If anyone's wondering why I changed the Your-Show-Sucks! graphic, it was originally intended to be two (very) sarcastic thumbs up, but I feel like people didn't really get the joke.
Completely unrelated, Thorias, but on the subject of Arrow, I’d give it a second chance if you’re not busy with anything else. Season 3 isn’t great (tho I think it’s underrated) and Season 4 for the most part IS as bad as they say, but I think you’d find Season 5 to be a lot more satisfying than anything else in the Arrowverse. (Superman & Lois and Stargirl have been decent but yknow)
Yo Thorias. I think you forgot the "plot point" about the fuck'n bat cave being connected to the power grid & everything shutting down...even though they have a backup generator.
Speaking of changing. I understand if the brown/gray? shirt is a metaphor for how you feel about the show but given your somber demeanor and dry wit something lively like an hawaiian shirt or any overstated 'happy' shirt would add a very subtle and comedic but effective element to your show! Love your channel absolutely its just I was a fashion consultant in another life and couldn't resist the suggestion. Please forgive the presumptuous nature of my post!
TBH, the grey shirt is mostly just because it's a neutral color that makes the chroma key easy to adjust. I just do two quick tweaks and it's good to go, so I don't have to waste time messing with it. I spend enough time editing as it is, so I'm down for anything that speeds the process up.
@Shadow H No. you're right, it was established that they had independent generators is some previse episode. but I didn't know that was in the comics as well.
I feel sorry for Jacob, he tries to help his daughters but he gets ragged on throughout the show, ended up gets arrested for all of Alice's murderous crimes, never shows up in the finale and Kate never mentions him. Wouldn't the season 2 ended better with both Kate and Jacob leaving Gotham to search for Bruce together? Wouldn't that be a better way to write the characters out of the show? But no, the writers wanted the rainbow relation and they can't have a white man be in the way.
Rachel is far to good for this shit show. The material she had to work with was adhorrent and she still somehow managed to put in a solid effort. I really hope she gets better job offers in the future.
You know those old TV shows like the Twilight Zone where someone eventually realizes that they’re in Hell? It is apparent to me that Luke never survived that near death experience. We thought he did, but his desire to die was accepted, and now he is in Hell, which is why he appears still on the show. At first, I was trying to realize what Luke had done to deserve being in Hell. Then I remembered him unleashing not one but two Batwomen upon Gotham City.
i kept expecting Tom Elliis Lucifer to show up and say to Luke don't worry i'll take you onto a much better show mine. Like seriously My Show is doing Game of thrones level Views right now and is literally laughing at all the pathetic CW shows.
I've never watched the show, I just watch Thorias's videos about it. He is willing to sacrifice his mental health for our entertainment. So the least I can do is watch his videos.
I mean 2x12 might have been retconned for all we know. The writers are retconning so much stuff lately, it's pretty much impossible to know what's still in continuity and what isn't.
And there lies the biggest consequence of having the Batsuit be completely indestructible and all powerful, it’s a crutch for bad characters. I’m honestly surprised Bruce ever made it, because he wouldn’t have ever needed a suit like that. Sure the suit hides his identity, provides some protection, and with the belt he has all his gadgets, but batmans greatest strengths are his intellect and fighting skills, (and his bank account I guess.) something Bruce Wayne still has, suit or not. This all powerful batsuit is just a lazy mechanism for characters who can’t do anything on their own to never have to learn to do anything on their own. In the words of the 2nd coolest billionaire super hero: “If you’re nothing without the suit, then you shouldn’t have it.”
Good news: Batwoman season 2 is finally, FINALLY over. Bad news: Batwoman season 3 is coming in October. ... That's not enough time to decompress. Lord help us.
@@isplat927 first season had around 800-600k viewrs (moustly from crissis on infinity earths crossover) and secound season has 450-390k viewers. I think the third will have 300-100k
What's more hilarious is that they just copied the climax of the dark knight rises without trying to put the effort in. I hate that version of bane but I would definitely chose him over mr padded suit any day lol
3:30 Mary’s to-do list: 1) find Circe= Alice did it 2) get Kate back= Alice did it 3) defeat black mask= Alice did it 4) stop people from overthrowing Gotham= by defeating Black Mask, Alice did it Result of this finale: the protagonists (outside of Mary to a lesser extent) didn’t do Jack to save the city…..ALICE DID. And BTW, the Kate Kane story ends with Kate leaving Gotham……to search for Bruce…….WEARING THE ASSMASK OF BLACK MASK'S DAUGHTER. 😂😂😂 you can’t make this Sh*t up.
@@veeclash4157: maybe because the bodycount from this murderous psycho... If they were competent enough Alice shouldn't be an option to resolve the problems at hand.
Batwoman: repeated offender criminal Ryan Wilder, (a woman with a man's name) is set free merely hours after being rightfully arrested and anointed as the city's hero after doing absolutely nothing heroic. Star Trek Discovery: unqualified officer and mutineer Michael Burnham (a woman with a man's name) responsible for a galactic war, is vindicated of all wrongs and hailed as galactic savior after doing nothing to end the war. Star Trek Picard: galactic-scale genocidal fembot Soli is absolved of all blame for changing her mind at the last minute despite almost starting a galactic war in the process, while two murdering women also go unpunished and hailed as heroes for killing people. DIsney's Star Wars sequels: uneducated scrap scavenger desert girl Rey (sounding just like the male name Ray) shows unheard-of powers and, without training, defeat the mightiest threat to an entire galaxy, ending up stealing ship, robot and even the name and legacy of previous heroes while actually being the villain's blood heiress. I sense a trend here...
Well, in Discovery Michael was only released because an evil version of Lorca let her out. After that she was involved in a few things that could have got her some forgiveness given how willing to forget old grudges the Federation is.
Which was utter nonsense. Since when a mere starship captain would have that authority? On what grounds? And for a mutineer, the worst possible crime in any military organization? And one that is openly violent, unrepenting, unqualified (never went to the Academy) and with no special skill whatosever to even consider her being singled out like this? And to be sent to roam free on the most secret, sensitive asset of all of Starfleet? In a time of war? That could only happen in a corrupt incompetent organization run by morons. I know, that's what Kurtzmantrek's UFP and Starfleet are. proves the nonsense. And you describe the UFP like it is Sunday school. Even with it's benevolence and enlightenment, the UFP does not simply ''forgive'' dangerous criminals. It rehabilitates them through years of social work before returning them to society; to return them to active duty is even more demanding. That's what penal colonies are for, not ''big Brother'' sponsorship, certainly not from the commanding officer of THE most secret and sensitive war asset in wartime. A war SHE was responsible for to boot. I know, Tom Paris. But Paris had been serving term already for a while, showing good behavior, and admitted his guilt; and it was only for insubordination. He was released only for a short criminal-hunting mission, under constant surveillance, only as an observer, and only because of his established competence, special skills and relevant knowledge and specific experience; and that aboard a regular commissionned vessel in peace time. The Federation can show leniency in the best of times, maybe, but not sheer stupidity in the worst of times.
Devil May Cry: a self insert OC redeems his genocidal father after telling him to stop being such a meanie meanie poop head to his brother Garbage narratives ain't exclusive to shows and movies, y'know
@@Spmnls Oh Bane was plenty big to begin with, I mean he broke Bruce's back without Venom hopping him up, but he does indeed get larger when he starts dosing on Venom.
@@Spmnls And it's not even a good rendition of that, he looks more like a reject from Hans and Franz's gym (the old skit on SNL back when it wasn't so woke). These writers are so lazy it's mind-boggling that they were actually employed, and clearly not on merits.
Also, how does one shot of venom make you as strong as bane for more than a few minutes? Don’t you need a constant supply of the stuff to keep its effect which is why bane has to wear that massive rig on his back with all the tubes?
The true tragedy is that we’ve lost Jacob after this season, granted I’m happy for Scott to get out of dodge while he could but he was the only character who was “normal” by the Batwoman universe standards.
1. Wikipedia 2. Copy name and short description. 3. Paste name and short description into script. 4. do whatever you like. 5. (Profit) How modern day comic book shows are made.
Trans chinese girl becomes batwoman, kate kane shows up for like 2 episodes-the third season. Also how insane do you have to be to not get rid of Ryan Wilder though she is such a horrible character times 1000x at kate's worst or anyone's worst for that manner.
I tapped out the second luke was going over the surveillance footage and Ryan said let me see. I literally counted down when she would find a mcguffin that Luke the "brains" of the operation couldn't see. The second she said the literal studio number I bailed faster than if I was in the titanic, my odds of survival on that wreck would have been better.
The Dark Knight Rises is probably the closest we've gotten to an accurate live action Bane so far. Bane isn't some rage monster he's tactical and knows how to break his opponents physically and mentally.
They're bringing in Ivy because she's Bi despite showing Penguin and, surprisingly, Mad Hatter which would make sense for Alice. You know the whole wonderland thing
5:05 In the comics after he was beaten by Azrael at the end of Knightfall Bane stopped using Venom and built himself back up the old fashioned way. Unfortunately some adaptations make him so addicted to it that all it really takes to beat him is to cut the tube.
He couldn't simply want to help, a la Steel, or most any other hero, in the universe. Simply wanting to do right, because it is just that. It had to be about ego and identity.
Holy shit this show has been awful. I miss the days when shit shows would get canceled as soon as possible but today? Nah it'll be fine, just let the shit run.
It serves a purpose. If they cancelled Batwaman, they would need to make Superman's boys gay, make Lois scissor Lana and have Clark cry a lot as he talks about his feelings.
no. bane never experienced roid rage. even when batman took venom, it never gave him that effect, he only suffered from addiction that drove him nuts. that's also a good comic by the way, batman: venom.
@@timberry4709 well yeah, but that’s objectively the worst incarnation of the character. Though come to think of it if you combine the Batman and Robin version of Bane with the Dark Knight Rises version of him you get close to a comic accurate Bane.
My Comment from Previous Batwoman review: “Next week, we finally get Batwing, but knowing the track record of this show, they’ll probably botch it up”. Current Batwoman Review: “Called it”
Most people who use Venom suffer from roid rage, Bane doesn't, because of his focus and intelligence, he is still dependent on the thing though, but there was a storyline where he overcame his addiction, Bane is always portrayed as a brute in other media though, when , in reality, he is a dangerous mix of brains and brawn
This was hilariously rushed, a competent show would have had Roman get the things necessary to his plans like maybe buying the electrical company, foreshadow his plans for Gotham and have the heroes find out the plans and prepare for his plans before getting screwed over with Kate and having to improvise? Also, how come Menace wasn't a lieutenant for Black Mask instead basically acting like a baby and trying to find his comforter, wouldn't it be better if Luke, finding an old Batsuit and retrofitting it for himself and giving it back power then Luke and Ryan work together by splitting up so Ryan goes to find Black Mask and Circe while Luke goes to take down Menace and take away some of Black Mask's power? Like a team? But nope! Menace is taken down easily, Black Mask is taken down easily and Circe was somewhat taken down easily.
To be honest I would of not bothered with the Pirates stuff and solo had a new version of Black Mask be the main threat of the season Roman Sions Jr and Circe Sions be the twin of children of the original Black Mask stopped by Batman Throughout the season each twin takes turns as Black Mask to throw off Batwoman to restore their father's legacy as a major Crime boss of Gotham. But then Half through the season at the mid season either have Roman or Circe is killed by the police or the Crows and have the remaining siblings set out to burn gotham to the ground for the Police or Crows killing Roman or Circe Batwoman has stop them the season ends with either Roman or Circe becoming the New Black Mask and have Kate witness them Kill Jacob being powerless to stop it.
Another cool idea would have been if, in addition to the Bane machine, Sionis had picked henchmen to use each of the other stolen villain hardware. One gets Mad Hatter's hat and uses its technology to mind- control citizens into either rioting in general or attacking the good guys, another gets Penguin's weaponized umbrella and uses it to fight Ryan and Alice, and so on. But, nope, they just flushed all that potential right down the crapper, as usual.
Well Roman's plan from the beginning was incredibly dumb. He was essentially throwing a revolt against himself. I mean he controlled the police to the point they could just execute Ryan's social worker in the middle of the police station. Why would he want to dismantle a system he himself controls? And as far as swooping in as the hero by having Sionis kill Black Mask, all those ex-crows were hired by Sionis, who then put on the Black Mask, so they know they're one in the same.
@@Adamguy2003 So good ideas here. Maybe they should actually read comics and take something from there instead of just making no effort. It sucks for actually talented writers out there who never get published or get to work on a show or movie and these hacks are actually paid to come up with this bullshit.
@@adamandanna Yeah, that is frustrating. I'm part of a group called the Facebook Midnight Society (Named after the group from the old show 'Are You Afraid of the Dark?'), with a scary story recorded and submitted by a group member each week, and most of the stories from that are better- written and more entertaining than any 'Batwoman' script. Even when social commentary is at times inserted into some of the stories, it's rare and is handled in much more subtle and effective way than 'Batwoman' tries to do so, because we know that, as far as creating likable stories goes, aiing them entertaining should be a MUCH higher priority than pushing a message.
Can't remember precisely how Venom works, if comics Bane was using a different formula or not, but short term it does make you go full 'roid rage. I think Bane built up a tolerance, but even he eventually detoxed and got clean from it. That being said, the idea of the guy not being actually dead in this episode isn't a retcon of death, it's more like "mob doctors are mob doctors because they are not good doctors". Coma state is indistinguishable from death for non-professionals.
@@isplat927 fair, though I stand by my original point. It's not a death recon per se, the MacGuffin Flower is a straight up death recon. This is just basic authorial fuckery, and normally is allowable. Allowable, that is, in service to a good or at least entertaining story.
Honestly, the fact that this show wasted a character like Batwing and made his whole reason for existing to be be an agenda imposed token hero is no surprise. Good riddance, Batwoman Season 2, you won't be missed. And God bless you, Thorias, for suffering in our place.
I can’t wait for the “writers” to give us some ridiculous plot twist about Ryan’s mom in season three, like a reveal that her mom is Luke’s mom and that she gave away Ryan as a baby cause she didn’t think she was capable of taking care of a child before she met Lucius, and then we end up with unnecessary drama between Ryan and Luke cause he got the childhood that she was denied.
what the hell are you doing don't you know that the Batwoman writers watch these reviews and read comments stop giving them ideas. (puts duck tape over mouth) Shut yer trap.
@@michaelkean5969 lmao I’m just calling it cause I’m a writer myself and I watch this dumpster fire to show myself what not to do with Batman related stories.
@@taun856 honestly I think that’ll be Ryan’s love interest for season three, cause after Angelique Martin, Ryan has to up her criminal love game to rogues gallery level next.
@@cameronclophus7998 yeah apparently some SJW make comparison with their show they support and Static as a cartoon show. And they think SJW does it better than Dwayne Mcduffie. Also someone reboot the static comic but it was horendous, which butchered his legacy. RIP Dwayne Mcduffie.
Congrats Thorias. You made it threw season 2 and you still have all your hair. Truly an impressive feat. Season 1 must have been worse or you are now truely dead inside.
This show is written by a bunch of 5th graders given a writing assignment to create a Batwoman story. The plot advances like those stories. Things just happen......because.
I am surprised. Luke was allowed to win on his own, without needing to be saved by a woman! Sure it sucked as bad as it can while still existing, but it was still his own victory... which is something I guess...
He exploited a loophole is the show's rules. If he had been fighting a woman, he would have had no chance. But if the fight is between two men and one of them has to win, the advantage would typically go to whichever character is more woke. Luke is black, Tavaroff is white, so weirdly enough, this was a fight Luke almost couldn't lose.
@@cameronclophus7998 bat credit card....... batman/Bruce Wayne is rich. Bruce creates and utilized ghost or shell companies to help build his bat gear...... what is so rage-intusion about a bat credit card.. ?...... go into the corner for punishment.
Salute to you for surviving another season! 👏🏾 And thru all of these episodes of shitting on Jacob, mentioning Ryan's step mom and real mom...do they ever, like even for a second mention her dad? Because she's black he just isn't a thing? Kinda racist
Like real life, Thorias, the rioting didn't stop: the news just stopped reporting on it. Not only did it not stop in several cities, there are still occupied zones.
Yeah and this isn’t even new starting last year. There have been areas in inner cities where police refuse to go for years. Only that was due to apolitical violent criminality instead of Marxist militant occupation. In chicago, we have open air drug markets right off the expressway. People sell drugs openly like a flea market. Police don’t go there because they will be shot on sight.
Batsuit storage- Batman 1989: 3 in thick steel safe Batman Returns 1994: 3 inch thick Steel Vault with a drawbridge. Batwoman 2021: Out in the open on a black mannequin Batwing 2021: Under a white sheet in the corner of the storage room. They are the ones riding this not me....
@@johannesseyfried7933 True but first off it wouldn't be pushing their narrative and second since when does this show care about how their lines sounded?
I feel like the only good adaptation of Black Mask was in the animated Under the Red Hood film. The Birds of Prey version of him sucked, the Batwoman version of him does, he should have been the main villain of Batman Arkham Origins but instead Joker who shouldn't even have been in it was.
Imagine what this show could've been with Wallis Day as Kate Kane and some actual decent writing. I keep wondering who the audience is for this show, because the numbers seem to be dropping in volumes week by week. And why is it getting a third season if it's continually doing so poorly? Isn't it losing the CW money?
There's no discernible difference between heroes and villains on Batwoman. Everyone is narcissistic, and nobody does anything for any reason beyond accolades and adulation.
Bro..You're a hero for putting up with, not one, but TWO whole seasons of that show..Because of you, i only had to endure the first 4 episodes of season one..Thanks for taking yet ANOTHER ONE for the team!
11:35 to be fair luke not being able to fully control his new suit is good character writing. It's just that we all know that if he was female there would have been no issue
Batwoman needs a new team of writers, and a few retcons. Not just lazy retcons, retcons with a purpose. Changes: Kate finds out her face isn’t actually changed, it was her all along but simply told that to go along with the brainwashing, to demoralize her and make it less likely she’d break it. New things: Bludhaven is introduced, Nightwing along with it, and he teaches Ryan important lessons in being a vigilante as she realizes that she has been over her head the whole time but desires to continue crime fighting. Dick has a heart to heart with Luke about Bruce, and what it means taking up being a protector of Gotham as Batwing, this helps Ryan and Luke to grow closer and experience their own parallel growth throughout the new season. Also, Dick explains Bruce’s absence, Kate returns with an epiphany that she needs to play an active role in helping Beth return, since they have been apart emotionally this entire time. At the end of the season, Kate and Beth, along with Kate’s step-sister leave the show for good. Ah, but who needs character growth when you got STRONG POWERFUL WAHMEN!!
Funny though because I swore in Season 1 they ripped into Bruce Wayne for at least 3 episodes for "abandoning " Gotham . And low and behold they write of Kate in the exact same manner. But by actually abandoning the city :)
Batwing didn't do shit in this episode and he won't do shit in season 3 either. He's going to be put on a corner because the writers aren't going to let a straight black man take the spotlight from the black bisexual Batwahman. I want this show to die and never be brought back. Just let it die. The only good thing that came from this season is Dougray Scott finally leaving the show poor guy must have gotten insane from working on this dumpster fire.
Next time on Batwoman season 3, Ryan virtue signals to some random guy about how evil he is for being white and straight, Luke tries to save people but slips on a banana peel and falls down a flight of stairs into a pie, Mary doesn't report a mass murderer she treats and he kills all her patients but she acts all high and mighty to the authorities, Jacob dies from a quick hit on the head and nobody goes to his funeral, Mary's mom Kathryn is revealed to have been involved with human trafficking, Sophie while working a case doesn't where gloves and puts her fingerprints on everything, Poison Ivy turns out to be a victim of an evil homophobe who she kills and gets away with it because gay, and Kate finds Bruce in a cell, acts smug and arrogant towards him and kills him with on punch before embarrassing him.
If only Ryan had trained, she won't have needed a meat shield to fight Circe. So how does Alice know about Ryan's biological mother is alive, but her adopted mother didn't? My expectations for Batwing were low, but wow. The writers gave him 5 seconds of screen time. He didn't ever get to design his own suit.
She'll find bruce, he'll tell her she was better than he ever was and that it's her legacy now. He'll then offer his new girlfriend to her as a reward and give them a full service wedding. She's gonna be married to catwoman...calling it now.
That was not how Black Mask is forced to wear his mask 24/7, his face was burned while he was wearing the mask and is now marked with an identation of the mask
So in the end season 2 of Batwoman has ripped off from these franchises -Fast and Furious -Breaking Bad -The Walking Dead -Now, V For Vendetta This show is pure dogshit and Do-Gray Scott is not coming back in the third season(he is most likely going to go to his favorite dive bar and drinking himself to the point of puking and shitting himself and ranting about his career was ruined after he lost the role of Logan in X-Men).
Nah man, I'll do you one better. What if she's the illegitimate daughter of Batman and Catwoman. In this way we can tarnish Bruce's reputation way more than Kate ever did while proping up Ryan by giving her full control of Wayne Enterprises and officially part of Bruce's bloodline.
I expect nothing. Honestly they're is no way they could fix or save this nightmare storm of a show. It's just insanely stupid, just cancel it already and save some face...
Jacob (who always tried to do the right thing) - jail. Rest-of-Cast (who always did the selfish, self-absorbed thing) - freedom, murder, free-pass on theft and drug issues. The writer's 6 year old son is tired of supplying plot ideas.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Alice is a real comic character but her origin is different. Kate, Elizabeth and their mother were driving to a place to celebrate the twin's birthday but suddenly they were hit by a truck, then they were kidnapped by masked men. When Jacob finally found them he found the dead body of his wife, a dead body of a unidentified little girl who he believed was Beth and a still alive Kate. Years later Alice popped up leading the Religion of Crime in Gotham and Batwoman's had to fight her. It was only later she discovered Alice was Beth and it was because Alice said that Kate has their father's eyes.
So the hook for next season is the search for Ryan's birth mom which they expect us to care about when they never focused or her step mom, you know the one who's death "inspired" her to be a hero. Aside from the first episode and the one where she hallucinates she's barley even mentioned we don't even get a proper flash back of them bonding. Compare this to the first seasons of Flash & Blacklightning, they show us thru conversation and flashback how their parents affected their lives and how the trauma of losing them haunted them and inspired them. But no instead the brainless idiots we writers decided all of our hero's backstory revolves around her Ex and the fact that she is bitter about being arrested for a crime she actually committed. Thou its no surprised her father isn't mentioned, an SJW show about female empowerment has no need for good fathers
I forgot that in that "speech" of hers, that the mother was supposedly dead. Somehow I think her mother will turn out to be Renee Montoya to tie in the more well know Batwoman to this series.
@@patrickmcguire7896 I want to be wrong about it as well, but given how the witers have done with other Batman/Batwoman characters, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Come to find out, I was half right. Batwoman IS introducing Renee Montoya new season, but they will have someone else be Ryan's Birth mother. Someone named Jada Jet with a deranged son named Marquis. The writers might make him one of the big bads of the season.
@@Nabinut Of course the brother is the bad guy and I bet they make the mother sympathetic and redeemable. Well maybe since these are original villains the show will actually care to develop them and their plans Or maybe they'll just be as scattered brained and incompetent as all the rest of $hit shows villains
I kinda want Thorias to do vids on the other shows but only season reviews, I don't think he'll have to willpower to sit through all the episodes except for maybe Black Lightning and S&L.
@@generationclash5004 I can see poison ivy controlling Alice and Alice puts a white face on Jacob's face and harley puts a microchip with joker's memory on Jacob's neck and then Jacob becomes resurrected joker
When Mary left her illegal clinic to think about the Snakebite, did she ever consider her "team" was left alone to be killed by Tavaroff? Thank goodness this season is over!
I think the best way to describe bane's powers is that the oxygen is his blood that would normally go to the brain, is being force into his rapidly growing muscles making him dizzy and confused, but in reality he would have died in seconds for organ failure, unless you are super organ-man.
They could have at least have Bruce Wayne finally get ahold of Luke and tells him he needs help protecting Gotham from Criminals and he needs to step up to Help Batwoman and lets him know he left the Suit in the Cave or something. That almost connects with the Comic. But nope… Now if he gets his own Series maybe by the end of Batwoman Season 3 because yeah there’s another. Then his Backstory will have no meaning going into the Show!… But also I’m hoping if Batwing does get his own Series its by the Superman & Lois crew!
I think the most intresting thing this whole season is how every new character from season 2 except Ryan has either been stuffed in the fridge or killed. It's like they're afraid all of them were going to pull a Ruby Rose and quit so they put easily explainable ways for them to come back in case they decided to stay.
If I was writing the show, I would have had Jacob mortally wounded by one of the criminals Mary saved in her clinic but didn’t report. When he died Mary would confess to running an illegal clinic out of guilt.
You'd think she'd have learned her error after criminals killed her mother, but no, she just goes back to what she'd always done, guilt is not in her makeup.
Hail Thorias! Thank you for your entertaining reviews and I am sorry you had to suffer the awfulness that was Batwoman season 2. I can't believe season 3 is a going to be a thing... I wonder what happens when the Chaos spawn (sorry for the 40k reference) directing Batwehmen will do once the show's ratings reach 0. I m starting to think that the awfulness regarding Batwehmen is a convoluted scheme devised by the Chaos God master planner Tzeentch... This show is heresy at it's finest and I am terrified if they bring in Bruce to ruin his legacy even more next season... Take care Thorias and I hope you recover well from this nightmare.
If anyone's wondering why I changed the Your-Show-Sucks! graphic, it was originally intended to be two (very) sarcastic thumbs up, but I feel like people didn't really get the joke.
Completely unrelated, Thorias, but on the subject of Arrow, I’d give it a second chance if you’re not busy with anything else. Season 3 isn’t great (tho I think it’s underrated) and Season 4 for the most part IS as bad as they say, but I think you’d find Season 5 to be a lot more satisfying than anything else in the Arrowverse. (Superman & Lois and Stargirl have been decent but yknow)
Yo Thorias. I think you forgot the "plot point" about the fuck'n bat cave being connected to the power grid & everything shutting down...even though they have a backup generator.
Speaking of changing. I understand if the brown/gray? shirt is a metaphor for how you feel about the show but given your somber demeanor and dry wit something lively like an hawaiian shirt or any overstated 'happy' shirt would add a very subtle and comedic but effective element to your show!
Love your channel absolutely its just I was a fashion consultant in another life and couldn't resist the suggestion. Please forgive the presumptuous nature of my post!
TBH, the grey shirt is mostly just because it's a neutral color that makes the chroma key easy to adjust. I just do two quick tweaks and it's good to go, so I don't have to waste time messing with it. I spend enough time editing as it is, so I'm down for anything that speeds the process up.
@Shadow H No. you're right, it was established that they had independent generators is some previse episode. but I didn't know that was in the comics as well.
I feel sorry for Jacob, he tries to help his daughters but he gets ragged on throughout the show, ended up gets arrested for all of Alice's murderous crimes, never shows up in the finale and Kate never mentions him.
Wouldn't the season 2 ended better with both Kate and Jacob leaving Gotham to search for Bruce together? Wouldn't that be a better way to write the characters out of the show? But no, the writers wanted the rainbow relation and they can't have a white man be in the way.
Kate does mention him but only as "My Dad" it’s when she's talking to Sophie at the end, only one line and quick.
o heard cuz it was the perfect end to the crows and the message of police brutality -paraphrased words form the director
No White any body. All the White characters have been written out. It's just the CRTs and Mary left.
At this point it's just decriminalization.
I think the actor quit before the finale
"I'm sorry Rachel, but your efforts are wasted here." - Pretty much sums up this entire series.
Ya right on the nail i hope she gets a better show she could do well with good writers
Rachel is far to good for this shit show. The material she had to work with was adhorrent and she still somehow managed to put in a solid effort.
I really hope she gets better job offers in the future.
“I wasn’t expecting much, and I’m still disappointed!”
-Dewey, Malcolm in the Middle
Expected nothing. Got much less. Nothing was lost or gained.
Time was waisted unfortunately.
I recently play god of war , boy keep your expectation low
Sanity, sanity points were lost..
@@kungfuhusler I was just about to say that lol
You know those old TV shows like the Twilight Zone where someone eventually realizes that they’re in Hell?
It is apparent to me that Luke never survived that near death experience. We thought he did, but his desire to die was accepted, and now he is in Hell, which is why he appears still on the show.
At first, I was trying to realize what Luke had done to deserve being in Hell. Then I remembered him unleashing not one but two Batwomen upon Gotham City.
I assume that's what happened to our friend Thorias here. He died at some point and now his eternal hell is to watch crap like this and review it.
@@evildoughboy7773 Thorias did nothing to deserve this Hell. He suffers for the sins of the writers.
He went to hell. Problem is that he was already in Batwoman, so nothing changed.
i kept expecting Tom Elliis Lucifer to show up and say to Luke
don't worry i'll take you onto a much better show mine. Like seriously My Show is doing Game of thrones level Views right now and is literally laughing at all the pathetic CW shows.
Maybe it's us that are in hell for having to put up with these shows.
I will say it again. I don’t find Batwoman entertaining! I only watch these reviews because I find YOU entertaining! Thank you for doing what you do!
I've never watched the show, I just watch Thorias's videos about it. He is willing to sacrifice his mental health for our entertainment. So the least I can do is watch his videos.
Exactly
You're one of the good ones.
@@thoriasunlimited4053 Your batwoman reviews makes my Wednesday mornings!
@@swslwatts Same here his batwoman review is always the first video I watch on Wednesday out of the people I am subscribed to.
Ryan: without the suit, I can’t beat Circe.
Ryan…..remember episode 12? You couldn’t beat Circe with it on, AND with Alice helping you.🤦🏿 🤦♂️🤦🏿
I mean 2x12 might have been retconned for all we know. The writers are retconning so much stuff lately, it's pretty much impossible to know what's still in continuity and what isn't.
And there lies the biggest consequence of having the Batsuit be completely indestructible and all powerful, it’s a crutch for bad characters.
I’m honestly surprised Bruce ever made it, because he wouldn’t have ever needed a suit like that. Sure the suit hides his identity, provides some protection, and with the belt he has all his gadgets, but batmans greatest strengths are his intellect and fighting skills, (and his bank account I guess.) something Bruce Wayne still has, suit or not.
This all powerful batsuit is just a lazy mechanism for characters who can’t do anything on their own to never have to learn to do anything on their own.
In the words of the 2nd coolest billionaire super hero: “If you’re nothing without the suit, then you shouldn’t have it.”
@@ghostrangerz8273 truer words are never spoken, Ghostrangerz.
Who was it now again that said something like "if you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it"?
@@carljohan9265 was it ironman? I forgot.
Good news: Batwoman season 2 is finally, FINALLY over.
Bad news: Batwoman season 3 is coming in October.
...
That's not enough time to decompress. Lord help us.
And September:
Batwoman renewed for S4 before new season begins
@@vecnahenrycreel1300 It'll be renewed for a 5th season in the middle of Season 3's first episode.
It's quite fitting if you think about it since October is the season of horror
@@isplat927 first season had around 800-600k viewrs (moustly from crissis on infinity earths crossover) and secound season has 450-390k viewers. I think the third will have 300-100k
@@isplat927 And by Episode 3 it'll be renewed for a 6th.
"His goal is, literally, to just become popular-"
Yet more evidence that the writers of this show are villains...
What's more hilarious is that they just copied the climax of the dark knight rises without trying to put the effort in. I hate that version of bane but I would definitely chose him over mr padded suit any day lol
3:30 Mary’s to-do list:
1) find Circe= Alice did it
2) get Kate back= Alice did it
3) defeat black mask= Alice did it
4) stop people from overthrowing Gotham= by defeating Black Mask, Alice did it
Result of this finale: the protagonists (outside of Mary to a lesser extent) didn’t do Jack to save the city…..ALICE DID.
And BTW, the Kate Kane story ends with Kate leaving Gotham……to search for Bruce…….WEARING THE ASSMASK OF BLACK MASK'S DAUGHTER. 😂😂😂 you can’t make this Sh*t up.
Funny thing is Alice gets arrested not by the hero from this show but by two random cops...
Defund the police yeah!
Why did Alice get arrested again? She's literally the only person on the show who gets shit done! The so called "heroes" are all incompetent buffoons.
@@veeclash4157: maybe because the bodycount from this murderous psycho... If they were competent enough Alice shouldn't be an option to resolve the problems at hand.
Question is: How is Bruce going to recognize Kate in her new face once she finds him?
@@psquared2020 hopefully he has a DNA kit hidden elsewhere.
Batwoman: repeated offender criminal Ryan Wilder, (a woman with a man's name) is set free merely hours after being rightfully arrested and anointed as the city's hero after doing absolutely nothing heroic.
Star Trek Discovery: unqualified officer and mutineer Michael Burnham (a woman with a man's name) responsible for a galactic war, is vindicated of all wrongs and hailed as galactic savior after doing nothing to end the war.
Star Trek Picard: galactic-scale genocidal fembot Soli is absolved of all blame for changing her mind at the last minute despite almost starting a galactic war in the process, while two murdering women also go unpunished and hailed as heroes for killing people.
DIsney's Star Wars sequels: uneducated scrap scavenger desert girl Rey (sounding just like the male name Ray) shows unheard-of powers and, without training, defeat the mightiest threat to an entire galaxy, ending up stealing ship, robot and even the name and legacy of previous heroes while actually being the villain's blood heiress.
I sense a trend here...
Or as Critical Drinker might say: “I can definitely smell shite…”😂😂
Well, in Discovery Michael was only released because an evil version of Lorca let her out. After that she was involved in a few things that could have got her some forgiveness given how willing to forget old grudges the Federation is.
Which was utter nonsense.
Since when a mere starship captain would have that authority? On what grounds? And for a mutineer, the worst possible crime in any military organization? And one that is openly violent, unrepenting, unqualified (never went to the Academy) and with no special skill whatosever to even consider her being singled out like this? And to be sent to roam free on the most secret, sensitive asset of all of Starfleet? In a time of war?
That could only happen in a corrupt incompetent organization run by morons. I know, that's what Kurtzmantrek's UFP and Starfleet are. proves the nonsense.
And you describe the UFP like it is Sunday school. Even with it's benevolence and enlightenment, the UFP does not simply ''forgive'' dangerous criminals. It rehabilitates them through years of social work before returning them to society; to return them to active duty is even more demanding. That's what penal colonies are for, not ''big Brother'' sponsorship, certainly not from the commanding officer of THE most secret and sensitive war asset in wartime. A war SHE was responsible for to boot.
I know, Tom Paris. But Paris had been serving term already for a while, showing good behavior, and admitted his guilt; and it was only for insubordination. He was released only for a short criminal-hunting mission, under constant surveillance, only as an observer, and only because of his established competence, special skills and relevant knowledge and specific experience; and that aboard a regular commissionned vessel in peace time.
The Federation can show leniency in the best of times, maybe, but not sheer stupidity in the worst of times.
Devil May Cry: a self insert OC redeems his genocidal father after telling him to stop being such a meanie meanie poop head to his brother
Garbage narratives ain't exclusive to shows and movies, y'know
@@jeremyallen492 Certainly not. Crap can be found anywhere.
bane only goes into "roid rage" when he overdoses on venom. otherwise he just gets bigger.
Wasn’t bane to begin with. It was menace maybe check the comics for more info on him
@@Spmnls Oh Bane was plenty big to begin with, I mean he broke Bruce's back without Venom hopping him up, but he does indeed get larger when he starts dosing on Venom.
@@Spmnls And it's not even a good rendition of that, he looks more like a reject from Hans and Franz's gym (the old skit on SNL back when it wasn't so woke). These writers are so lazy it's mind-boggling that they were actually employed, and clearly not on merits.
Also, how does one shot of venom make you as strong as bane for more than a few minutes? Don’t you need a constant supply of the stuff to keep its effect which is why bane has to wear that massive rig on his back with all the tubes?
@@ghostrangerz8273 He still has the Venom tubes in his arms which is giving him a constant supply of Venom.
this show is so bad it single handedly has destroyed batwoman as a character, she will never financially recover from this
You damn right. This show ruined Batwoman as a comic book character. They will reference this character from the CW show.
Yeah Kate anywhere she is
Dam he said she was unworthy in the comics? Which issue/ book was this.
Detective comics rebirth and it was orphan who ripped off the bat symbol
This show's writing is a fascinating look inside the workings of untalented and impressionable minds destroyed by the worst parts of pop culture.
Underrated comment of the season
The true tragedy is that we’ve lost Jacob after this season, granted I’m happy for Scott to get out of dodge while he could but he was the only character who was “normal” by the Batwoman universe standards.
1. Wikipedia
2. Copy name and short description.
3. Paste name and short description into script.
4. do whatever you like.
5. (Profit)
How modern day comic book shows are made.
It'll be hilarious if Javicia Leslie quit Batwoman and they had to recast the main role again
Then they would cast a genderfluid snail as the new batwoman
Lmao 😂 I wish
Well technically they've already lost two Kate kanes
Trans chinese girl becomes batwoman, kate kane shows up for like 2 episodes-the third season.
Also how insane do you have to be to not get rid of Ryan Wilder though she is such a horrible character times 1000x at kate's worst or anyone's worst for that manner.
Probably make erm Her, indian
I tapped out the second luke was going over the surveillance footage and Ryan said let me see. I literally counted down when she would find a mcguffin that Luke the "brains" of the operation couldn't see. The second she said the literal studio number I bailed faster than if I was in the titanic, my odds of survival on that wreck would have been better.
The Dark Knight Rises is probably the closest we've gotten to an accurate live action Bane so far.
Bane isn't some rage monster he's tactical and knows how to break his opponents physically and mentally.
Combine the Dark Knight Rises bane with the Batman and Robin bane and you get kinda close to a comic accurate version
YUP and predictably they shit on BANE in this show just like they did everything else.
I like to pretend Jacob escaped from jail and is living peacefully in the tropics in a fun tacky hawaiian shirt, drink in hand by the beach.
They're bringing in Ivy because she's Bi despite showing Penguin and, surprisingly, Mad Hatter which would make sense for Alice. You know the whole wonderland thing
5:05 In the comics after he was beaten by Azrael at the end of Knightfall Bane stopped using Venom and built himself back up the old fashioned way. Unfortunately some adaptations make him so addicted to it that all it really takes to beat him is to cut the tube.
Then he becomes shriveled up and needs Venom just to survive
Batwoman Writer: Bane is male, uses a muscle enhancing substance, is male, has toxic masculinity, therefore has roid rage because he's male!
Your torture isn't over. You know it, I know it.
Season 3 is coming.
Im ready for it 😂😂😂
looking forward to not watching it and listening to thorias review it instead👍
9:23 That logic still wasn't as weird as Ryan's "I'm the 327th kid born to a black woman who died giving birth to me so I deserve the Batsuit."
Considering how much hollywood hates red heads the will must likley bring Poisen Ivy just so they get a black woman as Poisen Ivy.
Call her Black Rose xD
Luke drew pictures of a black man as Batman. He never imagined himself, but someone else. Ridiculous
Transbatism?
Yes, they just *had* to play the identity politics angle again, these writers are so predictable it's painful.
He couldn't simply want to help, a la Steel, or most any other hero, in the universe. Simply wanting to do right, because it is just that. It had to be about ego and identity.
@@waynetech10 Congratulations on passing CRT 101
If only he had found an old prototype of a Batsuit and work on it in a two parter of the Finale.
Who would steal the Batmobile since it is slower than a 20 year old van.
Holy shit this show has been awful. I miss the days when shit shows would get canceled as soon as possible but today?
Nah it'll be fine, just let the shit run.
Now good shows get cancelled whereas the CW drags out shit shows that should be cancelled and says anyone who doesn't like them hates minorities.
It serves a purpose. If they cancelled Batwaman, they would need to make Superman's boys gay, make Lois scissor Lana and have Clark cry a lot as he talks about his feelings.
Wish that mentality was around few years ago. When all the good shows were cancelled for even slight rating drops. 🙄
I wouldn't be surprised if this should show kept running for let's say season 5 with only a thousand people watching.
no. bane never experienced roid rage. even when batman took venom, it never gave him that effect, he only suffered from addiction that drove him nuts. that's also a good comic by the way, batman: venom.
The Bane incarnation in "Batman and Robin" (1997) was all about the roid rage.
@@timberry4709 well yeah, but that’s objectively the worst incarnation of the character.
Though come to think of it if you combine the Batman and Robin version of Bane with the Dark Knight Rises version of him you get close to a comic accurate Bane.
Forget about Dr strange in the multiverse of madness we had Batwoman and the ending of madness.
My Comment from Previous Batwoman review: “Next week, we finally get Batwing, but knowing the track record of this show, they’ll probably botch it up”.
Current Batwoman Review: “Called it”
Most people who use Venom suffer from roid rage, Bane doesn't, because of his focus and intelligence, he is still dependent on the thing though, but there was a storyline where he overcame his addiction, Bane is always portrayed as a brute in other media though, when , in reality, he is a dangerous mix of brains and brawn
And that's why he's my favorite comic character
@@DrakeKnight99 your not the only one
CW network: we know you didn't like the first 2 seasons but we have a third coming.
Everyone: "face palms" just give up already...
I KNEW IT! I predicted that Luke would eventually get the Batwing and he was going to look like an idiot!!! #nailedit
This was hilariously rushed, a competent show would have had Roman get the things necessary to his plans like maybe buying the electrical company, foreshadow his plans for Gotham and have the heroes find out the plans and prepare for his plans before getting screwed over with Kate and having to improvise? Also, how come Menace wasn't a lieutenant for Black Mask instead basically acting like a baby and trying to find his comforter, wouldn't it be better if Luke, finding an old Batsuit and retrofitting it for himself and giving it back power then Luke and Ryan work together by splitting up so Ryan goes to find Black Mask and Circe while Luke goes to take down Menace and take away some of Black Mask's power? Like a team? But nope! Menace is taken down easily, Black Mask is taken down easily and Circe was somewhat taken down easily.
To be honest I would of not bothered with the Pirates stuff and solo had a new version of Black Mask be the main threat of the season Roman Sions Jr and Circe Sions be the twin of children of the original Black Mask stopped by Batman
Throughout the season each twin takes turns as Black Mask to throw off Batwoman to restore their father's legacy as a major Crime boss of Gotham.
But then Half through the season at the mid season either have Roman or Circe is killed by the police or the Crows and have the remaining siblings set out to burn gotham to the ground for the Police or Crows killing Roman or Circe
Batwoman has stop them the season ends with either Roman or Circe becoming the New Black Mask and have Kate witness them Kill Jacob being powerless to stop it.
Another cool idea would have been if, in addition to the Bane machine, Sionis had picked henchmen to use each of the other stolen villain hardware. One gets Mad Hatter's hat and uses its technology to mind- control citizens into either rioting in general or attacking the good guys, another gets Penguin's weaponized umbrella and uses it to fight Ryan and Alice, and so on.
But, nope, they just flushed all that potential right down the crapper, as usual.
Well Roman's plan from the beginning was incredibly dumb. He was essentially throwing a revolt against himself. I mean he controlled the police to the point they could just execute Ryan's social worker in the middle of the police station. Why would he want to dismantle a system he himself controls? And as far as swooping in as the hero by having Sionis kill Black Mask, all those ex-crows were hired by Sionis, who then put on the Black Mask, so they know they're one in the same.
@@Adamguy2003 So good ideas here. Maybe they should actually read comics and take something from there instead of just making no effort. It sucks for actually talented writers out there who never get published or get to work on a show or movie and these hacks are actually paid to come up with this bullshit.
@@adamandanna Yeah, that is frustrating.
I'm part of a group called the Facebook Midnight Society (Named after the group from the old show 'Are You Afraid of the Dark?'), with a scary story recorded and submitted by a group member each week, and most of the stories from that are better- written and more entertaining than any 'Batwoman' script. Even when social commentary is at times inserted into some of the stories, it's rare and is handled in much more subtle and effective way than 'Batwoman' tries to do so, because we know that, as far as creating likable stories goes, aiing them entertaining should be a MUCH higher priority than pushing a message.
Can't remember precisely how Venom works, if comics Bane was using a different formula or not, but short term it does make you go full 'roid rage. I think Bane built up a tolerance, but even he eventually detoxed and got clean from it. That being said, the idea of the guy not being actually dead in this episode isn't a retcon of death, it's more like "mob doctors are mob doctors because they are not good doctors". Coma state is indistinguishable from death for non-professionals.
I mean, he did flatline in the episode, it was even showed on a screen.
@@isplat927 fair, though I stand by my original point. It's not a death recon per se, the MacGuffin Flower is a straight up death recon. This is just basic authorial fuckery, and normally is allowable. Allowable, that is, in service to a good or at least entertaining story.
Honestly, the fact that this show wasted a character like Batwing and made his whole reason for existing to be be an agenda imposed token hero is no surprise.
Good riddance, Batwoman Season 2, you won't be missed.
And God bless you, Thorias, for suffering in our place.
Hello, I'm Luke the token male! I'm ok because I'm a minority and I CUCK for the women on this show!
@@veeclash4157 I'm sorry, Luke, you deserved better.
12:51 When Luke first drops in as Batwing the suit malfunctions and Mary goes from wondering who saved her to disgust after she finds out it's Luke.
I can’t wait for the “writers” to give us some ridiculous plot twist about Ryan’s mom in season three, like a reveal that her mom is Luke’s mom and that she gave away Ryan as a baby cause she didn’t think she was capable of taking care of a child before she met Lucius, and then we end up with unnecessary drama between Ryan and Luke cause he got the childhood that she was denied.
what the hell are you doing don't you know that the Batwoman writers watch these reviews and read comments stop giving them ideas. (puts duck tape over mouth) Shut yer trap.
@@michaelkean5969 lmao I’m just calling it cause I’m a writer myself and I watch this dumpster fire to show myself what not to do with Batman related stories.
She's probably Poison Ivy as well.
@@taun856 honestly I think that’ll be Ryan’s love interest for season three, cause after Angelique Martin, Ryan has to up her criminal love game to rogues gallery level next.
@King Slayer 😅😂🤣 I highly doubt it. If they do, I will take the blame at that point.
And people(SJW likely) still think Static is as bad as this movie.
static?
what
Excuse me???
@@cameronclophus7998 yeah apparently some SJW make comparison with their show they support and Static as a cartoon show. And they think SJW does it better than Dwayne Mcduffie. Also someone reboot the static comic but it was horendous, which butchered his legacy. RIP Dwayne Mcduffie.
When you say Static, do you mean Static Shock?
Congrats Thorias. You made it threw season 2 and you still have all your hair. Truly an impressive feat. Season 1 must have been worse or you are now truely dead inside.
This show is written by a bunch of 5th graders given a writing assignment to create a Batwoman story. The plot advances like those stories. Things just happen......because.
That's insulting to the writing quality of fifth graders. I could have written better scripts than this when I was in fifth grade.
@@Adamguy2003 True. I thought of another example....the storyline runs like my 6 year old niece when she tells you about her day.
Excuse me but I know for a fact I was a better writer in the 5th grade than these hacks
Oh hey cute them some slack...5th grades have vast amounts of imagination and could write circles around these hacks.
I am surprised.
Luke was allowed to win on his own, without needing to be saved by a woman!
Sure it sucked as bad as it can while still existing, but it was still his own victory... which is something I guess...
He exploited a loophole is the show's rules. If he had been fighting a woman, he would have had no chance. But if the fight is between two men and one of them has to win, the advantage would typically go to whichever character is more woke. Luke is black, Tavaroff is white, so weirdly enough, this was a fight Luke almost couldn't lose.
Well, there was the "Bane" in that "Batman and Robin" movie, who was nothing BUT a "'Roid Rage Monster."
We don't mention that movie. Doesn't exist. Just a fever dream
please don't mention that film
@@Payload82 Or the Bat-Creditcard.
@@johannesseyfried7933 A BAT CREDIT CARD! *pulls out gun and starts shooting at every moving thing*
@@cameronclophus7998 bat credit card....... batman/Bruce Wayne is rich. Bruce creates and utilized ghost or shell companies to help build his bat gear...... what is so rage-intusion about a bat credit card.. ?...... go into the corner for punishment.
Salute to you for surviving another season! 👏🏾 And thru all of these episodes of shitting on Jacob, mentioning Ryan's step mom and real mom...do they ever, like even for a second mention her dad? Because she's black he just isn't a thing? Kinda racist
Like real life, Thorias, the rioting didn't stop: the news just stopped reporting on it.
Not only did it not stop in several cities, there are still occupied zones.
Yeah and this isn’t even new starting last year. There have been areas in inner cities where police refuse to go for years. Only that was due to apolitical violent criminality instead of Marxist militant occupation.
In chicago, we have open air drug markets right off the expressway. People sell drugs openly like a flea market. Police don’t go there because they will be shot on sight.
Batsuit storage-
Batman 1989: 3 in thick steel safe
Batman Returns 1994: 3 inch thick Steel Vault with a drawbridge.
Batwoman 2021: Out in the open on a black mannequin
Batwing 2021: Under a white sheet in the corner of the storage room.
They are the ones riding this not me....
Wait a sec, Luke's idea of what a "Black Batman" would look like is a suite that covers his entire body so no one can tell he's black?
Lucius made the suit but Luke made the drawings of a black Batman, and that was pretty much it, a black man in the Batsuit.
They could have just said "what I would look like as Batman".
I think that would have sounded much better.
@@johannesseyfried7933 True but first off it wouldn't be pushing their narrative and second since when does this show care about how their lines sounded?
Last Episode! I can't even fathom how much torture you had to endure my bro! We are all still with you Thorias!
You’d think we would get a scene with Jacob finally reuniting with her daughter, but no she just disappears again like at the beginning.
I feel like the only good adaptation of Black Mask was in the animated Under the Red Hood film. The Birds of Prey version of him sucked, the Batwoman version of him does, he should have been the main villain of Batman Arkham Origins but instead Joker who shouldn't even have been in it was.
Red hood black mask was hilarious
Black mask was great in under the red hood. Machine Head from invincible kinda reminds me of him in that movie.
Thank you Mr. Thorias for all the entertainment.
Rachel carries this show on her back
Why is CW even continuing this show? Its so boring, stupid, and makes little sense whatsoever. Not even popular critics like this.
Imagine what this show could've been with Wallis Day as Kate Kane and some actual decent writing. I keep wondering who the audience is for this show, because the numbers seem to be dropping in volumes week by week. And why is it getting a third season if it's continually doing so poorly? Isn't it losing the CW money?
Think because they think ppl will think they're prejudice if they do
You deserve an award for your work on this show.
You put more effort into it than the writers themselves.
I wish I could say I was rooting for the villain, but even the villains are as disappointing as a charred steak.
There's no discernible difference between heroes and villains on Batwoman. Everyone is narcissistic, and nobody does anything for any reason beyond accolades and adulation.
Bro..You're a hero for putting up with, not one, but TWO whole seasons of that show..Because of you, i only had to endure the first 4 episodes of season one..Thanks for taking yet ANOTHER ONE for the team!
I expect it to have about 12 viewers left and still be renewed for three more seasons.
I was curious how Luke never saw the Batwing suit after all that time in the cave, but then I remembered the writing on this show.
11:35 to be fair luke not being able to fully control his new suit is good character writing. It's just that we all know that if he was female there would have been no issue
Batwoman needs a new team of writers, and a few retcons. Not just lazy retcons, retcons with a purpose. Changes: Kate finds out her face isn’t actually changed, it was her all along but simply told that to go along with the brainwashing, to demoralize her and make it less likely she’d break it. New things: Bludhaven is introduced, Nightwing along with it, and he teaches Ryan important lessons in being a vigilante as she realizes that she has been over her head the whole time but desires to continue crime fighting. Dick has a heart to heart with Luke about Bruce, and what it means taking up being a protector of Gotham as Batwing, this helps Ryan and Luke to grow closer and experience their own parallel growth throughout the new season. Also, Dick explains Bruce’s absence, Kate returns with an epiphany that she needs to play an active role in helping Beth return, since they have been apart emotionally this entire time. At the end of the season, Kate and Beth, along with Kate’s step-sister leave the show for good.
Ah, but who needs character growth when you got STRONG POWERFUL WAHMEN!!
Funny though because I swore in Season 1 they ripped into Bruce Wayne for at least 3 episodes for "abandoning " Gotham . And low and behold they write of Kate in the exact same manner. But by actually abandoning the city :)
Batwing didn't do shit in this episode and he won't do shit in season 3 either. He's going to be put on a corner because the writers aren't going to let a straight black man take the spotlight from the black bisexual Batwahman. I want this show to die and never be brought back. Just let it die. The only good thing that came from this season is Dougray Scott finally leaving the show poor guy must have gotten insane from working on this dumpster fire.
Wait, Ryan is bi? I thought those didn’t exist in this universe
The look of despair on your face at the beginning of every Batwoman video you do is hilarious. And it's how I know that I will love your review.
By this point I’m about 90% sure the writers are illiterate, their scripts are just crayon doodles, and no one cares enough to tell them
Next time on Batwoman season 3, Ryan virtue signals to some random guy about how evil he is for being white and straight, Luke tries to save people but slips on a banana peel and falls down a flight of stairs into a pie, Mary doesn't report a mass murderer she treats and he kills all her patients but she acts all high and mighty to the authorities, Jacob dies from a quick hit on the head and nobody goes to his funeral, Mary's mom Kathryn is revealed to have been involved with human trafficking, Sophie while working a case doesn't where gloves and puts her fingerprints on everything, Poison Ivy turns out to be a victim of an evil homophobe who she kills and gets away with it because gay, and Kate finds Bruce in a cell, acts smug and arrogant towards him and kills him with on punch before embarrassing him.
If only Ryan had trained, she won't have needed a meat shield to fight Circe. So how does Alice know about Ryan's biological mother is alive, but her adopted mother didn't? My expectations for Batwing were low, but wow. The writers gave him 5 seconds of screen time. He didn't ever get to design his own suit.
She'll find bruce, he'll tell her she was better than he ever was and that it's her legacy now. He'll then offer his new girlfriend to her as a reward and give them a full service wedding. She's gonna be married to catwoman...calling it now.
That was not how Black Mask is forced to wear his mask 24/7, his face was burned while he was wearing the mask and is now marked with an identation of the mask
Wait that really happened. Any other black mask facts or bat woman facts.
So in the end season 2 of Batwoman has ripped off from these franchises
-Fast and Furious
-Breaking Bad
-The Walking Dead
-Now, V For Vendetta
This show is pure dogshit and Do-Gray Scott is not coming back in the third season(he is most likely going to go to his favorite dive bar and drinking himself to the point of puking and shitting himself and ranting about his career was ruined after he lost the role of Logan in X-Men).
Poison Ivy is going to be Ryan's mom. Guess the legacy of Batwoman to the writers is she must be related to the villain
Nah man, I'll do you one better. What if she's the illegitimate daughter of Batman and Catwoman. In this way we can tarnish Bruce's reputation way more than Kate ever did while proping up Ryan by giving her full control of Wayne Enterprises and officially part of Bruce's bloodline.
@@zoltvolt8808 Ryan Kyle? Perfect! Two first names, just like Bruce Wayne.
@@zoltvolt8808 that broke me
Congrats, now you can proudly say you are a batwhamen veteran. "I survived batwoman.... 2 seasons" T shirt coming soon?
I expect nothing. Honestly they're is no way they could fix or save this nightmare storm of a show. It's just insanely stupid, just cancel it already and save some face...
Jacob (who always tried to do the right thing) - jail.
Rest-of-Cast (who always did the selfish, self-absorbed thing) - freedom, murder, free-pass on theft and drug issues.
The writer's 6 year old son is tired of supplying plot ideas.
A 6 year old would write better plots than this shows writers did.
I wander if they're going to make Alice red Alice now that she's "redeemed". I also wonder if they will ever make Mary Flamebird/Hawkfire.
Is Alice an actual Character in the Comics? I simply assumed they made her up for this Show like Ryan.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Alice is a real comic character but her origin is different. Kate, Elizabeth and their mother were driving to a place to celebrate the twin's birthday but suddenly they were hit by a truck, then they were kidnapped by masked men. When Jacob finally found them he found the dead body of his wife, a dead body of a unidentified little girl who he believed was Beth and a still alive Kate. Years later Alice popped up leading the Religion of Crime in Gotham and Batwoman's had to fight her. It was only later she discovered Alice was Beth and it was because Alice said that Kate has their father's eyes.
So the hook for next season is the search for Ryan's birth mom which they expect us to care about when they never focused or her step mom, you know the one who's death "inspired" her to be a hero. Aside from the first episode and the one where she hallucinates she's barley even mentioned we don't even get a proper flash back of them bonding. Compare this to the first seasons of Flash & Blacklightning, they show us thru conversation and flashback how their parents affected their lives and how the trauma of losing them haunted them and inspired them. But no instead the brainless idiots we writers decided all of our hero's backstory revolves around her Ex and the fact that she is bitter about being arrested for a crime she actually committed. Thou its no surprised her father isn't mentioned, an SJW show about female empowerment has no need for good fathers
I forgot that in that "speech" of hers, that the mother was supposedly dead. Somehow I think her mother will turn out to be Renee Montoya to tie in the more well know Batwoman to this series.
@@Nabinut I pray to God that your wrong I don't want Renee ruined by this show like everyone else
@@patrickmcguire7896 I want to be wrong about it as well, but given how the witers have done with other Batman/Batwoman characters, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Come to find out, I was half right. Batwoman IS introducing Renee Montoya new season, but they will have someone else be Ryan's Birth mother. Someone named Jada Jet with a deranged son named Marquis. The writers might make him one of the big bads of the season.
@@Nabinut Of course the brother is the bad guy and I bet they make the mother sympathetic and redeemable. Well maybe since these are original villains the show will actually care to develop them and their plans
Or maybe they'll just be as scattered brained and incompetent as all the rest of $hit shows villains
I kinda want Thorias to do vids on the other shows but only season reviews, I don't think he'll have to willpower to sit through all the episodes except for maybe Black Lightning and S&L.
Bruce always seems to forget about his hate of firearms when they are equipped on heavy armoured vehicles and jets lol.
They're gonna kill Jacob off-screen come Season 3. I'm calling it now.
Or turn him into a new joker
@@tonyantonellis9983 Wanna bet?
@@generationclash5004 I can see poison ivy controlling Alice and Alice puts a white face on Jacob's face and harley puts a microchip with joker's memory on Jacob's neck and then Jacob becomes resurrected joker
@@tonyantonellis9983 What the fuck, they're gonna drag Harley Quinn into this trash fire as well? I already know about Poison Ivy.
I in all honesty hope that Rachel Skarsten gets better roles after this.
And then everyone clapped. Isnt that how “THESE” stories normally end?
Jacob takes one for the team, again. Not the Hero we needed, but the one we deserved.
I am really going to miss these reviews. Can't wait for season 3!
You did a great job with this. Especially with the plot contradicting themselves!
When Mary left her illegal clinic to think about the Snakebite, did she ever consider her "team" was left alone to be killed by Tavaroff? Thank goodness this season is over!
Of course not, Mary ultimately thinks of no one but herself, just like a tried and true narcissist.
Sounds exactly like the story structure I'd expect from affirmative action writing hires, on a series mostly about current year social justice idiocy.
I only have one thing to say
Don't forget about season 3
I think the best way to describe bane's powers is that the oxygen is his blood that would normally go to the brain, is being force into his rapidly growing muscles making him dizzy and confused, but in reality he would have died in seconds for organ failure, unless you are super organ-man.
They could have at least have Bruce Wayne finally get ahold of Luke and tells him he needs help protecting Gotham from Criminals and he needs to step up to Help Batwoman and lets him know he left the Suit in the Cave or something. That almost connects with the Comic. But nope… Now if he gets his own Series maybe by the end of Batwoman Season 3 because yeah there’s another. Then his Backstory will have no meaning going into the Show!… But also I’m hoping if Batwing does get his own Series its by the Superman & Lois crew!
You did it. You survived. Congrats. See you for whatever’s next.
If only there was a God out there, Season 3 would get canned.
"Daddy, wheres my super suit?!"
Hey! Thanks for the entertaining videos. I looked forward to them at the start of every week. You're awesome!
I think the most intresting thing this whole season is how every new character from season 2 except Ryan has either been stuffed in the fridge or killed. It's like they're afraid all of them were going to pull a Ruby Rose and quit so they put easily explainable ways for them to come back in case they decided to stay.
Thanks for taking all of these bullets for the team so we didn't have to!! Never watched a second of Batwoman but watched all of your reviews.
If I was writing the show, I would have had Jacob mortally wounded by one of the criminals Mary saved in her clinic but didn’t report. When he died Mary would confess to running an illegal clinic out of guilt.
You'd think she'd have learned her error after criminals killed her mother, but no, she just goes back to what she'd always done, guilt is not in her makeup.
Hail Thorias! Thank you for your entertaining reviews and I am sorry you had to suffer the awfulness that was Batwoman season 2. I can't believe season 3 is a going to be a thing...
I wonder what happens when the Chaos spawn (sorry for the 40k reference) directing Batwehmen will do once the show's ratings reach 0. I m starting to think that the awfulness regarding Batwehmen is a convoluted scheme devised by the Chaos God master planner Tzeentch...
This show is heresy at it's finest and I am terrified if they bring in Bruce to ruin his legacy even more next season...
Take care Thorias and I hope you recover well from this nightmare.