All the Weapons Prohibited in Washington State.
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2021
- Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discusses other weapons which are prohibited under Washington law. RCW 9.41.250 specifically prohibits possession of "slungshots, sand clubs, metal knuckles and spring blade knives." But what constitutes these items? Unfortunately the Revised Code of Washington is silent in defining what exactly some of these items are. Washington law also prohibits the furtive carrying of "daggers, dirks and other dangerous weapons." But what does that really mean?
We discuss all of these weapons and what it means to you if you violate this law.
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Applicable Statutes:
RCW 9.41.250. app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.as...
RCW 9.41.010. app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.as...
RCW 9.41.270. app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.as...
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Sadly, this one needs an update.
BTW, bakers use a "blackjack" to prepare dough including those in Wasington State. Many laws are written without understanding principles of application.
Always appreciate the wealth of information!
So how do states get around making arms illegal when the second amendment says, shall not be infringed? Wouldnt that make it easy money for lawyers to sue the state for infringing upon the people? Arms means any weapon from pitchfork to heavy artillery.
Focusing on the FEDERAL constitution is a mistake. We should look to our own STATE constitutions for better customer service. For example, Washington’s state constitution is far more clear and protective: article 1 section 24: “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.”
@@prepperskills7223 I agree.
Thanks for clarifying dirk/dagger, I interpret your explaination that concealing a small edc fixed blade wouldn't fall under dirk/dagger
I'm genuinely curious about this as well. I originally assumed dagger to mean any fixed blade knife.
Ideally I would conceal carry a push dagger like the ones cold steel makes. But if I were to ever use it I'd hate to be locked up because of a knife that my conceal carry license doesn't apply to.
What are your thoughts on small push daggers Mr. Kirk?
Good info. Can’t wait to get out of this state
Last weekend at the giant Packwood flea market there were quite a few knife sellers selling all kinds of knives like switchblades, butterfly, daggers, brass knuckles and in one booth some 30 round mags lol. Nobody gave a damn and went about their business. There was law enforcement there too and they didn’t seem to be concerned.
Is the seller behind bars? Maybe it was the feds, thats why leo did not care.
It's another dumb ass law where it's considered nefarious to actually use the fuckin things as a practical pocket knife, but it's not actually illegal to own one at home for a knife collection or something like that. I bought another butterfly knife at a smoke shop a few months back and can get them shipped here with no problems. Lots of those archaic laws were from the 50s and 60s and probably aren't enforced heavily unless it can be tacked on as an additional charge for sombody who's already trouble with the law. I also see the automatic OTFs at military surplus stores and sometimes they saw "law enforcement only" on the case. Sick of seeing that cops can still get all the cool "tactical" knives and firearms while us filthy civilians are excluded. Just shows that cops really are above the law they're paid to enforce
I’m not sure how such a law would be phrased, but it seems to me we could get a lot of rights back with a simple amendment declaring any law with undefined terms to be void until such time as the term is defined by law.
Thank you very much for the information...
Always welcome
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Funny, I could swear WA had a strict inch limit on blade length!
So many laws...murder is murder. What does it matter what you do it with? It seems we could do away with most of these laws...
Can't stop watching this videos
“He stabbed me with his gun!”
“He shot me with his knife!”
Your videos are and excellent source of information. We moved to Washington State 5 years ago and I am still a little confused about the legality of assisted-opening knives (as opposed to spring blade, or switch blade knives). My research indicated that HB2347 addressed this but I didn't see that clarification in the video. It this addressed in section 2 of RCW 9.41.250?
RCW 9.41.050 states:
(2) "Spring blade knife" means any knife, including a prototype, model, or other sample, with a blade that is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens, or falls, or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal thrust or movement. A knife that contains a spring, detent, or other mechanism designed to create a bias toward closure of the blade and that requires physical exertion applied to the blade by hand, wrist, or arm to overcome the bias toward closure to assist in opening the knife is not a spring blade knife.
HB 2347, singed by Gov. Gregoire in 2012 states:
Exempts firefighters and rescuers, Washington State Patrol officers, and military members from certain prohibitions against spring blade knives. Permits the manufacture, sale, transportation, transfer, distribution, and possession of spring blade knives pursuant to contracts with certain permitted agencies and companies. Allows for testing of prototypes and other evaluative uses of spring blade knives by permitted agencies and companies. Adds that knives with a mechanism designed to create a bias toward closure are not spring blade knives.
Thank you for very informative videos!!! Does a 5 inch blade doubled edges knife considered a dagger. What about plastic knuckles do those follow under the same law?
With regard
I would have question regarding shooting on your own property. Given that you are doing it safely, not within any city limits, and taking measures to mitigate disturbance of nearby residences. Are there any legal issues? Great channel!
Well, I did some research and the best I could come up with is that each County has areas which all shooting is prohibited. You need to check with your county first. Then, if you are in an area where it is allowed, a very thorough survey of the area must be conducted because if something goes wrong down range, you will be on the hook for all of it. I would contact the County first.
Are sailors permitted to legally carry a slungshot?
Strange mashup of laws…
Nice Job! Can you do another one, but updated for 2022? (btw, I'm subscribing : )
I still cannot figure out if the manual retraction otf blades like the smith & wesson m&p are illegal. It is not a switchblade because the button does not bring the blade in so idk.
Every kilted Scot carries a dirk ...
Wow. WA is horrible in self defense.
What do you know about the exception for first responders? It's my understanding the we can carry switch blades if we are LEO, Firefighter, or an EMT.
Are hardwood knuckles banned?
so karambits and butterfly knifes are legal to own?
I know I’m late to the party but I’ve been wondering about this for awhile now, I’m about to move to wa and I usually don’t do this but I was wanting to know that if I tie my swords and only carry them for show is that illegal or am I ok as long as I let law enforcement know that they’re merely for show can I carry them or no?
I also forgot to add that these blades are the dullest blades I have ever touched idk if that’ll help my case but yk
So, no length restriction on knives? Seattle has such a restriction.
Not necessarily, but remember that if the blade is long enough to make it a dirk or dagger, then it "could" be deemed illegal.
Do Blackpowder revolvers count?
Does the knife law apply to US military?
Wondering about the common utility knife, often having a second blade for cutting a seatbelt, that is opened by flicking it open, but which has no spring and is not opened by gravity?
Ahh, Milwaukee, huh?
Slingshot?... you mean like the Ka-Bonker toys we grew up with?
*Slungshot - darn auto correct
Do you know what happened to HB 1224?
I've always been told there is even a length limit on pocket knives? Not sure if that sate or local law though.
Depending on what county/city you're in if I remember correctly. Seattle for example has limitations on blade length of < 3½"
Those laws are asinine. Guess every kitchen knife at Costco is illegal. GMAFB.
Does carrying a sword in its scabbard count as concealing or count as open carry though
What about spring loaded flipper knives or manual flippers?
The way its worded it sounds like most folding knives would be illegal because you can open most with a flick of the wrist/centrifugal force
The problem with the law governing "Monkey's Fist" or slungshot is civilian boat owners, sailors, and the military still use this naval knot tool today as means to be attached to lanyards for mooring and utility lines, but if have one on your person or property, it's a crime. Should we arrest everyone owns a ship or boat in the State of Washington?
So, wood or plastic knuckles is all good?
So are butterly/balisongs legal or not? Additionally, I have been to several gun shows where they are freely selling switchblades. So, am I to understand they are only selling them to law enforcement? Are assisted openers legal?
Butterfly knives are illegal
I have seen them openly available for sale as well. I guess that one depends on if you say that it is properly opened using two hands or if it is illegal because it can be opened one handed with practice.
How is it the Supreme Court can rule pistol brace banning is unconstitutional but dragging their feet on this
I have all except Brass Knuckles
There is no mention of the word ‘causes’, I see intent and warrants. - in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.
But then I just read THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, Respondent, v. RANDOLPH J. SPENCER.
Yikes
8:41 sounds like this law is based on people's feelings....
Is it legal to own a non bladed butterfly knife?
is it legal to conceal a pocket knife in Washington state
I'm going to hell in a leaky rowboat
So a bolo is a slungshot?
But it's not illegal for knife companies to ship auto knifes to washington? Not gonna say which companies, but they do so it's kind of confusing
those maritime hoodlums and their slungshots. so glad the legislature took action against them. Sea Fair pirates are on notice.
Indeed. The legislature for years has been concerned with general pillaging and plundering and has taken definitive action to protect us all.
Indeed. The legislature for years has been concerned with general pillaging and plundering and has taken definitive action to protect us all.
True Seattlite, with a barometer for humor!! Nice!
Are 40mm launchers legal to own in Washington?
Grenade launchers are considered other destructive devices under the NFA and therefore would need to be registered via the ATF like other NFA items.
What about hunting knives?
Politicians should NOT be allowed to outlaw things that they Do NOT Understand...
I am a Martial Artist with multiple Black Belts and 39years of Training under by belt...
And as such, I am very familiar with most forms of so called "weaponry"...
(I'll explain the "So Called" part at the end)
I only tell you this to establish my credibility and expertise on the issue...
With regard to the "Sand Club," Tools like these were designed as a Less Lethal option for Self Defensive...
The Physics of their design does not readily allow the type of damage that would be necessary to take a life...
In fact, I can think of Only ONE way in which a sand club could kill a person...
And even then, it would be a one in a million shot.
Historically though, they were carried by law enforcement and prison guards as a means of subduing a suspect without killing them.
Unfortunately, the 'Bad Guys' decided to start using them as well, so now they are illegal.
And Foolishly so...
Slung Shots on the other hand are 'potentially' more lethal than a Sand Club, but Only slightly...
And Only under certain conditions...
Since "Force = Mass x Acceleration"...
The effectiveness of a Slung Shot is going to depend Heavily (pun intended) on how much mass it has in it...
And since it is a "Flexible Weapon," Centripetal Force is also at play...
Meaning that the length of the 'handle' will also have some impact on its 'Impact' (more pun intended)...
Regardless though, a Slung Shot functions very much like a Sand Club...
And likewise, it is a Less Lethal Defensive Tool Option...
On a personal note though, I would not use or advise anyone to use a Slung Shot...
Because the Slung Shot is a Flexible 'Weapon'...
And Flexible Combat Tools are VERY Difficult to Control...
And REQUIRE a Lot of Training to use...
AND this is True for ALL Flexible Combat Tools...
Otherwise, they are often more dangerous to the wielder than to their opponent.
And of course that also applies to Nunchaku as well, which are also illegal to carry in Washington...
Though the Legislature called them "Chaka Sticks" when they banned them...
(AGAIN... Legislators should NOT be able to outlaw things they can't even name correctly)
(BECAUSE they don't understand Anything about them)
Regarding "Metal Knuckles," those are Only used by people who don't know how to throw a proper punch...
And I've never known a Martial Artist to use them...
Part of the reason for that is that they are as likely to break your finger as the other guys jaw...
Given the positions in which they place the fingers...
Regardless, If they did work effectively, they would STILL be a Less Lethal option for Self Defense...
Sure, you could kill someone with a pair of Metal Knuckles, but that risk is only slightly higher than that of the same person throwing a Bare Knuckle Punch...
(And statistics show that out since one of the most common murder weapons in America is Bare Knuckles)
I do wonder though...
The Law declares "Metal Knuckles" "Malum Prohibitum" SPECIFICALLY...
The key word here being "Metal"...
But, what if someone has an item of the exact same design, but made of plastic instead?
Or Wood...
Or anything that is Not Metal?
Like Glass for instance...
Would that item be legal since it is Not Metal?
In keeping with the Letter of the Law...
Or would it still be Illegal anyway...
In keeping with the Spirit of the Law...
Anyway, I find it funny that for all of the Democrats grand standing on "lethal weapons"...
That they would outlaw Less Lethal Options....
But then again, "Safety" has NEVER been the real reason that they Hate arms in the hands of their Constituents...
And now, as promised...
Is a Brush an Artist?
Is a Hammer a Carpenter?
Is a Spatula a Chef?
No...
These are but Tools in the Hands of a Master...
And likewise...
A club is Not a Weapon...
A knife is Not a Weapon...
A sword is Not a Weapon...
And...
A gun is Not a Weapon...
These are but Tools...
The Weapon is the One who Wields it!
And to a Weapon...
EVERYTHING is a Tool.
Well said
what about an everyday..Sling-Shot? that is not addressed...
That was not addressed because the sling shot is not illegal.
Soooo I can carry a pencil and a pen only …. Got it
Yo da' MAN!
Can I still buy non semi automatic rifles at 18?
Yes…
Yes.
Unsurprisingly oppressive
So much for the right to keep and bear arms. FYI the suppressor law is clear. Since the second amendment is federal law, if I am following it, then I'm in compliance of federal law and thus this state law doesn't apply to me! Good luck atf
When is Washington going too outlaw cars?
Is a pocket knife in your pocket concealed carry? My pocket knife is a tool not a weapon
Honestly, I think those laws are ridiculous if you ask me. Imagine an innocent law-abiding deer-hunting citizen who's carrying a classical Buck 120 hunting knife with no criminal record. If caught by WA law enforcers concealing it in the woods after cutting up a deer in the middle of hunting season, would you arrest him too?? I mean no offense, but just saying.
that law is unconstitutional
the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
all of these are arms
i have not and will not follow this law
So... it's illegal to possess some of these, but also illegal to dispose of them. Yeah, that makes sense. Wow.
Laws such as our "dangerous weapons" laws, are idiotic and evil. If we actually have a right to defend self or others, then how are such laws constitutional? Free persons should not have restrictions imposed on their choice of self-defense implement.
Sandclubs are sold in sex stores.... So is bondage against the law if someone was to search a bdsm owners home and find one?
Oregon > Washington
I love living in this stupid state
Yeah i made just shy of 27 thousand dollars last year time to start voteing with your dollars im leaving washington . You can dig in or take your money with you but i wont be gaslight bread crumbed or lied to in zombie land.shalom.
Wtf.. you diss open carry? Who cares if it's a sword, it's a right to bear arms. Alarming if in hand just as pistol walking in neighborhood, but they have sheaths to carry... disappointed