timosha21: The DF only has 8 trolley bus lines, not even close to the City's 15 trolley bus routes. Wikipedia is in error. Every so often the City toys with the idea of electrifying one or two more diesel lines, but nothing has come of that.The last conversions were for the #24 and #31 lines.
sfmike711 And the 24 should have been electrified a lot earlier! Those of us old enough to remember having to get off the diesel bus so it could navigate those steep hills along Castro would surely attest.
Fantastic to see those modern "heavy haul" trolleys. Where are they made ?? Russia ??? Quite different from the modern ones in Europe ! But, bravo San Francisco, one of the rare cities from USA to run those type of buses , a big plus in a country whose president refuses ecology !
No the new trolleybuses are made by New Flyer Industries in the USA. There is a European element as the traction equipment is made by Kiepe Electric in Germany and they in turn subcontract the production of the traction motors to Skoda in the Czech republic.
Good to see that a lot of skodas are still in use. Sadly they will be removed and sraped...(most of them) Also i wonder: how people would react if they see skoda 9tr just pasing by :D (jk of corse)
ckildegaard Duboce and Church behind the Safeway. It's where the N Judah and J Church come out of the subway tunnel. The 22 Fillmore trolley bus crosses both at that stop.
Уважаемый Тимофей! Большое спасибо Вам за очень интересные видеозарисовки о транспорте! Мне очень нравится то, что Вы делаете! Есть только одна маленькая просьба: в этом видео о троллейбусах в Сан-Франциско Вы разместили своё лого прямо посередине картинки, что на многих кадрах, к сожалению, портит изображение... Может быть лучше помещать лого в углу кадра.
Thanks for uploading. Does anybody know how many Skoda ETI's are still operating in passenger service. I am visiting San Francisco in August and was hoping to grab a final ride before they go.
Yes ! Wires (up) bring electricity to the "motor" trough the trolley . Some new ones have also a small diesel engine in order to continue on special route in there in a problem on their regular route (accident, road works .. )
It will be sad to see the ETIs go. I wonder how the new trolleys (XT40s) performed on hill testing, because the XT60s had poor performance on grades steeper than 10%.
I agree about the ETIs. They are fun, traditional trolleybuses, but Muni says they are heavy maintenance these days. As far as I know the XT40s will have an induction motor rated around 250kW, about the same rating as the old style DC motors on the ETIs, so plenty powerful enough to climb those steep hills well. The point about the XT60s is they were never intended for the hill routes but for the flat routes like the 14 and the 30. They have exactly the same motor which is fine for the XT60 on flat routes. Same size? For standardisation!!!
Hello everybody my name is Michael Parham I want to know about the bus rapid transit and to see more how the buses can work on the ones in Miami Florida and to be on my precise is the new Transit rapid has to be a glorified and smooth ride and the pay your fare and everything else to get you anywhere you want to go or even use your transit pass or even use your trying to pass ticket but I want to see more about it
Here in Brazil we call those who like bus buses, and unlike other countries, we do not know anything about the buses of the United States, neither bodybuilder, nor company of chassis, nor the lines, you could give a hint of where we can find this informations ? my facebok is Eron Asuncion, I wait for the answer
Alan Fisher FPV my city Vilnius uses same skoda 14tr trolleybuses, which are louder then most buses. But important think is that they are clean and people do use them. And the vires: i acualy like how they hang over streets
joe stewart: The City has the largest fleet of trolley coaches in North America. They spew absolutely no pollution. They can easily climb the hilly streets that diesels labor, grunt, and groan to inch their way up. Often passengers must exit the diesel bus part-way up the hill and walk to the corner to re-board and continue their journey (and more-than-likely to repeat that on the next block!). I had to do that many years ago before the #55 line (diesel) was converted to the #1 (trolley). Sadly, in the name of "progress and being modern", the #55 line replaced the Sacramento-Clay cable car in the very early '40s. It was a very bad and poor decision because cable cars defy gravity and can go up any hill. The #24 (diesel) replaced the Castro cable car around the same time. Eventually that was also electrified. All those grips should have been kept. In addition to this, the City generates its own electricity from the hydro-electric plant at the Hetch-Hechy Reservoir, which also provides San Francisco with amazingly pure water. Because the City owns and operates this power system, the electricity is used to power the trolley coaches, the surface streetcars, Muni Metro (subway), the cable car motors in the car house, City Hall, the Hall of Justice, the Opera House, the Symphony Hall, General Hospital, and many other City buildings. In other words, the City doesn't get power from PG&E. The City pays no money for the electricity used to power transportation and major City buildings. Trolley wires are not really an "ugly ... web", considering what they do. What does your city boast?
joe stewart: Lots of hills. Batteries drain. Many coaches are out all day so recharging might be sketchy. So far this is the best solution. All current trolley coaches have batteries which allow them to move around any street closures, such as a large fire, an accident, fallen tree, street repair, etc. After getting around the closure and returning to the regular route, the driver raises the poles to continue as normal.
Thank you for sharing. I honestly thought that these type of buses disappeared in the early 70s when Chicago abandoned theirs.
I can’t remember a time not seeing them in SF lol weird
Este ônibus consegue subir ladeira?
Grew up riding these on the 6 Parnassus and 22 Fillmore.
*_•iiconicResVy•_* Cool. To "Top of the Hill,Daly City".
Great video, nice music 👍 thank you
I wish you a happy day 🌷
I have no word... Such a amazing
8:15 these are some weird looking buses lol
нет,это зрители перед монитором))
No, those are San Francisco natives complaining on the late arrival of the bus.
RaymondHng 😆😆😆😆
Yep they are 😂😆😂😆
timosha21: The DF only has 8 trolley bus lines, not even close to the City's 15 trolley bus routes. Wikipedia is in error. Every so often the City toys with the idea of electrifying one or two more diesel lines, but nothing has come of that.The last conversions were for the #24 and #31 lines.
sfmike711 And the 24 should have been electrified a lot earlier! Those of us old enough to remember having to get off the diesel bus so it could navigate those steep hills along Castro would surely attest.
Две параллельные линии троллейбусов! Неожиданно. Никогда не задумывался, что такое может быть. Ведь троллейбус - это наследник трамваев.
Fantastic to see those modern "heavy haul" trolleys. Where are they made ?? Russia ??? Quite different from the modern ones in Europe ! But, bravo San Francisco, one of the rare cities from USA to run those type of buses , a big plus in a country whose president refuses ecology !
No the new trolleybuses are made by New Flyer Industries in the USA. There is a European element as the traction equipment is made by Kiepe Electric in Germany and they in turn subcontract the production of the traction motors to Skoda in the Czech republic.
Bruno R Made in Czech Republic (Jagr, Havel, Navrátilová, Forman)
Good to see that a lot of skodas are still in use. Sadly they will be removed and sraped...(most of them)
Also i wonder: how people would react if they see skoda 9tr just pasing by :D (jk of corse)
At 11:20 what intersection is that? Looks like a great place to film the convergence of two SF transit modes.
ckildegaard Duboce and Church behind the Safeway. It's where the N Judah and J Church come out of the subway tunnel. The 22 Fillmore trolley bus crosses both at that stop.
Bravo.
Уважаемый Тимофей! Большое спасибо Вам за очень интересные видеозарисовки о транспорте! Мне очень нравится то, что Вы делаете! Есть только одна маленькая просьба: в этом видео о троллейбусах в Сан-Франциско Вы разместили своё лого прямо посередине картинки, что на многих кадрах, к сожалению, портит изображение... Может быть лучше помещать лого в углу кадра.
Я экспериментировал и мне тоже не понравилось этот способ. Будущее видео будут опять помещать лого в углу.
timosha21 А может быть и этот файл переделаете? Уж очень-очень хорошая зарисовка получилась - и так жаль, что лого портит картинку... Спасибо! :)
It is cool that this video has sea lions.
Thanks for uploading. Does anybody know how many Skoda ETI's are still operating in passenger service. I am visiting San Francisco in August and was hoping to grab a final ride before they go.
Steve Burns as of 2019, sfmta phased out the eti’s in favor for the new flyers
And how do the people of San Francisco relate to the numerous fastenings, mechanisms and other special parts of the contact wires?
Those ETIs are the best 😁😎
I feel the MARMON's were the best ever! Still, the ETI's are better than diesels,etc!
all of the old buses are gone i used to ride them with my grandma and cousins to bart in downtown.
0:24 is not the bridge wich appears in the movie Heart and Souls from 1993?
That is the Stockton Street tunnel.
Are they electric busses?
Yes ! Wires (up) bring electricity to the "motor" trough the trolley . Some new ones have also a small diesel engine in order to continue on special route in there in a problem on their regular route (accident, road works .. )
2:50 Тимофей,а там всегда так серо?смотришь на улицу и зябко становится.
они шутят: у нас погода или туман или солнечно . и все!
It will be sad to see the ETIs go. I wonder how the new trolleys (XT40s) performed on hill testing, because the XT60s had poor performance on grades steeper than 10%.
I agree about the ETIs. They are fun, traditional trolleybuses, but Muni says they are heavy maintenance these days. As far as I know the XT40s will have an induction motor rated around 250kW, about the same rating as the old style DC motors on the ETIs, so plenty powerful enough to climb those steep hills well. The point about the XT60s is they were never intended for the hill routes but for the flat routes like the 14 and the 30. They have exactly the same motor which is fine for the XT60 on flat routes. Same size? For standardisation!!!
Можно писать названия троллейбусов? Кто их производит? Где производят?
Hello everybody my name is Michael Parham I want to know about the bus rapid transit and to see more how the buses can work on the ones in Miami Florida and to be on my precise is the new Transit rapid has to be a glorified and smooth ride and the pay your fare and everything else to get you anywhere you want to go or even use your transit pass or even use your trying to pass ticket but I want to see more about it
Here in Brazil we call those who like bus buses, and unlike other countries, we do not know anything about the buses of the United States, neither bodybuilder, nor company of chassis, nor the lines, you could give a hint of where we can find this informations ? my facebok is Eron Asuncion, I wait for the answer
skoda 15trsf, skoda 14trsf
Are sunet de Astra Agora
Is someone speaking Russian?
И никаких маршруток которые у нас караваном ездят
ten trolejbus je z České Republiky Ostrová nad Ohří 14TR ŠKODA
А у нас в Нижнем Новгороде как-то так ... ((
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What an ugly sight having to look at that web of electric wires strung above the streets?
I'd rather have those than hearing diesel engines rev up constantly.
Alan Fisher FPV my city Vilnius uses same skoda 14tr trolleybuses, which are louder then most buses. But important think is that they are clean and people do use them.
And the vires: i acualy like how they hang over streets
joe stewart: The City has the largest fleet of trolley coaches in North America. They spew absolutely no pollution. They can easily climb the hilly streets that diesels labor, grunt, and groan to inch their way up. Often passengers must exit the diesel bus part-way up the hill and walk to the corner to re-board and continue their journey (and more-than-likely to repeat that on the next block!). I had to do that many years ago before the #55 line (diesel) was converted to the #1 (trolley). Sadly, in the name of "progress and being modern", the #55 line replaced the Sacramento-Clay cable car in the very early '40s. It was a very bad and poor decision because cable cars defy gravity and can go up any hill. The #24 (diesel) replaced the Castro cable car around the same time. Eventually that was also electrified. All those grips should have been kept.
In addition to this, the City generates its own electricity from the hydro-electric plant at the Hetch-Hechy Reservoir, which also provides San Francisco with amazingly pure water. Because the City owns and operates this power system, the electricity is used to power the trolley coaches, the surface streetcars, Muni Metro (subway), the cable car motors in the car house, City Hall, the Hall of Justice, the Opera House, the Symphony Hall, General Hospital, and many other City buildings. In other words, the City doesn't get power from PG&E. The City pays no money for the electricity used to power transportation and major City buildings.
Trolley wires are not really an "ugly ... web", considering what they do. What does your city boast?
Look at all these touchy touchy people. Put batteries in these things and lose the overhead wires. The overhead wires are ugly and dangerous.
joe stewart: Lots of hills. Batteries drain. Many coaches are out all day so recharging might be sketchy. So far this is the best solution. All current trolley coaches have batteries which allow them to move around any street closures, such as a large fire, an accident, fallen tree, street repair, etc. After getting around the closure and returning to the regular route, the driver raises the poles to continue as normal.