Zhou Duan - 1997 East Asian Games Team - Uneven Bars

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  • @intldawn
    @intldawn 8 років тому +19

    What. A. Routine! That is a fabulous variation of the Gaylord II, and she worked out of it so beautifully. Fantastic move.

  • @QueenieQue
    @QueenieQue 16 років тому +11

    That was amazing! One of the most exciting bar routines I've ever seen.

  • @matthewwhitaker8283
    @matthewwhitaker8283 2 роки тому +3

    What a shame she didn’t have the chance to do this internationally so she could be given the skill.

  • @boytoyville
    @boytoyville 17 років тому +5

    WOW!!! Why was she never at worlds or Olympics! That was AMAZING!

    • @rjt93
      @rjt93 4 роки тому +2

      boytoyville she was at 1997 Worlds and picked up two medals!

  • @gymnastalexliang
    @gymnastalexliang 17 років тому +4

    Man, and this was 1997? This woman was ten or more years ahead of her time!!

    • @captainbryce1
      @captainbryce1 3 роки тому +4

      More like 20 years ahead of her time. The Geinger into Pak salto combination is something that's rare even for today, and we still haven't seen a Gaylord II variant done at an FIG event yet. With some minor changes (take out extra giant swing + add a new transition skill from low bar to high bar) she could perform this routine under the 2017-2021 CoP and it would still challenge for a gold medal.

  • @66QQ66
    @66QQ66 16 років тому +5

    Bi Wenjing is Duan's best friend. Just see their pictures on Bi's blog

  • @uwoeric
    @uwoeric 16 років тому +6

    She was at the 1997 Worlds, made FX finals and won a silver on VT. She's also quite good on BB, and her UB prowess is obvious. It's too bad she didn't get to compete in the AA, I thought she was better than Liu Xuan or Kui Yuanyuan in the AA.

  • @Hervinbalfour
    @Hervinbalfour 3 роки тому +3

    Imagine going from a Mo Salto into a Hindorff as a combination. That would be so incredible. Someone needs to bring this skill back.

    • @hannahwalmer1124
      @hannahwalmer1124 3 роки тому +1

      G skill+ E skill. What CV would that be worth?

    • @gaodrob7938
      @gaodrob7938 3 роки тому

      @@hannahwalmer1124 +0.2

    • @captainbryce1
      @captainbryce1 3 роки тому +1

      Not until they change the code. The 2017-2021 CoP does not reward the Mo Salto, as it typically results in a built-in deduction (dead-hang). Although we do see that it seems possible to connect the Mo salto to another skill and avoid the dead hang (as Zhou does in this video with the Gaylord II), however that's a huge ask. The release is hard enough on it's own, let alone connecting it to another skill. What they need to do is change the CoP to allow for a dead hang after a release IF it is followed immediately by a transition skill (similar to the way Mo Huilan and Bi Wenjing did it). That rule would also apply to the Counter-Kim release move and make it viable again.

    • @Ajay.Plants
      @Ajay.Plants 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@captainbryce1the code has had those few releases exempt from that deduction since at least 2013

  • @samisfun868
    @samisfun868 2 місяці тому

    idk why this popped into my feed but WOW - this could still worth a lot in the current COP? 3 release moves in the 90s unheard of.

  • @ralucagymnast
    @ralucagymnast 14 років тому +9

    Plus the did the Geinger into an immediate Pak Salto too, Such i an nnovative, daring routine would be given the credit it deserves with the new code of points. Thats one thing I do like about this new COP it rewards risk and daring. Problem was in these days, the highest a routine could start from was a 10; this routine should have been marked from a 20 on difficulty alone! Also, isnt the Gaylord 2 a Kovac witha full twist in it???

    • @timothychiles6675
      @timothychiles6675 4 роки тому +1

      Like a covacs with a half twist

    • @captainbryce1
      @captainbryce1 3 роки тому

      Not really. It's more like a Geinger over the bar. It's normally done in the piked position. The variation seen here doesn't really have a name in either men's or women's gymnastics.

  • @Pagan1123
    @Pagan1123 14 років тому +3

    Mostepanova fan includes this in her guide as a 'skill we might see again' but the rating is a dash meaning it does not have one in the CoP

  • @Pagan1123
    @Pagan1123 14 років тому +3

    Look up Mostepanovafan's Uneven Bar Release Guide. Only Mo Huilan's Gaylord is ranked in the new COP. Zhou Duan is the only person to have competed this skill in WAG and she never competed it in Worlds or Olympics so it is not named for her and it is not in the code of points. In Men's it is called the Gaylord II. If another gymnast performs this skill at worlds or olympics it will be named after her and added to the CoP

  • @kras118
    @kras118 15 років тому +1

    wow!! love it.. that first release was siiick

  • @pkim45
    @pkim45 15 років тому +1

    Awesome routine, and I love the 007 on her back.

  • @yanlee2436
    @yanlee2436 2 роки тому +1

    0:20 amazing.

  • @GnomaticReverie
    @GnomaticReverie 15 років тому +5

    This routine is about 20 years ahead of its time. Zhou Duan was borne in the wrong era. If the new CoP was in place then, she would have been the queen of UB.
    It is simply unconscionable for her to get such a low score. Should have made those judges do a gaylord 2.

  • @Pagan1123
    @Pagan1123 14 років тому +2

    @KarpfenKarpfen It will be rated at least as difficult as the Gaylord, or Mo Salto which Mo Huilan did. Other things there is a base line... like on Balance Beam any salto done with a 2 foot take off is a D rating... so you know you have at least that. I'm sure they have an accurate way to calculate it.

  • @SchwarzeWitwe2
    @SchwarzeWitwe2 13 років тому +1

    @GnomaticReverie You're probably right, but today's judges are more obsessed with hitting the handstand than ever before. That seems to be her weakness. But a Gaylord 2/Deltchev? Respect!

  • @gymcentric5727
    @gymcentric5727 3 роки тому

    5.4 in the new code!

  • @KarpfenKarpfen
    @KarpfenKarpfen 14 років тому

    thanks for explaining^^

  • @saldekcn
    @saldekcn 15 років тому +1

    Can anybody educate me why she only got a 9.50? This is GAYLORD II + hip circle 1/2 + Gienger !!!! Totally insane. And she stuck the landing. There are a few form breaks, but a 9.50? wtf.

  • @figureskatingDIY
    @figureskatingDIY 11 років тому

    Just Super!

  • @ralucagymnast
    @ralucagymnast 13 років тому

    @MaebySurelyBarely Sorry im only just replying!Yes thanks for your explanation: I understand it better now. Its hard to see these releases properly sometimes, they happen so fast, its often difficult to work out when the twists happen and how many, thanks again:)

  • @KarpfenKarpfen
    @KarpfenKarpfen 14 років тому +1

    sorry? I dont understand your response xD
    I only asked how difficult this skill is ranked in the new CoP
    or do you mean its not ranked because she didnt do it at worlds or olympics?
    Sounds a bit illogical^^

  • @xiaoyuansuo51
    @xiaoyuansuo51 14 років тому

    this was .... amaaaazing!!!! what happened to her afterward?

  • @KarpfenKarpfen
    @KarpfenKarpfen 14 років тому

    How difficult is her amazing first release ranked in the new CoPß

  • @ralucagymnast
    @ralucagymnast 14 років тому

    Also the Gaylord 2 is like a Kovacs with a full twist in it too.

  • @KarpfenKarpfen
    @KarpfenKarpfen 14 років тому +1

    oh, i see, I'm sorry.But i still have a question: If another gymnasts has to perform it first at Worlds or Olympics so the skill will get a rating, how can a gymnast include a skill without knowing how difficult it is?
    How can you tell the gymnast's d-score without that information?

  • @Pagan1123
    @Pagan1123 14 років тому

    @KarpfenKarpfen its not... only the Mo Salto is.. she never did this at worlds or Olympics

  • @CMIKE9783
    @CMIKE9783 15 років тому

    Swinging wise, she is as good as he kexin. perfect giant technique before her release! swings like the men!

  • @pkim45
    @pkim45 16 років тому

    JESUS.

  • @agators212
    @agators212 16 років тому

    well, i believe the gaylord one is done in an inverted giant to a front flip over the bars. the gaylord it is a geiger flip over the bars

  • @sikaivy
    @sikaivy 15 років тому +1

    or World Cup Final

  • @b0rtie
    @b0rtie 11 років тому

    Stupid question but what grip does she catch the Gaylord II in? Regular or backwards grip?

  • @titangymnast27
    @titangymnast27 11 років тому

    there are empty swings in this routine? do you mean just plain giants with no pirouetting?

  • @gymns411
    @gymns411 16 років тому

    I believe the gaylord I is the Mo Salto for women.....the gaylord II...is from back giants. Unless I have it backwards....either way the Mo Salto(whether that is the gaylord i or gaylord ii) is the one that comes from inverts or front giants.

  • @uwoeric
    @uwoeric 16 років тому

    Only a 9.5??? WTF!

  • @deeamparo1703
    @deeamparo1703 16 років тому

    yes, the Gaylord I is the Mo Salto.

  • @_padfoot
    @_padfoot 2 роки тому

    Wait did her Gaylord never make its way into the women's code at all because of the dumb old rules? Does it still technically not exist or have a rating? (Though presumably it would be a G like the Mo Salto, which I can see *is* in the current CoP).

    • @captainbryce1
      @captainbryce1 2 роки тому

      This skill was never performed at an FIG event (World Championships, World Cup, or Olympic Games) and consequently has no name in the CoP. It should be called the Zhou Salto (as she is clearly the first person to ever do this), but it wasn't done at a big enough competition unfortunately. I agree that it most likely would have the same value "G" as a Mo Salto, as this is essentially a variation of the Gaylord II.

  • @saldekcn
    @saldekcn 15 років тому

    Unfortunately not. I guess a skill can only be named in Olympics or worlds.