident in training, is subject to a wide range of variables.
The REASON for the harshness of the training, is so that if one is likely to 'snap under fire', he will be discovered and weeded out in a CONTROLLED environment, hopefully without any unnecessary injury to anyone. If someone snaps in battle, it will usually get THEM killed, as WELL as those immediately around him. Imagine if the scene involved a live hand-grenade at a range [there ARE instances of that HAPPENING.
I remember walking past a laundry/uniform shop in downtown Oceanside [Hill St at the bus terminal; as of 1988, the terminal was something else.], outside of Camp Pendleton. There was a T-shirt in "olive drab"; it read, "Join the Marines; travel to far-away exotic lands; meet new and interesting people...and KILL them." Sounds sick and twisted, doesn't it? But it's the TRUTH; as God is My Witness!
That's what the Marines want; and what and why they train their recruits as they do. The trick is to keep them under control enough to "turn it on and off" in a disciplined, military manner. Sometimes "a gear snaps a tooth, and the machine has to be fixed." And that's about as much care or concern "the machine" has for it's people. It's unfortunate if people get hurt or killed, but the MISSION is what MATTERS.
Kubrick caught the underlying, disturbing reality in a manner that nobody before, or since, has been able to capture so vividly.
People NEED to see how young minds are twisted to the breaking point. That is NOT to say that Basic Training/Boot Camp needs to be more "humane", or "sensitive". All THAT will do is get MORE people KILLED, as "A chain is ONLY as strong as its WEAKEST link." Iron doesn't become STEEL until you put it through the FIRE. "The MORE we sweat in peace, the LESS we bleed in war".
A REAL enemy will NOT "cut you ANY slack WHATSOEVER; and 2nd place...is DEAD.😮
I am a x marine and the idea that rectruits had access to live rounds in basic training is ridiculous and unbelievably absurd. The only way to get ammunition is by it being given out by armory personnel under the supervision of the drill instructor….. during training when qualifying on the rifle range….. NOT REAL OR POSSIBLE
Come on, referring to yourself as an "x marine" versus "former Marine" is suspect. Everyday on the range the recruits are given 250 rounds, do you think it would be hard to take a round here or there?
"Kubrick stare" is an accurate description
7:31 playing these boots are meant for walking after the insanity of boot camp, is a wild af metaphor.
The US means to turn soilders into what we just witnessed, so they can bring it to the battle field.
"These boots are meant for walking, and that's just what they'll do. One of these days these boots are going to walk all over you"
Sure, we live an easier life in America than most countries, and people think we're soft because of it. In many cases that's true, but there is a reason America is powerful af, this is it.
>> Stanley Kubrick, who died on March 7, 1999, thought exotic locations were unnecessary: he filmed in the London docks.
His almost deserted battlefields seem more eerie than any war scene strewn with corpses.
What makes his story of war so unique is that the cruelty does not begin there, at the front, but right here, in the camp.
I was 14 years old when Dad showed me this movie. His point was he was 19 when he was drafted
Pyle snapped the only thing that saved the joker by his real name
I never realized, but the girl from the Movie Munchies said something that really hit me hard. As soon as Leonard shot Hartman shes says "thats your product". She said it all. Hartman took a low IQ simpleton and turned him into a killer. Mission accomplished.
I am a Vietnam veteran. During this era, it was against the law to hit a trainee, and any racist comments were strictly forbidden, this was the civil rights era. Hartman would have been court-martialed for driving an unfit trainee to madness, murder, and suicide. Hartman was a humorous sadist who got his due. The characters in this film are mostly silly and don't reflect the seriousness or competence of Vietnam combat troops, watch "The Anderson Platoon", Marc Levy version.
R Lee Ermey aka "Gunny" had raised his concerns to director, Stanley Kubrick about his character smacking Pyle against his head knocking off the cap during practicing drills scene. Kubrick stated that it is in the script. By the way, as you, Ermey was a drill instructor from 1965 to 1967 at San Diego. I figured that abusing trainees is a no no in any branches of the military. But what made it made Pyle going off the edge when other trainees were beating him with their bars of soap as he was held against his will on his bed. Hartman would have faced another charge inciting trainees do a "blanket party" because Joker even though that he was part of the party would have testified for possible lesser charge of hazing! Anyway, Vincent did an excellent portrayal of unhinged recruit abused by his sergeant
Thank you for service, sir!
Y los soldados que mataban civiles y violaban niñas en Vietnam??
@@MrTech226 Ermey was in "The Boys From Company C." It is a much, much more realistic portrayal of boot camp.
Kubrick saw him in TBFCC and hired him right away.
Ermey was basically told to turn his previous performance up to 11. Into parody level.
What is weird is how later real life DIs mimicked this performance. Making life imitating art.
I also wonder how he got hold of live ammo. During training our live ammo was always kept separate and we didn't have access to either live rounds or weapons. I was in both desert in the Afghan and Desert Strom conflicts and did my training in the mid 90's.
@@2DogsVlogs Keep a round each time you go to the range, and lie when you say, "No brass, no ammo, Drill Sergeant" coming off the firing line.
I'm a Marine. In the 60s, there weren't any protections in place for those with mental handicaps as there are now. Think Forrest Gump. IQ of 75, supposedly. That movie, as well as this one, reflect that Vietnam, and the draft that came with it, did not disciminate. Those with autism or similiar conditions were just looked at as slow and stubborn learners who required more brute force than others to "get with the program" of war. Imagine the character of Leonard Lawrence as a high functioning autistic young man and this movie becomes much harder to watch. He went one way. Animal Mother went the other way. Both characters are off. I have never met a Marine that acted like either. Their attitudes would immediately have them sent to the wizard nowadays. It's sad that we learn these lessons one death at a time.
PROBABLY THE BEST MOVIE EVER MADE ! 😳
Beyond the acting, the score here is iconic
Gunney R. Lee Ermey was in fact a real Marine Drill Instructor. He was on set as an advisor. When the actor playing the DI couldn’t get it right, Gunney went to wardrobe and put on a uniform and came out in character, which was previously his actual job, and went full DI on everyone. Kubrick then made him the actor. Gunney’s boot camp scene was not scripted, it was all from experience. It was one of the few times Kubrick allowed an actor to do such.
This scene by itself could be a horror short film
In the book this is based off. DI Hartman is proud that Leonard shoots him as he finally becomes the killer he was training him to become
It so so funny how the youngsters are reacting to this. This movie was like an after school special to my generation. 😅
One of the greatest movies ever made
"Hiiii Joker"
Um......he is NOT okay.
What always amazes me about this scene is that he didn't shoot everyone in the barracks afterwards!
He only planned on killing himself. If Joker and Hartman hadn't found him, Hartman wouldn't have died either.
So this is what we’re doing now? Reacting to reactors reacting to stuff. Lol, props.
yup
Idk how I got sucked in 😅
@@seangotti3 I’ve seen other compilation videos but his is the first I seen to show himself reacting. Wish I would’ve thought of it first. Lol
I mean, is anyone really watching the guy in the top right corner? I'm just watching a compilation of reactors reacting to the same scene.
@@plumdutchess Somebody is. Lol
R. Lee Ermey was a real drill instructor
ain't no one ready for when pyle finally snaps
"Well, look what you did to him." Literally Kubrick's message to the military and to the U.S. government. Look at what you did to them.
Did anybody notice that drill Sergeant Hartman was still wearing his drill Sergeant hat when he came out at night to confront "Private Pyle
One of the best anti-war/anti-military movies.