I do wonder if a level of fame is part of it. When you think of everyone you can name from history, there are the royals and super rich, those considered great in their field, and serial killers. Obviously not all serial killers are remembered, but as it's the easiest option to possibly be remembered, I can't help wondering if that's a reason someone has chosen to kill.
I think the obsession with serial killers is a modern, and largely American phenomenon. Like, I think true crime has spread to other places at this point, but traditionally this is an American thing. Kind of like pickup trucks.
@gustav champoski Sherlock Holmes has nothing to do with this phenomenon. Sherlock is a fictional story, Jack The Ripper and other serial killers are real people that exist of have existed.
@@dstinnettmusic David is it? David I'm not American and I have killed. Not for fame, not because I have some odd voice telling me to. Not because the devil made me do anything. I despise people. That's my motive nothing more nothing less. I usually look for the pretty boy, the tough guy or the nerdy rich boy who likes to dabble in drugs. I study that person and then wait. 43 countries. Each person hadn't a clue what was coming. I was a very experienced person at what I do. It helps if you worked for a government who paid you or the cartel or mafia. They pay very well to have people exterminated. Most of the people I mentioned above were people who owed money to a client didn't pay and ended up in a river or in a bog. Realize this simple point. People learn skills and some later use the skills learned to make money or simply because they didn't like the smell of the guy in the pub. They decided to wrap piano wire around that persons neck and robbed them and walked off. There is a network on the deep net that is specifically for killers to share information.
I think it's the same reason people love roller coasters and horror movies. People like to be scared yet in a safe environment. It gets the adrenaline pumping but your safe at home on your couch. Then they get addicted to that "high" like a it's a drug. Just an opinion.
I think because women are often the victims it’s a way to learn about what could happen to them and what they can do to avoid it. Instead of just being afraid and helpless it’s empowering to look it in the face.
Serial killers CAN stop killing, Dennis Rader is a fantastic example. he stopped killing for years because of family matters, some don't stop, however others do stop. Serial killers are always quite the complicated subject matter. all I will say about motives is remember what Junko Enoshima from Danganronpa said 'there are just as many motives for murder as there are people in this world'
@@JohnLee-bw3co yep, i would hardly call any of the most notable serial killers 'crazy' per se. I mean most of them appeared to be your average joe or average jane. I mean they can so normal that you go to their business(as in Robert Hansen who was nicknamed the Butcher Baker, he was from Archorage, Alaska and owned a bakery but who take women into the wild and 'hunt them' if you catch my gist), and who would call Ed Kemper crazy? Ed Kemper is the co-ed killer
It’s a shame it got cut off at two seasons as the later plan was to highlight that even more. (Plus there was a reason the episodes kept having little cold opens showing BTK, someone who really didn’t fit into any of the profiles they were putting together in the show)
These are artificial boxes. Like, is a mafia guy with a high body count a serial killer? I wouldn’t say automatically, unless he got into the mafia so he could kill. To me, the motive is what matters. My definition is more narrow and would leave out people who kill as a “job”, the “truly mentally ill”, financial motive, etc. so Richard Chase? Not a Serial Killer, just a disturbed individual who society failed with deadly consequences. BTK. Serial Killer. He wanted to kill just to kill. I’d break it down as Serial Killer - people with a compulsion to kill and have done it more than once Spree Killer - people who, for whatever reason, kill multiple people. Usually notoriety driven Mentally ill - someone whose mental disturbance drives them to kill Career murderer - people who kill for a job These can obviously overlap, but I find this a much more useful way of thinking than x number of murders with x amount of time in between
It's 3 the FBI crime classification manual has the answer. They are the one who created the term and as such are the only ones who have the correct answer
I'm not sure how you can be a serial killer and not be mentally ill. Sane people don't repeatedly commit murder. However, while serial killers must all be mentally ill, the vast majority of mentally ill people are not murders, much less serial killers.
You're assuming that people feel anything when they kill. Some people get used to killing and some get paid to kill some kill simply because they hate people in general. Hating someone isn't mental illness. Are you a psychiatrist? What university did you go to ? Where did you do you internship? Unlike the majority of English speaking people who make generalizations and broad sweeping statements about a subject they haven't personally experienced I on the other hand have killed. Got paid to do it the first time... you like whiskey? Single malt? If we meet I'll bring you a bottle. I'll leave it at your doorstep not to alarm you too much.
@@JohnLee-bw3co Killed someone or murdered someone? Not the same thing. Did you kill someone for money or because you hated them? It sounds like you're trying to justify your act both ways. If you killed someone because you hated them, why did you hate them?
Myths about crypto? That it is not, effectively, an MLM, that the celebs pushing it actually understand it, that it will replace fiat currency, that it isn't faith based, that it is anything like the gold standard,* that crypto is secure *Actually the gold standard is also faith based, but at least there is something tangible associated with it.
That is a good point, responsible statistical analysis often does involve a maximum deviation filter before taking the mean. That having been said, I don't know if this data set is big enough to compute reliable stats.
Clinically insane....isn't a thing. One can be ruled not criminally responsible or insane in the context of a court, but clinicians taking care of a person as a patient do not rule someone as sane or insane.
Misconception - Serial killers aren't as popular anymore as they were back in the day. Truth - Most serial killers aren't televised anymore because they all commit their murders in places like Chicago.
Seems like an unsourced claim based in a political bias, but okay. The truth is that social media just makes it easier to catch people. People are just getting arrested with much lower body counts. “Hmmm….everyone killed talked to this one guy on Facebook”
@@dstinnettmusic what do you get when you combine poor low income neighborhoods with under policed streets, and a DA that isn't willing to prosecute. You get a lot of unsolved murders. Look at the Mexican drug cartels, they routinely employ serial killers among their ranks. No one is going to stop them in an area where they control the streets.
For serial killers not being smarter than the average joe, I say to you BTK Killer. Dude got caught...because he had an issue with a computer component...and asked police if they could find any info on him...with his computer being out of service. He literally turned himself in. Because they told him they wouldn't be able to find anything on him. He was NOT smart. Hollywood is typically people's first exposure to real topics, and I wish they took it more seriously: 1) Psychopaths (and others in the dark personality triad) are the ones you want to be most wary of, and even then, it's mostly only if they were raised improperly (and you will not be able to tell until it's either much later or way too late, as they have studied people intensely [since they don't feel things, they need to study social ways] and act as smooth talkers, until they don't get their way with you). Schizophrenics are usually not a threat to anyone, and autistic people have the capability to be a huge threat (as their filters for their strength are non-existent sometimes, they can go super overboard on how they react physically without actually meaning to hurt anyone). 2) Laws. 3) Law enforcement. 4) Criminals. 5) Investigative processes. 6) Cats.
Correct, more often than not they are unsecured jpegs hosted even less securely than that. The transaction is on the block chain, the token itself is not. Go watch Line Goes Up.
OK, I think you are incorrect. If I understand correctly, the actual NFT is a pointer to a link to where the jpeg is, codified into a blockchain.* A jpeg is actually totally fungible. I mean, still BS, but a slightly different BS. *Sometimes NFT drops include other stuff, like actual artwork, but the NFT itself is what I am referencing
‘Sometimes they find an outlet in consensual or solitary sexual activities’ Um source? Serial killers can get over killing by having presumably kinky sex? Yeah I’m gonna need a source for that one bud.
I mean, there are cases of serial killers who have gone through long cooling off period while in relationships that they are satisfied in. Similarly, Dennis Rader aka BTK, found satisfaction in his work as a dog catcher. He was able to get away with executing people’s family pets whenever he needed his fix, which he obviously recognized as a safe outlet.
@@dstinnettmusic Please correct me if Im wrong but it says that the BTK had a 'decade long hiatus' before resuming sending letters to the police. So, he had a break (we think) ... But ultimately he went back to being a werido. So, I question specifically if sex (as was mentioned in the video) can cure peole of being serial killers.
Suggestions for the Crypto thing: Cryptocurrency can just go poof if the web site/wallet is hacked. Cold wallets are safer than hot wallets. Cryptocurrency's value is based merely on speculation of buyers and sellers.
> Cryptocurrency's value is based merely on speculation of buyers and sellers. How does that method compare to the value of other currencies like USD, Euro, etc.?
Crypto misconceptions: crypto is anonymous and can’t be traced Crypto can accurately be described as currency at all Crypto is different from last speculative bubbles
1) Line Goes Up already covered it. 2) Just because something is unbelievably impractical as a currency doesn't _definitionally_ exclude it from being one. Therefore this statement would have to be presented as an argument, not a fact. Making it a poor fit for a "fun fact" channel like this one. Again, just watch Line Goes Up. 3) A "bubble" is an analysis, not a fact. Have you heard of Line Goes Up?
I am an expert on this subject and addressed this same info in The New Evil: Understanding the Emergence of Modern Violent Crime. Much of this sounds like it matches what I wrote there, making me wonder if this was part of the research for this video.
Women usually use poison, and don’t get caught as often because they aren’t “hunters” (they usually kill people they’ve known in some capacity, not someone they randomly see on the street) and have the means to easily cover up their crimes due to the less messy methods. Also, look up Giulia Tofana (or Toffana or Tophana)
crypto-currency will start being useful when more people go back using it for its intended purpose of using it to buy and sell things, as... you know... CURRENCY.
A misconception about crypto? That it must be detrimental to the environment. It CAN be no more wasteful, energy-wise, than any other thing (there's a new method that doesn't necessitate revving a computer's engine to the max at all times); the problem may stem from people switching over to the new method. (Still harmful and bad, though, just not NECESSARILY in that way.)
So true 🙂 I have Schizoaffective disorder. The only person ever in danger was myself
I do wonder if a level of fame is part of it. When you think of everyone you can name from history, there are the royals and super rich, those considered great in their field, and serial killers. Obviously not all serial killers are remembered, but as it's the easiest option to possibly be remembered, I can't help wondering if that's a reason someone has chosen to kill.
I think the obsession with serial killers is a modern, and largely American phenomenon. Like, I think true crime has spread to other places at this point, but traditionally this is an American thing.
Kind of like pickup trucks.
@gustav champoski Sherlock Holmes has nothing to do with this phenomenon. Sherlock is a fictional story, Jack The Ripper and other serial killers are real people that exist of have existed.
@@dstinnettmusic David is it? David I'm not American and I have killed. Not for fame, not because I have some odd voice telling me to. Not because the devil made me do anything. I despise people. That's my motive nothing more nothing less. I usually look for the pretty boy, the tough guy or the nerdy rich boy who likes to dabble in drugs. I study that person and then wait. 43 countries. Each person hadn't a clue what was coming. I was a very experienced person at what I do. It helps if you worked for a government who paid you or the cartel or mafia. They pay very well to have people exterminated. Most of the people I mentioned above were people who owed money to a client didn't pay and ended up in a river or in a bog. Realize this simple point. People learn skills and some later use the skills learned to make money or simply because they didn't like the smell of the guy in the pub. They decided to wrap piano wire around that persons neck and robbed them and walked off. There is a network on the deep net that is specifically for killers to share information.
The royals and the super rich are arguably serial killers too
@@livermoro which ones? 😂🤣🤣😆😆🤣😂🤣😆😆😂 Thai royal family? Japanese royal family? Cambodian royal family? Pick one..
Really killing it with the hair, Justin 😘
People are weirdly overly-fascinated about serial killers nowadays. I also find it really odd how a lot of girls like serial killers and murder shows
Tbh, I think it's morbid curiosity
I think it's the same reason people love roller coasters and horror movies. People like to be scared yet in a safe environment. It gets the adrenaline pumping but your safe at home on your couch. Then they get addicted to that "high" like a it's a drug. Just an opinion.
@@crispypickles8466 I’d say those are 2 different things
I think because women are often the victims it’s a way to learn about what could happen to them and what they can do to avoid it. Instead of just being afraid and helpless it’s empowering to look it in the face.
they don't go after cereal
Very common misconception
Serial killers CAN stop killing, Dennis Rader is a fantastic example. he stopped killing for years because of family matters, some don't stop, however others do stop. Serial killers are always quite the complicated subject matter. all I will say about motives is remember what Junko Enoshima from Danganronpa said 'there are just as many motives for murder as there are people in this world'
That's what he said
@@happyfacefries i know, did you NOT read the whole comment? -_-
Very true, too many motives and one doesn't necessarily have to be (crazy) to be a serial killer.
@@JohnLee-bw3co yep, i would hardly call any of the most notable serial killers 'crazy' per se. I mean most of them appeared to be your average joe or average jane. I mean they can so normal that you go to their business(as in Robert Hansen who was nicknamed the Butcher Baker, he was from Archorage, Alaska and owned a bakery but who take women into the wild and 'hunt them' if you catch my gist), and who would call Ed Kemper crazy? Ed Kemper is the co-ed killer
You are thinking Criminal Minds.
Mind Hunter is based on _actual_ (if glorified) early cases of profiling where it frequently does not work.
It’s a shame it got cut off at two seasons as the later plan was to highlight that even more.
(Plus there was a reason the episodes kept having little cold opens showing BTK, someone who really didn’t fit into any of the profiles they were putting together in the show)
@@fitandhappy42 one doesn't really need to fit a profile to be a killer. I think many of them who have been killing for more then 20 years know this.
I always learned it was a minimum of 3 murders over a period of time to be considered a serial killer. 2 killings, it’s just a double murder.
I believe the FBI changed their categorisation recently
@@EM_1989 oh yeah I’ve just had a look, some say 2, some say it has to be 4!
These are artificial boxes.
Like, is a mafia guy with a high body count a serial killer? I wouldn’t say automatically, unless he got into the mafia so he could kill.
To me, the motive is what matters. My definition is more narrow and would leave out people who kill as a “job”, the “truly mentally ill”, financial motive, etc. so Richard Chase? Not a Serial Killer, just a disturbed individual who society failed with deadly consequences. BTK. Serial Killer. He wanted to kill just to kill.
I’d break it down as
Serial Killer - people with a compulsion to kill and have done it more than once
Spree Killer - people who, for whatever reason, kill multiple people. Usually notoriety driven
Mentally ill - someone whose mental disturbance drives them to kill
Career murderer - people who kill for a job
These can obviously overlap, but I find this a much more useful way of thinking than x number of murders with x amount of time in between
It's 3 the FBI crime classification manual has the answer. They are the one who created the term and as such are the only ones who have the correct answer
A "double murder" is when two people are murdered at the same time. If they're not at the same time, it's two separate murders.
No one: 0:03
Me: nervous laughter
thanks to everyone who makes this show, I rather like it
I'm not sure how you can be a serial killer and not be mentally ill. Sane people don't repeatedly commit murder.
However, while serial killers must all be mentally ill, the vast majority of mentally ill people are not murders, much less serial killers.
You're assuming that people feel anything when they kill. Some people get used to killing and some get paid to kill some kill simply because they hate people in general. Hating someone isn't mental illness. Are you a psychiatrist? What university did you go to ? Where did you do you internship? Unlike the majority of English speaking people who make generalizations and broad sweeping statements about a subject they haven't personally experienced I on the other hand have killed. Got paid to do it the first time... you like whiskey? Single malt? If we meet I'll bring you a bottle. I'll leave it at your doorstep not to alarm you too much.
@@JohnLee-bw3co Killed someone or murdered someone? Not the same thing.
Did you kill someone for money or because you hated them? It sounds like you're trying to justify your act both ways. If you killed someone because you hated them, why did you hate them?
@@JohnLee-bw3co i wonder where hate came from.
@@jliller killing murdering is the same thing. You won't be breathing now will you.
@@jliller both.
Myths about crypto? That it is not, effectively, an MLM, that the celebs pushing it actually understand it, that it will replace fiat currency, that it isn't faith based, that it is anything like the gold standard,* that crypto is secure
*Actually the gold standard is also faith based, but at least there is something tangible associated with it.
The subtweets at Mindhunter in this are so strong. Edit: Okay, they just mentioned it by name. Nevermind.
everything we know about serial killers, we have learned from the ones we have discovered and captured
Kinda the opposite of a survivor bias if you really think about it.
Now do one on Mass Shootings.
When the unabomber is left out the explosive group, is the iq still so high?
He wasn’t really a serial killer though. He was a terrorist. Bin Laden wasn’t a serial killer.
Yeah, he was super smart. I went to UM for grad school and his name was down on a plaque as having won best math thesis for that year …
That is a good point, responsible statistical analysis often does involve a maximum deviation filter before taking the mean. That having been said, I don't know if this data set is big enough to compute reliable stats.
@@greenredblue I was wondering the same.
@@greenredblue i searched Wikipedia for serial bombers and found 7 serial bombers. One of them died before they could arrest him. So the sample is 6.
Let me guess one: They hate Breakfast?
...see-what-i-did-there...
Cheerio! Lock them up for Life.
I’ll see myself out….
@@gary4760 '...I'm here through next Thursday...'
I don't get it : maybe my iq is too low .
@@kuntamdc Cerial Killers... ;)
Justin'd kill it playing Trump in SNL. That'd be *his killing spree.
Clinically insane....isn't a thing. One can be ruled not criminally responsible or insane in the context of a court, but clinicians taking care of a person as a patient do not rule someone as sane or insane.
So there is hope for Dexter?
Wow , mental floss did it . Hubris ...
Myth about crypto? That it's worth getting into
All True Crime fans (fanatics?) already know all this. ;O)
Although I don't trust IQ Tests.
Misconception - Serial killers aren't as popular anymore as they were back in the day.
Truth - Most serial killers aren't televised anymore because they all commit their murders in places like Chicago.
Seems like an unsourced claim based in a political bias, but okay.
The truth is that social media just makes it easier to catch people. People are just getting arrested with much lower body counts.
“Hmmm….everyone killed talked to this one guy on Facebook”
@@dstinnettmusic what do you get when you combine poor low income neighborhoods with under policed streets, and a DA that isn't willing to prosecute.
You get a lot of unsolved murders.
Look at the Mexican drug cartels, they routinely employ serial killers among their ranks. No one is going to stop them in an area where they control the streets.
For serial killers not being smarter than the average joe, I say to you BTK Killer. Dude got caught...because he had an issue with a computer component...and asked police if they could find any info on him...with his computer being out of service. He literally turned himself in. Because they told him they wouldn't be able to find anything on him. He was NOT smart. Hollywood is typically people's first exposure to real topics, and I wish they took it more seriously:
1) Psychopaths (and others in the dark personality triad) are the ones you want to be most wary of, and even then, it's mostly only if they were raised improperly (and you will not be able to tell until it's either much later or way too late, as they have studied people intensely [since they don't feel things, they need to study social ways] and act as smooth talkers, until they don't get their way with you). Schizophrenics are usually not a threat to anyone, and autistic people have the capability to be a huge threat (as their filters for their strength are non-existent sometimes, they can go super overboard on how they react physically without actually meaning to hurt anyone).
2) Laws.
3) Law enforcement.
4) Criminals.
5) Investigative processes.
6) Cats.
Cats?
They're smart at whatever they do?
Justin Dodd’s eyelashes are so damn sexy I don’t care about saying that lol
Who is doing legitimate IQ tests on all the serial killers????
Criminal psychologists looking for predictive patterns.
FBI, government. If they make certain claims they will pain have them tested.
I got a crypto misconception: NFTs aren’t just jpegs hosted on google servers.
Correct, more often than not they are unsecured jpegs hosted even less securely than that.
The transaction is on the block chain, the token itself is not.
Go watch Line Goes Up.
OK, I think you are incorrect. If I understand correctly, the actual NFT is a pointer to a link to where the jpeg is, codified into a blockchain.* A jpeg is actually totally fungible. I mean, still BS, but a slightly different BS.
*Sometimes NFT drops include other stuff, like actual artwork, but the NFT itself is what I am referencing
‘Sometimes they find an outlet in consensual or solitary sexual activities’ Um source? Serial killers can get over killing by having presumably kinky sex? Yeah I’m gonna need a source for that one bud.
Who said anything about kink?
I mean, there are cases of serial killers who have gone through long cooling off period while in relationships that they are satisfied in.
Similarly, Dennis Rader aka BTK, found satisfaction in his work as a dog catcher. He was able to get away with executing people’s family pets whenever he needed his fix, which he obviously recognized as a safe outlet.
@@dstinnettmusic Please correct me if Im wrong but it says that the BTK had a 'decade long hiatus' before resuming sending letters to the police. So, he had a break (we think) ... But ultimately he went back to being a werido. So, I question specifically if sex (as was mentioned in the video) can cure peole of being serial killers.
Crypto myth, it has value
😂I guess if you're in a first world country it has no value but those other people see the value
Suggestions for the Crypto thing:
Cryptocurrency can just go poof if the web site/wallet is hacked.
Cold wallets are safer than hot wallets.
Cryptocurrency's value is based merely on speculation of buyers and sellers.
> Cryptocurrency's value is based merely on speculation of buyers and sellers.
How does that method compare to the value of other currencies like USD, Euro, etc.?
👀
Crypto myth: You can get rich off of Crypto 😂
Crypto misconceptions: crypto is anonymous and can’t be traced
Crypto can accurately be described as currency at all
Crypto is different from last speculative bubbles
1) Line Goes Up already covered it.
2) Just because something is unbelievably impractical as a currency doesn't _definitionally_ exclude it from being one. Therefore this statement would have to be presented as an argument, not a fact. Making it a poor fit for a "fun fact" channel like this one. Again, just watch Line Goes Up.
3) A "bubble" is an analysis, not a fact. Have you heard of Line Goes Up?
@@greenredblue I also have watched Line Goes Up lol
@@dstinnettmusic In honor of preposterous currencies, have you heard of Rai stones? They're fun
Considering it's purpose is a medium of exchange for goods and services, I'd say cryptocurrency is currency.
Crypto currency was named after Superman's dog
If you hate criminal minds just say so 😂😂
#583
I am an expert on this subject and addressed this same info in The New Evil: Understanding the Emergence of Modern Violent Crime. Much of this sounds like it matches what I wrote there, making me wonder if this was part of the research for this video.
Women need to catch up
Women usually use poison, and don’t get caught as often because they aren’t “hunters” (they usually kill people they’ve known in some capacity, not someone they randomly see on the street) and have the means to easily cover up their crimes due to the less messy methods.
Also, look up Giulia Tofana (or Toffana or Tophana)
Actually, men need to slow down.
Crypto myth: crypto is a good currency.
Today you look like Ernest Hemingway and a bag of Bazooka Joe bubble gum had a baby.
crypto-currency will start being useful when more people go back using it for its intended purpose of using it to buy and sell things, as... you know... CURRENCY.
A misconception about crypto? That it must be detrimental to the environment. It CAN be no more wasteful, energy-wise, than any other thing (there's a new method that doesn't necessitate revving a computer's engine to the max at all times); the problem may stem from people switching over to the new method. (Still harmful and bad, though, just not NECESSARILY in that way.)
No one cares