"Spacebridge 2013" - Phil Donahue and Vladimir Pozner
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2014
- In 1985, during the Cold War, Phil Donahue and Vladimir Pozner hosted televised discussions between audiences in the Soviet Union and the US, via satellite. The pair became friends and remain so today.
During TNP 2013, Donahue and Pozner reunite on stage with TNP co-founder Tom Scott where the duo have an emotional recounting of Pozner's up-bringing and his first time out of the Soviet Union in in 38 years - where his first stop was the The Phil Donahue Show.
Pozner makes a good point about the media being equally biased both in Russia and the US. The only difference is that many Russians know how to read between the lines while the Americans basically believe anything their media tells them, particularly about other countries, and particularly about those they know little about.
+John Galt Вы слишком хорошего мнения о россиянах. Я думаю, что многие россияне как раз не умеют читать между строк. Об американцах не скажу, так как не знаю.
+Denis Краснохув По крайней мере никто так не занимается самобичеванием как россияне, боясь показаться предвзятыми. Правда в последние годы многие к неудовольствию журналюг на Западе и в странах-лимитрофах стали понимать, что их просто используют в информационной войне...
Well said!
John Galt good point
in fact only a small portion of Russians would read between the lines
and actually all such people have already lost the trust to major official media
"and he was the son my mother wanted to have" lol))))))))))
7 being exaggeration though
i know of 3 langs he's fluent in: English, French, Russian
also having certain proficiency in Italian, German and Spanish
and i can't even guess what the 7th is...
It would be awesome to have this kind of spacebridge today - with personalities from the US, Russia, China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Iran, Japan rotating in debates, + a random smaller country representative each time. And the UN countries should make an agreement that it would be aired on prime time in all those countries.
Videos like this need more views.
Respect for both men. Pozner is simply brilliant, Donahue a bit less but makes it up for with passion.
Greetings from Czechia, the heart of Europe.
It would be nice just to have a political talk show on tv again. In America we are only allowed to watch Jerry Springer and Dr.Phil.
Pozner - a great intellectual, a man with the most interesting and fascinating biography. He could have a great success in the US or France if not his, though talented, but communist father who took him to Russia. What would you do if you were in the same situation that he was? He was not Russian at all, he was a guy from NYC and suddenly he lost everything, his friends, his beloved jazz music, even his toys bought in the US, as that was forbidden in USSR. He was a victim, however he was as genious that he could become who he is now - the great Vladimir Pozner. Love you Mr Pozner.....
@Sophie Amiet nobody knows it
Just Love YOU VLADIMIR POZNER
i have admired and followed the career of vladimir pozner since 1985. have read parting with illusions twice and go back periodically to re-read certain passages, especially about his relationship with his father.. .pozner is eloquent, brilliant, and wish there were more online about him and could access the pozner file, not your average russian, his appearances on donahue. love this video!
is there any possible way that Vladimir Pozner's 1986 appearances on Phil Donahue could be accessed and uploaded?
@@denisesimpson591 there's a lot of stuff about him, like him giving several interviews in Russian
So great it was to hear them both!
It is only the second time that I hear Vladimir Pozner and for me his comments are understandable and agreeable. For world peace a Slavic Canadian.
Thank you Phil and Vladimir. I enjoyed your show in the 1980s and enjoyed your recent talk with Vladimir.
I wish this video could be seen by more of the American and Russian public. The major point about how both countries have abandoned diplomacy for war posturing is essential for the public to understand, if we don't start to question our media and our leaders when they lead us to conflict then we're going to face imminent extinction.
Мы видим😎
"So why screw the Russians? Why not say, "screw the Chinese"? Well... I don't now, they aren't screwable I guess..." )))))
Way to go Mr. Pozner, waaay to go! )))))
Timely and secure to discuss our international community.
Awesome story tell and very open and true
Pozner respect
Пожалуй Познер единственный человек кому выпал уникальный шанс непредвзято судить обо всем произошедшем в годы перестройки как со стороны США так и России. Жаль что сейчас у каждого своя правда, и его рассказы уже никому не интересны.
до сих пор в удовольствием слушаю )))) и до сих пор интересно
Where is google translation?
Maxim Golovlev Вы правы, он раньше более справедливо относился но ...........сейчас старается превозгласить " оnly about jewish people" . Но надо отдать должное ,что он силён на французском, на английском.
@@angeleast2388 (as requested) Well, Pozner is the only one person who had a chance to have impartial opinion about the perestroika time (USSR demolition) from the both, Americans and Russians sight of view. Sad, but every hero has his own true and his stories are stuffy nowadays.
My respect both of them, because they are intelligents.
Vladimir Pozner=honesty,intelligence,tact,wide open minded.
Vladimir Pozner= two dollar whore who will say ANYTHING he paid for.
That is hilarious. He has literally admitted that he was just performing propaganda for the Soviet Union. He did so in an interview on NPR and in his own autobiography!! 😅
18:16 - It's very painful, when you really want to believe in something and you do, and then gradually you see that you belief is misplaced
I think a lot of people in the US are thinking that now.
So what were you believing in?
@@jknvorneb
As much in American as Pozner wanted to believe in Russia. We are building a country that creates a-holes as its main type of citizen.
Those red socks on both of these ambitious friends! :) Pozner is one of a kind and his background has shaped him into who he is. Then, of course, Russian education added it's spark. His ability to speak many languages without an accent is simply fascinating! Jews are God's people so the blessing is there, whether you believe in God or not. People, who have never left their native Country, are usually not that well rounded.
Pizner is still a handsome man with a handsome mind.
Does he have a slight accent?))
who is the neanderthalian next to Donahue and Pozner?
The host is a co-founder of Nantucket Nectars
The biggest problem with the west is the same point Pozner has made on several occasions about Russia, the ones that are in charge are the ones that grew up in the old Soviet era and still have that same mentality.
We need fresh young thinkers on both sides before anything will change.
Phil finally revealed his alleged lover? A source very close to Donahue told me Phil and Vlad were lovers and Marlo was a beard.
How many decades will it take for you guys to understand that you can have freedom and not abuse it...same as you can have ANY system and not abuse it. You need to look at the structures in society and build one which takes care of the bottom as well as allows for competition. You don't NEED to destroy anything to not allow ppl to die. It wasn't a lie...the belief needs PRACTICALITY. You can't destroy other countries due to ideology! I don't care what you call it!
In theory, yes...
Capitalism is not a just system- so true
Neither was communism
China of today is better than Russia of today on protection of private property. That’s why Russia does not attract investments, private factories etc. , but China does. But on freedom of speech China is criticized in the west.
Phil is more of a Commie than Pozner. True.
+roynexus6 What makes you think that Donahue is "more of a Commie" than Pozner? I think that only sounds quite McCarthyesque.
+Robert Polanco because no amount of Leftwing propaganda and sloganeering can change the history. Indeed, Sen. Joe McCarthy was right.
Joe McCarthy was a vicious politician. A bastard. I don't think that any amount of right-wing propaganda and sloganeering can change the reality of what the man had done.
Pozner is a commie all right. The difference between the two is that Pozner in the Soviet used to a KGB reporter. Ordinary honest people got arrested sent to GULAG and killed after his reports. Today Puzner is openly advocating for Putin, he is Putin's propaganda stooge in the West. But nobody seems to be listening to that silly old fart called pozner.
@@user-tb7ye7fb8f - That is the most pathetic comment I have ever read! If Pozner was a Communist, SO WHAT! BIG DEAL! People like you are an example why America is still under a paranoid influence because of the Soviet Union of yesterday and the Russia of today!
Pozner is impressive but you should see the interviews he did in the mid 80's - Soviet Russia has little crime and little alcoholism, we allow homosexuals but it's almost does not exist in Russia, sexual assaults in the Soviet Union are curiously not really known to us. He was a mouth piece for the commies and Donahue knows it. They are making money together now.
Sinjin My big respect for your real reply
I think in Arab countries are the same. Yet nobody dares to talk bad about them. Why? Because of oil, gas or the world is full with chickens?
Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but I remember these televised discussions between the USA and Soviet Union very well. In theory they were a great idea. In fact, they were so much BS. The American audience was very forthcoming about the very real problems that existed in the USA. The Russian audience acted as if they were living in some kind of utopia. Very little crime, almost no alcoholism, no sexual assaults. The Soviet audience even denied the existence of homosexuals in the Soviet Union. lmao. Sadly, Donahue was too stupid to realize what a fiasco it was. 60 minutes of Americans telling painful truths about the USA while the Soviet audience just ate it up and acted as if no such problems existed there. The Soviet audience was full of stooges. Pozner admitted in an interview in 2005 on NPR's On the Media that "What I was doing was propaganda. You know, as someone who's gone through this and someone who regrets having done what he's done and who spent many, many years of his life and I think probably the best years of my life, doing something that was wrong, I say it just isn't worth it" In his own autobiography, he admitted that many of his positions in defense of the Soviet Union were wrong and immoral. What else does the guy have to do for people to realize he's a shill. He's admitted it himself!! My goodness.
My biggest problem with this kind of talk is that it is sooooo elitist. As "liberal" as these guys are--and that's better than screwball, right-wing fascism---they never once mention the millions upon millions of average people in this world who have no running water, who have to save up to buy a pair of shoes, don't know what a paid vacation is, and have never even traveled ONE TIME outside their native country. I am a 62-year old American and have never been able to afford to travel abroad. I'm not that unusual, I know. I have relatives who can say the same. Yet probably like most Soviet citizens, I am deeply grateful for great health care, plenty of food, a good education, and comfortable housing. Why do people like Donahue, Pozner, and their class need so much, much more? Why do they forget us average people so quickly?
nice story, but maybe you are in some kind of comfort zone, where you have plenty of food and security. and no need for further steps
@@DeadnWoon that's total BS. I grew up in Soviet Union. 120 was on the high side, not average - most people made way less than that. And they most certainly couldn't spend 10 rubles for a restaurant. That's not to say that I don't have fond memories, but god almighty we had so many problems!
@@DeadnWoon uhm, sure - maybe on paper. Because the "average" was skewed by the party aparatchiks who gave themselves ridiculous salaries.
@@DeadnWoon so? My mother was a ретушер (don't know how to translate) and she made 200 roubles a month. Doesn't prove anything.
Communism was built in Russia by Jews. KGB (their secret service) was created and led by Jews.
US is run by Jews. So is it Jews vs Jews war?
European civilisation (that the American one belongs to, as well) was built on the foundation of Christianity. Christianity was built on the foundation of Judaism. Therefore...
This is why I don't like ideologues. STOP COMPARING TO WORSE...why aren't you comparing to BETTER!? instead of looking to worse to make yourself feel better? Why r the Russian oligarchs not mentioned? Ur still fighting over ideas....instead of looking at the substance and actions behind those ideas. Putin blew up plenty of children, don't worry. If Obama screwed up, we have war crimes tribunals.
We need the newer generations to step up. And retire these guys already. No sane ppl want to blow up anyone.
It's not about what he looks like, it's about the ppl he hurts and it's about the fact that all of you guys are perfectly happy compromising on dumb fronts, based on incomplete knowledge and ignoring the ppl who have a little bit more experience dealing with Putin types then u do. Ur still either fighting over ideology or abandoning morals completely. Retire. Go for a walk on the beach, sip lemonade, stop interfering in world events. You've never lived under Soviet Russia Mr Donahue. You don't get KGB mentality. U treat it as if it's all just another story and the problems can be fixed by putting some makeup on Putin. And the Terrorists just need someone to talk to them. Nothing in your history, nothing, has given you any real experience with this stuff. The worst Irish man ever born, is no where near the level of brutality of autocratic governments. U just don't get it. And most days I hope ur ignorance protects you, I really do. But most likely you'll learn too late what others already learned decades ago.
You cannot "talk" the terror tactics out of them. It's not an accident, it's ingrained and it spanned centuries. You think ur dealing with a pissed off bull, but it's a tiger ... calming it down won't be enough. It likes hunting. It's not attacking u bc it needs to. It likes to. Difference. Big difference. A hungry tiger is more dangerous...but it will still hunt bc it's in his nature. Autocracies don't work.
Obama screwed up, he committed the most wars and received Nobel Peace Prize. Voila!
Uh, the way he is telling his story in English adjusted to American listeners compared to the way he speaks Russian language is yukky. Really, I believe I am not the only one of the bilingual audience who may have noticed the difference between his quite liberal and less intelligent American English and intelligent, nice to listen Russian instead ways of self-expression.
Still, I enjoyed his speech and liked this video!
Donahue's lisp still annoying as ever!
#VladimirPosner
No. 1. Phil D onahue says Posner's father worked for MGM and was a devout communist in FRANCE. WTF. And he had the mission to convert Russia to the US film strategy, VladimirPosner which was obviously communist - yet most of us realize it is rooted in ILLUMINATI cultism.
How interesting Phil tells vladimir's story! ....
And then is the turn of Vladimir and how uninteresting he is! ....The way he tells story, he is all absorved in his ego. ....He now has accent.
Olya G well done.Respect for real reply.
I think he’s interesting.
Соснула горький хрен или курнула бычок прошлогодний. А может тебя уронили об бетонный пол во время родов? Что из трёх, выбирай.