@@dijoxx season 8 she wouldn't have looked twice towards the slaves and just taken the payment to make them think she'll leave them alone, then come back with drogon and burn everything again. Again this version was exactly as the guy says, and then d and d ruined the best thing they had.
@@AmaryIIion Erm, this is called a character arc, there are multiple instances of foreshadowing that she would become mad (aside from being a Targaryen). Also, the main plot was still Martins writing, books aren't finished yet but he told the writers of the show how it will end. I also think that her arc is very realistic, I mean, people listening less and less to advisors and friends the more powerful they get, isn't this all to human? She made lots of reckless decisions even during earlier times. Even in this case here she had no plan whatsoever how this should work out, she just set everyone free and crucified the former masters, job done, eh? But these people spent their entire lives as slaves and don't know how to live on their own, the entire infrastructure of that city state was build around slavery, you can't just kill the only people that know how to work that place without creating a major chaos that will also cause pain and suffering. She wants to do the right thing but her methods are often times questionable at best and the execution becomes more reckless every single time. I also question her motifs because while she seems to have her heart in the right place she also seems to do a lot of things to please her enormous ego. Her main goal was and always has been to sit on the iron throne no matter what the costs.
She was always going to go a little mad, this was obvious from the first season. The problem was they decided to show her turn in two episodes instead of two season as would have been the case in earlier seasons.
She kind of forgot that she cared for the oppressed masses. Imagine yourself hearing the bells. Now imagine yourself hearing the bells while sitting on a lovely and willing dragon. Who wouldn't go a little bit mad? I mean, bells, bells, bells!
@@corneliussmiff2773 Why and how was that obvious? Because of the mad hater who was her grandfather? Whom if i recall correctly was mostly and just for a short while insane because some seer ventured into the past and affected it by his presence. He was lucky to get knifed by Jaime and didn't start calling out his name like Hodor. Meaning it was not something hereditary.
@@kinngrimm I don't want to be THAT person, but I cannot possibly explain in a very good way since I am not the best writer. There are alot of great videos on the matter. But in summary she had a savior complex, was prone to threats of wrathful vegeance (when she was initially denied entry to Quarth for example), she bestowed herself an ever increasing list of grandiose titles with an growing obsession of her own greatness, she was utterly convinced of her right to rule Westeros above all else despite never having ever set foot on its mainland soil and most of all despite claiming to be pragmatic she made some pretty shocking decisions. As I have said numerous times, her turn into madness was portrayed in a terrible way in the show (because they rushed it) but had it been more nuanced, it would have been fascinating to see. FYI it was her Father who was the mad king.
I just noticed at 1:41 when he accuses her of savageries, she looks straight at the camera for just a second and gives her best Jim Halpert “fucking really” face. 🤣🤣🤣
One of my all time favorite scenes. Shows what a humanitarian she is, wants the slaves all released and paid. Calculating and smart moves; simply by her stares.
And also shows how naive she is, for the whole economic system of Yunkai and the other cities is build upon slavery, and the masters know it. With her modus operandi "change everything first, occasionally solve consequences case-by-case when they grow big" she basically wants them to turn their city and society into chaos they cannot imagine or solve. No surprise they are trying to avoid it as much as they can.
@@matouskrizek1668 yeah I know it sounds crazy but I find yunkai’s terms reasonable, its their entire economy, obviously im not excusing slavery here but Daenerys asking this of them is extremely unreasonable
@@matouskrizek1668as she should "I never held much with slavery […]. You can’t just go… usin’ another kind of people, like they wasn’t people at all. Know what I mean? Got to end, sooner or later. Better if it ends peaceful, but it’s got to end even if it has to be with fire and blood" - GRRM
Saying slavery should not end because it would cost too much financially or people would have to rework the economy so they actually pay rather than abuse their workers are not sound moral arguments.
"What happens to things that don't bend?" Such a good answer. Only thing is, things only break, if the force is great enough. But Dannys army was indeed a great force!
I like how the dragons know what gold is and know to protect it 😂 its a clever reference to the countless tales of a dragon coveting and protecting gold in a cave
Well, my dog knows my moods instantly, like most dogs do. Once she was napping, and I looked out the upstairs window and saw a fox walking through the yard. (I have a border collie/Aussie) I was so surprised, jumped up and before i even hit the stairs she was super excited and whining to get out. She went from zero to 110% excited and ready to go, we ran downstairs, opened the door and she pushed through the screen door and bolted after that Fox quick as a flash. All happened in seconds. And that was my dog! Imagine a dragon that you've bonded with!! So yeah, all that stuff about her being bonded with the dragons? Totally real, I'm sure
Gotta say I'm pretty glad I didn't get invested in the show to see such a frankly _magnificent_ character be shredded to bits writing-wise in the final season. The writers did you GOT fans dirty.
Her child was so protective of their mother when she was threatened. Their mother was so strong and fearless when she was threatened that he would make her a slave
Something I never noticed before but at 1:23 when Dany casually got that meat out and threw it for Drogon, Rhaegal and Viserion was a veiled threat that he's at her mercy its also a subtle nod to her ancestor Jahaerys I who was very skilled in making veiled threats like when he had Rogar Baratheon watch him feed Vermithor when Rogar asked Jahaerys if he required hostages for Rogar's scheme to usurp him.
Even though the story with the witch didn't end well for her, the message clearly reached her. She realized that life is only as good as its quality, and became far more attentive to the needs of others. And then Season 8 happened.
reading the translation is pretty interesting. I love the idea of calling the grass sea, "the great sea of green". It has a poetic quality to it and a nice contrast to the salt sea that the dorathaki are so afraid of.
The writing from the last seasons is horrible because she’s a caring loving ruler who looks out for those trampled upon and enslaved. Having your heart broken doesn’t mean you’ve gone mad. Means you have a huge heart
That’s exactly what I said! As soon as those chests opened I was like noooo way you could easily carry that over. It would take about 6 guys each for that much gold.
Ahh when drogon was little and cute😍 the only time ever in history where everyone can agree of not missing a tiny baby and appreciates the grown Savage they become
Rewatching scenes like this just makes me even more upset and frankly pissed off at how they completely destroyed her in season 8. So much character development and build up, and for what? So D&D could hurry up and finish the show so they could create their big Star Wars series deal that didn’t even happen as a result of how awful their writing was for the final season of Game of Thrones? Oh the irony. I absolutely love the fact that House of the Dragon had succeeded far beyond what nonsense D&D came up with after they couldn’t rely on the source material from George R.R. Martin, despite the fact that they could’ve worked with him on the scripts for the final seasons. There’s a reason why House of the Dragon is such an amazing show and a large part of that is the fact that the show creators actually worked with George and created the show WITH HIM.. just like it always should’ve been with Game of Thrones from beginning to ESPECIALLY the end of the series.
Same, it annoys me when I see how great they wrote her in the show at the beginning...And yeah you don't see many ppl who really know WHY the show was so fucked at the end with them disappearing and caring about their new series they thought they were getting instead of taking care of GoT and not just let it go to shit. I'm as annoyed at those two shitheads as I am GRRM and he's really made me angry with him and his pissing on us SOIAF fans but that's anther thing all together. If George didn't waste 3 years of his self isolation from C19 and moaning and dooming about the Orange Man every day he could have finished the whole book series by now.
Dany: I will risk my alliances and my chance at the Iron Throne to free the slaves of this city Also Dany Season 8: *BUUUURN BABY BURN, IT'S ON FIYAAAA!*
Now that is a Queen. She should have burned down King's Landing at the start when Cersi betrayed her. As Olenna Tyrell said "You're A Dragon, Be A Dragon"
She could have burned down the Red Keep and spared the city, who would likely have been grateful for ridding them of Cersei even though they weren't slaves in the same way as Meereen's underclass, and ruled the Seven Kingdoms with Jon Snow.. that would have been a more fitting ending for her character.
Haha, apparently two men can carry a chest of gold. People have no idea how much gold weighs. Those chests with the gold in them would be like 200-300 kgs.
Closer to 1000 kg, I remember the last scene in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", where Eastwood slings $100,000 in gold onto a horse, and then rides the horse away. Over 150kg, plus a man, plus all his gear. He'd need a Percheron.
I like how this guy's "car" comes with it's own walking stereo. He's like yo play me a sick beat to roll up on this bitch with. Seriously, think about it. Why would there be a drummer. "What do you do for a living? " "Oh I walk in front of the bosses human carriage and play a drum"....."Why?" "I....I dont know"
The older you get, the more you realize that Daenerys' approach, while deeply inspiring, was also very unrealistic. You can't just turn a system upside-down that quickly and expect things to go smoothly like a utopia. And when Daenerys ruled Meereen, she realized this for herself and was even forced to allow indentured servitude, to hold things together. That's why Tyrion's approach was smart, i.e. allow a 7-year transition period with the end goal of abolishing slavery, instead of snapping your finger and expecting it to switch off like a light bulb - doesn't quite work that way.
Not all that unrealistic considering the reality of change is something real life organizations are struggling to grasp. Nothing changes overnight, but it's a hard pill to swallow.
"a single day of freedom is worth more than a lifetime in chains" - greyworm "for a slave, a single day can feel like years" - Missandei "I never held much with slavery […]. You can’t just go… usin’ another kind of people, like they wasn’t people at all. Know what I mean? Got to end, sooner or later. Better if it ends peaceful, but it’s got to end even if it has to be with fire and blood" - GRRM
The argument for a slow and planned out transition should not be used as an excuse for no transition at all-and no transition is what he is trying to bribe her into accepting in this scene.
Not even Tyrion's approach would have worked. She would have need to stay here indefinitely for it to work and set up new Kingdom or Republic Idk in Ghis. The old aristocracy was still very much around and they would need to dealt with or completely removed for the her reforms to successfully take root.
So much patience for her birth right the iron throne up until here all for common people and slaves she doesn't know but finally when she was eventually about to get everything she wanted she was shown more eagered and then mad all of a sudden. The people she lost isn't enough to turn her mad, she could have burned common people in a fit of rage and later regretted it and it all could have been like before but no she becomes the mad queen all of a sudden.
Exactly bruh. Like the mad queen story arc isn’t the problem, it’s how quick and sudden it was. It should’ve been a much longer, drawn out descent into madness. Over a season or 2. Not within a few fuckin episodes. And that’s what i always say too, like what made her instantly snap and go absolutely insane and slaughter innocent babies and an entire city? She didn’t do that when she lost all her close friends or her dragon or anything else, but missandei dying was enough to make her turn
In the book it explores the slave trade more deeply. Dany is magnanimous in her want to free the slaves, however it's quick implemention devastates the economy and its citizens. Many former slaves go to her and tell her that they lived better as slaves and they were respected by their masters and preferred that to living in the streets. You get a bit of it here when the old man wanted to return to being a slave because he was cared for and loved by his owners but in the book it's more pronounced. Part of being a good ruler is knowing how to implement radical changes practically otherwise you'll anger everyone.
There are over 70 gold bars of roughly 2x8x20 cm size, therefore each weight over 6 kilo, so almost 500 kg in each chest. With such strong slaves, Yunkai has nothing to fear!
Drogon don't take shit from nobody when it comes to his mother😅 lil man was ready to break some throats even when he was a lil fella. He don't want nobody messing with his Momma. 🤞🤣
If i were her, and my goal is to concuer westeroos i would taken the gold and ships, and sailed elswhere until my forces are stronger and my dragons are growned, but thats just me...
Gold bars like the one shown would weight about 25lbs each. I count nine just in the top layer of the chest on the left. That alone would be 225lbs. Unless there is a false bottom to the chests, there are at least 10 layers. That's 2250lbs, over a ton. And two slaves carry it. Wow...if they are that strong, why don't they just free themselves?
I particularly don't care on Daenerys being mad. I just don't like the way they made it. Make such a great character suddenly mad out of a few sad events without a proper development is the same as ruining the character and throwing the whole previous development in trash.
Can we just take a second and give this guy some serious credit. Not only did he just casually walk up to, but he also THREATENED a lady with 3, THREE actual dragons next to her. And he threatened her in a very aggressive tone at that. The freakin balls on this guy. I get that he was told that he had safe passage, but that's still THREE live juvenile dragons. That's like saying "hey you see that lady being protected by a pack of ferocious wolves that she raised from birth? Go attack her, the wolves probably won't do anything. Oh yeah, they also breathe fire".
Accidentally dropped here... I don't know how is it written originally, however the scene lacks the royalty and here are the reasons why: 1. The Khalisee of Whole 27 kingdoms, of Westeros and Easteros, liberator of peaceful slave people of the Southsteros and so on and so forth would have better education and also, would practice that education (of aristocracy and relevant manners, ethics) as well not to BREAK HER PROMISES, as the word of the KING OF EVERYTHING AND ALL SHALL HAVE BEEN TRUSTED (At lease, in this kind of formal gatherings, where many eyes attend to see,, especially during times, when the death was was recording its accounts with red pencil). Having this said, the kind of meetings were well prepared, childish actions would also be excluded unless agitated by any of the parties, which didn't happen from the visitor. 2. With the comprehensive intro of the point 1, having title of the 'Queen who was not to be believed', adding - another nickname to it: 'the Thief Queen' would be also granted - Utterly Unacceptable for anyone - Especially the Ruler. Gift was part of the negotiation. 3. Gold is gold - Anytime, Anywhere!. However no Ruler would act as a poor, greedy, indecent being (Peckerwood?), would even strictly abstain from expressing their uttermost desire of that golden pieces. There are few more points, but I have even more important business to do. I just wrote it all above (which is more than enough to get the point) for prospective rulers of Allsteros, to not reiterate the mistakes of Khalisi. Not for you, Vagabond bast.3#@cm3r(*#&&#@&(!_09bc!! The End
If you wonder why Daenerys is writen to have wit and humor in this episode as opposed to always stoic as she usually is portrayed in the show, it is because this episode was written by grrm inatead of d&d
I love this era of her, growing and fearless, conquer all of her enemies, but still full of love 😭
lol what love?
@@dijoxx season 8 she wouldn't have looked twice towards the slaves and just taken the payment to make them think she'll leave them alone, then come back with drogon and burn everything again. Again this version was exactly as the guy says, and then d and d ruined the best thing they had.
@@dijoxx they said THAT era of her dont be stupid pls
@@AmaryIIion Erm, this is called a character arc, there are multiple instances of foreshadowing that she would become mad (aside from being a Targaryen). Also, the main plot was still Martins writing, books aren't finished yet but he told the writers of the show how it will end.
I also think that her arc is very realistic, I mean, people listening less and less to advisors and friends the more powerful they get, isn't this all to human? She made lots of reckless decisions even during earlier times. Even in this case here she had no plan whatsoever how this should work out, she just set everyone free and crucified the former masters, job done, eh? But these people spent their entire lives as slaves and don't know how to live on their own, the entire infrastructure of that city state was build around slavery, you can't just kill the only people that know how to work that place without creating a major chaos that will also cause pain and suffering. She wants to do the right thing but her methods are often times questionable at best and the execution becomes more reckless every single time. I also question her motifs because while she seems to have her heart in the right place she also seems to do a lot of things to please her enormous ego. Her main goal was and always has been to sit on the iron throne no matter what the costs.
@@Puschit1 No he didn't
She cares so much about the slaves and people to save them but when it comes to season 8 she just burns them all 10/10 writing there
She was always going to go a little mad, this was obvious from the first season. The problem was they decided to show her turn in two episodes instead of two season as would have been the case in earlier seasons.
She kind of forgot that she cared for the oppressed masses. Imagine yourself hearing the bells. Now imagine yourself hearing the bells while sitting on a lovely and willing dragon. Who wouldn't go a little bit mad? I mean, bells, bells, bells!
@@corneliussmiff2773 Why and how was that obvious? Because of the mad hater who was her grandfather? Whom if i recall correctly was mostly and just for a short while insane because some seer ventured into the past and affected it by his presence. He was lucky to get knifed by Jaime and didn't start calling out his name like Hodor. Meaning it was not something hereditary.
@@kinngrimm I don't want to be THAT person, but I cannot possibly explain in a very good way since I am not the best writer. There are alot of great videos on the matter. But in summary she had a savior complex, was prone to threats of wrathful vegeance (when she was initially denied entry to Quarth for example), she bestowed herself an ever increasing list of grandiose titles with an growing obsession of her own greatness, she was utterly convinced of her right to rule Westeros above all else despite never having ever set foot on its mainland soil and most of all despite claiming to be pragmatic she made some pretty shocking decisions. As I have said numerous times, her turn into madness was portrayed in a terrible way in the show (because they rushed it) but had it been more nuanced, it would have been fascinating to see. FYI it was her Father who was the mad king.
@@corneliussmiff2773 never heard someone explain her character shift in a way that made sense. My respects to you ser
I love the looks that Jorah and Barristan have when Danny asks what happens to things that don't bend. Gives me the vibe of two proud dads.
Except...one of the 'dads' is in love with her sooo....
@@mediocremaiden8883 Well she IS a Targeryan >.>
@@Ravengagepvl 😆 🤣
@@mediocremaiden8883 cant rlly get mad at one of them fallin when they arent actually her dads
It just shows how loyal they were to her n whatnot
I love the irony on what happens to the things that won't bend 😂 it's gets destroyed 😂😂😂
"He said he had powerful friends. What was he talking about?"
"I believe he knows Janos Slynt."
"Oh, OK."
🤣 LOL
I just noticed at 1:41 when he accuses her of savageries, she looks straight at the camera for just a second and gives her best Jim Halpert “fucking really” face.
🤣🤣🤣
She really does! xD
hahahahahaha true!
Thanks ! Never saw that! xD
Emilia was in pain (recovery from brain surgery) during the early seasons.
That’s hilarious!
One of my all time favorite scenes. Shows what a humanitarian she is, wants the slaves all released and paid. Calculating and smart moves; simply by her stares.
And also shows how naive she is, for the whole economic system of Yunkai and the other cities is build upon slavery, and the masters know it. With her modus operandi "change everything first, occasionally solve consequences case-by-case when they grow big" she basically wants them to turn their city and society into chaos they cannot imagine or solve. No surprise they are trying to avoid it as much as they can.
@@matouskrizek1668 yeah I know it sounds crazy but I find yunkai’s terms reasonable, its their entire economy, obviously im not excusing slavery here but Daenerys asking this of them is extremely unreasonable
@@Gekumatz Depends on your morals, to some people enslavement is unreasonable
@@matouskrizek1668as she should
"I never held much with slavery […]. You can’t just go… usin’ another kind of people, like they wasn’t people at all. Know what I mean? Got to end, sooner or later. Better if it ends peaceful, but it’s got to end even if it has to be with fire and blood" - GRRM
Saying slavery should not end because it would cost too much financially or people would have to rework the economy so they actually pay rather than abuse their workers are not sound moral arguments.
"What happens to things that don't bend?" Such a good answer. Only thing is, things only break, if the force is great enough. But Dannys army was indeed a great force!
yeah her army didn't serve what happened to it in the end.
I like how the dragons know what gold is and know to protect it 😂 its a clever reference to the countless tales of a dragon coveting and protecting gold in a cave
Smaug
The smell of it is intoxicating and pleasantly relaxing. Works like catnip.
It's also a reference too targaryens having a psychic link or special bond and khaleesi wanted that gold so she had drogon and the others Rob them lol
Ooh that's true! Nice perspective on it too haha
Well, my dog knows my moods instantly, like most dogs do. Once she was napping, and I looked out the upstairs window and saw a fox walking through the yard. (I have a border collie/Aussie) I was so surprised, jumped up and before i even hit the stairs she was super excited and whining to get out. She went from zero to 110% excited and ready to go, we ran downstairs, opened the door and she pushed through the screen door and bolted after that Fox quick as a flash. All happened in seconds.
And that was my dog!
Imagine a dragon that you've bonded with!!
So yeah, all that stuff about her being bonded with the dragons? Totally real, I'm sure
He doomed himself the second after he claimed: “you are mad”... The face of Dany, and Drogon’s reactions then....
Gotta say I'm pretty glad I didn't get invested in the show to see such a frankly _magnificent_ character be shredded to bits writing-wise in the final season. The writers did you GOT fans dirty.
For 6 seasons it was amazing, season 7 started to go downhill, and season 8 was just a catastrophe
Not only her character but pretty much everyone.
The idea of having her snap isn't a bad one, would have been fucking magnificent if it was executed properly.
@@shockingbunny2122 it started in Season 5 when they ram out of book material. It just got progressively worse each season after that.
@@Cartman4wesome yah but even season 6 is still watchable I start losing interest once I get to season 7 and 8
Drogon is Daenerys' special boy. Always taking care of Mom.
Her child was so protective of their mother when she was threatened. Their mother was so strong and fearless when she was threatened that he would make her a slave
yeah indeed!
Something I never noticed before but at 1:23 when Dany casually got that meat out and threw it for Drogon, Rhaegal and Viserion was a veiled threat that he's at her mercy its also a subtle nod to her ancestor Jahaerys I who was very skilled in making veiled threats like when he had Rogar Baratheon watch him feed Vermithor when Rogar asked Jahaerys if he required hostages for Rogar's scheme to usurp him.
Love how she pets her baby at the end. 🐲
the pet:"gimme the meat, gimme, I did the dirty job, I´m hungry, are you deaf?!"
Drogon asking "Did I do good Mommy?" Her petting tells him "Yes, you did." His reply, a Dragon's purr.
Even though the story with the witch didn't end well for her, the message clearly reached her. She realized that life is only as good as its quality, and became far more attentive to the needs of others.
And then Season 8 happened.
reading the translation is pretty interesting. I love the idea of calling the grass sea, "the great sea of green". It has a poetic quality to it and a nice contrast to the salt sea that the dorathaki are so afraid of.
French is a beautiful language full of poetry and images
@@yaniamarouche6965 You clearly haven't heard me speaking it. That'll be enough to think Esperanto sounds good.
@@albdamned577 I'm sure your french is fine
Ha, sea of green--stole it from the Yellow Submarine.
@@JM-db8ez you cant steal a phrase like that
She really did inhabit that role, so beautiful, so cold ... until season 7 when it was obviously too difficult a task to not laugh.
Sad how it all went straight downhill. Makes rewatching hard, knowing it all turns to crap. Danerys most of all.
Drogon at the end like: "Mother, tell me I did well" 🤣
"You did great, son."
Back in the most glorious days of Daenery when she surrounded by most loyal councils. Everything is doomed the moment she take Tyrion as queen hands.
More like the writing of the show
The book Tyrion definitely embraces the dragons and everything a wild queen may do with them. He has nothing at all to do with the show Tyrion.
they dumbed down tyrion in the show
She was crazy, not the little dude's fault
I'm sure in the book it will be the same and Tyrion will try to use her to bring fire and blood to the people who hurt, abused and threatened him.
Dude keeps forgetting she has 3 dragons guarding her 😂 and he thinks he can threaten her twice
Drogon has always been a mummy's bully.
Once Mama wants someone handled roughly, he is always close by to do the honors😁
bro 😭
You should feel lucky to have a daughter someday half as loyal.
In game of thrones, it never fares well for people who claim to have powerful friends
Like a disgruntled parent at Denny's demanding a discount.
but his father himself made him a lord!
I have powerful friends in the capital!
Whenever I get sad, I just watch Queen Daenerys Targaryen clips and it’s like I’m healed 👑🔥🐉💜👏🏽
Razdal: Take back the Gold.
Drogon: That's my mom's now, and you never ever threaten my mom!
The writing from the last seasons is horrible because she’s a caring loving ruler who looks out for those trampled upon and enslaved. Having your heart broken doesn’t mean you’ve gone mad. Means you have a huge heart
I just love her dragons! I so do wish that I had my own.
👀👀
@@chisomo8088 : I know but I do! There is just people I really like to burn with a flame.
@@santeriabanks2930 🤣🤣
Same lol
Its was all so promising, once upon a time.
noone says a thing about the Hulk-like strength of those slave boys who carried up boxes of what looks like 600lbs of gold each like it was nothing
Yeah wtf was up with that? 😂
Love Drogon’s happy noises at the end.
He was always his mom's favorite
Dragons on the screen, and all I can think is that there’s no way those two guys would carry that gold.
That’s exactly what I said! As soon as those chests opened I was like noooo way you could easily carry that over. It would take about 6 guys each for that much gold.
Yeah, that many gold bars heavy as f
It was clearly a trick by the guy to make it seem like a lot of gold when it wasn't.
Like the "I have powerful friends".😉
A compassionate, yet ruthless Queen.
Ahh when drogon was little and cute😍 the only time ever in history where everyone can agree of not missing a tiny baby and appreciates the grown Savage they become
Drogon was such a mother's boy at the end... He came to her lap and was like, " Did i do good mom? "😂😂😂
Rewatching scenes like this just makes me even more upset and frankly pissed off at how they completely destroyed her in season 8. So much character development and build up, and for what? So D&D could hurry up and finish the show so they could create their big Star Wars series deal that didn’t even happen as a result of how awful their writing was for the final season of Game of Thrones? Oh the irony. I absolutely love the fact that House of the Dragon had succeeded far beyond what nonsense D&D came up with after they couldn’t rely on the source material from George R.R. Martin, despite the fact that they could’ve worked with him on the scripts for the final seasons. There’s a reason why House of the Dragon is such an amazing show and a large part of that is the fact that the show creators actually worked with George and created the show WITH HIM.. just like it always should’ve been with Game of Thrones from beginning to ESPECIALLY the end of the series.
Same, it annoys me when I see how great they wrote her in the show at the beginning...And yeah you don't see many ppl who really know WHY the show was so fucked at the end with them disappearing and caring about their new series they thought they were getting instead of taking care of GoT and not just let it go to shit. I'm as annoyed at those two shitheads as I am GRRM and he's really made me angry with him and his pissing on us SOIAF fans but that's anther thing all together. If George didn't waste 3 years of his self isolation from C19 and moaning and dooming about the Orange Man every day he could have finished the whole book series by now.
Hear hear. Rushed and stuffed!
3:21 the look she gives "and you threatened their mother" just chills all over my body, she's unbelievable actress
0:01 I just noticed that unsullied doesn't have a spearhead, lol
Dany: I will risk my alliances and my chance at the Iron Throne to free the slaves of this city
Also Dany Season 8: *BUUUURN BABY BURN, IT'S ON FIYAAAA!*
I think this was the first time everyone in the room realized that just killing and fighting battles wont work forever.
What do you mean it did work for them in this case
Now that is a Queen. She should have burned down King's Landing at the start when Cersi betrayed her. As Olenna Tyrell said "You're A Dragon, Be A Dragon"
She could have burned down the Red Keep and spared the city, who would likely have been grateful for ridding them of Cersei even though they weren't slaves in the same way as Meereen's underclass, and ruled the Seven Kingdoms with Jon Snow.. that would have been a more fitting ending for her character.
@@juliapigworthy How could they Rule together ? when she wanted to be Queen of the Seven Kingdoms and crush anyone who opposes her.
Powerfull people to carry a box that full of gold. Must be 300 kg for sure.
good observation 😅
Ah-ha. so it was a trick. Just wooden bars painted gold. Nice play Yunkaii masters
It was just one layer of gold bars. The rest of it underneath was just pillows. =D
Not sure the box was full of gold though.
Good boy, dragon. Protect our Daenarys.
watching this to remind myself the dance of dragons does not mean the end for targaryans
Dragons are her cats.
After protecting her gold they just want snuggles
world class talent. just sensational!!!!
I miss Original GoT shot in the outdoors with real skies. The new one was all shot inside a domed studio where its always gloomy and dull.
Haha, apparently two men can carry a chest of gold. People have no idea how much gold weighs. Those chests with the gold in them would be like 200-300 kgs.
Either they are very strong men or the box is not full of gold and is just a sample gift.
Closer to 1000 kg, I remember the last scene in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", where Eastwood slings $100,000 in gold onto a horse, and then rides the horse away. Over 150kg, plus a man, plus all his gear. He'd need a Percheron.
The dragons made no such promises and you have threatened their mother! Dude did you not hear her TITLES! 😂😂😂😂😂
No way would it be easy to carry that much gold with only 2 guys.
I like how this guy's "car" comes with it's own walking stereo. He's like yo play me a sick beat to roll up on this bitch with.
Seriously, think about it. Why would there be a drummer. "What do you do for a living? " "Oh I walk in front of the bosses human carriage and play a drum"....."Why?" "I....I dont know"
She is prob my favorite charater in series so far(i didnt watch series just yt im to young)😅
GoT is a good series, just remember it ends with season 7-possibly season six. Just remember that-it is important.
To be fair, those were pretty generous terms from Razdal.
back when danny was a well written character and not some comicbook villain who just wants to destroy everything.
Throwing that chunk of meat for the dragons to fight over was meant to intimidate/scare him.
Lol! You noticed that too. Yes, they're small (as dragons go) but still intimidating.
"PERHAPS WE'LL MAKE A SLAVE OF YOU AS WELL !!"
Drogon roars :
"..... You swore me safe conduct...... plz dont hurt me"
Always rewinding early scenes like these to catch all the dialogue because the writing is so good
The older you get, the more you realize that Daenerys' approach, while deeply inspiring, was also very unrealistic.
You can't just turn a system upside-down that quickly and expect things to go smoothly like a utopia. And when Daenerys ruled Meereen, she realized this for herself and was even forced to allow indentured servitude, to hold things together. That's why Tyrion's approach was smart, i.e. allow a 7-year transition period with the end goal of abolishing slavery, instead of snapping your finger and expecting it to switch off like a light bulb - doesn't quite work that way.
Not all that unrealistic considering the reality of change is something real life organizations are struggling to grasp.
Nothing changes overnight, but it's a hard pill to swallow.
"a single day of freedom is worth more than a lifetime in chains" - greyworm
"for a slave, a single day can feel like years" - Missandei
"I never held much with slavery […]. You can’t just go… usin’ another kind of people, like they wasn’t people at all. Know what I mean? Got to end, sooner or later. Better if it ends peaceful, but it’s got to end even if it has to be with fire and blood" - GRRM
The argument for a slow and planned out transition should not be used as an excuse for no transition at all-and no transition is what he is trying to bribe her into accepting in this scene.
@@pplr1 Oh totally agree with that.
Not even Tyrion's approach would have worked. She would have need to stay here indefinitely for it to work and set up new Kingdom or Republic Idk in Ghis. The old aristocracy was still very much around and they would need to dealt with or completely removed for the her reforms to successfully take root.
So much patience for her birth right the iron throne up until here all for common people and slaves she doesn't know but finally when she was eventually about to get everything she wanted she was shown more eagered and then mad all of a sudden. The people she lost isn't enough to turn her mad, she could have burned common people in a fit of rage and later regretted it and it all could have been like before but no she becomes the mad queen all of a sudden.
Exactly bruh. Like the mad queen story arc isn’t the problem, it’s how quick and sudden it was. It should’ve been a much longer, drawn out descent into madness. Over a season or 2. Not within a few fuckin episodes. And that’s what i always say too, like what made her instantly snap and go absolutely insane and slaughter innocent babies and an entire city? She didn’t do that when she lost all her close friends or her dragon or anything else, but missandei dying was enough to make her turn
Just realize her dress is basically pulled into the neck loop thing as one fabric. Pretty clever
She is one of a kind.
This is the Daenerys we loved, the one we knelt before. Not the Killer in Season 8. Daenerys wanted to Break the Wheel without killing any innocence.
You were supposed to be the chosen one!
I HATE YOU!!!
Emília é a melhor de sua geração. escandalosamente talentoso! mulher incrível
In the book it explores the slave trade more deeply. Dany is magnanimous in her want to free the slaves, however it's quick implemention devastates the economy and its citizens. Many former slaves go to her and tell her that they lived better as slaves and they were respected by their masters and preferred that to living in the streets. You get a bit of it here when the old man wanted to return to being a slave because he was cared for and loved by his owners but in the book it's more pronounced. Part of being a good ruler is knowing how to implement radical changes practically otherwise you'll anger everyone.
There are over 70 gold bars of roughly 2x8x20 cm size, therefore each weight over 6 kilo, so almost 500 kg in each chest. With such strong slaves, Yunkai has nothing to fear!
Drogon don't take shit from nobody when it comes to his mother😅 lil man was ready to break some throats even when he was a lil fella. He don't want nobody messing with his Momma. 🤞🤣
If i were her, and my goal is to concuer westeroos i would taken the gold and ships, and sailed elswhere until my forces are stronger and my dragons are growned, but thats just me...
Love how she puts him in a kiddy chair
She is the coolest actress on this planet😊And I really like all those dragons😊
To be honest he did offer her a pretty good deal
Gold bars like the one shown would weight about 25lbs each. I count nine just in the top layer of the chest on the left. That alone would be 225lbs. Unless there is a false bottom to the chests, there are at least 10 layers. That's 2250lbs, over a ton. And two slaves carry it. Wow...if they are that strong, why don't they just free themselves?
If true interesting catch. Probably not the worst logic flaw in the good seasons of GoT though.
The one true Queen!!!! 👑🔥🐉🙌🏽
Aww baby drogon! 😍
Drogon like, “hell nah! Dis my gold g! Dead ass!”
She is such a fabulous actress.
Danny is so fine
Ah... those first five and a half seasons.
How time flies, this was really 9 years ago?!
deyneries had all the jaw dropping moments of GOT
"What happens to things that don't bend?" Damn that was pretty good
I particularly don't care on Daenerys being mad. I just don't like the way they made it. Make such a great character suddenly mad out of a few sad events without a proper development is the same as ruining the character and throwing the whole previous development in trash.
Always fun to watch
SOOOOO BEAUTIFUL
Well played, Queen. Well played.
I love the dragon's appreciation for the value of gold.
U re telling me this Daenerys became mad ? Lol
She kind of forgot about not becoming mad.
She was crazy since the beginning
@@evgenitantikov5865 man stfu, d&d messed everything up
@@nottherey4333 because she didn't have the opportunity (power) to do it at the beginning, but it was clear, only fanboys couldn't see it.
She was the cutest this season
Can we just take a second and give this guy some serious credit. Not only did he just casually walk up to, but he also THREATENED a lady with 3, THREE actual dragons next to her. And he threatened her in a very aggressive tone at that. The freakin balls on this guy. I get that he was told that he had safe passage, but that's still THREE live juvenile dragons. That's like saying "hey you see that lady being protected by a pack of ferocious wolves that she raised from birth? Go attack her, the wolves probably won't do anything. Oh yeah, they also breathe fire".
'Now Get Out' , she said in an elegant thug way lol.
Imagine how long her name speech wouldve been had missandei survived the burning of kings landing
Accidentally dropped here... I don't know how is it written originally, however the scene lacks the royalty and here are the reasons why:
1. The Khalisee of Whole 27 kingdoms, of Westeros and Easteros, liberator of peaceful slave people of the Southsteros and so on and so forth would have better education and also, would practice that education (of aristocracy and relevant manners, ethics) as well not to BREAK HER PROMISES, as the word of the KING OF EVERYTHING AND ALL SHALL HAVE BEEN TRUSTED (At lease, in this kind of formal gatherings, where many eyes attend to see,, especially during times, when the death was was recording its accounts with red pencil). Having this said, the kind of meetings were well prepared, childish actions would also be excluded unless agitated by any of the parties, which didn't happen from the visitor.
2. With the comprehensive intro of the point 1, having title of the 'Queen who was not to be believed', adding - another nickname to it: 'the Thief Queen' would be also granted - Utterly Unacceptable for anyone - Especially the Ruler. Gift was part of the negotiation.
3. Gold is gold - Anytime, Anywhere!. However no Ruler would act as a poor, greedy, indecent being (Peckerwood?), would even strictly abstain from expressing their uttermost desire of that golden pieces.
There are few more points, but I have even more important business to do. I just wrote it all above (which is more than enough to get the point) for prospective rulers of Allsteros, to not reiterate the mistakes of Khalisi. Not for you, Vagabond bast.3#@cm3r(*#&&#@&(!_09bc!!
The End
If you wonder why Daenerys is writen to have wit and humor in this episode as opposed to always stoic as she usually is portrayed in the show, it is because this episode was written by grrm inatead of d&d
She was beautiful freeing slaves …
Or was she just being righteous but did not actually care about the slaves.
Performative woke princess doing tokenism.
@@Sujay95 stfu how is it anything like that
I'm still love this movies until now 2023
back when drogon and his bros were teensy little bois 🥺😭
I like the way the queen does business..!😂😂
The most polite “please f*ck off” I’ve ever seen.
Personally, I would have f*cked off but that’s just me
D&D to each other:
👨🦱: The masters said she was mad...so she goes mad!!
👨🦱: BRILLIANT! Write it, and let's shoot it!
🕺🕺: Whoop whoop! 🎉
Anyone gonna talk about how casually 4 slaves carried in 2 full chests of solid gold
And they are so skinny too
Great stuff!
Shes an absolute boss. Wtf happened in season 8? Disaster.