Nightmare Eyes - The Importance of Mae Borowski in Night in the Woods

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @cutebutdemonicchild8302
    @cutebutdemonicchild8302 19 днів тому +107

    I'm gonna be so sad to see these videos go 😭

  • @karmanoodlesoup
    @karmanoodlesoup 16 днів тому +10

    The theory that Mae is astral projecting instead of dreaming during the “dream segments” is very interesting, because of how much she sleeps. I wonder if during part of the time that she is “sleeping” she is astral projecting, and she sleeps a long time to make up for some of the time that she wouldn’t be properly resting. However, I agree, she most likely sleeps in because of her declining mental state.

  • @lewilbur
    @lewilbur 14 днів тому +9

    Love your video so much! Love indepth videos about Night in the Woods. It's such a great game! People are SO rude when discussing Mae online though!
    It frustrates me that Mae gets talked about like trash all over forums and stuff. "She's just a spoiled brat who squandered everything because she's SO immature. Just look at her friends."
    Ok. Let's look at them. They all have HORRIBLE families that could not or WOULD NOT send their kids to college. Mae's family doesn't lock her up in the basement like Angus. They work unlike Bea's dad. And Gregg's parents literally abandoned him. All of Mae's friends had to grow up TOO fast. Mae is in a different place from all of them BECAUSE her family is the most healthy out of all of them. And she wasn't forced to raise herself or step into her parent's roll as a teenager...
    "Mae is ungrateful and lazy" MAE HAS A MENTAL ILLNESS!!! What do you want from her!! Christ! (And, in the context of the game, it's because an eldritch god is messing with her personally!!) For some people, an illness doesn't show itself until the person goes through A LOT of stress. (Like graduating high school or starting college.) My mom has bipolar 1 disorder and she had her first episode when she graduated high school and really bad episodes when she gave birth. My older sister, who has type 2, her first episode happened when we moved to a new state when she was 10.
    Traditional college just doesn't work with some people's health and that's fine! (My mom did not go to college but my sister has her DOCTORATE in neuropsychology. So don't think that if someone has a mental illness that means they can't do well in school. It's not the case. Like i said, it works for SOME people.) All that being said, Mae's not a failure! She's being responsible and removing herself from a dangerous situation.
    It's like being angry at someone for having arthritis and the fact that they can't work with their hands all day. School just didnt work out for her. There are SO many alternatives to traditional university that could work so much better with her health. I get that, in the game, Bea tells Mae (and the player) that Mae is an immature brat for ditching college but should we take her word as gospel? At that time she didn't know what Mae was going through. That would be WILD if she told Mae that she should have stuck it out and murdered her classmates just to finish college...
    Anyway I gotta take a break from the sub reddit 😅 had to let that rant out somewhere. Thanks!!

  • @bobbertbobbert-g3k
    @bobbertbobbert-g3k 19 днів тому +70

    i just got into night in the woods and owlbatross might not make more vids about it? i guess it is the end of an era

    • @OnTheRun_DontTellEm
      @OnTheRun_DontTellEm 19 днів тому +20

      In the new community post, OwlBatross mentions how this isn't the last Night in the Woods video, just of the character analysis series.
      SO WE GOT MORE TOO GO!!!

    • @MasIndie
      @MasIndie 18 днів тому +3

      @OnTheRun_DontTellEmEpic

    • @Yes-hd5ku
      @Yes-hd5ku 18 днів тому +1

      How's the nitw experience going so far, bobber?

    • @TotalTrashMammal2017
      @TotalTrashMammal2017 18 днів тому +2

      Tacos

    • @MasIndie
      @MasIndie 18 днів тому +1

      @TotalTrashMammal2017 Burger

  • @esba802
    @esba802 11 днів тому +2

    This game never ceases to make me have that great emotion, love hearing everything I can about it :>

  • @OnTheRun_DontTellEm
    @OnTheRun_DontTellEm 18 днів тому +21

    I went into NitW bind just over a month now, after getting it in a steam sale, and falling absolutely in love with it! Your video's, and most notably channel, have been one of the BEST parts of finding this amazing game! In one way its sorta sad I wasn't here when the game first kicked off; but at the same time the game both coming to me when I needed it, and having the pleasure of going through all the old uploads of your, and other channel's, AND the community seeming just as strong, has lead me to believing I've chose the down right PERFECT time to get into NitW!
    Thanks for these amazing videos! To the future!

  • @GregJonson
    @GregJonson 17 днів тому +16

    By the way, not only is Mae the first Borowski to go to college, she could be the LAST one as well. Mae doesn't want kids, and since we don't know Aunt Mall Cop's situation, the Borowski name could die with Mae.

    • @ShinGallon
      @ShinGallon 17 днів тому +4

      We don't know if she has any aunts/uncles on her dad's side, though, so there could still be more of them out there.

    • @sebp9882
      @sebp9882 9 днів тому

      when does Mae say she doesn’t want kids? When she was discussing this with Candy she was quite avoidant of the topic but didnt outright deny it?

    • @ShinGallon
      @ShinGallon 9 днів тому

      @@sebp9882 "Eww, babies"
      Also when she's reminiscing about the picture she drew about her farm family, it's just her and her wife and some dogs, no kids.

    • @GregJonson
      @GregJonson 9 днів тому

      @@sebp9882 In Lost Constellation.

    • @sebp9882
      @sebp9882 9 днів тому

      @@ShinGallon Well if Mae is childfree that another thing I love about her. I relate to this character too much lol

  • @AubreyWilson-y1z
    @AubreyWilson-y1z 16 днів тому +5

    I would love to see a video where you discuss what kind of support may should have received after the "killer incident" and how you believe it could have changed the events of her life

  • @Vegito_Fanpage
    @Vegito_Fanpage 18 днів тому +11

    So glad to have been here for the finale, even if I was well late to the party itself. Thank you for making so any excellent videos on Night in The Woods!

  • @hypnoticskull6342
    @hypnoticskull6342 18 днів тому +6

    This is it, boys. This series was awesome.
    OwlBatRoss, thank you for getting me back into this incredible game. I'll make sure to watch every one of your other videos.

  • @bone3695
    @bone3695 18 днів тому +14

    I've always related to Mae and I don't know where else to express this, so to the comments I go. NITW came out when I was in middle school and even then I related to her - A LOT. I was going through a hard time. I was angry, afraid of myself and what I might do, fighting through long periods of derealization and depersonalization, felt like I couldn't do anything right. I was like Mae after the softball game. I'd been hospitalized twice in rapid succession due to my mental illness shit at 12 years old. I was labeled dangerous by my school counselor and even suspended after enough times being sent home due to what I would later learn were highly distressing intrusive thoughts, images, and bouts of depersonalization, things I didn't even know were a thing and simply believed were me actually wanting to hurt those around me. In my therapist's words, "they did [me] dirty". Now, as a college dropout, I relate to her even more. I had to drop out because of things outside of my control, and I feel so guilty about it. It might be for a different reason (chronic pain which I still have no clue the origin of) but my mental health was and still is in the gutter. I feel like Mae, truly I do. I'm struggling to come to terms with the fact that I'm getting older just like Mae seems to be. My friends, even after only one year, all seem to have changed except me. Still, there's hope, just like there's hope for Mae at the end of the game. I don't know, I guess this is just my way of saying thank you for this series and expressing how much the game means to me alongside how much I appreciate knowing others like it just as much as I do.

  • @AdamKyles
    @AdamKyles 15 днів тому +3

    Good video but I also wanted to say thank you for being an Autistic support teacher. I had something similar to that in school to help me with my Autism, and I'm still friends with the person who helped me. Personally, I don't think Mae is Autistic, although I wouldn't be astonished if the game developers revealed that Gregg has ADHD. I'm not saying he definitely does, but the thought crossed my mind.

  • @irmatheshepherd2325
    @irmatheshepherd2325 18 днів тому +2

    Thank you for this fantastic series. I do not think I would have loved this game so much if it wasn't for your in depth analysis of its characters and themes. Genuinely, you helped keep the fandom alive for a long while, and I can't thank you enough for it.

  • @TheRealGreggLee
    @TheRealGreggLee 20 днів тому +4

    I can't wait for this! The end of an amazing era.

  • @angelofthedead5589
    @angelofthedead5589 17 днів тому +2

    Man, I just came across your channel not too long ago and binged nearly all of your NiTW content. Truly appreciate your dedication to your theories and this game! Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @dizbrony3906
    @dizbrony3906 18 днів тому +2

    This was brilliant.
    Mae is such an important character not just in video games, but in storytelling overall.

  • @ausarsiris8784
    @ausarsiris8784 17 днів тому +1

    i finished nitw last week and im grateful for your videos

  • @anthonycuevasproduction
    @anthonycuevasproduction 18 днів тому +1

    This is definitely your best vid yet and even though I’m sad your nitw analysis videos are over I’m glad I was able to be there to see all of them tell the end can’t wait for whatever other videos you make about this amazing game 💜🦉

  • @InkyGhoul
    @InkyGhoul 18 днів тому +2

    I remember in a premier I said I was working on a long nitw video, and you said you’d be excited to see it. To be honest I’ve rewrote the first part of the script a million times. I’m not sure how much there is that I can say that hasn’t already been said by established creators since the game came out. I’m also somewhat worried about if when I watch this video in the morning, I’ll realise you’ve covered something I wanted to as well.
    I’m sure I’ll figure something out eventually, and I’m really thankful for all your great videos.

  • @JGArtemis
    @JGArtemis 18 днів тому +1

    Holy moly an hour long NITWs vid thanks owlbatross

  • @Tamtam-cb5zv
    @Tamtam-cb5zv 18 днів тому +1

    My favorite series for my favorite game. The game and your videos have helped me get through so much and have positive perspectives on things. Truly. Thank you for this series

  • @drawphildraw
    @drawphildraw 13 днів тому

    Ive loved every one of these and this was the best one yet. Gonna miss this

  • @krisvsthew0rld
    @krisvsthew0rld 17 днів тому +5

    a note about mae being tired all the time in the long fall: i can, unfortunately, say from experience that for some people when you're extremely low mentally often times no matter how much you sleep you still end up tired either very fast or you don't get any proper rest while you sleep. so again, that can go either way in the astral projection-or-sleep theory.
    personally im more on the side of mae *is* sleeping but just not getting good rest. (though i do still believe in nitw's world having some paranatural phenomena about)

  • @lfamvs5520
    @lfamvs5520 15 днів тому +2

    It’s honestly a bit refreshing to see someone who works with autistic people rather than being autistic himself talking about a character being autistic or not🙏

  • @0-Bird-0
    @0-Bird-0 19 днів тому +1

    Cannot wait for the video to be out this is gonna be amazing gonna make popcorn even!!

  • @dumbmanarc
    @dumbmanarc 17 днів тому +1

    46:33
    I agree that Eide is supposed to be a sort of mirror to Mae, but in a different way.
    I always interpreted him as a representation of what Mae could have become - someone who is so obsessed with the place they grew up in, they would do anything to keep it alive, even if said thing is joining a murder cult.
    I feel her sympathy towards the cult is more evidence to this, as she's someone in a situation like them.
    I also believe that Eide being mad at Mae and the others isn't just because of the crossbow - though that's 1 reason. I think the main reason is, unlike Mae - who has grown a lot over the few days she has been back, and now understands that time stands still for no-one - Eide is someone who has stayed in town, slowly growing old and rotting away, never getting over his obsession with what once was.

  • @Druzica18
    @Druzica18 18 днів тому +1

    I love these videos so much. Your commentary on mental illness vs. Black Goat was right on, and made me tear up.
    Also, I'm an artist. I definitely volunteer to help with any art you might need. :D

  • @MasIndie
    @MasIndie 17 днів тому +1

    Glad to have watched this video, I look forward to replaying NITW again

  • @unicronneedsfood1446
    @unicronneedsfood1446 18 днів тому +8

    This video made me realize I am literally Mae from this game, I need to straighten up and fly right and get a job. Or maybe I should find some devil murder cult in the tunnels underneath my small midwestern town and get rid of them like in the game.

    • @SpiderNightcrawler
      @SpiderNightcrawler 9 днів тому +1

      A sentiment shared. At first I couldn't stand Mae; I thought she was emotionally needy, a brat and engaged in self-destructive behaviours for attention but then through the power of self-loathing I realised "...uh oh. I don't like Mae because Mae is _me_ ."
      I guess in a way it's interesting to see yourself reflected in a character like Mae because it makes you aware of some of your flaws and struggles and how your behaviour might look to an outsider, but also that sometimes it might not be as bad as you're catastrophizing.
      Navel gazing over. I love NitW even if they did Alec Holowka really dirty

  • @melvinbrains
    @melvinbrains 18 днів тому

    Great video as always, man!

  • @juliemassam933
    @juliemassam933 18 днів тому

    It so feels like you just started making these videos! I plan on playing NITW on my channel, I honestly believe we'll keep this game alive.

  • @keip4568
    @keip4568 18 днів тому +2

    At last the protagonist, herself!!

  • @ShinGallon
    @ShinGallon 17 днів тому +4

    So it was about my third playthrough when it finally hit me that Mae's discussion on the couch about her dissociative episodes, and how everything became "just shapes", were a meta commentary on the game itself. That the art style in the game wasn't merely an artistic choice but was also a narrative one, because, like the game she describes in that scene, the characters here aren't real, their dialog was all made up by writers, and the art style is very much simple shapes and colors. In hindsight it seemed rather obvious and I felt dumb for taking that long to realize that, but still...very meta, indeed.

  • @artemisarrow179
    @artemisarrow179 14 днів тому

    I finished my yearly playthrough of NiTW and it blows me away every year :,)

  • @M3n747
    @M3n747 17 днів тому

    That was a really great, very in-depth video!
    Regarding a remastered version you mentioned towards the end, I don't see the point of releasing one, as the game still looks, plays and runs perfectly fine. I do, however, wish they made a patch allowing us to play the guitar minigame from the main menu. There's just not enough opportunity to do that!
    (And as for NitW2, I don't recall if you mentioned that video by Wolf Godwin before, but man, does it look amazing!)

  • @josephmatthews7698
    @josephmatthews7698 14 днів тому +3

    Im glad you didnt bag on mae too hard for failing and quitting college. Im from a town like hers and whether its something in the water or just similar circumstances the vast majority of us just cant complete college. Believe it or not yet many of those same people have no problem giving four years to the military or more.
    The military is preferable to college. Let that sink in. In my graduating class I know over 50 who joined the military two even died in Iraq but only about 6 (myself included) who could successfully navigate college.
    We need more options.

  • @ushankito2096
    @ushankito2096 18 днів тому

    Hell yeah another nitw video essay!!!

  • @darkninjafirefox
    @darkninjafirefox 17 днів тому

    One little detail i love about Greg's defense of Mae at the end is that the game typically censors swears by just writing Eff. Like shes probably actually saying the word in the world of nitw.
    But when Greg is threatening Eide, it goes full comic style censoring, so Greg was using some very powerful language

  • @ESousa-dn4vs
    @ESousa-dn4vs 20 днів тому +1

    Mae my beloved, let's go

  • @Burner-account-TFirst
    @Burner-account-TFirst 19 днів тому +2

    Nice while it lasted

  • @UrbanAgentofChaos
    @UrbanAgentofChaos 20 днів тому +1

    I can't wait!! 😻😻😻😻😻😻

  • @dracow35
    @dracow35 15 днів тому

    Nice vid on Mae

  • @kayquinn9439
    @kayquinn9439 16 днів тому +3

    I’m autistic (audhd) I think Mae is autistic and has comorbidities

  • @Sillydraco
    @Sillydraco 17 днів тому

    I'd love to see videos on Undertale and Cave Story!

  • @deltacosmic5358
    @deltacosmic5358 10 днів тому

    holy moly human mae

  • @hatcher365
    @hatcher365 18 днів тому

    you should do a video on longest night and lost constellation.

  • @MelodyYoung
    @MelodyYoung 15 днів тому

    I love how everyone says that Gregg is the likely first choice for first time players, but I literally picked Bea first when I played.

  • @dostuff7582
    @dostuff7582 18 днів тому

    Absolute cinema✋🐱🤚

  • @kizzanimations3024
    @kizzanimations3024 17 днів тому

    So, mae says that everyone and everything became like shapes to her instead of people and whatnot…is this connected to the simpler art style of the game too? Because if you look at all the characters, they’re all rather simple shapes and such, so would the art style be a thematic choice along with obviously just being a really good art style? Idk just a thought but also I couldn’t word this as well as I wanted to

  • @0-Bird-0
    @0-Bird-0 18 днів тому +1

    Gonna be so peak

  • @TheBest-cs7qg
    @TheBest-cs7qg 18 днів тому

    i l ove mae borowski

  • @lou301
    @lou301 17 днів тому

  • @pizzapocket2076
    @pizzapocket2076 18 днів тому

    I hope you can quit your dayjob and work on your channel full-time. Best of luck, I wish the best for you!

  • @TroublingZeal
    @TroublingZeal 17 днів тому +4

    It is really hard to focus on what you’re saying when you keep saying “people with autism” instead of “autistic people”
    As an autistic person I’m **begging** you to shed that part of your training. We don’t say “Asperger’s syndrome” anymore and we don’t say “with autism” anymore. Why? Because it’s not a disease, it’s our literal brains. It is a neurotype. Please treat it as such.

    • @owlbatross9187
      @owlbatross9187  16 днів тому +3

      Hey there! Thank you for the feedback. I apologize if I offended you. Just as you said, it goes back to my training. When I was in college, I had person first language drilled in my head. But if the community's preference is to be referred to as Autistic people instead, then I have no problem changing my language accordingly, and will make sure to implement that in my scripts moving forward.
      Thanks again for the comment - it's important for me to get things like this right.

  • @clown.mp4413
    @clown.mp4413 17 днів тому

    I think u have some really weird ideas about autistic ppl. If not weird then just really narrow

    • @viput69
      @viput69 16 днів тому

      ?

    • @TyrannoNoddy
      @TyrannoNoddy 10 днів тому

      Yeah the diversity of experiences is much wider than acknowledged. Obviously if you're relying on specific training and a specific perspective, and your experiences only lead to certain encounters, that's going to form a bias, but at least in regards to myself and other Autistic people that I've spoken to, there is a wide variety of how emotions can be dealt with.
      In regards to the idea of Mae being Autistic, I can go either way on it personally. Like it's not something I instinctively think of like many other characters I see, but a lot of that is easily just related to my own specific experiences. On the other hand, there's many things about her I recognise in others I know, and even certain aspects of myself. In regards to her in social situations specifically, I do think there's a valid argument for it. Like she can end up being quite combative, but I do know Autistic people who have been like that, not just simply being awkward and saying the wrong thing but really digging themselves into holes with it and often making a scene. Anyway yeah kind of a complex topic

  • @JonnyBoii_Gaming
    @JonnyBoii_Gaming 18 днів тому +1

    Hopefully that Owl still uploads on NITWs content it would suck to see a end to it 🥹😭😭

  • @ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
    @ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 18 днів тому +1

    I know I'm late to the party, but NITW changed my life, at such a crucial stage in my life, and finding your channel and your NITW content means the world to me. 😻🦊🐻🐊🦜
    Especially since there may never be any NITW sequels.