A Look at the Canucks' Changes and Potential Lines for Next Season

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  • @paul.dhaliwal
    @paul.dhaliwal 3 місяці тому +127

    Can’t split up that third line that worked so well last year

    • @matthewjudge3763
      @matthewjudge3763 3 місяці тому +4

      @@paul.dhaliwal I wanna see Petterson between Josh and Garly.

    • @fbsiubvsitdhdhjuk
      @fbsiubvsitdhdhjuk 3 місяці тому

      ​@@matthewjudge3763No. Petey needs to get his own line going.

    • @chadrichards6607
      @chadrichards6607 3 місяці тому

      that was last year

    • @MrFernandes85
      @MrFernandes85 3 місяці тому

      @@chadrichards6607 for 58 minutes total

    • @jayb4779
      @jayb4779 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes I agree why split up that magic

  • @squiggleface3631
    @squiggleface3631 3 місяці тому +154

    I feel cautiously optimistic. Often a breakout year might be followed by a step back. I'm hoping this doesn't happen to the Canucks like it did after their playoff success in the playoff bubble of 2020. I'm cheering for my local team but I've been burned too many times with my lofty expectations.

    • @J-jizzy_
      @J-jizzy_ 3 місяці тому +8

      I think they will have a season with the same record, but with lower highs and higher lows. I expect it to be a very consistent season in terms of goal%.

    • @ajbolt7
      @ajbolt7 3 місяці тому +8

      If nothing else, the 2020 off-season was an absolute disaster and it was crystal clear the roster was worse going into the 2020-21 season. This hasn’t been something like that.
      I’m expecting a step back this year after the breakout season but what happened after the 2020 playoffs was far more extreme than just a step back lmao

    • @Ryyder64
      @Ryyder64 3 місяці тому +1

      Hey! No reason to talk about the devils like that! 😂

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 3 місяці тому

      Completely different situation. They are not even remotely comparable

    • @r_v_t_
      @r_v_t_ 3 місяці тому

      think we'll take a step back but I feel better about the rest of division (excluding Oilers) than this time last year.

  • @nyern
    @nyern 3 місяці тому +62

    Hoping to see two Elias Petterssons confusing every announcer this season

    • @kellismith4329
      @kellismith4329 3 місяці тому

      They can pull masks like the Killer Bees

    • @brandonliu596
      @brandonliu596 3 місяці тому

      They had the Sedins for decades I think they can handle it😂

    • @GWh135
      @GWh135 3 місяці тому +2

      @@brandonliu596 The Sedins had different first names. Definitely not the same thing

    • @Just-a-Canuck
      @Just-a-Canuck 3 місяці тому

      D petty making the team this year?!?’ That would be wild!
      I can’t wait for a all swede stud d line of D petty and willander

  • @bimjenning6962
    @bimjenning6962 3 місяці тому +60

    Hope Lekkerimaki has a good camp and starts off on EP40’s wing. If he’s ready for NHL minutes that makes things very interesting for Toch

    • @trevorscollon
      @trevorscollon 3 місяці тому +21

      @bimjenning6962 it's unrealistic that Lekk cracks the opening night roster. It's better for his development to give him the full season in Abby.

    • @bzhouka9679
      @bzhouka9679 3 місяці тому +2

      @@bimjenning6962 his game is still very raw and he needs ironing out on the d side of the puck and his off puck positioning

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 3 місяці тому +2

      @@trevorscollon Yes that’s why he used the word “hope”

    • @nicholaslouie7590
      @nicholaslouie7590 3 місяці тому

      @@trevorscollon Tocchet gets the final say in that, if he ends up looking ready then it's hard to pass up.

    • @420camk
      @420camk 3 місяці тому +6

      @@bimjenning6962 He's likely starting in Abby. Might see him come up for a couple games this season though. Even if he does kill it at training camp, I dont see tochett bumping anyone down out of top 3 lines currently.

  • @chrisgoodings4450
    @chrisgoodings4450 3 місяці тому +25

    I dont think you split up Garland and Joshua. Miller centering those 2 would be an insane line.

    • @Just-a-Canuck
      @Just-a-Canuck 3 місяці тому +2

      Oh yea, I honestly didn’t think about miller between those guys.
      Debrusk petty boeser
      Joshua miller garland
      If that worked it would be wicked

    • @dinarseklers4409
      @dinarseklers4409 2 місяці тому +2

      Really liked Garland-Joshua-Blueger trio doing well last season

    • @debuthunter5389
      @debuthunter5389 23 дні тому

      @@Just-a-Canuck - Exactly this top 6 I think is epic.

    • @debuthunter5389
      @debuthunter5389 23 дні тому

      Joshua and Garland had the best chemistry of those 3 and are more 2nd line than 3rd line quality players imo. Miller only improves that line.

  • @hughesfan4343
    @hughesfan4343 3 місяці тому +12

    Debrusk-Petey-Hog
    Heinen-JT-Boeser
    Dak-Blueger-Garland
    Pod-Suter-Sherwood
    are the right lines for me. I also wouldn't mind swapping Hog and Bowser if Petey struggles again. I trust JT to produce regardless of who he plays with. If Debrusk and Petey work well and Hog starts to struggle I'd like to see Podz given a chance - Maybe has a similar development to Nichuskin (except we hopefully keep him).

  • @DarkBeoulve
    @DarkBeoulve 3 місяці тому +28

    As Canucks Fan. I like the additions they made. I believe there top six is better now than last year with DeBrusk. Im excited for next season!

    • @J-jizzy_
      @J-jizzy_ 3 місяці тому +5

      Defensive depth is worse though….

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 3 місяці тому

      @@J-jizzy_ They’re going to get another D man before the deadline

    • @remimk
      @remimk 3 місяці тому +1

      @@J-jizzy_ If hronek can produce like the first half then we'll just need to rely on Demko and Silovs a bit more. and since Tocchet style is very defence heavy then hopefully we'll be okay

    • @tomv7949
      @tomv7949 3 місяці тому

      They didn't have Zadorov until late November so they still had their 12-3-1 start without him with generally the same defense.

    • @paullarsen4987
      @paullarsen4987 2 місяці тому +1

      Playing Demko less during regular season is a must do. He had double hip surgery to repair impingement, bone on bone and torn labrum as a young man. Hip issues will be more often as he ages. If the Canucks stumble this year he should be traded. That being said he is an amazing goaltender and I will miss him

  • @Kinesicz
    @Kinesicz 3 місяці тому +11

    We really need some of our prospects to start producing.

    • @420camk
      @420camk 3 місяці тому +2

      We don't have many lol and they're all still a year or two away.

  • @saedo9723
    @saedo9723 3 місяці тому +42

    i wouldn't mind seeing a joshua-miller-garland line

    • @fitzy3000
      @fitzy3000 3 місяці тому +1

      That would be awesome

    • @blackcatsandbooks86
      @blackcatsandbooks86 3 місяці тому +17

      i jus think you can’t split up miller and boeser, when they start goin together they’re magic

    • @the5thlineplaymaker131
      @the5thlineplaymaker131 3 місяці тому +1

      @@blackcatsandbooks86yea Tocchet will keep them together if they’re both healthy for sure. Idk why everybody is overlooking their great advanced stats and production all season and post season

    • @blackcatsandbooks86
      @blackcatsandbooks86 3 місяці тому

      @@debuthunter5389 i could see this happening

    • @TrevorPhilips
      @TrevorPhilips 2 місяці тому

      @@blackcatsandbooks86 true but they can experiment in camp
      if doesn’t work, go back to Miller-Boeser

  • @synergygaming65
    @synergygaming65 2 місяці тому +2

    Definitely a 'win by committee' lineup

  • @RobHFirstReflect
    @RobHFirstReflect 3 місяці тому +25

    We think alike!
    Everyone's been assuming it'll be JT + Boeser & EP40 + DeBrusk, and then keeping The Life Line together as the 3rd. But to me, that leaves serious deficiencies on the top 2 lines no matter who gets slotted in there.
    The only thing I'd change right away compared to Shannon's depth chart is swapping Garland and Hoglander. And then it's really about seeing who clicks.
    I think Hoglander clicks a bit better with Suter than he does with Blueger. So it would be awesome if Heinen happens to have instant chemistry with those two. Could be the second coming of a new Life Line if we get that lucky.
    DeBrusk --- EP40 --- Boeser
    Joshua --- JT --- Garland
    Heinen --- Suter --- Hoglander
    Sherwood --- Blueger --- Podz
    What I really like about that structure is that it's super clear and easy how everybody slots up when injuries occur. The Bottom 9 have especially similar types. And I can just picture the Canucks wearing teams down with wave after wave of similar forechecking, creating frustration and power plays. And not much worry having any of those lines out there against any other team's top 2 lines.
    I'd call it...consistency. And when lines do get shuffled for whatever reason, nobody has to alter their role. The guys can know their assignments and know what's expected of them. I think I like it

    • @33y33-d7m
      @33y33-d7m 3 місяці тому

      hm, that third line scares me

    • @kodychong9568
      @kodychong9568 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@33y33-d7m- scares you in a good or bad way lol ????

    • @Jeff_Ayo
      @Jeff_Ayo 3 місяці тому

      I honestly love that lineup, JT could take good years from Joshua and garland and elevate them even more

    • @vancitycanucks
      @vancitycanucks 3 місяці тому

      I agree. Miller can elevate gars and Joshua.

    • @JH-jw7pu
      @JH-jw7pu 2 місяці тому

      I actually really like this! The first line would be high scoring, but that’s a monster of a second line. Imagine going up against those three guys, all of whom have an aggressive style of play.

  • @TheChristopherlib
    @TheChristopherlib 3 місяці тому +11

    Desharnais better be a regular with the money they gave him. I'm not a Canucks fan, but I like this roster. This team should at the very least be a good playoff contender.

  • @alexstephens8587
    @alexstephens8587 3 місяці тому +24

    Swap Garland and Hoglander and I agree with ya 100%

  • @darkshadowgamer8627
    @darkshadowgamer8627 3 місяці тому +61

    Wouldn't keeping the third line we had last season be good though given their chemistry?

    • @Spectra115
      @Spectra115 3 місяці тому +12

      @darkshadowgamer8627 Yeah I love Shannon to bits but I'm glad he's not picking the lines. That third line needs to stick together.

    • @SMA2343
      @SMA2343 3 місяці тому

      @@Spectra115he said he used Cap Friendly’s depth chart

    • @Spectra115
      @Spectra115 3 місяці тому +2

      @@SMA2343 fair enough, I'm just a huge believer in Garland/Joshua/Bleuger

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 3 місяці тому +1

      Joshua and Garland should stay together. They’re so much better on the same line than they are separately

    • @debuthunter5389
      @debuthunter5389 23 дні тому +1

      Joshua and Garland were the key to that chemistry and are the better NHLers. I think Miller between them makes them even better.

  • @primomoreau
    @primomoreau 3 місяці тому +5

    Like the additions. But no matter what, in Tocchet we trust to keep everyone pulling the same direction. They need that strong direction.

  • @chillspencer.4637
    @chillspencer.4637 3 місяці тому +1

    Optimistic. All the contracts we signed lately have been reasonable to good deals for us. Success comes down to Demko staying healthy.

  • @richardmiller5818
    @richardmiller5818 3 місяці тому +4

    I like the logo

  • @Roberticus_Gaming
    @Roberticus_Gaming 3 місяці тому +11

    Good forward depth, solid goaltending if healthy, the D took a step back from the playoffs roster, still a weak division and some cap to work with to add a 3rd pairing LHD. Playoffs a lock i'd bet.

  • @JCanucks30
    @JCanucks30 3 місяці тому +1

    Im happy with what we've down to the forward corps. I think Debrusk is an upgrade on Lindholm especially given his age and contract, hopefully he can be the answer to Peteys missing winger, and adding sherwood / heinen gives us really good depth and energizing players. Can see both of them being fan favs next season.
    There's a lot to be desired defensively - I think signing both Myers and Desharnais was a mistake. It should have been one of the other. Myers had a great season last year but was partly because of his reduced role playing on the bottom pair. If he or Desharnais are relied on to play top 4, I don't think thats a recipe for success. Even if we end up signing a puck moving RD, that results in having Myers / Desharnais healthied, which would be 2-3m in the box. I think saving that salary and combing our remaining cap to Zadorov would have been a wiser move. Perhaps they want to keep the right side open for a Willander appearance after his colege season??
    I don't mind Forbort, but we're a Soucy injury away (who is already injury prone) from having him play in our top 4 as well, which is yikes. This seems like a D core that Benning would run, which gives me confidence that there's still a move or 2 left up current management's sleeve. I don't think Allvin and Rutherford are dumb enough to think this is a championship blueline. Or perhaps keep that cap space and make a trade to acquire someone like R. Andersson mid-season.

  • @GR-bn3xj
    @GR-bn3xj 3 місяці тому +4

    I feel good about the team. You always worry about when you have multiple players have breakout seasons if they can do it again. Hopefully the experience from this past season helps us in the playoffs next season. I lived Hoglander in the regular season, but he seemed to disappear during the playoffs

  • @warrenyellowknee672
    @warrenyellowknee672 3 місяці тому +2

    Hoglander is the dark
    Hourse this coming up season 20-25 . This is his season to make or break. My fav player on the ice. Always committed & ferocious on the fore check

  • @canuckfreak007
    @canuckfreak007 2 місяці тому

    Hoglander's last season gave a Cliff Ronning feel to it. I really hope he's able to follow it up with another solid outing. This is the best he's looked since his rookie year.. at least with the big Club

  • @NathanCase33
    @NathanCase33 3 місяці тому +2

    I like the moves. I agree with we need a top 4 dman

  • @comoxvalleycurbappealltd.5311
    @comoxvalleycurbappealltd.5311 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for your enlightening insight and thoughts… an intriguing year ahead!

  • @RM-we7px
    @RM-we7px 3 місяці тому +14

    Rather Debrusk than Guentzel. I’m fine with the moves.

    • @stevenrosscarpenter
      @stevenrosscarpenter 3 місяці тому +4

      Especially comparing their cap hits. DeBrusk is also bigger and plays tougher.

  • @bjmclennan
    @bjmclennan 3 місяці тому +4

    Hard to see the moves they've made as anything other than positive, but we've definitely got more moves to make if we're looking to make a serious cup run this year. As stated, our defensive depth is severely lacking. Desharnais has been on an upward trend and I'll be interested to see if he can live up to the hype that management seems to be putting into him. Getting a solid puck-mover has to still be the end goal though, and our trade pieces are somewhat limited if that's the agenda. Hoglander or Podkolzin seem like likely candidates if they can't perform to where we want them, and Forbort is probably the easiest move candidate for dmen. Overall very excited to see how things shake down for the team this season, playoffs will be just as exciting as they were this year.

    • @dungeree7292
      @dungeree7292 3 місяці тому

      You won't be making a serious cup run. Your season ends in Edmonton in 5 games max

  • @mattwilliams7454
    @mattwilliams7454 3 місяці тому +4

    Not sure about the debrusk signing yet. Hopefully someone develops chemistry with Pettersson. Zadorov was really nice to have though.

    • @remimk
      @remimk 3 місяці тому

      Yeah unfortunately Kuzmenko was the one with chemistry with him...

  • @yoholmes273
    @yoholmes273 3 місяці тому +3

    As an American 🇺🇸
    NJ Devils fan with no dog in this hunt, I will be brief.
    I always root for Vancouver 🍁 until I can not.
    " The heritage of the sport is Western Canada 🇨🇦 & despite ... it is still look you in the eye, 👀 answer the question if you can, down to Earth 🌎 people that you love" ❤️ - Doc Emrick 1995

  • @quinnbailey7340
    @quinnbailey7340 3 місяці тому +2

    Hey Shannon. Been following you for years. Love the work you do.
    I dont think that Boeser moves from Millers side.
    I think Sherwood is more used to playing the left side too. Right!??
    What about McWard as a depth callup?

  • @Kitchenwench69
    @Kitchenwench69 3 місяці тому

    The moves were great. The understanding of what type of player this team needs but also making sure they'll align with the system (this may age like milk). And the fact the guys we got seemed legitimately stoked makes it so much more fun

  • @ryanatkinson9622
    @ryanatkinson9622 3 місяці тому +1

    Canucks had 5 all stars last year. Guentzal would have been great but I think they have more depth this way with the ability to add more. I’m very interested in this season and hoping they can do better.
    My hopes last year were that they just made the playoffs but they proved they could beat anyone and now I’d like to see them get to the next round and further.
    I’d say my expectation for this year is at least second round but it’s never easy.

  • @Agrewal101
    @Agrewal101 3 місяці тому +2

    Hope we still on for the meet up , it's supposed to be better weather not so hot 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @thejanwe2002
    @thejanwe2002 3 місяці тому +8

    What do you think about Kylington? Someone who is more mobile for 2nd/3rd pairing role

  • @sloppyjoe4521
    @sloppyjoe4521 3 місяці тому +2

    As much as I like the current 3rd line If we are going to pay garland 4.9m it would be great if he could fit on a line with Petey and Debrusk and have Joshua with Miller and Boeser

  • @clearthesmoke999
    @clearthesmoke999 3 місяці тому

    A very objective view as per usual; great synopsis.
    I'm actually a fan of the Barrie train, let's just keep throwing darts after an overachieving season!

  • @gordonmacdowell8117
    @gordonmacdowell8117 3 місяці тому

    It would be great if the Canucks didn't have dip into their LTIR until after the season starts, because it gives them additional benefits and flexibility to pounce on available players. I like what the Canucks did this offseason, but considering when during the last offseason they got DeSmith and Lafferty, I don't think anyone should think they're done yet.
    I see them running back that successful third line again this season, because on many nights it was their best line, but there's a question about whether Blueger or Suter centre which of the depth lines. I see the Canucks as continuing to use the new NHL style of doing scoring lines as pairs and plugging in a third player, meaning DeBrusk and Boeser would be on separate lines. Heinen will probably get a shot at Suter's spot on the wing, with Miller and Boeser. Sherwood is a great 4th liner who might move up the roster from time to time, which also gives him the opportunity to take Suter's spot on the wing of a scoring line.

  • @zjsz4954
    @zjsz4954 3 місяці тому

    Oh yeah baby this is what we’ve been waiting for this is what it’s all about

  • @danielfelzmann7241
    @danielfelzmann7241 3 місяці тому +1

    I think you have one star centre with one star winger, with miller and petey obviously being the centres and boeser and debrusk being the wingers. The other two wingers will should be what all the players are working towarsds with the exception of the joshua blueger garland line.

  • @rayevans7484
    @rayevans7484 3 місяці тому +1

    I like the direction they've gone, no huge contracts, but some nice depth pieces. I don't think Management is finished, as witnessed by the flexibility with the Cap. There are quite a few teams over the Cap, meaning NHL talent will be available at under the Market prices..

  • @patrickbaklava7297
    @patrickbaklava7297 3 місяці тому +1

    That hat is so sick

  • @lizardjesus2501
    @lizardjesus2501 3 місяці тому +3

    Really wish we kept zadorov

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  3 місяці тому +5

      I wish they had too, but I think that contract will age like milk in Boston.

    • @lizardjesus2501
      @lizardjesus2501 3 місяці тому +2

      @@TheHockeyGuy why ?

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  3 місяці тому +4

      He is turning 30 and physical defensemen who take too many penalties don't age well.

  • @troubleondemand7703
    @troubleondemand7703 3 місяці тому

    I like the moves they made and the fact that they didn't get sucked into a huge contract with excessive term. Alvin and Rutherford and have shown they can work some magic via trades and pickups so hopefully they can get our D squared away during the season.

  • @Mr.Bungle-x3x
    @Mr.Bungle-x3x 3 місяці тому +3

    youtube is unsubscribing your subscribers. I was unsubscribed. Love your Channel. UA-cam must be censoring the canucks like Sportsnet.

  • @mikebaxter247
    @mikebaxter247 3 місяці тому

    Seems like the chemistry created last season is earased with these line combos -Miller/boeser, Joshua/garland/bleuger

  • @tehdoughnut9862
    @tehdoughnut9862 3 місяці тому

    I agree the 2nd pair is subpar and deep offensive teams will take advantage

  • @debuthunter5389
    @debuthunter5389 23 дні тому

    I think things like the Lifeline are good for a time, but not always. Just like how the Lotto line went from hot to not. I would have a run at it this way (if things fall apart, its good to have old reliable lines to revert back to as a plan B):
    DeBrusk - Pettersson - Boeser
    Joshua - Miller - Garland
    Hoglander - Blueger - Sprong
    Heinen - Suter - Sherwood
    With Raty and Lekkerimakki I don't want to include them 'til I see them for real.
    Whilst Blueger was great, Miller is a massive upgrade on that line, and to me it was Garland and Joshua that had the best chemistry of the 3, and are potential top 6 forwards. Millsy is more chippy and will be able to have that entire line just annoy the F out of opposition sides. Petey's line has to be all class.

  • @jameshenry5274
    @jameshenry5274 3 місяці тому

    Shannon, Alvin is such a relief after Benning (Mr. I Really Like this Guy, he was so good five years ago, I'll pay twice his current value) He is not trying to trick other teams. He is making common sense trades that work for the Canucks. Healthy Demko, healthy Soucy, Myers steps up a little bit based on solid coaching, and we could be a contender. I am so happy with the Joshua deal.

  • @kcshfl
    @kcshfl 3 місяці тому

    Decently excited with who the Canucks were able to grab in free agency. I think this will be a bit of a step back year compared to the overachievement of last year. But I think the Canucks will be a better playoff team.

  • @dungeree7292
    @dungeree7292 3 місяці тому

    Definitely taking a step back this year. They won't have a 105 PDO heater for the first thalf of the season

  • @andrewwhiffen3340
    @andrewwhiffen3340 3 місяці тому +2

    I don’t know if I have the same enthusiasm as you. Joshua and Hoglander as 2nd line wingers just don’t do it for me.

  • @kevjones5047
    @kevjones5047 3 місяці тому

    Cautiously optimistic

  • @glenw-xm5zf
    @glenw-xm5zf 2 місяці тому

    I think we drafted well. got more size

  • @patrickday1816
    @patrickday1816 3 місяці тому +4

    If I'm Tocchet, I'm not putting Hoglander in the top 6 over Garland. Garland is a clutch player, and deserves to play with two other clutch linemates. I'm also playing Sherwood with Suter and Heinen, as there's more untapped potential in Sherwood. Hoglander can hang with Podz and Blueger.
    Debrusk-Pettersson-Boeser
    Joshua-Miller-Garland
    Heinen-Suter-Sherwood
    Podkolzin-Blueger-Hoglander

    • @brianpistolwhip
      @brianpistolwhip 3 місяці тому +3

      Your lines look the best 👌

    • @aleagleton6427
      @aleagleton6427 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree

    • @CME-4575
      @CME-4575 3 місяці тому +1

      Seeing garlands effort in game 7 compared to the rest of the team, i think he really deserves a shot in the top 6 to start the season

    • @remimk
      @remimk 3 місяці тому

      @@CME-4575 The guy never gives up

    • @8r3nYT
      @8r3nYT 2 місяці тому

      Would honestly have DeBrusk and Boeser with Miller instead and then Joshua Garland with Petey. I like Miller Boeser combo too much lol

  • @remimk
    @remimk 3 місяці тому

    huge fan of the forward group. but it's left a small hole in our defence. That means hronek and Hughes need to step it up this season if we don't find the man we need. Losing Zadorov is a moderate blow to our defence. but if we can increase the attack and rely on Demko as we have in the past then I think we'll still be in good shape.

  • @j.t.miller1641
    @j.t.miller1641 3 місяці тому +1

    Joshua Miller Boeser
    DeBrusk Pettersson Garland
    Heinen Suter Hoglander
    Podz/PDG Bleuger Sherwood
    Forecheckers and finishers on each line. I expect Hoglander to be on pp2 this season so 3rd line minutes would be perfect. Definitely a few combinations can be made

  • @MySundin13
    @MySundin13 3 місяці тому

    One of my fav jerseys....I need to order one sometime

  • @richardwise350
    @richardwise350 3 місяці тому

    Looks good, would be nice to add another defense man

  • @TheDeepShallow
    @TheDeepShallow 3 місяці тому

    Go Canucks Go!

  • @RobDucharme
    @RobDucharme 3 місяці тому

    0:49 Everyone in the know is saying DeBrusk is a true Tocchet player. I'm excited for that reason.
    1:03 Given how Petts STARTED the season, that injury had to be more nagging than he let on. And I'm ok with that, because it shows he doesn't play it up and he doesn't openly make excuses.
    1:50 In the spirit of Rutherford (paraphrasing), if everything goes right, these two will have success this season. They're building on something special.
    2:04 I don't care what people say about Benning. I know he was terrible with sh!t contracts and some pretty forgettable trades, but that Miller trade is ONE of the best in Canucks history. Not THE best, but among the best.
    3:31 Given that he wears 53, there were times last season where he actually looked like Horvat with his finish in front of the net. It was so weird... He has skill. He's quietly quite the complete package for what he's hired to do.
    4:21 I watched Bains play here in Red Deer. He looked like a man among boys when he was on the ice. I think he just needs a bit more time to develop and adjust to dominate more in the AHL, and he's pretty close to that point now. I guess September will paint a better picture.
    7:59 More importantly, unlike the Benning era, Allvin has a whole team of specific subordinates who work together to help guide his decisions. That's why we're no longer seeing a lot of bad contracts. There have been some risky trades, but I understand what they're doing in those situations. It's a dynamic situation and sometimes you have to take those risks. The turnaround from the Green/Benning era has been stunning to say the least.
    10:00 Here's why I'm excited: They made sure they remained BIG on their D-core size (we can ignore Hugs' height, as he's almost impossible to chase when he has the puck). They signed a cap-friendly top six player who is perfect for Toccs to coach. They signed a top 9 winger who still has growing to do, but has been pretty good so far. They signed a bottom six physical player that Hugs himself was excited to no longer have to play against. They didn't put all their eggs in one basket the way past GMs would do. Now, we just have to see how this revamped lineup gels. Argue and disagree all you want, but this is a solid lineup.

  • @vancitycanucks
    @vancitycanucks 3 місяці тому

    I think we need one more DMAN. I wish we spent the cash on Zadorov but I understand why.

  • @squidMB
    @squidMB 3 місяці тому +1

    Hopefully Lekkerimaki somehow makes his way into getting some minutes for the canucks this season.

  • @kevinvaillancourt5737
    @kevinvaillancourt5737 3 місяці тому

    Canucks fan here since the early 90s. I agree with most of your take, except that I think we're going to see another below-average season from Petey. I watched him very closely all last year, and there is something wrong. Could be the tendinitis, could be something mental, could be something unknown. Nobody knows for sure. Except itis clear from watching him flinch, wince, and fall so much that there is something wrong. Since we haven't seen any word about it, other than the tendinitis issue (and I don't been to downplay this, it's a serious condition, but it also wasn't something the medical team knew about, so this raises questions). I hope he gets it together, for his sake as well as the Canuck's, but my concern is that he's just been beaten down into, I don't know how to put it in words, but like an over-abused person who expects a slap when someone raises their hand to shake? I'm really concerned about him.

    • @samslone9457
      @samslone9457 2 місяці тому

      I think he may be the biggest mistake of this current management. They shouldn't have pressured him into signing. Something is definitely off with that guy

  • @disruptive7640
    @disruptive7640 3 місяці тому

    BC hydro with its annual "let's turn off the power during a heatwave"

  • @badassunicorn5351
    @badassunicorn5351 3 місяці тому +1

    What about Aiden Celibrini? His brother just signed with SJ, is he not good enough as a defenseman?

  • @itrubsthelotiononitsskin1788
    @itrubsthelotiononitsskin1788 3 місяці тому +2

    Should have let Myers walk

  • @deepaktoor7376
    @deepaktoor7376 3 місяці тому +2

    Pesce, cole would have been huge. As soon as they got defensemen (hronek, soucy, cole) they became good. Garland is a top 6 player. Debrusk doesnt move the needle. Petterson can though, need to see the shot and one t back.
    Chychrun, walker, roy. Really miscalculated free agency. Teuravainen, marchessault would have been incredible over debrusk at the same cap. Cant hope for him to become different once you sign him- players usually are who they are.
    Boeser i would trade for meier if i could. Hes smart enough to make up for the skating, but button hooking every time, i just think it would be best to sell high. Like they did with horvat but failed to do with virtanen and demko/markstrom

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  3 місяці тому +3

      No one wanted Virtanen. They tried to trade him, but he had a bad reputation around the NHL. Ian Cole was brutal in the playoffs, so bringing him back would not have worked. You're underrating DeBrusk.
      If they trade Boeser for that Meier contract, I might lose my mind.

    • @danquast1914
      @danquast1914 3 місяці тому +1

      Garland has never been a top 6 guy. He was terrible playing on the first or second line. Only found success once he was moved to the 3rd. Remember, we have tried to trade him multiple times and not one team wanted him

    • @deepaktoor7376
      @deepaktoor7376 3 місяці тому

      @@TheHockeyGuy
      tldr; thanks for engaging with me!
      virtanen i think they could have gotten something during his 20 goal season, before the off ice stuff. but yeah maybe thats why mccann didnt fetch anything either.
      the top 4 is a problem. the vast improvement to the team this year was simple- capable defenders. goalies and forwards didnt change much. before that it was hughes + myers + ahlers holding the fort. thats not going to work, and you mentioned goals for were the same, while goals against improved alot. soucy and cole simply pinning guys instead of getting beat clean made a huge difference. things are always a confluence of factors, but i think tocchet got a lot of credit while the 3 dmen didnt as much.
      so i thought people were underestimating hroneks contribution (and with his shot on the powerplay it would be even more). soucy, their record was nuts with him in the lineup. cole had bad luck during the playoffs with pucks bouncing off him, but hes still a bonafide nhl defenceman that i trust to be a #4. myers the consensus feels like hes a 3rd pair D/#5. forbort and desharnais im not 100% wouldnt get scratched at points during the season. and make poor plays with the puck like i saw desharnais have to run around after these playoffs.
      meier- i know thats a hot take but things change so rapidly in the nhl. he had a down year on a new team, but he was the "darling" at that trade deadline and i think he was legit for it. power forward, good skating, nice shot. i think you can buy low on him now, kinda like i cant believe how chychrun got a 1st rd pick in one year and then a 3rd the next.
      debrusk my problem is hes streaky. and hes had ample opportunity in the top 6 with players like bergeron and pastrnak. i think players play to their best in bostons system (like krug, zacha) so i would expect his production has topped out. and thats 5.5 cap where you could get someone who generates more, like teuravainen or marchessault.
      obviously could be wrong about it all, i loved the jets roster and picked them to win it. on ice theres a big difference vs on paper and i cant figure it out.

    • @deepaktoor7376
      @deepaktoor7376 3 місяці тому

      @@danquast1914 i think if im counting who i can count on to create offense in the top 6, he is one of them. and he was one of them throughout the playoffs, maybe behind miller and boeser only.
      he makes plays and holds on to the puck. thats what you need.
      and top 6 to me doesnt necessarily mean top 2 lines. like i would put him on the 3rd line with blueger and joshua because of the chemistry. but when i count how to spend money on forwards, i have $ being spent on miller, boeser, petterson...debrusk now, garland. and then joshua/hoglander as middle 6.

    • @missstar219
      @missstar219 3 місяці тому

      you’re not getting timo

  • @DougEarl-jk4nh
    @DougEarl-jk4nh Місяць тому

    As long as they give great effort and show up each game . I'm good.

  • @RyanThompson-xe8lt
    @RyanThompson-xe8lt 3 місяці тому +2

    DeBrusk Pettersson Sherwood - (similar to VGK's Barbashev Eichel Marchessault line)
    Heinen Miller Boeser
    Joshua Bluegar Garland
    PDG Suter Podkolzin
    Trade Hoglander at peak value + dead cap.

  • @shyladutt746
    @shyladutt746 3 місяці тому

    Feel goaltending will be a serious question mark for the Canucks post Demko health challenges as well as speed on the defense lines. Would like to hear your comments contrasting Canucks with the newly boosted Nashville team.

  • @JCanucks30
    @JCanucks30 3 місяці тому

    I think next year itll be:
    Debrusk Petey Hoglander
    Heinen Miller Boeser
    Joshua Bleuger Garland
    Aman Suter Podkolzin
    our F group is very versatile. For instance, Suter can slot in on L2 where hes had success with 9 and 6, moving Heinen down to the 4th and 88 in C4, or move Joshua up to L2 and drop Heinen to L3, put 40 between 81 and 8, reunite the lotto line... plenty of more combos we can work with. I agree that having another top 6 forward would be beneficial, but I think our D is top priority right now. Cant have Myers playing top 4 minutes.

  • @andrewgreen815
    @andrewgreen815 3 місяці тому

    Looking good again Lotus Land.

  • @Bralex-o2q
    @Bralex-o2q 3 місяці тому +4

    Kylington could be available. I think he would be a decent 3 or 4 defenceman

  • @jakerobins9059
    @jakerobins9059 3 місяці тому

    So many good forwards that could break into the lineup like Raty and Lekkerimaki that I think we have enough wingers to move one for a D man

  • @JohnnySportsfan
    @JohnnySportsfan 3 місяці тому

    I think the moves they made were as good as they were going to get. I’m more impressed with their resistance to overpaying Guentzel or an equivalent.

  • @jimgap3654
    @jimgap3654 2 місяці тому

    I like your line up better than most I've seen, its almost what I've been saying.. the only difference I have is moving Hoglander down the line up as he struggled against the tougher matchups and did most of his scoring lower in the line up. Id keep Joshua/Garland together and slip Miller in between on the 2nd line.. they can all play matchup roles and defend.
    As for the defence and cap space etc.. I would be going hard after Rasmus Anderson. 2 years left on a great cap hit. Calgary has shown they are willing to deal with Alvin and they want younger roster players, picks and prospects for their rebuild. what's your thoughts on a Hoglander, McWard, 2025 1st rd pick kind of package. would you be willing to up the prospect level to a Willander? Would Rasmus fit Long term with Hughes as Willander was drafted to be?

  • @quinnlee9874
    @quinnlee9874 2 місяці тому

    I feel good about the Canucks free agent signings. My outlook is that GMs only lose on July 1st. No one really wins because you pay a premium. Because the Canucks made little moves in comparison to the cap space they did have, it was a smart offseason. They got tougher to play against. The only complaint I really have is I think the DeBrusk contract is a year too long but that’s what you have to pay on July the 1st.

  • @pegasus6116
    @pegasus6116 3 місяці тому

    Miller - Pettersson - Lekkerimaki
    Debrusk - Hagens - Boeser
    Joshua - Raty - Garland
    Hoglander - Heinen - Podkolzin
    Hughes - Willander
    Pettersson - Hronek
    Soucy - Myers
    Demko
    Silovs

  • @JH-jw7pu
    @JH-jw7pu 2 місяці тому

    Tocchet has heavily spoken about creating duos throughout the 23-24 season, so I think it’s unlikely he will break up Miller+Boeser and Joshua+Garland, unless DeBrusk happens to have better chemistry with either Miller or Boeser than he does with Pettersson. At this moment, DeBrusk is supposed to be Pettersson’s duo partner but I could see Pettersson+Boeser and DeBrusk+Miller being the new duos. No way Joshua+Garland is broken up because their chemistry is so strong that you could put almost any centre between them, and they would put up points.

  • @jevereemetcalf2076
    @jevereemetcalf2076 3 місяці тому +1

    You have to keep the Lifeline together, last years 3rd line

  • @AGUYNAMED278
    @AGUYNAMED278 3 місяці тому

    If debrusk can do anything I'll be happy already

  • @jeremylizotte8992
    @jeremylizotte8992 3 місяці тому

    According to that chart they have 7 defensemen vying to become a second pairing regular...That is great competition to have ...up until the trade line at least. One of them could rise to the occasion.

  • @NK73080
    @NK73080 2 місяці тому

    Kylington… idk, maybe move some of the d prospects into the lineup like Pettersson

  • @roundnround365
    @roundnround365 3 місяці тому

    Good enough to win their share in the regular season.
    Mgmt will bring in a RHD for the second pairing when available.

  • @mattlau
    @mattlau 2 місяці тому

    Let’s not forget we started last year with PDG next to Miller and Boeser. Then we had Mikheyev and Kuzmenko with a good part of the season with Petterson. Replace those 3 with DeBrusk, Heinen and Hoglander and we are looking better.

  • @MySundin13
    @MySundin13 3 місяці тому +2

    They got weaker. I also don't expect Boesser to pass 40 goals again

  • @andersbondensson2042
    @andersbondensson2042 3 місяці тому

    Good off season moves in general. Of course it would be nice to have Lindholm and Zadorov, when they did so well in the play offs, but no way for the contracts they got. Matching those contracts would have been a disaster.
    When the Canucks signed EP40 for eight years, they were pretty much set and should aim for the cup some years away when 11M will look cap friendly for a player of his caliber. So as long as they don’t screw up with some long term risky/bad signings, the upcomming years look very nice for a fan of the team.

  • @the6ig6adwolf
    @the6ig6adwolf 3 місяці тому +1

    Maybe a wildcard team at best.

  • @icewyre
    @icewyre 3 місяці тому

    I'm thinking a worse regular season, but better playoff run

  • @leematson8484
    @leematson8484 3 місяці тому

    I’d like to at least re-visit the Blueger, Joshua, Garland combo that was so effective last season!

  • @rozzie101
    @rozzie101 3 місяці тому +4

    I am not expecting much from the Canucks this season. 1st round maybe...

  • @jonasandersson6594
    @jonasandersson6594 3 місяці тому

    I think Garland with Pettersson and Höglander would be fun to watch. Two hard workers and a good passer.

  • @douggarden
    @douggarden 2 місяці тому

    Joshua ------------- Miller -------------- Boeser
    DeBrusk -------- Pettersson -------- Garland
    Heinen ------------- Blueger ---------- Hoglander
    Sherwood --------- Suter -------------- Sprong
    Hughes ----------- Hronek
    Soucy -------------- Myers
    Desharnias ------ Forbert

  • @connorkenney6938
    @connorkenney6938 3 місяці тому

    Mathason in Montreal might be a good target. He has 2 years left on his contract around 4.5 million.

  • @manpreetlally8465
    @manpreetlally8465 3 місяці тому +1

    I don't get why everyone assumes and wants Garland on the third line

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  3 місяці тому +1

      Because ideally he is on the third line. When he's overplayed, it shows.

  • @TheJimChadd
    @TheJimChadd 3 місяці тому +1

    Max Sasson please

  • @trevorplater4675
    @trevorplater4675 3 місяці тому

    Im very happy with what they did for the forwards.
    I liked the Myers contract it seems like a good contract compared to others. Fobert and Desharnaies make sense but not togother. Im a little worried thst Fabert and Soucy will get injured at the same time.
    I line your line up im just not sure about splitting Joshua and Garland.

  • @evansmith3515
    @evansmith3515 3 місяці тому

    I think Allvin will wait to see what they have in training camp, and if anyone will step up for tha right hand second pairing. If not, he'll probably trade for someone in October. Loving the depth this year though

  • @HeavenlyHouse
    @HeavenlyHouse 3 місяці тому

    They still need a shifty, skilled winger for Pettersson. And Joshua needs to be on a line with Garland.

  • @tonykung8756
    @tonykung8756 3 місяці тому +1

    Top line is gonna be Heinen-Pety-Debrusk, then it's probably Hog-Miller-Boeser, then it's DJ-Bluey-Garland, then it's Pods-Suter-Sherwood. Why are we messing up our 3rd line when we paid more money to keep Joshua? We kept him because we didn't want to lose that chemistry with Gars...

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  3 місяці тому +1

      Heinen really isn't a first liner. That's a recipe for disaster. Blueger doesn't belong ahead of Suter on the depth chart.

    • @tonykung8756
      @tonykung8756 3 місяці тому

      @@TheHockeyGuy Unfortunately, we don't have anyone else on the team who can play full-time on the first line barring some rookie like Lekkerimaki who might surprise us. Our 3rd line of Dak-Bluey-Garland had the most success last season...

  • @Jeff_Ayo
    @Jeff_Ayo 3 місяці тому

    I do feel the team has gotten better, I think Debrusk is a upgrade in the top 6, I think Henin can replace what Lindholm did in the regular season and Sherwood is a fun pest to watch.
    Agree with what you said Joshua should move up to the 2nd line which wasn’t really a thing last year so get him more ice time and maybe he fills that void of having one more guy in that top 6
    At first I was ok with letting Zadorov go because of the overpayment for him but now am missing him the void he has left, not sure what move they can make at this point to upgrade the blue line.
    Also was bummed they weren’t players for Tarasenko