Profiling my FAVORITE AMP! | Can it be done?

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  • @davidsandstrom5781
    @davidsandstrom5781 4 роки тому +180

    Don't know if anyone will say this, but thank you for taking all the time to do something YOU DIDN'T EVEN AGREE WITH! You just listened to your viewers and rolled with it. Thank you for the editing time, the profiling time, and the countless hours you dedicate to your craft. You're a great creator and I really enjoy your stuff. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    • @nectarkundalini
      @nectarkundalini 4 роки тому +6

      I don't even play guitar, and I gladly liked this video for this exact reason (:

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns 4 роки тому +2

      I agree with the thanks. Paul is great & I love his stuff. At the same time, I think he had an obligation to do this. His original video was being treated as an apples-to-apples comparison and it only takes one glance the first 100 comments to see that. If I were part of the Kemper company, I would've felt like my product just had thousands of negative impressions made about due to Pauls' broad reach, in a comparison that didn't even showcase what it is actually capable of. The Kemper's originally-designed role was as a profiler, first and foremost. Using it as a playback device of someone else's profiles and thinking it can't keep up is no more fair than listening to a poor quality recording burned to a CD and concluding that CDs sound bad.

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      @zakaikamdyn2172 3 роки тому

      @Mitchell Rocky Instablaster ;)

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      @mitchellrocky3847 3 роки тому +1

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  • @jimmcdougall9973
    @jimmcdougall9973 4 роки тому +38

    I’m glad to see you still believe in the Kemper. Unfortunately, most folks only “get” the Kemper once they have profiled their own amps.

    • @playmoreguitar5393
      @playmoreguitar5393 4 роки тому +8

      I believed in it then I profiled my Swart AST.. now I'm convinced its the best thing since sliced bread.

    • @jimmcdougall9973
      @jimmcdougall9973 4 роки тому +2

      PlayMoreGuitar ❤️

    • @cornstar1253
      @cornstar1253 4 роки тому +4

      Michael Britts profiles are better than mine. So I mostly use his

    • @jeandurand3095
      @jeandurand3095 4 роки тому +1

      why would you need 20 diffrents amp?!

    • @Ruefus
      @Ruefus 4 роки тому +5

      Jean Bono ‘Need’ has nothing to do with anything. You don’t need a Matchless. You don’t need a Kemper. You want them. The Kemper is a tool, same as any amp.

  • @KB-kc7ou
    @KB-kc7ou 4 роки тому +96

    I never quite get the whole 'perfect' tone thing. A great tone is, well, great, but in a recording situation, when the guitar track gets to the mixing stage, the mixing engineer will typically scoop out frequencies, compress and use other tricks to make the guitar track sit in the mix properly. There goes any arguable differences between, say, the Matchable and the Kemper...
    In a live situation a good guitarist should also adjust her tone to work with the rest of the band... Or am I missing something?
    That said, killer tone, dude!

    • @johnbrasher1495
      @johnbrasher1495 4 роки тому +27

      Just human nature... guys on forums will say "first thing ya gotta do is change the pickups" even though in A/B tests they cannot tell the high-end pickups from the Chinese copies. Same with amps. And nothing is going to change their minds.

    • @AndyDion
      @AndyDion 4 роки тому +3

      I agree, that’s why when I record I do DI now so I can re-amp, add effects or eq as needed for the song. For live I just want a tone that cuts thru bass and drums but sits under vocals.

    • @Dartheomus
      @Dartheomus 4 роки тому +14

      Yeah you're dead on. The only time the "perfect tone" matters is when it inspires you to play something you otherwise wouldn't have. I *really* don't get why people fart around with changing pickups in electric guitars unless it's a massive change. (Single to HB) Any "nuance" that was achieved changing from one single coil to another is almost always achievable with an EQ pedal or a super minor adjustment in the signal chain. Now, one thing I will say with Kemper is that it makes it *much* easier to dial your tone to fit the mix whether live or recording. For recording, you can obviously re-amp, but even for live, the "cab" section of the amp is ridiculously dynamic. If you have a tone you like, but it's not cutting through the way you want, you just make a minor adjustment there and you can go from tight and boxy to fat and airy. It's amazing.

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns 4 роки тому +8

      Yups. There are lots of multi-track studio masters you can find online now from a certain, ummm, popular guitar video game, and when you hear the isolated guitars on those gold and platinum production albums, you realize... wow this has been eq'd and processed seven ways from Sunday. Great tones and all the subtleties matter 100x more to the person playing the guitar by themselves than in any other context. Don't get me wrong, a wonderful vintage tube amp is incomparable, but digital modeling tools are SO good nowadays and fulfill some of the traditional amp roles better than amps themselves.

    • @ravenslaves
      @ravenslaves 4 роки тому +14

      A good friend of mine, years ago, was a great session player who also used to play out to cover the bills and to stay active, bought an early Line 6 amp. So I had to ask him, because his amp collection was massive and extremely vintage in the best possible way, "Dude...WTF?". His response was "Why should I lug around an 80 pound amp, just to play to a room full of drunk people?"
      ...I had nothing.
      That bit of wisdom is always at the back of my mind to keep some much needed perspective.

  • @InsaneWayne355
    @InsaneWayne355 4 роки тому +16

    Couldn't tell a difference this time round. First time must have been because your amp was dialed in differently than how the store bought profile was captured. Good stuff.

  • @NickC1975
    @NickC1975 4 роки тому +6

    Waw, the end comparaison blew me away!! First time I hear a digital amp sounding soooo close from an analog one...

  • @dannyv.6358
    @dannyv.6358 4 роки тому +2

    Forget about the amps, your feista Strat & Tele gets me everytime 🎸Thanks for all you do Paul!

  • @alseick
    @alseick 4 роки тому +3

    some tips from my observation:
    - to simulate amp in the room -> direct profile (I use Kemper DI box)
    - everything matters, every single cable in the setup. I suggest tweaking tone after Kemper is connected of course, as it wont be the same as when guitar is connected directly to the amp
    - playing long or different things doesnt seem to help during refine. Compare refining with chord on 3rd fret and on 9th fret (this is an example - you can play anything, the point is to understand how it affects refining). You can play anything in between these chords, it usually adjusts to last played thing anyway. You can learn how to tweak the amp in profiling mode. changing cable can give the results which are hard to achieve by manual adjustments or refining.
    - even when profile is made with mic, cab can be turned off when playing through cab
    - with some amps you might need to use more gain and bass if it becomes too shrill, once you learn what it does to the sound you can adjust the amp to compensate difference.
    When I bought Kemper, I had to borrow mic, because I couldn't stand most of the available profiles. Once I did my own, I sold some of the amps :D

  • @400_billion_suns
    @400_billion_suns 4 роки тому +3

    I was one of the critical people on your last video, since everyone was taking it as a direct comparison even though that wasn't your intent. Thanks for doing this!!! This is a much fairer showing of the 'realistic' capabilities of the Kemper, along with the challenges of making profiles and what can be expected with experience and effort. A perfect re-creation it is not, but it can get pretty darn close, and for many casual players or even traveling musicians, the Kemper can be a much more sensible option.

  • @LittleMissDesmo
    @LittleMissDesmo 4 роки тому +2

    First off I think both sound amazing.
    I do agree that the Matchless sounds a little better when it comes to the clarity and complete sounds. The Kemper is so close but you can hear the subtle difference when presented back to back. It’s almost muted a little.
    However unless someone was presented with both sounds it would be difficult to differentiate them. (Not saying that there are folks out who couldn’t tell without it. There are some awesome ears out there but the vast majority most likely are not. Which is ok. I’m probably in that majority 😂)
    I always learn something new. Thanks for sharing.

  • @richgreen9257
    @richgreen9257 4 роки тому +5

    Great Job! This comparison is a much better A/B, and really highlights the amount of work that goes into really dialing in a tone.

  • @tastedcutlet
    @tastedcutlet 4 роки тому +14

    Wow, tht's realy close now! Considering time it took someone with developed ear and a lot of expirience to dial it in and not even talking about the real amp availability, buying patches makes a lot of sense.Thansk for your efforts to show that!

  • @cmdrsocks
    @cmdrsocks 4 роки тому +5

    Modern digital gear is really amazing, very close to the original. Certainly close enough that most people wouldn't know which was which or even care.
    I have long since ceased caring about the type of technology used to generate sounds and now use the simple rule "If it sounds good, it is good".
    Tone snobs and gear purists should probably consider just how many A/D, D/A, EQ, compression and buffer stages their "perfect pure tone" goes through on the way to the listeners ears if they record something and put it up on UA-cam - it might blow their mind just how many cheap op-amps and "value" digital components touch their tone after it leaves the output transformer of their boutique amp.

  • @chrisjs6123
    @chrisjs6123 4 роки тому +4

    Damn close on an iPhone. Proper monitors not so much. I’m still in love with my kemper but there’s something about a great tube amp it’ll never fully replace. What I do love is the predictability, convenience and versatility. It’s nice to have both but I could absolutely live with a kemper for the rest of my life no problems.

  • @joshuabenton3785
    @joshuabenton3785 4 роки тому +1

    I love the subtle hint of sarcasm at the beginning. I knew the original comparison was kinda meh, but I forgot about it. BUT I am glad you came back around to it!
    But as much as I love Kemper, amps are still king.

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 4 роки тому +21

    Really glad to see you acknowledged making a mistake in the comparison, and especially taking the time to have a redo and more accurate one. I think it really says so much about your integrity and heart of the community!

    • @StamateTudorGuitar
      @StamateTudorGuitar 4 роки тому +1

      You comment on EVERY Guitar video. Is this your job? 😂

    • @RC32Smiths01
      @RC32Smiths01 4 роки тому

      @@StamateTudorGuitar Nah, but I most certainly enjoy watching the content of all of these guys to grow as a guitarist!

    • @StamateTudorGuitar
      @StamateTudorGuitar 4 роки тому

      @@RC32Smiths01 Me too. For how much time do you play? Are you a guitarist?

    • @RC32Smiths01
      @RC32Smiths01 4 роки тому

      @@StamateTudorGuitar About 5-6 years as a guitarist now. I play about 5 hrs a day, and it really gets the improvement going.

  • @flatbill2
    @flatbill2 4 роки тому +3

    That amp sound with the Tele melted my brain for a second.

  • @GTManiK
    @GTManiK 4 роки тому +1

    Big thanks for doing this. I think there are differences between the amp and the Kemper, but it's pretty pretty darn close in this video. Maybe more noticeable in 'amp in the room' setting, but definitely less so on a recording.
    Also I would say that while buying a Kemper and using third-party profiles is a great option nowadays (and it works very well this way), the original Kemper's 'selling point' was another one, for another audience: if you own a recording studio, or if you gig professionally, etc. etc. and you already have a definitive collection of tones from a number of real amps you use, Kemper just allows you to reduce a 'footprint' of your gear you record and/or hit the road with. So you do not need to move around your numerous heads and cabs anymore, miking 'em in cycles to find a proper combination etc. You just get almost the same sound by switching profiles you made from your own gear.
    This makes it possible to capture a unique sound of your studio and your unique recording skills, and it will be YOUR signature sound (and this is the only what matters here in fact, as other people in other studios will make somewhat different sound with the identical heads/cabs/mics).
    Other than that, there's no 'real' need in Kemper at all - you have your favorite amp - just play it. Kemper is just a luxury to discover some gear you do not have if you want, but you can easily use other means for just that. Though I agree - it is one of the most convenient ways to discover other gear.

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 4 роки тому +5

    As with any amplifier, you need to spend some quality time with it to get the most out of it. That goes for Modeling or Analog.
    Great content Mr. Davids, thank you so much for your attention to detail and checking all the boxes for the important items to compare.

  • @OffbeatSynch
    @OffbeatSynch 3 роки тому +1

    Well done, Paul....this is the best HC-30 profile I’ve ever heard....glad you took the painstaking effort to get it sounding fantastic....thanks

  • @samz9121
    @samz9121 4 роки тому

    Now THIS is what I was waiting for. The fact that you were transparent with the whole process makes it more personal and informative on that front.
    Even so, I say you did a darn good job with what you put out. The profile sounds really, REALLY close.

  • @blueskirya
    @blueskirya 4 роки тому +3

    Both sounds amazing! Great video, Paul)

  • @tr6jr
    @tr6jr 4 роки тому +3

    I know the feeling. I purchased a Helix and for months I was tremendously frustrated. Hours of watching instructional videos, tweaking at home, then listening to our band practice recordings only to hear tones that were way too bright , bass that was flubby, and distortions that were fizzy and shrill. It takes time to get the hang of it. It gets better. I'm liking more each day.

    • @driesvanoosten4417
      @driesvanoosten4417 4 роки тому

      For me the difference was getting a nice IR...

    • @butcher_0392
      @butcher_0392 4 роки тому

      @@driesvanoosten4417
      Exactly
      If people just took the time to learn something basic about production and blending, everything would be different and those companies wouldn't steal at those ridiculous prices.
      The cab is 90% of the tone, and most ignore that detail.
      When you understand that, you know you can get a professional tone only with free plugins, and sound 100 times better than hundreds of inexperienced guitarists with Kemper or Ax FX lll, without dumping 2500 USD in the process.

  • @druwk
    @druwk 4 роки тому +6

    You’re a great player, so you sound good through either. The real thing and the profile both have the same vibe, and I had a hard time telling them apart when I closed my eyes (UA-cam, headphones)?
    I always take the opportunity to play through a real amp, if I can. Digital can be an amazing approximation, but at the end of the day it’s not an amp?
    “The Ultimate Tone” is a unicorn.

  • @sanathtuli9818
    @sanathtuli9818 4 роки тому +5

    These tones doesn't come any closer to each other. ✨🔥 Brilliant!

  • @panhandlegeardemos6837
    @panhandlegeardemos6837 4 роки тому +2

    Much better comparison, thanks for revisiting it! Matchless sounds amazing but I’ll settle for the kemper version 😉

  • @GazMoz78
    @GazMoz78 4 роки тому +20

    Kemper sounds great! Matchless sounds "better".
    This is an A-B comparison. So it's easy to make that judgement.
    I think the Kemper is perfectly fine, great even!
    Is it a Matchless? No...

    • @RichiAtlanticWind
      @RichiAtlanticWind 4 роки тому +7

      The thing is... you want a Matchless, get a Matchless. But it only does THAT. The Kemper can sound 95% like the the Matchless and also 95% of any other amp that has been correctly profiled. That is it´strength. Oh yes, and it only weights about 6 kg or 12 lbs...

    • @cornstar1253
      @cornstar1253 4 роки тому +3

      I can't hear the difference.

  • @declinox
    @declinox 4 роки тому +1

    I for one didn't hear that much difference between the Matchless and the final profile on the Kemper. When I looked away and I listened, I had a hard time telling when you transitioned from one to the other. So kudos, your profile to my ears is a pretty close match and they both sound awesome! I'm sure somebody will chime in and tell me I'm deaf, but whatever.

  • @treehouse722
    @treehouse722 4 роки тому +6

    I came to much the same conclusion as with the first vid: the Matchless is slightly more full-bodied and musical. Suggests, among other things, that your profiling was ultimately pretty good.

  • @paulstubbs4487
    @paulstubbs4487 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Nice to hear some real experience of profiling with the Kemper rather than the usual "sponsored" stuff. In a band setting no-one would really know or care though. Both sounded great because of your playing. Now when can someone profile Paul Davids.

  • @tiswanie
    @tiswanie 4 роки тому +3

    Compared to the first video this is a much more realistic representation of what the Kemper is capable of. This video also shows us once more that it’s not an easy task to make high quality profiles of an amp. Thank you for your time and effort Paul.

  • @robertstapleton3598
    @robertstapleton3598 4 роки тому

    Very well done. Entertaining and educational. The Matchless had a little bit more lows and something around 4K but those differences can be easily adjusted with eq.
    I thought your best profile was the one around 4:08 - it was the second one played after adding chords. Sounds like the mics were moved back a bit from the cabinet and that captured a bit of the room sound. Magic!
    Maybe the goal should be to make the best possible profile, but not necessarily make it sound exactly like the original. It's OK to make it even better. :)

  • @devildeeee
    @devildeeee 4 роки тому

    thx, paul.. just because of your contribution i instantaneously bought the c30 matchless profiles from tone junkie and now i can't stop playing them ;-) btw imho better then the britt ones which i usually prefer...but i changed the cab ir to v30 mesa. now i am perfectly happy. thank you once more, great job!!!!

  • @BobJones-bh9qz
    @BobJones-bh9qz 3 роки тому +1

    This time around the Kemper was spot on, your profile is infinitely better than the previous one you bought

  • @horse_dog
    @horse_dog 4 роки тому +3

    I’d prefer to play a tube amp, but currently it just makes more sense to play a modeler, especially for live shows

  • @alleriagr
    @alleriagr 4 роки тому +12

    Almost the same. Not a big difference and the refinement definitely did great. Now all you have to do is grab your Kemper and copy every single amp you like from guitar stores and BOOM. Toans for ever.

  • @slash196
    @slash196 4 роки тому +1

    As one of the people asking you to do this comparison in the original video, VERY NICE WORK!!! I appreciate all the effort you put in, and it really drives home the power of the Kemper...it doesn't sound IDENTICAL, but it sounds DAMN CLOSE. Having the same impulse response/cabinet sound on both versions is key for a true apples-to-apples comparison, and doing impulse responses WELL is finicky, maddening work. For everyone out there looking to take your modeler sounds to the next level, I always recommend Ownhammer impulse responses, I put them on every one of my Kemper profiles because they just sound better than 99 percent of the profiles out there. So you get the gain structure and feel of the pre-amp, but mic'd up perfectly.
    Anyway, great job with this, your hard work paid off!

  • @captainjackspandexcaptainj1680
    @captainjackspandexcaptainj1680 4 роки тому +81

    Maybe he isn’t bad at profiling, maybe that amp is just… matchless…

  • @dan5danPT
    @dan5danPT 4 роки тому

    I felt like the core tone of each was comparable, but there was something that seemed like “room sound” with the Matchless that was more pleasing to the ear. The Kemper was super dry sounding. It was like listening to direct vs mic’d sound. If that is how it was recorded, then it may be possible to equal the two sounds out with something like the room sound from the OX. But then that introduces another piece of gear to the mix which isn’t part of the comparison. I think with some of the onboard effects dialed in (verb or super short single repeat delay) it would be get the Kemper even closer. Kudos to you for putting in the effort to make it a fair comparison!

  • @carltone
    @carltone 3 роки тому

    Of course everyone’s home computer/ phone Bluetooth setup is going to sound different. Your final M/K comparisons with the tele were awesome. Just prior to the Covid debacle I heard a good Blues rock band playing at a great venue. The guitarist was playing through a Kemper, the FOH mix was great, dancing with my wife, the stage wash was awesome. The guitar players tone was awesome. Kind of saddened me in a way. Technology has definitely caught up. Yes you can A/B but the cork sniffing is very subtle these days. That band , that mix . Didn’t matter cause the guitarist had tone to die for coming out of that box. Thank-you for this great comparison review and effort to make it as accurate as possible.

  • @markinthemix6055
    @markinthemix6055 4 роки тому +1

    Good video. Both are important. Kemper and the actual amp have their place and we need them both.

  • @nazmoking3171
    @nazmoking3171 4 роки тому +1

    I actually love the Matchless profile on my Zoom pedal and Spark amp. They must be pretty cool amps!

  • @GuitarGearGyan
    @GuitarGearGyan 4 роки тому

    Sounds absolutely fantastic.

  • @marcp.418
    @marcp.418 4 роки тому

    Thanks Paul, great video. I have had really good results in profiling my amps with the UA OX instead of mics. Works beautifully and I like my own profiles of Fuchs ODS and Ceriatone HRM even slightly better than the ones I bought from MBritt. Awesome pedal platform, even though the Kemper responds slightly different to pedals in front than the tube amps, but one can live with that.

  • @Russell_Optics
    @Russell_Optics 4 роки тому

    Thank you again ! I learn something from every one of your video's. You have a great presence & attitude that keeps me wanting to learn more. I have to admit the profile came very close, and in a blind test I probably couldn't tell you which was which. But, maybe just the placebo effect, but I still prefer tubes/valves and believe they just sound better. I can get very respectable clean or gritty sounds from my $300 tube driven super champ x2 that does model other amps as well. The Kemper is absolutely awesome, but also quite a bit more pricey.

    • @douro20
      @douro20 4 роки тому

      The cost of the Kemper doesn't even compare to that Matchless. It's $3500 and it's only built upon request. It even has custom made capacitors and the transformers are wound in house.

  • @Reliz
    @Reliz 4 роки тому

    those profils sound so much better then your old matchless profile!!

  • @aylbdrmadison1051
    @aylbdrmadison1051 4 роки тому +2

    Sorry Paul, that seemed like you didn't have as much fun as normal. We can't all have good days of course, but I think you really deserve them for all the positive energy you put out. I think you did a great job and just hit a learning curve myself, and no doubt you'll figure it out if it interests you personally. Regardless I enjoyed the video anyway. It's a good thing to see the trials people go through. That's what playing the blues is all about. Not the stuff that always goes down easy, you know?

  • @alexaudiovisuals
    @alexaudiovisuals 4 роки тому +7

    And then there are the people listening to this on their phone speaker :'D

  • @TimMallick
    @TimMallick 4 роки тому

    Kudos for doing this, the sound is much closer than the original video. slight diff, and if you did a blindfold A B most wouldn't be able to pick which was which. Everyone saying the matchless sounds beeter etc, if they were blindfolded, or in a mix couldn't tell the diff especially if you worked on the profile a little more, you can do some more refinement on the profile then you did, but like you said, who wants to spend all that time for a video like this. Some people are whizzes at profiling, its basically an art. I have heard some that you literally cannot tell the diff at all. Personally I feel you could get yours to that level. But again its alot of work.
    thanks for taking the time to make it a much better comparison

  • @davedavem
    @davedavem 4 роки тому

    Congrats on the HC-30 again, it sounds awesome!

  • @BruttCustomWorkshop
    @BruttCustomWorkshop 4 роки тому +2

    nice sound from the 2 amps, thats for shure

  • @Xyrium
    @Xyrium 3 роки тому

    Ok, you got me, I'm in. Nice work sir.

  • @TheBeardedGuitarist
    @TheBeardedGuitarist 4 роки тому

    Brillant work. Thanks Paul!

  • @TeddyMusique
    @TeddyMusique 4 роки тому

    Nice comparison of the modeling amp vs tube amp match. The amp tube still sounds a little better to my ears but
    with minimal difference

  • @kgmessier
    @kgmessier 4 роки тому +113

    Looks like Matchless is going to have to change their name to Matchable.

  • @dentoncrimescene
    @dentoncrimescene 4 роки тому +16

    I didn't look and could not tell when they swapped.

    • @depechex
      @depechex 4 роки тому +1

      That's Kemper's magic. I have one and man, it's so useful in both studio environments and live situations...

    • @ItsMrMcFly
      @ItsMrMcFly 4 роки тому

      Me too man! I couldn’t hear the difference at all.

  • @elguitarTom
    @elguitarTom 4 роки тому

    Your video and sound quality is next level. It's like everything pops out of my screen! Your video looks more clear than my desktop background!
    What kind of recording gear (hardware and software) are you using? And microphones to record your voice?
    It would also be fun to see you create genres you not usually do: Metal? Hard Rock?

  • @AAscension
    @AAscension 4 роки тому

    The wall behind you the first half of the video has a beautiful color.

  • @klausfaerevaag
    @klausfaerevaag 4 роки тому

    I think you can get even sweeter tones out of that strat if you lower the bass side of the pickups slightly on the neck and middle pickup ;) tightens up the bass response, it's awesome

  • @Dartheomus
    @Dartheomus 4 роки тому +5

    I feel like you matched them close enough to dead on that you would certainly never hear the difference in a mix. Nothing beats a kemper.

  • @joewilliams5396
    @joewilliams5396 4 роки тому

    Watch this video if you want to see a perfectionist slightly stressed. You certainly worked hard for your integrity Paul in this video. I'm a believer in you. :)

  • @TheKingsofFrogIsland
    @TheKingsofFrogIsland 4 роки тому

    Much closer this time, apologies if i missed it but if you profiled the amp, cab and microphones then i'd suggest doing a DI profile of just the head, then run both through the same cab with the same microphones to do the test. I think that's where you are losing the weight. Obviously nice to have a studio profile though as you can play at headphone volume, but a DI profile when using a cab is ideal.

  • @guibollini6141
    @guibollini6141 4 роки тому +3

    HAHAHA, you were obviously kidding right ?! They might sound a little different ( < 1% for sure) but, they both are great sounding! And we will never know if this difference came from different cabs/mics/positions/pres, post processing etc

  • @ZachYoung626
    @ZachYoung626 4 роки тому +3

    I'm interested to see more of the capabilities of the Kemper. That thing is really cool

    • @mistersq01
      @mistersq01 4 роки тому

      Kemper is too expensive!

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns 4 роки тому

      It's been available for about 10 years. You can find *tons* of sound samples, clips, comparisons etc. all over youtube and the web. :)

  • @shorerocks
    @shorerocks 4 роки тому +3

    On my Genelec 1030s with eyes closed I could not hear the switch between both. And yeah, I am kinda sensitive about amp tone. To me the question is not whether the profile is 100% 'exact'. It is, whether this is a great sounding representation of the original, mic'd amp. I'd say yes. Put that into a production and noone would hear a difference. As a player, though, having the amp there does make a difference when plaing. Just... because. :-) I love that shit. Thx for that recap, Paul.

    • @Oraxor
      @Oraxor 4 роки тому +1

      You can hear it in the low mids and how it reacts to dynamics. The Kemper has slightly more bloated low mids, but the more telling thing for me is how it “blooms” across dynamics. It is less dynamic, but achieves the distorted tone in a way that feels like it would be a number up on gain, but has lower input. So, the cleans are less clean and more compressed, but then the high dynamics don’t have quite as much bite. For someone who needs a super specific tone, modeling never quite gets it, but in the context of a mix, you can rarely hear a difference or think, “Oh, if only it was 1% more like the real thing, it would have been exact.” If you’re not a cork sniffer, any modeler can sound good as its own thing when you’re not forcing it to be EXACTLY like something else.

  • @ohkee
    @ohkee 4 роки тому

    He man, klinkt goed. Voor het eerst dat ik weinig verschil hoor tussen een buizenbak en een kemper profile variant. De Matchless blijft mn voorkeur hebben wb dynamiek en semitones.

  • @MarcCoteMusic
    @MarcCoteMusic 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Paul, I'm one of the guys who "gave you a hard time", though mine was more of a suggestion than an accusation. I'm impressed with the profile you created and in my opinion, no one in a gig setting would be able to tell which was which, so mission accomplished! The Kemper is an incredible piece of technology but it takes a great source and I suspect a lot of work to get it to perform at its best. You certainly have that great source in the Matchless and you took the time to get it just right in the digital realm. I doff my hat to you, sir, for doing this.

  • @AlmostGrewMyHair
    @AlmostGrewMyHair 4 роки тому +31

    Kemper sounds a bit one dimensional compared to the Matchless. Think the difference would be even more noticeable in the room while playing.

    • @Crowbar11115
      @Crowbar11115 4 роки тому

      @Ambivalent 100% there will be a difference. Watch some videos of people playing a real amp then a Kemper profile back to back. The differences are very obvious.

    • @MrSlimfinger
      @MrSlimfinger 4 роки тому

      @@Crowbar11115 he is playing the real amp back to back with the Kemper, what do you mean?

    • @felipebenavides1
      @felipebenavides1 4 роки тому

      Crowbar1115 it seems u did not get the video

    • @Crowbar11115
      @Crowbar11115 4 роки тому

      @@felipebenavides1 It seems you did not get my comment. I said watch videos (with an S) meaning plural videos and people (meaning more than one person). There is a difference.
      Here's an example of what I'm talking about solo'd and in a Mix.
      ua-cam.com/video/YJ-tx4712GI/v-deo.html
      If you can't hear the difference please get your hearing checked. The profiled top-end rolls off, the high-mids get oddly fluffy and mushy, the low palm muted parts sound thin compared to the real amp.
      The real amp and the profile don't sound the same.

  • @sandersonstunes
    @sandersonstunes 4 роки тому +3

    The only difference I can pick up is the decay. The kemper sounds dryer or has less room reverb than the matchless. I don’t know if you had a mic’d cab to record the tube amp and a direct input from the kemper. Other than that they sound identical.

    • @gregbrown9508
      @gregbrown9508 4 роки тому +1

      I couldn't agree more. The "presence" and "bottom end" he mentioned seemed to have more to do with the fact that the Kemper had no room to breathe (it sounded like it was being recorded in a completely dead and quiet room), while the Matchless had some reflections & decay in the room. Just a teensy bit of the right kind of room reverb might have made them identical to my ears.

    • @klfaregonnarocku
      @klfaregonnarocku 4 роки тому +1

      @@gregbrown9508 I think you nail it. Take the Tone Junkie profiles, those guys spend a lot of time on speakers, cones, rooms, mic types and distances to make their profiles. They have got better over time as they have learned more and more, better even than Britt imho, their latest ones of the TrainWrecks and Purple Plexi amps are a joy. Kemper profiles are like slices of pizza though. You just have to stuff them in as is once baked, can't mess with them without spoiling them.

  • @robertmakins5070
    @robertmakins5070 4 роки тому

    The Tele through the amp was the perfect crunch tone IMO.

  • @JohnnyTheNiceGuy
    @JohnnyTheNiceGuy 4 роки тому +2

    As usual, amazing video quality! Thank you Paul!

  • @jimlansa7098
    @jimlansa7098 4 роки тому +1

    great guy,great channel

  • @Rich-NH
    @Rich-NH 4 роки тому

    Ah, you nailed it!

  • @DanielOutdoors
    @DanielOutdoors 4 роки тому

    Paul it sound great man, thanks for inspiring me to get Kemper this time. I used to have Fender Supersonic, then saddly sold it. Today i have a Fender Mustang V wich profiles Supersonic okey, but problaby get the Kemper soon

  • @robertclarkguitar
    @robertclarkguitar 4 роки тому +2

    I think if I was able to afford a kemper, I'd tell the store first I need to profile every amp they have on display until I'm happy. Then leave with purchase. Heheheh. Perhaps....😂😂

  • @ignacioc.ayerza3711
    @ignacioc.ayerza3711 4 роки тому

    Eeeaasy man! Don't get dissapointed. You have done a lot of great videos despite this final part was not as you expected.

  • @crisaisonsunga3309
    @crisaisonsunga3309 4 роки тому +1

    love this guy

  • @threestrings5333
    @threestrings5333 4 роки тому

    Hi Paul, this is not a commercial message but a friend of mine (ook een Nederlander) makes some amazing profiles. The key to it from what I understand is microphone placement plus also using the best microphones and preamps available while keeping it as simple as possible. If you like have look at www.fdprofiles.com especially his Vox AC-10, Valco, old Fender and Marshall profiles are killer! Not the regular stuff you see everywhere. Thanks for the superb content you keep on creating. Groetjes Tristan

  • @davimelo9181
    @davimelo9181 4 роки тому +1

    The matchless felt somehow more "alive", but the kemper still sounded outstanding

  • @arielavinoam7264
    @arielavinoam7264 4 роки тому

    Both are fantastic really.

  • @fertirado3236
    @fertirado3236 4 роки тому +5

    In my experience, any modeling amp would never sound better than the original real amp
    *But for their price they are REALLY DAMN GOOD*

    • @fertirado3236
      @fertirado3236 4 роки тому +1

      Btw I would appreciate advise on my rock videos on this channel, I’m really working hard on making great content ;) thanks in advance

    • @ezer0923
      @ezer0923 4 роки тому +1

      There have been instances where the profiler rectified some of the amp's problems

  • @Cuardaitheoirfirinne
    @Cuardaitheoirfirinne 4 роки тому

    Still the Matchless. Great playing.

  • @kymn1596
    @kymn1596 4 роки тому

    You Are actually one of my favorite guys. Nothing more to say

  • @musicinsession
    @musicinsession 4 роки тому +2

    A good tone is a good tone. The difference is that with the Kemper you pay £2K and get to play hundreds of £2k amps and share them with your friends. Do they sound the same? In the mix, yes, very hard to distinguish if not impossible (especially in metal). In a performance? HELL NO! Not close and not the same feel at all. When you play a tube amp you listen not just to tone but you literally feel it also. the air moving, the valves generating the power, it's just a completely different experience! I have both a Kemper and a Mark V and can guarantee it's not the same thing AT ALL when playing live. But in the mix? Indistinguishable!

    • @netzarim1277
      @netzarim1277 4 роки тому

      I can agree with you as long as you don't monitor yourself with IEM. If IEM are used all the amp in the room, air moving, etc are pretty much lost.

  • @CynHicks
    @CynHicks 4 роки тому +1

    The Kemper seems to have less "sustain" or "compensation" on the lower end. Seems to be more "clean" on the highs also. I personally prefer that.

  • @Firepower6Dfour
    @Firepower6Dfour 4 роки тому +2

    Good video bro

  • @arvidjohann7093
    @arvidjohann7093 4 роки тому

    This video has a really cool spirit.

  • @Bucketlee
    @Bucketlee 4 роки тому +4

    This man has such an amazing ear and philosophy for music it's truly amazing. Thank you Paul Davids for really showing us what music can be.

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 4 роки тому +1

      Thank You for that comment Bucket Lee, you've articulated my feelings/thoughts perfectly.

  • @jbonillaguitar
    @jbonillaguitar 4 роки тому +13

    the amp sounds like it's in the room with you while the kemper sounds like an amp in an iso booth.

    • @TraneFrancks
      @TraneFrancks 4 роки тому +2

      Right. The next part of the equation is to use the Matchless cab to create a new IR for the Kemper.

  • @MadKryl
    @MadKryl 4 роки тому

    Kemper good is a back'up amp. Matchless - better, but in mix... Your profile is pretty good. Matchless for studio, Kemper for live session. all sound is good.

  • @psycofdo
    @psycofdo 4 роки тому +3

    Hi Paul. You actually rose to the challenge! Great!.
    So... you really had a hard time with profiling!. Being part of the group of people that insisted on you profiling the matchless, and after seeing what it takes to get a decent profile, I understand your point. But... the profile you got after all the pain is pretty amazing! Definitely a whole lot better than the one you had and used for the first demo. A couple of tweaks here and there and you hardly could tell the difference. And mostly, TUNED to the way YOU use the amp, offering a fair chance for the kemper to shine on what's designed to do.
    The lack of A B comparison before you got the amp may have forced you to settle with the old profile, and surely you made it work. But it has to be said: A B comparing with the real thing or with the resulting profile you got, that old profile sounds bad to my ears.
    Thanks for all the trouble. Now you can leave that gorgeous amp at home for recording and bring it chocolates and flowers, and take the kemper for a beer after the gig!.

  • @thijs199
    @thijs199 4 роки тому

    Het punt voor de matchless is gewoon dat recording gear altijd inferior is ten opzichte van het menselijk gehoor, allicht. Menselijk gehoor staat gelijk met het brein, heeft daarmee de snelste gegevensverwerking, het evenwichtsorgaan speelt waarschijnlijk een grote rol met de perceptie van het geluid in de ruimte, dus akoestiek speelt een veel grotere rol etc etc. laag en hoog opname geen mids verkleuring, gaat maar door.
    Dus de kemper blijft voor mij een handigheids dingetje.
    Maar als ik iets digitaals zou kopen dan zou ik waarschijnlijk zoiets kopen.

  • @2bikemikesguitartopics145
    @2bikemikesguitartopics145 4 роки тому

    Kemper came close clean but dirty couldn't tell diff. Clean, the Matchless is a tad warmer and smooth. Kemper still slightly schrill to my 👂

  • @matteosaottini930
    @matteosaottini930 4 роки тому +3

    that s freaking close man..

  • @sebastienboisvert3268
    @sebastienboisvert3268 4 роки тому +1

    If tone was swiss cheeze, the Kemper would just have a couple more holes in it. They smell the same but the amp is just fatter. Good job on the vid. Its entertaining!

  • @KutWrite
    @KutWrite 4 роки тому

    That was fun.
    I'd say they were awful close. Maybe the Kemper is a slight bit more muffled, but I doubt I'd know if you didn't put the subtitles there.
    Your dreamy background music is cool. Did you play that?
    What's the semi-hollow guitar hanging behind you? It has a sort of Bigsby vibrato.

  • @SafelandingRecords
    @SafelandingRecords 3 роки тому

    There is a SLIGHT treble frequency piercing through on the Kemper. Other than that, its a great fight.

  • @arlesmauck9434
    @arlesmauck9434 4 роки тому +2

    Profile all the things!

  • @FernandoPaul
    @FernandoPaul 4 роки тому

    Thanks! Great video.

  • @telecastersRthebest
    @telecastersRthebest 4 роки тому

    That's pretty damn close, especially on speakers!

  • @richardcrompton6009
    @richardcrompton6009 4 роки тому +1

    I have a decent amp and it sounds so different in different band situations. A great sound on its own often sounds rubbish when we are all playing together...