Its always just establishment owners pitting their employees against customers in a war to harrang and harass you for cash they won't pay. I stop going to places with electronic tipping for stuff that isn't service, because they're clearly disgustingly fat to the point of insanity on other people money and don't need me.
I used to eat out as a treat a couple of times a week, but I no longer do because of the incessant expectation of tips from everyone, everywhere. I don’t need the annoyance.
He hits the nail on the head when he says that tips have zero correlation to the quality of the service or how hard the employee in question works. If that was actually the case then the guy in the dish pit would be going home with $1000 in cash every night, because in every restaurant I've ever worked in, without exception, the hardest working employee was always the dishwasher. Not a chef, not a server, certainly not a bartender, although most of them do grind hard; always the guy who's bussing tables and washing dishes and staying late after the end of service to unload the purveyors' trucks and stock the pantry and walk-in. Anyway, the biggest thing I don't like about tipping is because it is not nor should it be my responsibility to pay the wages of someone else's employees.
Its almost like tipping began as them passing the buck to employees, which they were willing to take, due to circumstances, but then in they passed it over to you. If anyone in any establishment ever gives me shit for not tipping, I immediately become Bill Murray obnoxious and cause a scene, and they totally deserve it. In no world is it okay for employees to beg me like panhandlers just because food was involved.
Dishwashing was the worst job I've ever had. Absolutely miserable. It's loud, you have no time to rest, you spend the whole day soaking your hands in gross, scalding hot water and chemicals that literally say on the bottle that they shouldn't come in contact with skin, there's always the risk that a knife or a blade of some sort made its way into the water without you noticing, you're probably going to end up working late unless you're really fast, and it pays absolute shit. I remember scrubbing dishes and doing the math in my head and crying when I realized how many hours of this shit I had to work in order to pay my (very low) rent.
@@laurenmc4032 nope. Employee salary is the responsibility of the employer. Not the customer. Do teachers get tips? And if we don’t tip they can tell you to keep your kids at home? No. Because they are paid by their schools. Just like servers should be paid by the restaurants. Restaurant owners want customers and servers to continue arguing about this when it always should come back to the OWNER being responsible for paying their employees.
@@johnsmith1953x Bringing a drink and a meal to my table. They only need to check once. Driving a bus would be more mentally taxing and of higher skill level
Usually workers make more from tipping. I'd rather go to a restaurant that allows tipping and has far lower menu prices. I like tipping for good service because I like giving my service worker money directly and know shes getting my money directly.
@the1337fleet because people always want more and are typically ignorant. They often don't realize how good they have it until they loose it. That's why we have the saying "the grass isn't always greener on the other side"
I only give tips if I dine in because it involves service but when just grabbing a coffee to go, I just hit no tips. Thanks god this pressure doesn't work on me lol
I was eating at a restaurant and dropped a 5 yen coin and didn't notice, I had walked about a quarter mile when the owner came running after me to return a 5 yen coin. Now that is service
I take issue with the fact that tip percentages keep growing over time. Inflation is already baked into the price of the meal, therefore tips go up proportionately if the percentage remains the same. By increasing the expected tip percentage, it means servers are now paid twice as much as they used to even after adjusting for inflation. And, it is the reason why servers can make hundreds of dollars a week even if they only work part-time. I've never bought into the sob story for the waiting industry given that wait staff often make 2-3x per hour what their minimum wage counterparts make. I'm not suggesting that these people are rich, but objectively speaking they are doing much better than other workers of similar education/skill levels.
Thats the real problem with tipping today that the video did not touch on. It's not the tipping percentage thats pissing people off. It's being asked to tip on things that you shouldn't be tipping for. For example tipping at a self checkout cashier as a drugstore? Why should I tip a machine? Or tipping when you order takeout and pickup the food yourself. I'm an uber eats driver but as a customer I'm not tipping someone to ring up the transaction at the counter. If your not waiting on me or delivering the food to my house then tipping shouldn't be required. In Boston there are bars that have people standing by the sinks asking for tips just to hand me a paper towel. Like seriously I'm not tipping to have someone hand me a paper towel. The services in these industries have been declining for years but tipping has been increasing.
It’s so rampant that I refuse to tip anymore. Period. I’m not doing it. Unless for workers such as valet parkers, restaurant waitresses, pizza or food delivery drivers. That’s about it. The ones that required tipping back in the 90s
Coming from Germany this whole discussion seems wild and inhumane. Tipping should be a thanks for great service, you shouldn’t ever be obligated to tip. The minimum wage on the other hand is insanely low as well. With our current inflation, you should get at least 15$ per hour.
How about instead of raising minimum wages to something that will unemploy every non-educated worker, we just stop printing money for bailouts, foreign aid, and courting illegals? Just stop.
That would be most countries, US tipping culture is insane. In EU we don't usually tip, we may let them keep the change when we don't want to bother with it or we tip because we were served well But there is no expectation from anyone that there will be a tip for any reason as workers are paid a decent wage
@@Aenion11Exactly! But if everyone stoped tipping in the US all the workers would look for new jobs. And then the companies would have to raise prices so they could pay real salaries, like we do in Europe. Also remember the Unions are stronger in Europe, than the US.
The tipping culture has changed so much. Businesses are now demanding tips when no service is involved. It's time to end corporate greed and make businesses PAY their workers! Americans need to band together and start a no tip movement!! NO MORE TIPPING!!
When I visited Europe, there was not even a line on the receipt to add a tip when using a credit card. I thought that was great! It infuriates me that US restaurants have their easy select tip options and often the smallest percent is 18 or even 20%. NO I refuse 10% is good service 15% is great service which barely exists and the overall bill matters meaning this will swing widely based on time and effort. If I buy a $1000 bottle of wine and that's it, baring the server performed a magic show for me expect $20. If I order a $5 beer and that's it but take your table expect about a $5 tip.
Excellent analysis. “IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO TIP 25% YOU SHOULDN’T GO OUT TO EAT”. HOW STUPID! IF PEOPLE DIDN’T GO OUT TO EAT RESTAURANTS WOULD CLOSE AND SERVERS WOULDN’T HAVE A JOB!
I would pass a law that says the tip must be included in the base price. The price I see should be the price I pay. Some law about putting all those extra charges.
Some restaurants also CHARGE additional % BOH (back of house) included in your bill. Plus expected 20% tip. In Europe, no tipping that's because they pay their restaurant staff and all have health insurance. Restaurant workers here rarely get benefits.
If informed by the server, I would walk out. If not informed, I would give zero tip. If after searching, this is not publicly written on theirmenus, I would refuse to pay. Problem solved.
After living in other countries I seen how backwards tipping was. It invites so many taboo superstitious perspective of, “what affects my tip” vs a company just providing good service. Don’t forget the service industry going against tipping isn’t likely because it’s an agreement between the employer and employee to exploit the consumer. Some places require reporting tips but cash tips aren’t always losing the taxable income a serve has aka they keep more.
Although I am a tipper, but I'm also European, so I see tips being appropriate only if the service was exiting job requirements, so even in Europe tipping is getting out of hand. The best example and approach is in Japan - they have the best service in the world and don't give or accept tips.
I'm one of those who has a negative impression of tipping, even though I worked in college as a server. I've entirely stopped tipping outside of traditionally tipped jobs. If they ask for a tip before I receive something, a sandwich, coffee, etc..the tip is zero. I'm so over the guilt portion of it. The other thing that changed is tipping on delivery. Initially, I tipped based on the price of the food. Then I realized that I was tipping more for Sushi than a burger even though both stores were next to each other. The service being provided is delivery and has nothing to do with the cost of the food. Now, I tip based on distance. I start a tip out at $3 for delivery and tip .5 per mile. If something is 4 miles away, they would get a $5 tip regardless of the cost of the food.
@@TheRealEdStoner I did do ok waiting tables in college. And that when a good tip was considered to be 10%. I did fine. Better per hour than those working accross the street at Burger King and MCDonalds In fact I quit that fast food to go accross the street to bus then wait tables. Back when 10% was good enough. Which then turned to 15% in the 80’s and 90’s. Then it became 20% in the 2000 -2010’s. Now they have been trying to make 23% to 28% the norm. This is when I quit dining out.
i refuse to tip 20% or higher. tips should be a courtesy not a right. the employer should pay their staff appropriately. anything over 20% while its nice for the person only feeds into an ever increasing monstrosity of a failed wage system. 25% my foot. 35% lol 40% get real!
I am willing to tip in restaurants where food is brought to my table, but I draw the line at being asked to tip at a self-service checkout or any restaurant where I have to go up to the counter and get my own food. Tipping is not supposed to apply to people who make the food, those people earn minimum wage. It's supposed to be for waiters and such. I think they rolled out a lot of new digital systems during the pandemic when people were tipping service people for bringing food out to their car, and somehow the expectation to keep doing it even though things are somewhat back to normal has "stuck," even though it now makes no sense because we are going up to the counter in person and getting our food.
Agreed! thats the problem right there. Being expected to tip on things that we typically wouldn't tip on. Now self checkouts are asking us to tip? Like really I'm not tipping a machine.
I visit the USA. Now I understood that I was expected to tip some people. OK different country and different standards. But recently when I look at these clips I am getting the idea that I am expected to pay a large tip for no service at all. There was even a suggestion that auto check outs at supermarkets were adding a tip to the bill. For whatever reason I cannot imagine. If I find that a starbucks won't make me a coffee without a tip it will be the last starbucks coffee I buy. I can do without the product and I can DEFINITELY do without the aggravation.
Why America, just why? Why can't you look around the rest of the world and see how they do things? and while you're doing that, why not look at how other places do healthcare, mandatory holiday, parental leave, worker's rights and funding higher education blah blah When you get things right it's really good, but dear god in heaven when you fail at something it's so epic you don't even know where to start
When I worked at Panera Bread as a cashier I made only $8/hr and they very stricly did not allow us to accept tips. So I'm pretty salty about how ridiculous tipping culture has become
I boycotted Subway in 2021 because of this BS, already paying $12 for a disappointing sandwich and the machine telling me to tip 15%. Almost charged strangers to watch me eat the subway through the other hole to help cover the cost but I decided to just not eat their again.
Why are the wages of the service workers the customers problem? Is this what we've become as country? Shouldnt these workers be screaming to be unionized to give them a fair wage? Or are they so greedy, that they dont want that because they know they wont make as much as they would on a few good nights of tips? Personally, Im done going to restaurants that force gratuity. I do take out and I sure as shit aint tipping for that.
I pay for my meal or drink when ordering, checking that it corresponds with menu pricing. Any addons will embrassingly need to be disclosed by the owner at this point. If not satisfied, walk out.
I don't tip by computer. I do tip waiters, waitresses, taxi cab drivers, barbers, and musicians, but I don't pay someone just to take my money, and I don't do Venmo. I only tip with cash. The amount I tip has nothing to do whether my server is male or female, black or white or Hispanic or Asian, old or young, beautiful or ugly, with a big chest or little chest. It has to do with how the server treats me, and how good a job he or she does for me..
I feel absolutely no pressure for not shoveling my money at another person for doing the job they are getting a check for doing. A tip is a generosity, not an obligation. Period. They can swing that tablet around as much as they like. I'll tip IF I wish, and if I do wish, I'll tip HOW MUCH I want. Also, I don't tip based on a % of the check, that's crazy.
Servers are actually entirely unnecessary labour. You can easily remove them and still have well functioning restaurants. The cook makes the food and you pick up your food. Every fast food restaurant already does this. Walking the 20 steps from the kitchen to your table adds no value to the interaction, and may even be negative value if they bottleneck the service rate.
@@bububu3091I agree with you. The cook doesn’t have time to answer all your questions or take down all your dietary restrictions lol. OP must be antisocial or have not worked in the restaurant industry
The question "do you prefer a service charge over a tip" is a false choice.... the business could also just raise the actual price of the product/service to cover their costs. It's when a business says "this is the price" and then come in later with "hidden fees"... THAT is really what is pissing everyone off about everything across the board
Danny Meyer did no tipping and pay a living wage at his 11 New York City restaurant. The customers loved it but he lost his servers because their pay dropped so much so he had to go back to the old system.
@@mariee.5912 I don't know about that... I was just in Colombia and tips were optional and not expected. Maybe your experience was because they saw you as a estadounidense and we are known for this tipping culture.
I've been trying to normalize 10-15% tips. I'm tired of feeling shamed or pressured into giving 15-20%+ and no longer feel shamed for it after practicing 10-15% tips. I haven't seen any change in server/owner behavior. They are always appreciative. Food prices have already gone up - and with it, tip amounts, by nature of percentages. Why should the tip % go up (or be based on the food price)?
Because businesses have profit margins - and they are already extremly low... if they dont charge more or make more money and expenses go up the business will fail.
@@JosiahMatthews But we aint tippin the bussiness... Were tippin the folks workin at that bussiness. In any case... Its obvious that bussiness makin a shitload of profits can easily pay their workers / wage slaves enough that they wouldnt need tips just to make it. They just dont wanna do it.
As a tipped employee for over 20+ years I can tell you tipping is by obligation and not on service. They know you'll feel bad and leave a tip on services you wouldn't normally tip on.
A server took our order and a robot delivered the food. We moved the plates from the robot tray to our table. The receipt had a mandatory tip exactly like they had before they started using these robots. Soon we will have robots taking orders and we will be tipping robots (the owners of the establishment) Unbelievable!!!
Being asked to tip above the price of goods for the pleasure of engaging in commerce is weird to me. Things I do: 1) Avoid businesses that add surcharges to bills or tack on auto-gratuity of 18%+ 2) Order take-out as that way you are not being bullied to tip. 3) If I do go to a sit-down restaurant AND the service is good, tip 15% only on the subtotal (pre-tax) amount. Tipping 15% on top of the government's taxes is a waste of money.
thank you for making a video about this. I always find tipping culture ridiculous. really it was reinforced so the employer wouldn't pay the workers a decent base wage. I don't see why I want to encourage such exploitation behavior.
Why should l " tip " more for someone bringing me 4 plates of food and a few drinks than l get for driving a 44 ton truck and operating heavy machinery per hour ?
If anyone deserves a tip, it's those who risk their health and lives to save ours: healthcare workers, police, firefighters etc. Not the guy who thinks turning around to pour your coffee into a cup is worth a $2 tip.
I agree on the $2 coffee guy but I don't think we should tip healthcare workers, police etc. They already get paid well above the minimal wage and those services are considered necessities. Typically tipping is for hospitality services with our discretionary spending.
Police have FANTASTIC pay and benefits. Agree with the rest, but they don't need tips. They need to paid a hell of a lot more, instead of their value being guzzled up as empty profits for the suits.
I only go to resturants that take tips, at my parents home and its places ive been going to for more than a decade. I just learned to cook most things. Most meals only take an hour tops, and that's traffic and waiting right there.
I tip well for good service and I don't tip on those to go orders. I hate when they flip the screen and there are tip suggestions. I just press none and move on with my day.
As a general rule... I base the amount I tip on what I can afford and how good the service was. Havin said that... I determine the worth of the service based on the persons attitude and my perception of their work ethic.
Hate mandatory service charges, just be honest and raise the menu prices. Don't scam after the bill arrives. Since even if its in fine print on the menu you wont see it until after you've already been seated so its awkward to walk out.
At this point if I’m not sitting or getting things delivered I ain’t tipping and when I’m sitting I just calculate the taxes and add in the number manually it’s ridiculous
To stop the confusion, and inflated tips, I stopped going out to restaurants except very occasionally. Much more likely to find more affordable options at the deli counter at the grocery store. This in turn results in cost cutting measures such as a kiosk for orders, phone aps to enter orders, etc, replacing workers.
I have stopped going anywhere that includes tipping. I occasionally order out and pick it up myself. I don’t order delivery food. I don’t have the budget and I have no time for the attitude. So now they get zero from me.
I spent over 20 years being a server. I stopped when most restaurants started to make the Server tip out the busser, bartender, and Hostess. Doing that took everything that I made on mosts days.
Restaurants are somewhat necessary because people travel and don't always have access to time or facilities to prepare their own food. That said, there's way more of them than there need to be.
I don't go out to eat in the US. I don't miss anything, those mediocre food, high tips, I stay abroad half of the year anyway. That's when I enjoy going out to eat.
My first job as a groundskeeper in 1987... I got paid $3.35 an hour which was the minimum wage at the time. Even with the cost of livin what it was back then... I seriously doubt I coulda made it on my own.
It causes me to do much less business. Your price is your price unless I feel driven to do more. If you have to ask or suggest a tip, good chance you didn't earn it.
I dont drink and it's really interesting to see diversity in service. A lot of servers will figure "I'm not going to come back often or give them service because money is not here" While this isn't every time it is interesting to see some servers give exceptional service and follow up equally with other tables. I tip appropriately to service given. If the server gives exceptional service I give a dollar amount tip vs what my bill indicates.
As an Uber driver there is not doubt, the working poor are ALWAYS more generous than the wealthier clients. This goes against the hypothesis of this video.
Mathematically speaking, the current US tipping system is effectively a ~20% tax on empathy. Or stated another way, it incentivizes being an asshole by providing a ~20% discount for antisocial behaviour.
Another industry that relies on tips is the casino industry. We call them "tokes", short for "token of appreciation." Table game dealers rely solely on tips to make a living, since the minimum wage really only covers taxes. The hourly base pay ranges from $4-8 at the casinos around me.
I only tip if I know that if I didn't that person wouldn't make at least minimum wage, For example servers, Door dash drivers. I don't tip baristas who get hourly that reaches minimum wage or higher
Tipping in general is just asinine and needs to go. A tip prompt just exposes an employer as a scumbag who financially abuses their staff. How are they not embarrassed? More importantly, why does everyone support this? #endtipping
I try to avoid going to restaurants at all. Just buy some good ingredients or ready to serve meals from grocery and eat at home. Let the whole system bust.
If business owners cannot afford to pay their workers a living wage, they can't afford to be in business. They shouldn't expect their customers to make up the difference between low and living wages!
I tend to not believe what folks are sayin about the need to increase prices to pay workers more... Maybe its true for small companies... But for the bigger corporations... Im thinkin theyre makin enough that they can actually maintain the same level of cost and still pay their workers a livin wage.
I will tip at a sit down restaurant, tip my barber, massage therapist, valet parkers, and bellhops. As far as tipping anywhere else like Starbucks, Duncan Doughnuts, etc. Nope. The real irritant at a couple places. Placing an order at a kiosk and it asks if I want to tip...
My family are big tippers because we feel guilty. But how do we fix this while not punishing service workers? Also, people's habits changed due to lockdowns. My family order take out and rarely sit down in restaurants. But we still tip 20%.
@CrAzYnAdEz I order and pay online. I drive and go inside to pick up my food. The problem is that when I pay online, the options are 20, 22, 25% or nothing.
@@foodlover8151 Oh really! I usually pay inside when I pick it up. I usually write $1 tip on the receipt. Personally I don't think even a $1 tip is justified but I don't like to cross it out in front of the cashier. lol I guess you can always put no tip online and just give em a dollar in cash in person or just pay in person instead of online. Even putting 0 tip should be fine if you order online because 0humans are providing you a personal service if you do it online.
Tips should be earned for good service, not expected. Sadly our food in restaurants is much more expensive than in other countries and then we are expected to pay 20% or more on top of that. It’s not my responsibility to pay the wages of company’s employees of top of the built in profits.
And those shaming people for being cheap are part the problem. Corperations have no issue being cheap when they see fit
Its always just establishment owners pitting their employees against customers in a war to harrang and harass you for cash they won't pay. I stop going to places with electronic tipping for stuff that isn't service, because they're clearly disgustingly fat to the point of insanity on other people money and don't need me.
There you have it. Debate over.
I used to eat out as a treat a couple of times a week, but I no longer do because of the incessant expectation of tips from everyone, everywhere. I don’t need the annoyance.
He hits the nail on the head when he says that tips have zero correlation to the quality of the service or how hard the employee in question works. If that was actually the case then the guy in the dish pit would be going home with $1000 in cash every night, because in every restaurant I've ever worked in, without exception, the hardest working employee was always the dishwasher. Not a chef, not a server, certainly not a bartender, although most of them do grind hard; always the guy who's bussing tables and washing dishes and staying late after the end of service to unload the purveyors' trucks and stock the pantry and walk-in.
Anyway, the biggest thing I don't like about tipping is because it is not nor should it be my responsibility to pay the wages of someone else's employees.
Its almost like tipping began as them passing the buck to employees, which they were willing to take, due to circumstances, but then in they passed it over to you. If anyone in any establishment ever gives me shit for not tipping, I immediately become Bill Murray obnoxious and cause a scene, and they totally deserve it. In no world is it okay for employees to beg me like panhandlers just because food was involved.
@@shoopoop21if you don’t agree with it, then it sounds like you should only have home cooked meals or to go options lol
Dishwashing was the worst job I've ever had. Absolutely miserable. It's loud, you have no time to rest, you spend the whole day soaking your hands in gross, scalding hot water and chemicals that literally say on the bottle that they shouldn't come in contact with skin, there's always the risk that a knife or a blade of some sort made its way into the water without you noticing, you're probably going to end up working late unless you're really fast, and it pays absolute shit. I remember scrubbing dishes and doing the math in my head and crying when I realized how many hours of this shit I had to work in order to pay my (very low) rent.
@@laurenmc4032 nope. Employee salary is the responsibility of the employer. Not the customer. Do teachers get tips? And if we don’t tip they can tell you to keep your kids at home? No. Because they are paid by their schools. Just like servers should be paid by the restaurants. Restaurant owners want customers and servers to continue arguing about this when it always should come back to the OWNER being responsible for paying their employees.
Yep, plenty of countries having little to no tip culture and the service is just fine
Tip at sit down restaurants not Starbucks
Why the distinction? both jobs require a similar level of skill and require a similar level of effort
@@CCP_Operative Because you are being continually served and checked on
@@johnsmith1953x Bringing a drink and a meal to my table. They only need to check once. Driving a bus would be more mentally taxing and of higher skill level
@@CCP_Operative I never tip at Starbucks nor McDonalds nor doing my own pickup at a restaurants. That's just stupid.
@@CCP_Operative Starbucks pools all of the tips and splits them among all the employees. Those less skilled are rewarded equally with those who are.
I would be much more likely to patronize a business that paid their workers a fair wage and had a no tipping policy.
Same. A well-enforced policy beats a voluntary contribution
Usually workers make more from tipping. I'd rather go to a restaurant that allows tipping and has far lower menu prices. I like tipping for good service because I like giving my service worker money directly and know shes getting my money directly.
@@Jon_Nadeau_ the business would still fail... resteraunts are already very low in profitability.
@@Jon_Nadeau_ why do servers complain about tips if they are making more than they would without?
@the1337fleet because people always want more and are typically ignorant. They often don't realize how good they have it until they loose it. That's why we have the saying "the grass isn't always greener on the other side"
I only give tips if I dine in because it involves service but when just grabbing a coffee to go, I just hit no tips. Thanks god this pressure doesn't work on me lol
I never tip.
I was in nyc last week and I watched 4 people before me hit no tip at the coffee shop.
@@bicgohill8756 thats how it’s done. Now the next issue is will those guys spit in your coffee for no tipping, that I can’t say..
Meanwhile in Japan, it's rude to tip and will run after you if you leave money lol
Such kind people 😅
Fantastic customer services for no tip. Honestly my favorite country to eat out at. Prices compaired to the US are great too.
I was eating at a restaurant and dropped a 5 yen coin and didn't notice, I had walked about a quarter mile when the owner came running after me to return a 5 yen coin. Now that is service
Japan has had its economy in stagnation since the late 80s. And they are some of the unhappiest people on earth.
I take issue with the fact that tip percentages keep growing over time. Inflation is already baked into the price of the meal, therefore tips go up proportionately if the percentage remains the same. By increasing the expected tip percentage, it means servers are now paid twice as much as they used to even after adjusting for inflation. And, it is the reason why servers can make hundreds of dollars a week even if they only work part-time. I've never bought into the sob story for the waiting industry given that wait staff often make 2-3x per hour what their minimum wage counterparts make. I'm not suggesting that these people are rich, but objectively speaking they are doing much better than other workers of similar education/skill levels.
If they are have trouble getting by on their income they are probably just working part time.
I have always been a tipper. I know how workers live off tips. Now I am being asked to tip when paying for gas 😂 I can't afford all this
Thats the real problem with tipping today that the video did not touch on. It's not the tipping percentage thats pissing people off. It's being asked to tip on things that you shouldn't be tipping for. For example tipping at a self checkout cashier as a drugstore? Why should I tip a machine? Or tipping when you order takeout and pickup the food yourself. I'm an uber eats driver but as a customer I'm not tipping someone to ring up the transaction at the counter. If your not waiting on me or delivering the food to my house then tipping shouldn't be required. In Boston there are bars that have people standing by the sinks asking for tips just to hand me a paper towel. Like seriously I'm not tipping to have someone hand me a paper towel. The services in these industries have been declining for years but tipping has been increasing.
Fuck the workers. Business owners can pay a living wage.
I rarely tip 😂
gas should be free then
I don't tip anymore because they have ran in into the ground. Do you think the restaurant cared about you when they raise the prices?
It’s so rampant that I refuse to tip anymore. Period. I’m not doing it. Unless for workers such as valet parkers, restaurant waitresses, pizza or food delivery drivers. That’s about it. The ones that required tipping back in the 90s
Coming from Germany this whole discussion seems wild and inhumane. Tipping should be a thanks for great service, you shouldn’t ever be obligated to tip. The minimum wage on the other hand is insanely low as well. With our current inflation, you should get at least 15$ per hour.
How about instead of raising minimum wages to something that will unemploy every non-educated worker, we just stop printing money for bailouts, foreign aid, and courting illegals?
Just stop.
In some countries, there is no tipping because they have a higher hourly rate. They’ll look at you like why are you tipping me.
That would be most countries, US tipping culture is insane.
In EU we don't usually tip, we may let them keep the change when we don't want to bother with it or we tip because we were served well
But there is no expectation from anyone that there will be a tip for any reason as workers are paid a decent wage
IKR!!
@@Aenion11Exactly! But if everyone stoped tipping in the US all the workers would look for new jobs. And then the companies would have to raise prices so they could pay real salaries, like we do in Europe.
Also remember the Unions are stronger in Europe, than the US.
Not just some countries, it's most countries in the world.
higher hourly rate or lower tax, insurance, rent, healthcare, student loan debt, gas price etc
The tipping culture has changed so much. Businesses are now demanding tips when no service is involved. It's time to end corporate greed and make businesses PAY their workers! Americans need to band together and start a no tip movement!! NO MORE TIPPING!!
When I visited Europe, there was not even a line on the receipt to add a tip when using a credit card. I thought that was great!
It infuriates me that US restaurants have their easy select tip options and often the smallest percent is 18 or even 20%. NO I refuse 10% is good service 15% is great service which barely exists and the overall bill matters meaning this will swing widely based on time and effort. If I buy a $1000 bottle of wine and that's it, baring the server performed a magic show for me expect $20. If I order a $5 beer and that's it but take your table expect about a $5 tip.
Giving tip is wrong, unless you are at the receiving side😅
no worker should expect tips if your wages are not enough you ask for a raise or get a new job or go back to school
Excellent analysis. “IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO TIP 25% YOU SHOULDN’T GO OUT TO EAT”. HOW STUPID! IF PEOPLE DIDN’T GO OUT TO EAT RESTAURANTS WOULD CLOSE AND SERVERS WOULDN’T HAVE A JOB!
I would pass a law that says the tip must be included in the base price. The price I see should be the price I pay.
Some law about putting all those extra charges.
Some restaurants also CHARGE additional % BOH (back of house) included in your bill. Plus expected 20% tip. In Europe, no tipping that's because they pay their restaurant staff and all have health insurance. Restaurant workers here rarely get benefits.
In France the service charge is included
If informed by the server, I would walk out. If not informed, I would give zero tip. If after searching, this is not publicly written on theirmenus, I would refuse to pay. Problem solved.
After living in other countries I seen how backwards tipping was. It invites so many taboo superstitious perspective of, “what affects my tip” vs a company just providing good service.
Don’t forget the service industry going against tipping isn’t likely because it’s an agreement between the employer and employee to exploit the consumer. Some places require reporting tips but cash tips aren’t always losing the taxable income a serve has aka they keep more.
Although I am a tipper, but I'm also European, so I see tips being appropriate only if the service was exiting job requirements, so even in Europe tipping is getting out of hand. The best example and approach is in Japan - they have the best service in the world and don't give or accept tips.
I'm one of those who has a negative impression of tipping, even though I worked in college as a server. I've entirely stopped tipping outside of traditionally tipped jobs. If they ask for a tip before I receive something, a sandwich, coffee, etc..the tip is zero. I'm so over the guilt portion of it. The other thing that changed is tipping on delivery. Initially, I tipped based on the price of the food. Then I realized that I was tipping more for Sushi than a burger even though both stores were next to each other. The service being provided is delivery and has nothing to do with the cost of the food. Now, I tip based on distance. I start a tip out at $3 for delivery and tip .5 per mile. If something is 4 miles away, they would get a $5 tip regardless of the cost of the food.
Did you make a good income a a server in college?
@@TheRealEdStoner I did do ok waiting tables in college. And that when a good tip was considered to be 10%. I did fine. Better per hour than those working accross the street at Burger King and MCDonalds In fact I quit that fast food to go accross the street to bus then wait tables. Back when 10% was good enough. Which then turned to 15% in the 80’s and 90’s. Then it became 20% in the 2000 -2010’s. Now they have been trying to make 23% to 28% the norm. This is when I quit dining out.
I'm so old I still remember when the "normal" full-service restaurant tip was 10%!
i refuse to tip 20% or higher.
tips should be a courtesy not a right.
the employer should pay their staff appropriately. anything over 20% while its nice for the person only feeds into an ever increasing monstrosity of a failed wage system.
25% my foot. 35% lol
40% get real!
I am willing to tip in restaurants where food is brought to my table, but I draw the line at being asked to tip at a self-service checkout or any restaurant where I have to go up to the counter and get my own food. Tipping is not supposed to apply to people who make the food, those people earn minimum wage. It's supposed to be for waiters and such. I think they rolled out a lot of new digital systems during the pandemic when people were tipping service people for bringing food out to their car, and somehow the expectation to keep doing it even though things are somewhat back to normal has "stuck," even though it now makes no sense because we are going up to the counter in person and getting our food.
Agreed! thats the problem right there. Being expected to tip on things that we typically wouldn't tip on. Now self checkouts are asking us to tip? Like really I'm not tipping a machine.
I visit the USA. Now I understood that I was expected to tip some people. OK different country and different standards. But recently when I look at these clips I am getting the idea that I am expected to pay a large tip for no service at all. There was even a suggestion that auto check outs at supermarkets were adding a tip to the bill. For whatever reason I cannot imagine. If I find that a starbucks won't make me a coffee without a tip it will be the last starbucks coffee I buy. I can do without the product and I can DEFINITELY do without the aggravation.
Coming from Asia, I found tipping in the US largely inefficient, especially when "optional" isn't really optional.
Tipping is 100% optional in America. A restaurant can't legally do anything to make you tip.
@@jamesm568 now in Washington state, some of the restaurants add 5% to your bill, print on your bill for "cook fee"
I no longer tip except in full service restaurants where the service is good.
Why America, just why?
Why can't you look around the rest of the world and see how they do things? and while you're doing that, why not look at how other places do healthcare, mandatory holiday, parental leave, worker's rights and funding higher education blah blah
When you get things right it's really good, but dear god in heaven when you fail at something it's so epic you don't even know where to start
When I worked at Panera Bread as a cashier I made only $8/hr and they very stricly did not allow us to accept tips. So I'm pretty salty about how ridiculous tipping culture has become
8 dollars an hour where do you live north korea damn
@@ilzium8210 California in 2013 🥲
it's not tipping culture, it's simply stupid decisions by your employers
Considerin the price of their food...
You shoulda been paid more.
I’ve been on both sides of tipping, it just makes the businesses pay less and since I know that I tip more, it’s very circular
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Your comment almost says nothing 😂
I boycotted Subway in 2021 because of this BS, already paying $12 for a disappointing sandwich and the machine telling me to tip 15%. Almost charged strangers to watch me eat the subway through the other hole to help cover the cost but I decided to just not eat their again.
Same. Likewise, some places I will only try to eat at if I have cash and just pay that way, since then I don't usually get the tip screen.
Come to Australia, we dont do tips. And workers are paid a fair wage.
Yeah but we were all watching videos of cops in your country choking woman out in broad daylight for not wearing a mask. Your police state is alarming
yeah , I wish man
Tipping self-checkouts WTF I'm doing all the work they should be tipping me 😂
Why are the wages of the service workers the customers problem? Is this what we've become as country? Shouldnt these workers be screaming to be unionized to give them a fair wage? Or are they so greedy, that they dont want that because they know they wont make as much as they would on a few good nights of tips? Personally, Im done going to restaurants that force gratuity. I do take out and I sure as shit aint tipping for that.
Nobody tips me, I am a teacher. So, I don't tip. I live in Stockholm, Sweden, Europe.
Parents were right all along there was food at home lol.
"Paying a server a living wage doesn't work!" falls apart when you look at restaurants in literally any other country but USA.
I pay for my meal or drink when ordering, checking that it corresponds with menu pricing. Any addons will embrassingly need to be disclosed by the owner at this point. If not satisfied, walk out.
I don't tip by computer. I do tip waiters, waitresses, taxi cab drivers, barbers, and musicians, but I don't pay someone just to take my money, and I don't do Venmo. I only tip with cash. The amount I tip has nothing to do whether my server is male or female, black or white or Hispanic or Asian, old or young, beautiful or ugly, with a big chest or little chest. It has to do with how the server treats me, and how good a job he or she does for me..
I feel absolutely no pressure for not shoveling my money at another person for doing the job they are getting a check for doing. A tip is a generosity, not an obligation. Period. They can swing that tablet around as much as they like. I'll tip IF I wish, and if I do wish, I'll tip HOW MUCH I want. Also, I don't tip based on a % of the check, that's crazy.
Servers are actually entirely unnecessary labour. You can easily remove them and still have well functioning restaurants. The cook makes the food and you pick up your food. Every fast food restaurant already does this. Walking the 20 steps from the kitchen to your table adds no value to the interaction, and may even be negative value if they bottleneck the service rate.
I have said this for years! Thank you for reiterating this point!!
Sooo many time waiters made full experience better for me , world where we gonna have robots soon doing this I stop eating out , ridiculous 😢
@@bububu3091I agree with you. The cook doesn’t have time to answer all your questions or take down all your dietary restrictions lol. OP must be antisocial or have not worked in the restaurant industry
The question "do you prefer a service charge over a tip" is a false choice.... the business could also just raise the actual price of the product/service to cover their costs. It's when a business says "this is the price" and then come in later with "hidden fees"... THAT is really what is pissing everyone off about everything across the board
Danny Meyer did no tipping and pay a living wage at his 11 New York City restaurant. The customers loved it but he lost his servers because their pay dropped so much so he had to go back to the old system.
@@TheRealEdStoner Then they were overpaid. And likely not declaring all their tips as income.
@@carolr7823 the goal of most tipped people is to make people believe they live close to poverty. It seems to work.
I don't understand WHY we are the only country in the world that has a tipping system to begin with 🙄🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
Are you sure about that?? I have been in Mexico and Colombia and you have to tip in those countries.
We're the only developed country that does a lot of stupid things. We're the country that fell for all the scams.
@@mariee.5912 I don't know about that... I was just in Colombia and tips were optional and not expected. Maybe your experience was because they saw you as a estadounidense and we are known for this tipping culture.
I just outright NOT eat out. Fast food is the first place to be crossed out for being overpriced.
I've been trying to normalize 10-15% tips. I'm tired of feeling shamed or pressured into giving 15-20%+ and no longer feel shamed for it after practicing 10-15% tips. I haven't seen any change in server/owner behavior. They are always appreciative.
Food prices have already gone up - and with it, tip amounts, by nature of percentages. Why should the tip % go up (or be based on the food price)?
Because businesses have profit margins - and they are already extremly low... if they dont charge more or make more money and expenses go up the business will fail.
@@JosiahMatthews
But we aint tippin the bussiness...
Were tippin the folks workin at that bussiness.
In any case...
Its obvious that bussiness makin a shitload of profits can easily pay
their workers / wage slaves enough that they wouldnt need tips just to make it.
They just dont wanna do it.
As a tipped employee for over 20+ years I can tell you tipping is by obligation and not on service. They know you'll feel bad and leave a tip on services you wouldn't normally tip on.
A server took our order and a robot delivered the food. We moved the plates from the robot tray to our table. The receipt had a mandatory tip exactly like they had before they started using these robots. Soon we will have robots taking orders and we will be tipping robots (the owners of the establishment) Unbelievable!!!
Being asked to tip above the price of goods for the pleasure of engaging in commerce is weird to me. Things I do:
1) Avoid businesses that add surcharges to bills or tack on auto-gratuity of 18%+
2) Order take-out as that way you are not being bullied to tip.
3) If I do go to a sit-down restaurant AND the service is good, tip 15% only on the subtotal (pre-tax) amount. Tipping 15% on top of the government's taxes is a waste of money.
I was at a fast food place, entered my order on a kiosk, and was asked to tip. Tip who?! The fkn robot?! No I will not.
thank you for making a video about this. I always find tipping culture ridiculous. really it was reinforced so the employer wouldn't pay the workers a decent base wage. I don't see why I want to encourage such exploitation behavior.
Why should l " tip " more for someone bringing me 4 plates of food and a few drinks than l get for driving a 44 ton truck and operating heavy machinery per hour ?
If anyone deserves a tip, it's those who risk their health and lives to save ours: healthcare workers, police, firefighters etc. Not the guy who thinks turning around to pour your coffee into a cup is worth a $2 tip.
I agree on the $2 coffee guy but I don't think we should tip healthcare workers, police etc. They already get paid well above the minimal wage and those services are considered necessities. Typically tipping is for hospitality services with our discretionary spending.
Police have FANTASTIC pay and benefits. Agree with the rest, but they don't need tips. They need to paid a hell of a lot more, instead of their value being guzzled up as empty profits for the suits.
In Switzerland they don't tip at all because workers make good wage. Tips only come for exceptional service! Not for just doing their job!
I only go to resturants that take tips, at my parents home and its places ive been going to for more than a decade. I just learned to cook most things. Most meals only take an hour tops, and that's traffic and waiting right there.
Tell that to the chairman and board of directors who are hoarding all the money!
I tip well for good service and I don't tip on those to go orders. I hate when they flip the screen and there are tip suggestions. I just press none and move on with my day.
As a general rule...
I base the amount I tip on what I can afford and how good the service was.
Havin said that...
I determine the worth of the service based on the persons attitude and my perception of their work ethic.
Hate mandatory service charges, just be honest and raise the menu prices. Don't scam after the bill arrives. Since even if its in fine print on the menu you wont see it until after you've already been seated so its awkward to walk out.
At this point if I’m not sitting or getting things delivered I ain’t tipping and when I’m sitting I just calculate the taxes and add in the number manually it’s ridiculous
how is carrying lobster or fries any different? all you can eat servers should be paid or tipped by item not percentage
Exactly, the fact that the tip amount is tied to the bill is a joke. Tipping resembles a tax and boy do I hate taxes.
it is because of tip credit not other things. owner can reduce a lot of tax using tip credit. :)
To stop the confusion, and inflated tips, I stopped going out to restaurants except very occasionally. Much more likely to find more affordable options at the deli counter at the grocery store. This in turn results in cost cutting measures such as a kiosk for orders, phone aps to enter orders, etc, replacing workers.
Just pay your workers. 🤦🏻♂️
I have stopped going anywhere that includes tipping. I occasionally order out and pick it up myself. I don’t order delivery food. I don’t have the budget and I have no time for the attitude. So now they get zero from me.
this is why i refuse to tip i kinda felt like this would only get worse
the only time i tipped was because i ws pressured to no choice during a school outing thats it it only cemented my ironckad determination to never tip
I spent over 20 years being a server. I stopped when most restaurants started to make the Server tip out the busser, bartender, and Hostess. Doing that took everything that I made on mosts days.
No tip for coffee, bakery and deli. Only tip 2 things sit down reastourants and haircuts. I smile when I give o tips for everybody else.
I’m a tipper, but I’m sorry I’m not tipping at the ice cream shop😂 because you scooped the ice cream and handed it to me?
Tipping: First-world's biggest problem. 😂
I don't even tip. I just eat at home. It's cheaper. LOLs. For those who can't cook. instant ramen, sandwich, or microwave
Restaurants are somewhat necessary because people travel and don't always have access to time or facilities to prepare their own food. That said, there's way more of them than there need to be.
I don't go out to eat in the US. I don't miss anything, those mediocre food, high tips, I stay abroad half of the year anyway. That's when I enjoy going out to eat.
I always pay w CASH NOW, IT FREAKS THEM OUT, LOVE IT!!! CASH IS QUEEN/KING
I wish more people would only pay in cash
I don't want to see a cashless society
My first job as a groundskeeper in 1987...
I got paid $3.35 an hour which was the minimum wage at the time.
Even with the cost of livin what it was back then...
I seriously doubt I coulda made it on my own.
It causes me to do much less business. Your price is your price unless I feel driven to do more. If you have to ask or suggest a tip, good chance you didn't earn it.
Tipping is a scam
It’s about time all USA consumers just temporarily stopped tipping altogether until companies pay their damn workers properly
If waiters deserve tips shouldnt we give retail workers tips? I dont believe in tipping at all tbh for anything other than as a thank you
I dont drink and it's really interesting to see diversity in service.
A lot of servers will figure "I'm not going to come back often or give them service because money is not here"
While this isn't every time it is interesting to see some servers give exceptional service and follow up equally with other tables. I tip appropriately to service given.
If the server gives exceptional service I give a dollar amount tip vs what my bill indicates.
As an Uber driver there is not doubt, the working poor are ALWAYS more generous than the wealthier clients. This goes against the hypothesis of this video.
Yea, but you are a driver. Why would you be tipped?
So extremely well put, thx for the video.
Some servers make $50-60/hr, they are overpaid. I went to Japan and food was half the price of the US and no tipping. I'm not rich, I'm done tipping.
I only tip if I’m being served. By the way who comes up with this tip percentage ?
Mathematically speaking, the current US tipping system is effectively a ~20% tax on empathy. Or stated another way, it incentivizes being an asshole by providing a ~20% discount for antisocial behaviour.
Need to travel to Asia to avoid this tipping fiasco
Another industry that relies on tips is the casino industry. We call them "tokes", short for "token of appreciation." Table game dealers rely solely on tips to make a living, since the minimum wage really only covers taxes. The hourly base pay ranges from $4-8 at the casinos around me.
Tipping causes inflation. The tips just go to the landlord anyway.
I only tip if I know that if I didn't that person wouldn't make at least minimum wage, For example servers, Door dash drivers. I don't tip baristas who get hourly that reaches minimum wage or higher
It's not game theory. The lobby group for the restaurant industry consistently fights raising staff wages to minimum wage.
Tipping in general is just asinine and needs to go. A tip prompt just exposes an employer as a scumbag who financially abuses their staff. How are they not embarrassed? More importantly, why does everyone support this? #endtipping
I refuse to go to places for takeout that request a tip so they have lost my business
I try to avoid going to restaurants at all. Just buy some good ingredients or ready to serve meals from grocery and eat at home. Let the whole system bust.
If business owners cannot afford to pay their workers a living wage, they can't afford to be in business. They shouldn't expect their customers to make up the difference between low and living wages!
I tend to not believe what folks are sayin about the need
to increase prices to pay workers more...
Maybe its true for small companies...
But for the bigger corporations...
Im thinkin theyre makin enough that they can actually maintain
the same level of cost and still pay their workers a livin wage.
just TAP NO TIP!!!! And have no shame. Time to end this craziness.
This is why i love cooking my own food and making my own drinks. #serveyourself
I will tip at a sit down restaurant, tip my barber, massage therapist, valet parkers, and bellhops.
As far as tipping anywhere else like Starbucks, Duncan Doughnuts, etc. Nope.
The real irritant at a couple places. Placing an order at a kiosk and it asks if I want to tip...
My family are big tippers because we feel guilty. But how do we fix this while not punishing service workers? Also, people's habits changed due to lockdowns. My family order take out and rarely sit down in restaurants. But we still tip 20%.
Go after the businesses.
You shouldn't have to tip for take out unless they are delivering the order to your house. At most tip a couple of bucks.
@CrAzYnAdEz I order and pay online. I drive and go inside to pick up my food. The problem is that when I pay online, the options are 20, 22, 25% or nothing.
@@foodlover8151 Oh really! I usually pay inside when I pick it up. I usually write $1 tip on the receipt. Personally I don't think even a $1 tip is justified but I don't like to cross it out in front of the cashier. lol I guess you can always put no tip online and just give em a dollar in cash in person or just pay in person instead of online. Even putting 0 tip should be fine if you order online because 0humans are providing you a personal service if you do it online.
@@foodlover8151 no tip is required when you order take out and pick it up yourself.
Split the difference raise prices and lower tip rates.
Keep in mind, at a restaurant, you're not just tipping the waiter, you're also tipping the kitchen.
Tips should be earned for good service, not expected. Sadly our food in restaurants is much more expensive than in other countries and then we are expected to pay 20% or more on top of that. It’s not my responsibility to pay the wages of company’s employees of top of the built in profits.