Novus or Magic Eraser For Cleaning A Playfield? - Bally's 1971 Four Million B.C. Pinball - Repair #5
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You took 3 Million years off this game! She looks as good as Raquel Welch ! (been waiting 3 videos to make a 1 Million Years B.C. reference)
Nice job lol
hahaha not much looks as good as Raquel Welch!
What a boring video.
Sorry to be offtopic but does any of you know of a method to get back into an instagram account..?
I was stupid lost my account password. I would love any tips you can give me!
@Finn Atticus instablaster :)
Hi. My name is Bill and I just wanted to weigh in stack switch's screws. I started with the EM machines way back in the 70's and over the years this is what I have found. For the most part they don't need to be touched. The only time I have found they needed attation was if the machine was worked on before and someone replaced a blade and did not put the screws back in wright. What I did find was that if the machine was sitting turned off for some time in the cold and damp (I worked on the boardwalk's on the N.J. Coast) and they ard turned off for about 4 months over the winter in the cold and damp and you got some odd problems then check out the screws, as the bake-a-lot spacers would expand with the dampness then when the machine was turned on the heat would dry then out and they would be loose.
Thank you William Svitak.
That makes perfect sense Bill, thank you for your experience... I've come to realize over the years working on these that we run into different problems depending on where the game was in the country, since all of ours are in South Carolina I think it changes some of the issues, like for instance we don't have much static problems so we never really see static discharge damaging IC chips on a circuit board, but in other parts of the country apparently it's a big issue! so like you said it could be the folks who keep running into loose switch stacks are operating them near the coast. Thanks for the information!
Ron
Nice job making her look pretty. You do a great job caring for these old machines. I think we can put to rest the Novus on wood idea. :)
Looking forward to tomorrow's episode.
Thanks RC, we appreciate you watching!
Hey Ron - got my Joe’s Classic Mug today , just letting you know that for UK people’s they are printed local not sent from overseas. ( no import duty issues )
Very cool Ady, I was hoping they had all that figured out :) That's why I went with them instead of trying to ship them myself! We appreciate it!
I am liking the kooky layouts more are more! I love that the T Rex is giving the big foot to other guy. 😂
We're going to showcase a bunch of Ted Zale's crazy layouts in the final video of this one, that will be out Next Friday.
Very cool video ‼️ Nice pin.
Surely, you want to hear the bell. And don't call me Shirley!
Yes, these videos have strange effects on me. But they're good effects!
Keep up the great work!
Glad you liked it Shirley!
Those magic erasers give me chills like fingernails on a chalkboard, or climbing a wooden fence barefoot. 😬
We're not supposed to climb wooden fences barefoot???
@@LyonsArcade LOL, well I didn't say that but that sentence makes me cringe.
Your videos rock! Thank you so much!
Looks great Ron!!! Can’t wait to see you play it.
Coming Soon!
i just played this table on my visual pinball. Fun old school table!
Definitely
i will be waiting for part 4 thank you for another great video i did miss the thumper bumper today .looking forward to seeing you play it
Coming soon :) Thanks for watching, John!
Two thumbs up great video Ron
Thanks Dennis, glad you enjoyed it!
Looking good as always, Ron. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching man!
Sweet... Thanks! The choreography with the music is great, lol! Seriously though, another fine job. I’m running a little behind but can’t wait for the game play video.
love how they always show T-Rex fighting Triceratops in graphics and old movies - in reality T-Rex lived closer to today than he did to Triceratops :-D
Or so you've been told, you ever dig up a T-Rex? :)
What an interesting and complex game for an EM! Looking forward to game play video!
Coming soon :)
Magic erasers work by far the best over anything else. As you said, combined with a cleaning solution of any type it works wonders!
Yup, they're truly... magic!
This was a great demo on why you love the Magic Eraser. How hard to do it, and the effect wanted. Would love to see some actual time/speed work on painted areas with the Magic Eraser. I kinda get it from the wood work alone, but paint is nerve wracking…
You can't beat magic eraser for that ground in dirt, but you already knew that :)
I don't like the polished dirt look :)
Novus *is an amazing product for the right project. I restored some plastic grips on an old BB pew-pew. After the three step process they looked nearly freshly molded.
Very useful to hear how hard you are pushing on that Magic Eraser. This isn’t a light pressure - you are pushing.
nice work , as usual =)
Thanks man!
Awesome!
Thanks Spider!
4:00 it's indeed Franks. But there are several coutries in Europe that had Franks before the introduction of the Euro. There are French Franc and also Swiss and e.g. Belgium Frank(en). Centimes are basically the Cents. Same for France and Belgium, so it's easy to mix that up. The coin you found in the machine said "Belgie" which means Belgium in French. So that machine was most likely in Belgium at some point. BTW Switzerland still uses Franken because they are not part of the EU, even if they are totally surrounded by it. Swiss neutrality i guess. 😀
I never knew they weren't part, a bunch of holdouts, eh?
@@LyonsArcade Hello again from Germany. Yeah, kinda annoying. EU map has a hole in the middle. Maybe Brexit happened due to Britains "hole in the map" OSD. 😀 But we like Switzerland regardless. 🤑 And this is how we say good bye in Germany. 👋 😉 (get it? - > thumbs up)
Nice!
Thanks Teddy!
If you mouse-over the thumbnail, you get an epic snap-zoom into dinosaur donk! LOL
Sometimes the universe just plans things that way!
Great videos! I recently got my first pin (Bally Big Show 1974) and your vids have helped a lot. So I wanted to clean up my playfield and I wiped the whole thing down with Naptha. Just as a quick clean up to get rid of dirt. Naptha didn't touch the deep down dirt though. So I put some denatured alcohol on a magic eraser and tested it on the upper playfield. While I was doing it, it looked great. Cleaned up the wood and original paint nicely. I wiped off the area and after it dried it looked like I had scuffed the clear coat in that area. It had a hazed look to it. And you can clearly see a defined line where I stopped on the wood. Shiny clear coat on one side and scuffed, hazy and flat on the other side. Looks awful. So I put a few coats of wax on there to see it it'd shine up a bit. But it did not. I've watched plenty of people use magic eraser and alcohol followed by wax and their playfields turn out amazing. Didn't seem to work for me though. Any idea what happened?
That stuff is basically sandpaper, if you go heavy on it it will definitely remove the clearcoat.
@@LyonsArcade Yeah I think I scrubbed a bit too hard. I went back and tried another spot at the top with magic eraser and alcohol. I used very little pressure. Kind of let the eraser do the work. Wiped it down with a little Novus 1 right after. This time it came out ok but it still looked a bit scuffed. As a test right next to it I used a soft cloth with Novus 2 followed by Novus 1. The difference was enormous. The Novus routine left it clean and shiny on wood and paint and I haven't even put the wax on yet. After inspecting the clear coat on my playfield closely I believe it has been re-cleared before. Maybe that has something to do with the eraser scuffing so bad. Might have even been the alcohol. Not sure but I think this proves that every playfield is going to be different. Maybe some will do better with eraser and some will do better with Novus. For anyone reading this I humbly suggest you try both methods in an inconspicuous area to see which works better for your particular playfield. Either way, thanks for the videos man. They are a tremendous help. Keep doin what you do!
Next thing you know people are suggesting ear wax to clean your pinball machine :P use what you think works best Ron ;) You are the Pinball repair God :) you would know what to use best :)
Thanks Jeroen, I wanted to test it though just to make sure :)
You want something just abrasive enough to pull the dirt up but not damage the painted surface. Have you ever tried bar keepers friend? Walmart carries it and it's abrasiveness is very mild. Ive used it in copper pans and to polish the brass on a big globe. It works for that similarly to brasso.
I’ve never tried it, I’ll see if I can pick some up
I remember that film.. 😁
He said kray kray LOL You're too hip bro! Love ya Joe!
I stole that from Maria Menunos. She wrestled at Wrestlemania a few years back, and was wearing these nice white pants, looked like a million bucks. Well about halfway through the match, there was a brown smudge on the pants. After the match, she tweeted out that she got one of the other girl's makeup on her pants in the match, "Let's not get cray cray" I thought it was the funniest thing I ever read...
twitter.com/mariamenounos/status/186622449750781953
@@LyonsArcade Haha I'm dead bro
Great job, in process of bringing back to life a 1971 Bally Firecracker (German edition). This is my first machine and a great tutorial to go by. Do you have any videos of adjusting the score jumpers or bell score adjustment "push pins"? Thanks!
Here's the trick that I've learned but I've learned I can adapt it and refine it..
Maybe..
But working in the restaurant trade the best way to bring up dirt and grind and grease sometimes..
Very hot water is your best friend.
Spray it on let it sit and soak.
Spray some more hot water. And soke.
Spray some more.
scrub It off. Comes off easy.
You're letting the hot water do the expanding of grime. Or letting all the used grease to warm up and get rid of.
But. Wouldn't work on wood.
But.
Can you warm up rubbing alcohol in the microwave. Not hot enough to melt the plastic.. but enough to spray on grime.
Let it set for a few seconds it'll evaporate quickly.
Spray on again and again.
Let it set. Again but evaporating.
Technically should save the word without no problem...
Rubbing alcohol evaporates quickly.
But the paint would be my only concerned.
Unless you keep the alcohol enough to not melt paint. Even old paint has a melting point.
So maybe 100° or less.
Really hypothetically should do the trick.
That's an interesting idea, that very well may work, we'll have to try it someday on something.
Hi ron, It suppose that this game came from Belgium. They had also Francs before the Euro was introduced. great video!
I believe you're correct, thank you for watching Sam!
Hey Joe, hope you're doing well.
Doing Great, hope you are!
CP-100 is great on clear coated machines and on rubbers.
Thank you Jeff, I knew it had to have a good use because I've heard other people say it was decent stuff. I just always have such old machines none of the modern stuff is that effective...
@@LyonsArcade Try it on flipper rubbers. It works fairly well on standard rubbers but silicone or polyurethane ones will wipe clean with it.
Great video, I also use magic eraser, it always works and the same wax as you use. Playfield looks great. How long did it take to film this video? Thanks Ron see you in next video.
I messed around with it for probably... 4 or 5 hours all together (the top of the playfield).
Try a strong alkali with the magic eraser but check in an out of site place first. If you have varnish or acrylic top coat then it should be no problem.
I stumbled upon a floor cleaner that is super effective with a magic eraser. Had a real WTF moment when I saw how well it worked.
May I ask, what is the chemical in the red bottle that you used to "clean the haze off" at 26:50?
I just wipe the haze off with a wet paper towel but the red bottle was car wax.
Hey pinheads, quick question. Restoring 78 stern that must have belonged to Emeril Lagasse because it looks like he's been chopping veggies on it for years 🙄. Lockdown bar, scratches too deep to polish. I got a variety pack of sand paper 120-2100, is this doable or am I opening Pandora's box?
Thanks!
Sand that thing. It puts like a brushed aluminum look on it. I've done it before... I don't know if you'll be able to get a mirror shine back on it but you might with the higher grit.
Hi Ron!
So I have to ask; Since there were no bulbs in the upper left corner, what then was the purpose of the hole under the plastic in that corner?
I'm looking forward to seeing this in action... It's an interesting layout...
They may have intended to install one but never did, there's also a hole for a switch and a bulb under the top right plastic but the mechanism for the ball walker mounts over it... so they must have intended that at some point too before they figured out the mech would cover it up. Ted Zale was a madman he came up with some really creative stuff and sometimes it made other parts of the playfield impractical. That hole at the top though seems to be on every machine, maybe it had to do with how they hung the playfields when they were clearcoating them or something too, I've seen them hung up like that before.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with the saying but in the UK it goes "it's like teaching your grandmother how to suck eggs", which is basically trying to give you advice with what you're already familiar with. Stick to the magic eraser, it clearly works for you 👍
Did you ever get any update from BenSound on that jackhole who filed false claims for his music? Has that been resolved, or is it still in process?
Oh, and also -- what the crap, a ramp made from playfield wood?? Zale really is a madman!
Great video. What wax did you use or recommend to use?
We just use Meguilar's carnuba car wax, it's nice and thick. Avoid white wax it gets in all the cracks on the wood and shows every one of them.
Thanks for info.
Ron! I have a question AGAIN! In 1971 Williams made a game called Stardust, which had an "Up-Post" between the flippers. Was that Williams new ide to make somthing simular to the Zipper Flipper aftar the lawsuit? What do you think?
We've had one of those in too :) All the pinball companies were ripping each other off so I don't think Williams invented that one either but basically yeah it does the same thing.... doesn't look as cool as the Zipper Flippers though :) ua-cam.com/video/TT7qBQm5714/v-deo.html
The three lights above the pop bumpers didn't appear to be working. You said there were no lights up there. I'm confused.
There aren't 3 lights above the pop bumpers... there's one to the upper right but that only lights when you activate the 3000 point skill shot. If you mean the 3 in the pop bumpers, they light when you roll over the switches above them. There's no other lights back there though.
Best way to clean off the white haze? I had to really scrub it with alcohol. Didn’t seem like that was right.
I'm not sure, I've never had a problem, I usually just take it right off with a wet paper towel. It could be though that i'm using the cheapo magic erasers, mine are fake they're actually just melamine foam, the actual Mr. Clean Magic Erasers may have a different formula that's harder to take off.
@@The_Black_Knight Yeah this was on an old Fast Draw EM. I figured I may have dissolved some of the original lacquer because I used 95% ethanol. Live and learn. Wasn't too bad. Only a small area and it was recoverable.
behind the 3000 plastic is a flasher or a bulb becuse you did not put a new bulb just asking
It's a Bulb, I must have missed that one.
Try Naptha
Somebody said that’s what the blue stuff is...
@@LyonsArcade oh shoot, my bad. I didn't realize you had CP-100 there. Normally I'm always in a hurry to go to work and don't have time to watch the full videos... At night busy and wrecked from work. I'll watch it today. 🤙
This recommendation was meant for general cleaning, not deep cleaning, just for clarification. The magic eraser is obviously the go-to for those ball trails. It's good to see you demoing these, though. Hehehe. People need to see what works and what don't!! 😉
Magic Eraser thin strips and Wildcat 125 is what i use for older games and ball swirls! brings the dirt right out.
Novus #2 is best on playfields. It won't run down into the electronics. I will clean up the ball swrils.
Cup-a-tea time! :-)
Drink Up!
26:50 .. what was in that bottle?!
www.amazon.com/Meguiars-Deep-Crystal-Carnauba-Wax/dp/B0009IQX6I?crid=IXLVFYKGAAF9&keywords=meguiars%2Bwax&qid=1704568605&sprefix=meguiars%2Bwax,aps,117&sr=8-8&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=lyonsarcade-20&linkId=ef546118196ba0c0714f165471797ecd&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
@@LyonsArcade Thanks!
Magic eraser is awesome.
U just have to get careful.
It will erase everything.
99% sure my theory works..
I just have no way to test it.
So here you all go..
How hot does the alcohol need to be in order to do cleaning but not melt everything around it.
Or do bodily harm..
YOu should try it on something man, that's a good idea at least worth trying out. If you google it someone else may have already tried it, or maybe heating the Alcohol makes it evaporate? Plus it's flammable so you'd have to be careful!
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Could be France. Could also be Switzerland. They still have their Francs. They aren't part of the Eurozone.
More than likely Belgium, Ron found a 50 Centime coin inside, but close to France could've been a visitor. I would go for Belgium seeing as so many tobacco shops they would have and some still do have pins and arcade machines in them and still have lots of truckers stopping off to buy.
It had a Belgie in it which solved the mystery for us in the second video :) Remember too this game is from 1971 and the customer said his father has owned it for 25 years in America.
Ytt
Your not cleaning wood your cleaning what ever the pictures are done with if its cellulose or two pack acrilic i would use car products. Its basically paint.
That's a good point!