Am I Really Allowed to Open Carry My Firearm in Washington State?
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2021
- Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discusses the law of open carry of a firearm in Washington State. We discuss the laws surrounding open carry and the many geographical restrictions placed on lawful and responsible gun owners by various statutes. We also discuss the manner in which you can and cannot open carry a firearm.
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Applicable Statutes:
RCW 9.41.040. app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.as...
RCW 9.41.050. app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.as...
RCW 9.41.270. app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.as...
RCW 9.41.280. app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.as...
RCW 9.41.282. app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.as...
RCW 9.41.300. app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.as...
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I've never understood how CCW laws aren't the clearest violation of the FOURTH amendment, without any regards to the second...
And 1st and 3rd... maybe 8th
I plead the 5th
Thank you very much , very insightful . Bought a pistol recently for self protection for myself and significant other and I never got a clear answer on what was okay and what wasn't . Very appreciated !
These are great videos. No nonsense, and to the point.
Very helpful… Thank you. I knew about the auto and children and governing areas. The others are also good to know.
thank you for this video, very informative.
Just searched thru all washington state's rcws. They were extremely vague on open carry. Their job is to inform the public of laws. Not just enforce them
we need schools to fully educate students about the 25 functioning US Constitution Amendments. for our future and our kids future. In school we learned not even half of it.
And the bill of rights first 10 amendments can not be amended or repealed.
30 years LEO here. First, thanks for the video. A lot of great info. Having rubbed elbows with the less than savory for three decades as a Cop open carry is not something I choose to do. The absolute last thing I want a crook to know is I am strapped. Sure, the sight of someone wearing a pistol might scare away some lower offenders but in my opinion it makes you a target for the hardcore crooks. I saw a pic of a guy wearing a pistol stuck in his belt at a Subway. As he is concentrating on whether he wants his sandwich toasted or not a hardcore armed felon could come in, see the gun and think he is has entered a bonus round. Not only does he get the register money, he gets a gun as a bonus. Those of you who think they can pull and beat an armed suspect already pointing a gun at you are in a dream world.
The second crook is the one who sees you carrying and follows you. Eventually you get to a place you can’t open carry and you have to leave your piece in the car. As you are getting your FroYo with sprinkles the crook breaks into you car and takes your gun.
Carrying a firearm is about personal and weapon security. The less people who know you have a gun the better. Open carry takes away your ability to surprise an assailant and lets the bad guys know where there is a gun to steal. In this old Law Dog’s opinion, if you are willing to degrade you own safety by displaying a weapon just to “own the Libs” you are in effect shooting yourself in the foot.
Great comment, on top of this, are the violent criminals really concerned with following the law or are they going to conceal so they can get an edge? So the restrictions against conceal largely hurt the good guy.
Well stated. I am a liberal, but I believe in pragmatism. I appreciate your very reasonable assessment and insight.
@@melinazhang6007 Hahaha, a pragmatic liberal? Ive lived in Seattle long enough to know that's impossible. Youre either 1 or the other, cant be both! The philosophies are diametrically opposed!
@@dustins382 that's why you can't do it many times
@@bennydave4160 can't do what many times? Open carry or get away with crime?
Wow, your new videos are so much better quality.
I think it's important to include casinos in the restricted list since we do have a good amount of them in PNW(which yes are part of liquor control). Some casino establishments have attached hotels and some of the casino/hotels consider the hotel part of the casino and don't allow Firearms. Example- The Angel of the Winds casino/hotel does not allow Firearms in either sections. But Tulalip Resort and Casino do offer a safe that is outside of your room but that is accessed only by Casino Security (under specific watch by control) at the request of the hotel side for storage if a long gun/handgun. You can store handguns and ammunition in your hotel room. There was never a minimum or max amount of ammo or number of firearms discussed while I was working at that property. Of course this was meant for the hotel guests specifically but I have seen a casino guest voluntarily give his EDC for storage while he gambled, which they gladly stored it for them. They were escorted to the safe and in Clear view of control and while unholstering it, removing mag and keeping pointed at the ground. They allow you to unchamber and allow you to put into the safe.
Oh I remember the days where you use to record your videos with a potato and with a "hostage" microphone. Love your content man, just giving you a hard time.
Easy yes you are i do it all the time ive even had icounters with the sherrif and it was lovely 🙂
So open carry a gun near a person that feels threatened by the presence of a gun is a crime? Thats ludicrous.
thank you for this video. very informative
Washington citizens sure are losing their gun rights. That's why I moved to Idaho for Second Amendment freedoms.
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@@dronus You're just delaying the inevitable. The libs, fleeing the messes they have made in their current residences, have already messed up Spokane and other parts of eastern Washington. Boise and Coeur d'Alene are not far behind. They concentrate in the cities and, from there, rule (mess up) vast swaths of the rest of the states. The rural communities hardly know what hit them and it seems that one moment they are free and the next, they are not.
@@ShanLiB oh thats good. I dont live in the cities. Delaying the inevitable are for those that care, I don't give a shit. I don't need a gun. Just gimme chicken shit 😋
What good is an empty firearm against a car jacker I wonder? Tell them to hang on a second I guess I think not.
So educational, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for making a video and uploading it to such an accessible platform. Ever since COVID, or even a few years prior, it's been nearly impossible to find information using search engines. The only results I get are anti-gun rhetoric and articles about tragic misuse of firearms. I asked my attorney some simple questions about our local laws a couple years back, and turns out he doesn't support gun use at all so he just told me I'd have to find someone who specializes in this field. Like, my man, you're literally an attorney, turning down my money. So thanks to people like you who actually look out for your people. Hope you're doing well and may the wind be ever at your back.
What about open carrying in the countryside on public lands - like national/state parks/forests… in the past, I’ve encountered armed people on the pacific crest trail and enchantment lakes trail out of Leavenworth. Holstered in all cases. Didn’t bother me, but I rather imagine some would get pretty freaked these days if they encountered a lone hiker with a 10mm in a cross-draw chest holster for example. There are times I’ve wanted to carry an 1895 carbine on hikes for the hell of it, but haven’t just to avoid any weirdness with people or even with rangers who might take issue with something. When I hike now, I always carry concealed (with CPL) for this reason, but it is a pain because the center chest holster is the most convenient carry mode when running a frame pack.
I’d also add that I have >10 round pistol mags purchased before the ban, but I’m hesitant to hike with them for fear of a law enforcement officer or ranger raking me over the coals. Does a person have to dredge up and have the receipts on hand to prove they’re legit? Or is that only scrutinized in the context of buying or selling the magazines. I avoid the whole thing by running
It’s confusing when you have to open carry and then get into your car you have to unload your gun and leave it on your hip showing
You can put it in a box in your car as long as it's unloaded
I think it is extra important we do things like open carry in places where we know residents are extra sensitive. They need to get comfortable with the fact that open carry is lawful. And quite frankly, f&$% their feelings. I won't change my behavior for their feelings and I shouldn't be asked to. If the store we are in gets robbed I will happily save their life the way I would my own daughter so I really don't care if my gun scares them.
Yes sir 100% agree. I live in Seattle and do this I don’t care. Just like playing my Mexican music will don’t unite to do it. God bless America
IAN IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT..You don't "bow down" because someone else shizs bricks when they see a law abiding citizen 'open carry'.No Debate..90% of people who don't 'like' guns, wish you were there if some shitz go down..
For real I went to the marathon gas station in Olympia and the chick told me I had to have a license to have the gun I said nope it's constitutional carry state look it up you're wrong turned into a stupid ordeal honestly
@@boris5693 in glad you taught someone something new but it's important we get that info exactly correct. This is an open carry state. It is not a constitutional carry state. They allow us (their thought not mine, it's a right) to open carry. They require us to get permission to conceal carry. However, Thanks to Bruen, it will only take one person getting "caught" concealed carrying without a license, willing and able to push the issue, and this could be forced by the appeals court to be a constitutional carry state or the Supreme Court could force the country to be a constitutional carry country. Meanwhile I believe there are 26 states that have wording in their law that reinforces their citizens right to "bear" arms. Washington is not one. I personally haven't renewed my ccp in like 10 years...
@@boris5693Washington is not a constitutional carry state. Your comment makes no sense.
I open carry because it takes over 7 months to get a CPL in Washington, yea it makes people uncomfortable but I dont care, i dont have a choice
It took me 2 weeks the first time and it has only taken 1 week to get my renewal cards. I have had a CPL for 21 years but I am in Eastern Washington.
Oh one more thing I am fine with Open Carry for any good reason like "I want to." I open carry when I do not feel like putting on a cover garmet.
I just applied for mine last week. It'll be here in two weeks, thats what I was told. In skagit.
I did mine via King county sheriff office in downtown Seattle. Got mine within a few weeks
Washington is a shall issue state. They have 30 days to issue if you have lived here for 90 days and have a valid washington state ID. They have 60 days if not. RCW 9.41.070 is very clear.
If I am hiking in Washington state with a pistol, that has a magazine above a capacity of 10 rounds that was obtained before the ban, can I still open carry that pistol? (as a non resident who is visiting)
I live in Oregon and I open carry every day and have for over 20 years and did for over 25 while living in Washington State, where I was born and served time as a Reserve Police Officer for the city and the county. I make a yearly trip, every summer, to Washington for a family get together. I am licensed in Oregon and remove my pistol/unload just before entering Washington. When I get to my destination, I reload it and open carry while there, not for show, not for anything else but self defense for me and fellow citizens. I do not have a CPL for Washington and this is the only way to do it lawfully, my destination is only 28 miles across the river, and I will not take the chance of breaking the law and losing any of my 2nd Amendment rights for that hop, skip and jump! There are many opinions about Open Carry vs Concealed and that is all they are…Opinions…every one has one and not all agree. So, Do what you feel comfortable and safe with, know the laws and live the way you want..your Constitutional Rights do not end where others opinions begin….
Love that last line👏
Can I drive with my pistol in the front of my car with the magazine separate from the pistol?
@pnw224 Are you asking about Oregon or Washington? I wouldn't do either without a CHL or CWP..If you get caught with a loaded magazine out of the gun and both are in reach of the driver, it could be up to" officer discretion" and considered loaded...both States I believe, for vehicle transport without a CHL or CWP require the pistol to be locked or stored in an opaque container out of reach of the driver and preferably out of sight....the ammunition stored separately. However, as strict as oregon is with its CHL... There are no such laws on the books about rifles or shotguns... They can be loaded, and you are not breaking any laws if your favorite AR or shotgun are in your vehicle and loaded.
@@Elvis19771 Washington. Thank you for the info tho!
Another wonderful, useful video. I had to comment to help with the algorithm.
Thank you very much for your support.
2nd amendment says 'shall not be infringed upon'... so... what are all these infringments?
It’s gonna get worse
Pure Democrat BS, that's what they are.
Every right has limits.
@@zachansen8293says every leftist politician
Communism from the left ,. Google: Yuri bezmenov about what their plans for America have been and what the liberal party has been doing to destroy rights and much more of the individual.
I’ll never forget in seattle seeing a guy in a cowboy hat open carrying his single action army at mcdonalds 😂 god bless em
Did came with 🐎 Horse from MONTANA. 😅😅😅😅😅
That’s super cringe actually
@@blacktootherson Why is that cringe?
@@Chrisicola a gun shouldn’t be played with like a toy. That’s what children do (I’m a gun owner btw)
@@blacktootherson Agreed. I take gun ownership extremely seriously (it's a huge responsibility), but why is a person open carrying (aka holstered weapon) at Mcdonalds cringe if he's just getting something to eat in an open carry state? Open carry doesn't mean he's playing with it, or holding it. lol.
Carry an empty holster to Costco in Federal Way and Issaquah Wa. Totally different response.
What’s wrong with carrying at Costco?
Basically RCW 9.41.270 makes it illegal to open carry in WA. Because the 1st paragraph clearly states "Shall be unlawfully for any person to carry, exhibit, display" which in WA, is the part used against most individual in prosecution. the 2nd part which you highlighted, is vague at best. what does manner exactly mean? under circumstance, again what does that mean, specially since one minute it could be legal & a second later illegal? manifests an intent, again you could be standing in on a street then someone wakes up & boom you are showing intent to intimidate in their eyes & finally warrants alarm, what does that mean, because what warrants alarm for one person, doesn't warrant alarm for another.
WA, want to brag about open carry, just because they don't have a law that out right bans it, even tho they have plenty of secondary laws that make it illegal to open carry.
Thanks, for the video. Question. You didn't address whether or not you can Open Carry (loaded) in a public place. thanks
i paid and applied for a ccp in june , and the closest appt day is in march of 2022.
Ouch
Courts are no different. They've been giving a middle finger to justice for the last 2 years thanks to Xi Xinping
Thanks for clarifying
What are my rights when I open carrying lawfully and are harassed by other shoppers or they famous yell he's got a gun when iv done nothing wrong other than just going about my business shopping etc it does happen what are our legal rights as far as someone else causing a disturbance in public. iv tried to conceal carry to avoid this unpleasant situation it's just to uncomfortable and I have a hard time doing it for my body type
What about national parks or public hiking trails?
National Parks are covered by Federal law. See www.nps.gov/articles/firearms-in-national-parks.htm
Lol also at "permitted demonstration" ... because we now need a permit for our first amendment right to assemble?
I am gonna call you for sure. I feel like to practice my 2nd amendment. But I want to know where can I practice it.
practice shooting? just go to the gravel pit
What do you mean it can't be loaded in the vehicle? Like not one in the chamber? Do I have to keep my loaded magazine out of the gun? Or can I not have any rounds in a magazine at all? Just wondering. Thanks.
The info you need is right here. ua-cam.com/video/VCFeB2jms4M/v-deo.html
So do I need a holster to open carrier
and since tobacco is 21 and up hookah lounges are designated by the liquor cannabis control board is 21 and up.
Watched your video can you help me out with this thinking about getting a byrna launcher it’s non lethal weapon
Where is the case law on “warrants alarm”
Are there any restrictions on the type of holster?
Can you define open carry? How much of the weapon has to show to be open carry? Recently moved to WA so I’m in the processes to applying for cpl
I'll be moving there in a couple of weeks from a "may issue" state and looking forward. Is there a minimum duration that we have to be residents before we can apply? Also looking at buying a couple of guns that I couldn't own in my current state.
The gun has to be visible on the person
Couldn’t I conceal carry in restaurants as long as I’m not in the bar area?
Of course.He has videos about that..
If I can’t have a gun loaded in the car in Washington, that would mean I can’t open carry in my car. That means I’d have to get to my location put the mag in, unholster the weapon to put one in the chamber and then put it back. I’m sure that could pose an issue for having to unholster it and load it, but I’d be forced to because I don’t have a cpl in Washington yet as I am out of state and have a Florida ccw. How do I go about legally arming the gun to go on a hike in Washington if I want to open carry.
Once you get to your destination for your hike…Arm yourself openly….Open Carry is legal in Washington State as long as you are not a felon or barred from owning a firearm..
@@Elvis19771and concealed carry is legal when doing outdoor recreational activities: RCW 9.41.060 (8)
In addition to the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution, every gun owner in Washington should be aware of Section 24 of Article 1 of the Washington State Constitution: "SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this Section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men."
Hello sir I am 20 years old and I want to open carry my handgun that was gifted to me is it okay if I do with a clean record
What I haven’t found is an RCW that addresses whether there is a legal requirement to identify to police if the only reason for the stop is the open carry.. any thoughts?
Obligatory not a lawyer but if you’re carrying and a cop asks for ID, you should provide it. They’re trying to make sure you’re not a felon or prohibited person carrying. While being a legal carrier, it’s inconvenient sure, but it’s also how the cops protect the public from people who shouldn’t be carrying.
Plus when you start butting heads with cops for no reason, you’re just making a simple ID check escalate into something else. Give ‘em your ID, thank them for their time and you’ll be on your way
State qualified armed security can open carry in schools, courthouses, medical facilities
PROUD OF YOUR BOY !!!
Love this video…
I am just glad i moved out of WA state. Inslee would love to see all firearms gone!
People feelings don't over ride laws
Im a bit confused about this. So if my old neighbor lady sees me open carry and im completely safe and never touch it. If shes scared i can get in trouble with the law? Seems kinda messed up. Like how can you be safe open carrying if any random person who sees it can decide whether or not its illegal?
Ok another video of his recently cleared this up. Yes that can happen but only if i actually take it out of my holster and handle it. Or display it in a way meant to intimidate.
No. It's a "reasonable person" kind of rule.
But for some reason you can't open carry a Airsoft Pistol? If that's true it makes no sense. Please clarify
Peoples feelings don't trample my 2A right!!!!!
This. The problem is not only that people get weirded out by the sight of a firearm and short circuit, but you're having to rely on the sanity of the general public not to lie, or embellish some BS story cause they're anti gun, or for whatever reason which can directly put you in danger.
So is it ok for stores example grocery stores, mall, retail stores I just got my license and those are places I go to most? Does anyone know the answer
Good to know
Primary Question - Could the RCW 9.41.270(1) be used improperly to allow those to take the stance of feeling intimidated or warrants alarm just by stating "I am intimidated / this warrants alarm" upon seeing the firearm on the person waist, holstered?
I know there always be those anti-2nd that just claim it, but what about those that have no exposure other than the negative they see in the news.
I have spoken to some people that have not been exposed to firearms in general and have an initial prejudice just by seeing them. The sight of guns has lost its normalization through many variables and laws that require them to be invisible and because of this, some 2nd advocates are attempting to re-normalize. Some 2nd advocates state open carry, is ideologically good but tactically dangerous.
How do we find the balance to keep people from feeling intimidated / warranting alarm?
Can you carry with one in the chamber and does it have to be on safe?
Do I need a holster displaying the whole gun or am I able to put it on my wasteband with my shirt tucked behind the gun? I used to have it in my back pocket where it shows the same about of the pistol as it would In front of me on my waist
You can carry "open" however you wish. But tucking it into a waistband or pocket is not the preferred method. Spend a few dollars and get a good quality holster made for that particular firearm.
The better question is how many people are you willing to shoot to open carry, cause like Mike Tyson, you're going to have an army of people that want to kick your ass and take your gun.
Please don't felony carry, while not illegal a holster helps maintain your gun in the spot you want it in, it also prevents anything slipping into the trigger which im sure if its in your pants it could be very dangerous
Can your gun be loaded when open carrying without permit
Can you open carry on metro bus?
Can I open carry on my bicycle in WA?
Without a permit are you sure you can open carry in a car without a permit? Seems I read no
can i open carry my revolver pistol loaded in pierce county?
CAN THE POLICE STOP YOU IF YOU ARE OPEN CARRY IF WALKING DOWN THE STREET
Yes. They can pretty much even tell you that you either need to put your weapon away, or leave the area. It's easy enough for them to claim that people are feeling intimidated and the laws are written as such that there's significant room for defining brandishing/threatening. Now you can't really be arrested just for peacefully open carrying, because it is legal, but you can definitely be asked to stop pretty easily. And if you resist then it can quickly become an issue with trespassing, resisting, brandishing, or the catch all for when police just want something to get you with because it's so vague: disorderly conduct. And remember anytime you have a firearm in the mix, it tends to be used to elevate things from like a basic trespassing to something really nasty like aggravated trespass while armed with deadly weapon. Pick the hills you want to die on very carefully :)
Can you possess a firearm in a place that has a liquor license or serves alcohol as its primary product if you have written permission from the owner?
No. Any liquor establishment that does not allow those under 21 falls under this law.
Only exception would be the owner themselves and their employees, who are allowed to carry on the premise while performing their duties. Obviously they can't just be chilling in the bar kicking back shots on their off hours while armed.
I could see working my farm or gardening open carry, since anyone on my land without permission is suspect already.
I'd conceal carry to go into town and do business amongts the English.
I’m going to open carry a flintlock muzzle loading pistol
I have done so many times in Clark County. And seen others doing the same. The average member of the general public is oblivious and caught up with them selves to notice. I have only had positive interactions when i do it. Mainly its im heading to shoot or going to do something that i would have it on me anyways. Not doing a "audit"
How old do you have to be to open carry?
Since one would most likely open carry a handgun, age 21 or over. If open carrying a rifle or shotgun, age 18.
Can you open carry and/or conceal carry in tribal lands?
I personally think its a bad idea to open carry. Its like open carrying a wad of cash, no one needs to know what you have on you.
If carried in a non-threatening manner are we allowed to carry an AR 15 openly in Washington state
Yes.
There's no such thing as a non-threatening manner to DemonRATs. And if any felons see it, their going to knock you out from behind and take it.
You're basically a walking punching bag and lots of boxers will jump at the chance
And why do we need a permit to peaceably assemble anywhere in public???????????????????????/ This is a violation of the U.S. constitution.
you cant conceal carry with a loaded gun with a permit in a car?
Okay, so I can open carry but I have to load/unload it and unlock/lock it up every time I get in or out of my vehicle?
I think so, unless you have a Concealed Pistol Permit. Edit: But if it is legal to open carry it why would that not apply to while in a car???
@@joebauers3746 I have a permit from my home state, but Washington doesn't recognize it. And yeah, not being able to open carry in a car is baffling. That's the point I was trying to make.
@@charleschristianson2730 MY understanding (not a lawyer just a Washington gun owner) is that it is because to anyone outside the car, everything inside is concealed
@@giantmanice ....except if you have contraband in the vehicle during a traffic stop and a cop sees it he can then search your vehicle because it's in "plain view." I'm not arguing with you, just pointing out the stupidity of the system 🤘
How does one "open carry" in a vehicle??? I know the gun should be unloaded but does it need to be completely visible or what??? Thanks. :)
you need to put it on the dash
@@poncedeoly469 For Real???
I have (two) back to back non violent felonies from the State of Texas from 1980 when I was only 20 years old... and I've stayed out of trouble ever since. I moved to Washington State in 1990. Question: Can I purchase and own a firearm in Washington State?
Not without first applying to get you right to own a firearm back. Basically go before a judge and make the case that you weren't a violent when you were engaged in criminal activity, and that you haven't been in trouble in 40 years. Its a hassle but I know a guy who went through it.
Thanks to loopholes you can buy and use black powder firearm.
@@justindunlap1235
Yes, I'd much rather carry a revolutionary war musket and a leather sachet of black powder than a 9mm 😆
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 you can easily convert them to cartridges and as long as the cartridges are BP it's still not considered a firearm
@@xxskitsxx15 That is specifically prohibited by law in Washington State, which uses the definition found in Federal law. The cartridges are primer-fired making the conversion into a firearm. Using black powder is not what defines those cap or flint ignition systems. Read the RCW. Also, federal law (26 U.S. Code § 5845) includes a section defining "antique" weapons and states: The term “antique firearm” means any firearm not designed or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.
Many people forget the Jim Crow (Democrat passed) anti-gun laws. After the Civil War open gun carry was restricted to military style pistols frequently owned by ex-confederate soldiers but unnafordable for poor black people. The Ku klax Clan were early supporters of gun control particularly the possession of guns by black people. One important part of American life, Jim Crow continues to thrive-the legal foundation of restrictive and oppressive gun control that was built by Jim Crow. The Jim Crow cases continue to hobble the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
Shockingly, the Jim Crow laws and legacy are lauded by some persons who consider themselves liberal and tolerant. In the 2010 Supreme Court case McDonald v. Chicago, Justice Stephen Breyer wrote a dissent that asserted that District of Columbia v. Heller should be overturned, and that state and local governments should be allowed to ban guns. Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg joined the dissent. That dissent included a litany of restrictive American gun control statutes and court cases, many of them the products of Jim Crow. Previous issues of America’s 1st Freedom have told the story of how the defeated Confederate states enacted the Black Codes, which explicitly restricted gun possession and carrying by the freedmen. Sometimes these laws facilitated the activities of the terrorist organization Ku Klux Klan, America’s first gun control organization. The top item on the Klan’s agenda was confiscating arms from the freedmen, the better to terrorize them afterward.
Just a thank you for the legalities of it all. We open carry, and you have provided relief in our rights. Thanks!
Can I open carry with a round in the chamber? Also, can I have my mags in the center console and the empty firearm on my passenger seat while commuting in a vehicle?
Open carry with a round in the chamber is perfectly ok, and many will tell you the preferred and proper way to carry. But that is a personal choice. If traveling with a handgun, and NOT having a CPL, the manner in which you describe carrying would be totally legal. IF, however, you have a valid CPL, you can carry that handgun loaded in the car.
@@WashingtonGunLaw Thank you very much for the fast response!
Someone at a gun store told me I can't have mine within reach and readily usable without the concealed license. Making it pretty much useless if it's truly needed.
Like in the trunk mags unloaded. I did already know about the open carry though. Nice video
@@blessedking1111 someone at the gun store lied to your face
William - the word "allowed" got dropped in the title.
Thank you for catching that. We fixed it thanks to you. Appreciate the heads up. Thanks for watching WGLTV.
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So can someone own a handgun at 18 in Washington ? If so can they carry it in their car legally ?
No you need to be 21 to own a handgun. They can also not carry a handgun in the vehicle.
The only way to carry a loaded pistol in your car is to have a CHL
21 and yes if the gun is not loaded, out of reach of the driver, and out of sight from the public.
A 21 year old can buy a gun, open carry, and transport the gun in the trunk of a car unloaded.
I'm not saying I want to, but can Washingtonians open/conceal carry inside a bank 🏦?
Perfect. Law in WA makes every Karen a cop. "I just don't feel comfortable with you carrying that firearm, you need to take it off or leave". Or worse, your walking your dog, minding your own business, and happen to be open carry. Karen sees you out her kitchen window, and just calls the cops. You get arrested......What BS
We need Constitutional Carry in WA.
Well, since open carry is LEGAL, you WOULDN'T get arrested. So stop with the Straw Man arguments.
@@willyb8568 What do you expect from someone who doesn't even know the difference between "your" and "you're."
Unwarranted alarm
No, you have not made certain aspects of this clear at all, nor do the laws. You are implying, but not definitively stating, that open carrying in a place where a given resident feels threatened is not lawful. While the applicable statute first cites an intent to threaten as the test, it seems to primarily rest upon subjective perception. Some person can feel threatened at any time by the mere presence of an open carrier, whether the locale is in some rural county in Eastern WA or on Seattle's Capitol Hill. This gets into ref flag/prior restraint areas. I agree with others here, as a practical matter in both laws and tactics, that open carry is unwise. But threat perception in turn naturally leads to concealed carry scenarios: what if a person feels threatened merely by someone being licensed for conceal carry, i.e., they find someone's very presence or demeanor threatening, and they suspect with sound basis or without that said person may be carrying a firearm?
Your audio sounds like you are using two mics and they are out of phase...yesterday and today.
Can I open carry with a full magazine in my handgun as long as there is no cartridge in the chamber?
Google + R.C.W. = answer
Phone + local police dept = answer
No you cannot
Yes you can open carry with a full mag and one in the chamber.
@@giantmanice Incorrect sir.
Round in the chamber if you want.
how do you open carry in a car?
It could be done, HOWEVER, in order to carry a handgun loaded in a car in WA, you must have a valid CPL. RCW 9.41.050. app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.050
@@WashingtonGunLaw see what I'm not understanding is do I have to unload the mag and do I have to un-holster my firearm and place it in say a cup holder so say I get pulled over the police officer can see it?
@@Nacho-eo9pc No. The firearm just needs to be unloaded if you do not have a valid concealed pistol license while in an automobile. Whether you have the magazine in your pocket or next to the firearm whether the firearm is in the cup holder or the glove box or the center console it doesn't really matter. And no you do not have to inform law enforcement if you have a firearm in your car however experience has shown me that law enforcement greatly appreciates knowing that upon contact.
@@WashingtonGunLaw Thankyou for the information I very much appreciate the response!
@@WashingtonGunLaw is a loaded gun when one in the chamber
When it’s all on the clip is that not conceded loaded? Just one of those things lol
So if I am riding my bike I must remove mag and keep chamber empty?
When you say "bike" do we mean motorcycle (which is a motor vehicle) or a bicycle (which is a vehicle, but not a motor vehicle per RCWs)? If we are talking motorcycle, the same rules apply to you there as they do any other motor vehicle. We're really thinking about doing a live chat in the next few weeks and this would be a great topic to discuss. Please save this idea and join us, if you can. Thanks for supporting Washington Gun Law.
@@WashingtonGunLaw I'm very interested in this answer when and how do I get on this chat?
@@WashingtonGunLaw also from my understanding it is a vehicle so I would not be able to have a round chambered or magazine in the gun do you agree?
Bicycle.
@@timothysvenson1 If you have a valid CPL, you can carry a firearm loaded in a vehicle. If you prefer to carry one the chamber, with a CPL that is fine.
He said not to intimidate others why in hell would you be doing that there would have to be something going on with that person
You're pretty uninformed of basic facts of life huh. A very large percentage of 🌑 people, and white BLM-loving Antifa DemonRATs will see your holstered gun as proof you're a hillbilly racist trumpster that needs to be taken down.
DemonRATs HATE guns and the 2nd amendment.
You can't carry in Post Offices; I will never carry open.
Is there an obligation for cpl holder in Washington state to inform a LEO in a traffic stop?
No, and we will be doing a video on that shortly, but in a nutshell: You are under no legal obligation to inform law enforcement, HOWEVER, most officers/troopers will no you're a CPL holder before they even get out of their car. And in my many conversations with members of law enforcement and from personal experience having been pulled over myself, they really do appreciate knowing about it. My personal experience, primarily with WSP, is that I tell them right away and we never talk about it again. So NOT required, but YES, I recommend it.
@@WashingtonGunLaw No duty to inform - absolutely correct.
Whether a cop that pulls you over will know you have a CPL is variable by agency. Last June, (2021 for those of you reading in the future), I asked a cop (Actually a King County Sheriff deputy - he's officially a KCSO deputy, but does double duty as Kent/Covington/Maple Valley PD under a KCSO contract) I'm friendly with exactly that - "Say you spot me running a stop sign and decide to pull me over - No doubt, you run my plate before you approach, but does that tell you if I have a CPL?" (He's fully aware that I do, and we've discussed the topic of armed citizens on multiple occasions - his stance can be boiled down to "hell yes, I support the idea completely!") His response: "Idunno - never actually thought about it - let's find out!" Since I'm 100% clean (at least, so far as I know... After all, I hold a CPL that was just recently renewed, which makes me expect that the background check went through without a hitch) I was all for pretending he just saw me blow a stop sign to get an actual answer to the question. He went through his standard "I'm gonna pull this guy over" procedure, including running the plate on my truck on the in-car terminal. The result, verified with my own little eyeballs watching over his shoulder as he worked, was NO - A King County Sheriff officer DOES NOT know from running your plate that you do or don't have a CPL. He and I both searched high, low, and sideways through the multiple pages of information that he DOES get back (Interesting side-note: They actually know when your next car insurance payment is due - assuming you're not driving without any) from running a plate, and neither of us were able to find any indication in any of it that I did or didn't hold a CPL. We then proceeded as if he had made contact after pulling me over - license, registration, etc, etc - He ran those, and STILL got nothing that told him whether I was or wasn't a CPL holder. It wasn't until he actually called in to dispatch on the radio and spoke to his dispatcher asking for "any additional information" that he got any sort of notification that I was a CPL holder - in the form of the dispatcher telling him "Be advised that the subject is also a CPL holder - he's valid until " as a sort of verbal "footnote" to the rest of the info (no wants, no warrants, no restraining orders) that came back.
So, when it comes to KCSO (and subject to the possibility that they COULD add such information to that which the officers get from running a license plate at any time) as of approximately mid-June 2021, NO - The KCSO officer who pulls you over has *NO* indication whether you are or are not a CPL holder until he either speaks on the radio to his dispatcher using your driver's license info, or specifically asks the dispatcher to verify you have a CPL. As noted above, this may vary from agency to agency - It's entirely possible that WSP, or Seattle PD, or whatever other LEO you might encounter can/does get that information from running your plate prior to you being pulled over, but KSCO officers DO NOT get that information until they've got your driver's license in hand and speak to their dispatcher.
Tell them and maybe earn some brownie points.
So an open carry 2A rally would be illegal?
It unlikely would not receive a permit.
"Illegal"
I've had a CCW for fifty years, but I can't figure why anyone would want to open carry! You are giving up your only defensive edge! THE BAD GUY DOESN'T KNOW YOU CAN KILL HIM! If he sees your gun he'll stick his Raven 25 in your ear and take your nice 40! Not me! I'll stay concealed!
It’s for people who are waiting for there cpl your not Paul Harrell
@@antonioking7937 Wait? You can't wait a month to show off? Use the contraction 'you're' NOT 'your' or use 'you are' if you get confused. Who the hell is Paul Harrell? Whatever! You ARE not Massad F Ayoob either, but you might benefit from his books. Open carry laws were passed more for the benefit of bank and armored car guards than the average citizen. Why be snotty? You just get it back!
@@daryljay7057 I agree with you Daryl, but I will play devils advocate. If I was waiting for my CPL I would surely open carry, being without it doesn't feel right.
I open carry to make sure in eastern Washington where I live the libtards know not to move here.
I live where most in the past could care less if you carried a firearm or not, that is become a problem now with all those who are moving to this area and have no idea about a firearm.
I were evicted from a RV park because I open carried there and the owner was positive any firearm that wasn't locked in a safe would jump up and randomly start shooting a few hundred rounds in all directions, thanks media, you folks are stupid to say the minimum and the least. Yet, when these people call a LEO they can't take their eyes off of his weapon because it will shoot them most assuredly. I were raised with firearms, served in the military with firearms and can't imagine how people could be so ignorant about the way firearms are really possessed and how they work. In order to keep our rights to possess a firearm, we are going to have to silence the medias tongue about how they report one of their fools committing crimes so they have something to report, truth or not, mostly NOT.
So if I want to protest while bearing an arm I should use a spear. Got it.
That's a stabbing weapon...You'll need to throw or sling rocks.
Not really clear. Open carry is legal, but not if someone feels threatened? So some anti could call police, claiming they felt threatened, and legal open carry can get you in trouble? This whole open carry is nuts! On one hand, the Wild West is OK, but concealed carry requires a permit? Huh? So, a criminal might get away with open carry for years, and the public never has/had a clue about the monster among them? But the good citizen is forced to go through the examination for a concealed permit? One might also consider, at least with open carry, others are aware of the weapon, while crooks carry concealed at will! Again, this whole thing is crazy! Then, even with a carry permit, one can walk into a gun store packing a loaded firearm, but still must pay a tax, pass a background check, take a course stressing suicide, and wait 10 days to get your new gun. Nuts! Why does anyone with a concealed carry permit have to go through that? I could see presenting your permit at purchase for a quick look-up if you're still a good guy. This is all BS. Because criminals do not care about laws. They will get a gun one way or another and carry it! This is more about punishing law-abiding citizens and making things so confusing that an attorney is needed to figure things out! I like simple solutions. At a certain age, get a gun license. Pass a course? Just like a driver's license. Then, with your gun license, buy any gun you want. Carry anyway you want. Just like with a car which might be used to run people over. Then, make punishment for deliberate firearms abuse serious. Like commit a deliberate violation... using gun to rob someone, and so on... like 10 years in prison! Society educates Sheeple how to drive. Educate the Sheeple about guns. Then throw the drunk drivers and bad gun apples in prison! Let law-abiding citizens be free!
If you open carry in Tacoma and some areas of Seattle.....you are asking for trouble. Gangs will put a target on you .
I thought I read somewhere that people who are employed in security can’t open and carry anywhere unless they are security . I live in seattle , is that true