If you look closely John was going for Evangeline first, but once again Nat played the victim to get John attention away from Evangeline. John did put Evangeline first.
John may have rescued redhead mess first but he was literally in love with vange. Look how ehen he went for gnat he moved things out of the way so he wouldn't get burned, but when he went for vange he jumped like he was spiderman over that fire getting burned in the process yo save her life. That just proves he love's her, he was willing to die for her.
john loved evangeline, he rescuced natalie but stayed with evangeline and was more concerned with her well being, he didnt even try to bring natalie round/wake her he left her to bo. he didn't leave her side once he rescued her,even today he looks like he's with natalie for the sake of being with someone/anyone he does not look at her the same way he looked at vange
I don't get how anyone would think he picked Natalie over Van, after watching this. The writers made it so easy for him to go to Nat first, AFTER she passed out. That is the ONLY reason he did it. He kept his eyes on Van and stepped towards her first. Nat has always been the weak one. When he went for Van, he FLEW like Superman! Lol! He had to save his lady love and he stayed with her so long that he didn't even noticed that Nat was missing! Lol!
@kirstenrox234 John loves Evangeline, Natalie is just his rescue victim. She is needy and John needs to be needed. But make no mistake about it John loves Evangeline a hell of alot more than he does Natalie
The writers and producers loved natalie more. That's why all this nonsense has taken place, but ME went beyond the script and portrayed john as someone who loved and respected evangeline. Long after their scripted breakup. That's why I suspect they had evangeline's character continually shutting down john's multiple apologies. If he loved natalie more why cheat and have her passed out. Why not have her fully awake and then we could make the proper assessment.
@2riseintruth I used to think the same thing. But I just took a first aid class, and the first thing we learned was that in a crisis the first person on whom you check (or save) is the unconscious person.
John McBain was in love with Evangeline period! He loved Natalie but felt guilty for Cristian getting so-called killed. Then when Cristian came back and killed Santee, and went to prison, he made John promise not to reveal he was indeed Cristian and not John Doe. John didn't want Natalie to suffer again, because she had been thru a lot of trama already, because of him, so he kept the secret. He met Evangeline and pursued her. As their relationship started to blume and their feelings grew for one another, their lives began to get intangled, with John and Evangeline working against each other on opposites sides. They had said in the beginning that they would not let work interfere with their relationship, but it wasn't long before that became an issue because of their ambition and dedication to their careers. John came to Evangeline with issues about his father and his fiance Caitlyn. His issues about Natalie were guilt and the hero thing. John tried to make up for what he got Natalie involved with that caused Christian's death. John was actually on a mission for Quantico. FBI. If John never said "I love you" to Evangeline, it was only because the last time he did it, Caitlyn got shot in the head by someone who wanted to hurt him. So, he didn't want that to happen to Evangeline. Everything John did showed he was "in love with Evangeline!". He said he loved Natalie and Natalie blew that out of proportion . John loved Natalie like a kid sister. Evangeline was a very strong/insecure, passive/aggresive, independent/vulnerable woman. She needed approval and validation all the time because of her family's expectations of her. The writer's of the show didn't stay true to what could have been one of the best storylines in daytime. The writer's bent to public opinion s about interracial couples and demand by fans who didn't care for the pairing of Michael Easton and Renee Elise Goldsberry. It's so true to life when Evangeline told John in the "basement scene that her father told her, "As an African American Woman, you have to work three times as hard to achieve your goals.". The fact that the writers bent to a segment of society that was unacceptable of interracial pairing only proved what Evangeline stated. Props to Michael Easton and Renee Elise Gooseberry for ignoring public opinion, and never making their relationship about race....just their real life love for each other. You can't fake that! . I would have loved to have had a love like theirs. That's why people are still today discovering and viewing their clips.
Girl you broke this down in real time! Every thing you wrote was the truth! OLTL could have blown to the top but the writers were to afraid to go there and they missed it big time. ME/REG did a amazing job with their story line. It’s Aug2022 and I still love this storyline and many other do too!
Are you kidding me....did you see how he rescued Evangeline...he didn't even try to wakeup Natalie... He leap over whatever to get to Evangeline....He stayed Evangeline....and told Bo to check on Natalie, when Vicki ask about Natalie, John was like Natalie who? That is why Natalie got kidnapped, because John left for the wolves! haha.....
The reason Evangeline and Natalie was in this predicament was because Natalie wanted to make herself bait for the killer just to get Johns attention and she got the attention of the killer. This whole situation is Natalies fault but hey whats almost dying if you can get another womans man!
You should type in "Jovan I'ts all I've ever wanted" John explains his actions for the decision, on who to save. Also, he did stay with Van the entire time. If his heart was truly with Nat, he would have gone back to make sure she was ok.
Exactly! I think some people are so into this couple that they like to ignore John's wrongdoings. I am soooo glad Vange dumped him and moved on after this!!! She was way to good for him.
Yepp! He loves Van! I have to admit...when I saw this eppi I was mad as hell. But I failed to see the whole *run in slow motion. & take the Giant leap* film makers do when a man saves the woman he loves. It was classic, John had to save Nataile first, to make it greater when he saves Evangeline. That being said if I were Van, I would have seen it the way she did.
This episode PISSED ME OFF to no end. Why? Because the writers KNEW that with all things being equal, John would have gone to Vange first. Heck, he even took the first step towards her. So what did they do? They showed Gnat pass out and slump over. Of course, if someone sees that that's who they'll go to first. Plus, look at his behavior after the fact. The writers suck!
I'm with temigirl...he had to rescue Natalie first because she was unconscious and because her fire was lit first...she could have died. Vangie's first wasn't that big AND she was woke. At least he saved them both.
OK I will give him credit his first instinct was to save Evangeline first. If you watch 3:42-3:48 John was walking towards Evangeline first then changed his steps and went to Natalie. I don't really think Natalie was unconsious I think she fainted from relief at being resuced by John.
lol, and if Knat was so liked and suppose to be Johns "true love" then why didn't they bring her to Port Charles???? Could it be because she can't act and looks a hot mess.
@reneewilliams26 John seems to can't handle a real woman like Evangeline. She is strong and independent. he wasn't ready to really commit to her that's why.
my question was why didn't Michael Easton's John McBain poop before you left One Life to Live 2012 in 2005 did the bloody doors off I don't get that one at home but I still like the fact I love the fact that he got Natalie out of a burning building
To be sincere he did the right thing, Nat was unconscious but Van was. he try to do his best as a cop and balance the work. I will do the same if in his condition.
I love John. He follows his heart even when he's not sure what he wants. John loved Evangeline but he wasn't in love with her. If John truly loved her there is no way that Natalie could ever come between them. John committed to Evangeline for all the wrong reasons which is why his feelings for Natalie kept coming into focus. He committed to Evangeline because Cris was still alive and he was keeping it a secret from Natalie, Antonio and Carlotta. Unfortunately Evangeline became collateral damage in his attempt to honor the promise he made to Cris. At the end of the day Evangeline deserved more than what John could offer her.
@PhillyGirl1 That is what the Killing Club members wanted to do to the popular cheerleaders in high school. They wanted to set them on fire. Pretty sick actually.
Yeah maybe if he would have saved Evangeline first she could have had the strength to help resuce Natalie and see that someone else was there too!!! But Natalie fainting still meant her life was threathened
ABSOLUTELY IF SICKENING EVAN HAD PASSED OUT HE ABSOLUTELY WOULD STILL HAVE GONE TO NATALIE & RESCUED HER FIRST HIS LOVE THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE WHICH THEY ARE TO EACH OTHER FROM THE VERRRRY FIRST MOMENT THEY LAID EYES ON EACH OTHER AT CROSSROADS!!!😉😁😁😁♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
ok everybody is upset about who john love the most and you guys entirely missed the point. hayes did it for a reason. he knew given the outcome of his plan along that given the chance that john will always choose nat. im not saying he loves her more but follow the facts and the pattern nat gets in trouble and john hears about it his first instinct is to protect nat first and make allowance later and ppl you can believe if you want to be its no always on nat either. whether he love van or not
ABSOLUTELY ALL OF YOU SO CALLED JOVAN FANS SUCK HE NEVER EVER EVERRRRR LOVED EVAN NATALIE IS THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE & HE SAID IT ALL THE TIME ON OLTL HE MADE THE THE MOVE TOWARDS NATALIE FIRST THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE HE WANTED TO SAVE THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE & MICHAEL&MELISSA'S CHEMISTRY IS PHENOMENAL BEYOND PHENOMENAL AND NEEDS TO BE WITNESSED AGAIN ON GH!!!!! I LOVVVVE MY JOHN&NATALIE/JOLIE/ME&MA SOOOO MUCH & WANT HER ON GH REUNITED WITH MICHAEL!😉😁😁😁♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
He leaped over the fire to save Vang. He loved her and no Gnat.
If you look closely John was going for Evangeline first, but once again Nat played the victim to get John attention away from Evangeline. John did put Evangeline first.
John may have rescued redhead mess first but he was literally in love with vange. Look how ehen he went for gnat he moved things out of the way so he wouldn't get burned, but when he went for vange he jumped like he was spiderman over that fire getting burned in the process yo save her life. That just proves he love's her, he was willing to die for her.
john loved evangeline, he rescuced natalie but stayed with evangeline and was more concerned with her well being, he didnt even try to bring natalie round/wake her he left her to bo. he didn't leave her side once he rescued her,even today he looks like he's with natalie for the sake of being with someone/anyone he does not look at her the same way he looked at vange
I don't get how anyone would think he picked Natalie over Van, after watching this. The writers made it so easy for him to go to Nat first, AFTER she passed out. That is the ONLY reason he did it. He kept his eyes on Van and stepped towards her first. Nat has always been the weak one. When he went for Van, he FLEW like Superman! Lol! He had to save his lady love and he stayed with her so long that he didn't even noticed that Nat was missing! Lol!
@kirstenrox234 John loves Evangeline, Natalie is just his rescue victim. She is needy and John needs to be needed. But make no mistake about it John loves Evangeline a hell of alot more than he does Natalie
One if the best story lines on oltl ever
Anyone else find it hilarious that after all the butting in Natalie did for John's attention and love he ended up playing her for Sam on GH? LOL
The writers and producers loved natalie more. That's why all this nonsense has taken place, but ME went beyond the script and portrayed john as someone who loved and respected evangeline. Long after their scripted breakup. That's why I suspect they had evangeline's character continually shutting down john's multiple apologies. If he loved natalie more why cheat and have her passed out. Why not have her fully awake and then we could make the proper assessment.
@2riseintruth I used to think the same thing. But I just took a first aid class, and the first thing we learned was that in a crisis the first person on whom you check (or save) is the unconscious person.
John McBain was in love with Evangeline period! He loved Natalie but felt guilty for Cristian getting so-called killed. Then when Cristian came back and killed Santee, and went to prison, he made John promise not to reveal he was indeed Cristian and not John Doe. John didn't want Natalie to suffer again, because she had been thru a lot of trama already, because of him, so he kept the secret. He met Evangeline and pursued her. As their relationship started to blume and their feelings grew for one another, their lives began to get intangled, with John and Evangeline working against each other on opposites sides. They had said in the beginning that they would not let work interfere with their relationship, but it wasn't long before that became an issue because of their ambition and dedication to their careers. John came to Evangeline with issues about his father and his fiance Caitlyn. His issues about Natalie were guilt and the hero thing. John tried to make up for what he got Natalie involved with that caused Christian's death. John was actually on a mission for Quantico. FBI. If John never said "I love you" to Evangeline, it was only because the last time he did it, Caitlyn got shot in the head by someone who wanted to hurt him. So, he didn't want that to happen to Evangeline. Everything John did showed he was "in love with Evangeline!". He said he loved Natalie and Natalie blew that out of proportion . John loved Natalie like a kid sister. Evangeline was a very strong/insecure, passive/aggresive, independent/vulnerable woman. She needed approval and validation all the time because of her family's expectations of her. The writer's of the show didn't stay true to what could have been one of the best storylines in daytime. The writer's bent to public opinion s about interracial couples and demand by fans who didn't care for the pairing of Michael Easton and Renee Elise Goldsberry. It's so true to life when Evangeline told John in the "basement scene that her father told her, "As an African American Woman, you have to work three times as hard to achieve your goals.". The fact that the writers bent to a segment of society that was unacceptable of interracial pairing only proved what Evangeline stated. Props to Michael Easton and Renee Elise Gooseberry for ignoring public opinion, and never making their relationship about race....just their real life love for each other. You can't fake that! . I would have loved to have had a love like theirs. That's why people are still today discovering and viewing their clips.
Girl you broke this down in real time! Every thing you wrote was the truth! OLTL could have blown to the top but the writers were to afraid to go there and they missed it big time. ME/REG did a amazing job with their story line. It’s Aug2022 and I still love this storyline and many other do too!
Are you kidding me....did you see how he rescued Evangeline...he didn't even try to wakeup Natalie... He leap over whatever to get to Evangeline....He stayed Evangeline....and told Bo to check on Natalie, when Vicki ask about Natalie, John was like Natalie who? That is why Natalie got kidnapped, because John left for the wolves! haha.....
Let's settle this once and for all...John does not love Natalie...the writers loves her so that's why she gets John.
The reason Evangeline and Natalie was in this predicament was because Natalie wanted to make herself bait for the killer just to get Johns attention and she got the attention of the killer. This whole situation is Natalies fault but hey whats almost dying if you can get another womans man!
Omg that's right. She planned it all with Rex. What an idiot. And she and John didn't even last after all that. Smdh
Natalie faked that faint so John could rescue her first
You should type in "Jovan I'ts all I've ever wanted" John explains his actions for the decision, on who to save. Also, he did stay with Van the entire time. If his heart was truly with Nat, he would have gone back to make sure she was ok.
Exactly! I think some people are so into this couple that they like to ignore John's wrongdoings. I am soooo glad Vange dumped him and moved on after this!!! She was way to good for him.
It was hard to the tummy. I tried to hold out but that was gut punch for me, haven't watched OLTL since.
John and Van weren't even together when this happened...so that's why he went to Natalie first she was the weaker one as usual.
natalie did what she always did play the damn victim
9 yrs later and Im still wondering why John got Natalie first and stashed her in the corner lmao Well we now know it was the storyline all along lol
Yepp! He loves Van! I have to admit...when I saw this eppi I was mad as hell. But I failed to see the whole *run in slow motion. & take the Giant leap* film makers do when a man saves the woman he loves. It was classic, John had to save Nataile first, to make it greater when he saves Evangeline. That being said if I were Van, I would have seen it the way she did.
While standing their he should've choose heads or tails lol.
This episode PISSED ME OFF to no end. Why? Because the writers KNEW that with all things being equal, John would have gone to Vange first. Heck, he even took the first step towards her. So what did they do? They showed Gnat pass out and slump over. Of course, if someone sees that that's who they'll go to first. Plus, look at his behavior after the fact. The writers suck!
Dang, with all that time he took to think about who to rescue first, he could have saved them both before either one of them passed out! LOL!
This is the episode that made me hate John whispering mccbain!
I'm with temigirl...he had to rescue Natalie first because she was unconscious and because her fire was lit first...she could have died. Vangie's first wasn't that big AND she was woke. At least he saved them both.
OK I will give him credit his first instinct was to save Evangeline first. If you watch 3:42-3:48 John was walking towards Evangeline first then changed his steps and went to Natalie. I don't really think Natalie was unconsious I think she fainted from relief at being resuced by John.
so why are you here? John is with someone named Sam now, harass their channels!!!!
lol, and if Knat was so liked and suppose to be Johns "true love" then why didn't they bring her to Port Charles???? Could it be because she can't act and looks a hot mess.
Natalie is such an attention seeker 🥴🥴🥴
Where in the hell was the fire marshall?
@reneewilliams26 John seems to can't handle a real woman like Evangeline. She is strong and independent. he wasn't ready to really commit to her that's why.
my question was why didn't Michael Easton's John McBain poop before you left One Life to Live 2012 in 2005 did the bloody doors off I don't get that one at home but I still like the fact I love the fact that he got Natalie out of a burning building
To be sincere he did the right thing, Nat was unconscious but Van was. he try to do his best as a cop and balance the work.
I will do the same if in his condition.
They could have redeemed themselves...but this was the killer. I think even REG knew it.
While standing their he should ve flip a coin lol heads or tails.
I love John. He follows his heart even when he's not sure what he wants. John loved Evangeline but he wasn't in love with her. If John truly loved her there is no way that Natalie could ever come between them. John committed to Evangeline for all the wrong reasons which is why his feelings for Natalie kept coming into focus. He committed to Evangeline because Cris was still alive and he was keeping it a secret from Natalie, Antonio and Carlotta. Unfortunately Evangeline became collateral damage in his attempt to honor the promise he made to Cris. At the end of the day Evangeline deserved more than what John could offer her.
Disagree w/that.
is as exclusive as the Knat channels that don't want Knat bashing!
@PhillyGirl1 That is what the Killing Club members wanted to do to the popular cheerleaders in high school. They wanted to set them on fire. Pretty sick actually.
Yeah maybe if he would have saved Evangeline first she could have had the strength to help resuce Natalie and see that someone else was there too!!! But Natalie fainting still meant her life was threathened
I stopped watching the show around this time. This really pissed me off!
@frenchmocha83: LMAO! OK U R A FOOL. :-p
@Mjkid4ever ROFLOL!!!
John loves natalie more i think even if evangaline was passing out he would still have gone for nat first it is his 1st insticnt
ABSOLUTELY IF SICKENING EVAN HAD PASSED OUT HE ABSOLUTELY WOULD STILL HAVE GONE TO NATALIE & RESCUED HER FIRST HIS LOVE THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE WHICH THEY ARE TO EACH OTHER FROM THE VERRRRY FIRST MOMENT THEY LAID EYES ON EACH OTHER AT CROSSROADS!!!😉😁😁😁♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
ok everybody is upset about who john love the most and you guys entirely missed the point. hayes did it for a reason. he knew given the outcome of his plan along that given the chance that john will always choose nat. im not saying he loves her more but follow the facts and the pattern nat gets in trouble and john hears about it his first instinct is to protect nat first and make allowance later and ppl you can believe if you want to be its no always on nat either. whether he love van or not
how do john love vange more he never said i love you to her only natalie he lover her form the very first time he seen natalie
I alwys knew he loved natalie more. hes always loved her more.
ABSOLUTELY ALL OF YOU SO CALLED JOVAN FANS SUCK HE NEVER EVER EVERRRRR LOVED EVAN NATALIE IS THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE & HE SAID IT ALL THE TIME ON OLTL HE MADE THE THE MOVE TOWARDS NATALIE FIRST THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE HE WANTED TO SAVE THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE & MICHAEL&MELISSA'S CHEMISTRY IS PHENOMENAL BEYOND PHENOMENAL AND NEEDS TO BE WITNESSED AGAIN ON GH!!!!! I LOVVVVE MY JOHN&NATALIE/JOLIE/ME&MA SOOOO MUCH & WANT HER ON GH REUNITED WITH MICHAEL!😉😁😁😁♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️