RawTherapee Viewers Request - DO THIS FIRST to speed up your Raw Therapee Workflow
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- Raw Therapee Viewers Request - DO THIS FIRST to speed up your Raw Therapee Workflow
IMPORTANT NOTE: I FORGOT SOMETHING! Before you SAVE the preset, go to the EXPOSURE TAB and UNCHECK Clip Out-of-Gamut Colors - once that is unchecked, go ahead and SAVE!
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Pete suggested I do a training workflow video on exactly how to make my efficient, time saving neutral/linear profile preset in order to speed up your processing in Raw Therapee workflow.
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I FORGOT SOMETHING! Before you SAVE the preset, go to the EXPOSURE TAB and UNCHECK Clip Out-of-Gamut Colors - once that is unchecked, go ahead and SAVE!
Another alternative is to save a "partial profile". Use Ctrl+click on floppy and choose particular settings what you want to save. There is no need in saving a slightly modified copy of the neutral profile.
Hi Andy.As a beginner photographer, I was exploring the alternatives to LR before making the purchase when I quickly learnt about RT and I landed in your channel. In the past couple months, I've been self-teaching myself photography and you've immensely helped me understand the science of colour & post-processing. Your content is top notch and your knowledge is exceptional. Really appreciate you for taking the time to educate us.Too bad the video is just 26 mins lol.
Glad it was helpful, cheers! There is plenty more longer content in the pipeline!
Thank you Andy for your help with the profile
Thank you very much for this video! I am now finding my way through this amazing peace of software and your videos were of tremendeous help! Kudos from Ukraine!
Brilliant Andy.
Thanks for this remarkably thorough examination of what to do before you do anything in Raw Therapee.
I hope others find it useful as I said earlier and although it seems like a lot to do before you get going, it only needs to be done once.
Cheers Pete - don't forget the bit I forgot (see description!) UNCHECK clip out of gamut colours under the exposure tab!
Have just got my first proper camera and trying to start using gimp and rawtherapee. Great descriptions and discussions of why you make certain choices, rather than just saying ‘do this’. Lengthier videos but feels like I’m learning. Thank you.
Cheers Andy, this was a kick in the arse I probably needed. I'd already set a default profile years ago, but watching this I had a few "head in hands" moments when I realised there were a few things that I literally always turn on now but didn't have in my default profile (capture sharpening) because I hadn't been keeping it up to date with my learning of the software.
We all need one of those from time to time - glad you found the video useful, Cheers 🍻🍻
Great video as usual, Andy. Helped me revise my default profile and understand the dual demosaic option better... Thanks again, cheers.
Cheers, glad it helped 🍻🍻
Ground Zero! Got here in the end, or is it the beginning?
Great topic. Nice to know that YT bell is working. Looking forward to watch it now.
Awesome, thank you matey!
Thank you very much for the, RawTherapee is one of the only applications that I can use with my camera Leaf Aptus digital-back. Which I picked up for a song and a dance, they got rid of the ext MOS in DarkTable for some reason.
great vid and so informative! Thank you :D
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful thanks
Glad it helped!
If you want to address a _slow machine_ it's OK to call it a "potato PC".
Or "is challenged by running XFCE" if you want to address Linux users.
Or "Apple has activated the battery saving mode" if you want to address Mac users
😆😆
The "Prof" comes up trumps again 👍 Never yet seen an un-helpful video from you - 'though I've had to watch some over a time or two to understand better! RT is such a multi-layered program to come to terms with... your vids help enormously to understand how deep it goes. Keep 'em coming Andy 🥃👍
Cheers Frank, will do 🍻🍻
First of all thank you for all your outstanding videos about RT image processing!
What do you think about this rawpedia recommendation
> Generally, don't sharpen if you're using noise reduction.
since you recommended turn noise reductinon on by default?
The NR referred to is luminance noise reduction - and in this video I do NOT add any, I only add colour noise reduction - different thing entirely!
what is the difference of the profoto icc you talked about in the video vs the icc tuned with spyder 5 pro device calibrate the screen? Because when using spyder 5 pro or other screen calibration devices, there are tweaks to the color temperature of the screen, the screen brightness required by the measuring device. Is there any difference between icc profoto and icc of monitor color calibration device? Which icc would be correct? hope you answer. Thank you
Hi, of course I'll answer you!
ProPhotoRGB is OUTPUT colour space. Linear ProPhoto is a WORKING colour space, and your monitor profile is the VIEWING colour space.
It's obvious that you don't have the complete picture on colour spaces, so watch this ua-cam.com/video/1CBXPhu-eic/v-deo.html then get back to me my friend.
Hello, I am a recent subscriber and user of (a fork) of Raw Therapee. Over many years I have used Photoshop, Lightroom, ON1 and other raw photo editors. After playing for some time with darktable and becoming frustrated with its quirks, I remembered reading about a modified form of Raw Therapee, a fork of RT called "ART". That program is heavily based on RT with some additions and deletions but has very little instructional information specific to ART. I found your channel which is very helpful for RT and therefore for ART as well. I was wondering, however, if you might consider producing an episode or two specifically for those elements of ART unique to it or significantly different from Raw Therapee.
Many thanks for the help you continue to offer.
Hi Richard, a couple of things about ART.
Firstly, I can never get it to work for long without crashing on my Mac!
Second, the fork has resulted in a dramatic weakening of the RT dev team number - hence too few trying to do too much, resulting in release delay. Things get a little political on that front, so I tend to stay away!
If there are some things in ART that can't be done in the next release of RT, or indeed the current 5.9 dev build then I would be interested to know, and once the 5.9 RT public release is out then I could do an 'apples to apples' comparison video.
Dark Table 'quirks' - oh, that's what they are called is it 😆😆
@@AndyAstbury Greetings! I too have been enjoying your content and find it very interesting and informative.
I also quickly migrated from raw therapee to the ART fork. In my case it was because the exif information in the main raw therapee program failed to display cr3 exif info.
I found this to be too annoying to withstand. Besides, the ART fork seems to provide a more streamlined and accessible use of everything that really matters under the hood within raw therapee. It just seems to work better for me as an interface even though it's roughly similar to the main fork of rt.
Can't get into the politics of whether dividing and conquering software challenges makes for a better outcome. But generally speaking, the more innovation and energy that's invested in this realm of software, the more we as users benefit in the long run.
Keep up the wonderful work!
I have just come across your chanel and enjoyed the tutorial and got a lot out of it.
Someone who is just starting out on Raw Therapee and Gimp I have a couple of questions.
1. What actions would you carryout on Gimp and not on Raw Therapee.
2. With someone on a limtted budget what in your opinion is minimum PC Specification. Looking at the price of the pc you are using 98 GB ram, 12 corezs etc I would be divorced if I bought a similsr machine.
Thank you for sharing the video its much appreciated.
Hi John, glad you are enjoying my content 🍻👍
A couple of things, I don't use Gimp, and I'm on a 2009 Mac Pro 4,1 so my machine is over 20 years old. I flashed it with OEM software that is free, so my machine thinks it's a newer 5,1 so I can upgrade the operating system to a somewhat newer version.
To answer your first question, I would use Gimp for much the same tasks as you see me using Photoshop - dodging & burning, localised adjustment and masking to name just a few.
Answering your second question is more difficult for me as PC and Windows is alien to me. But I would suggest that fast CPU and 32Gb of ram would be a half way decent starting point and perhaps a 2Gb GPU and a good monitor of 24" minimum.
But you will get a far more accurate and detailed answer from the folks over on the Raw Therapee Forum discuss.pixls.us/c/software/rawtherapee/14 as the majority of them are PC users and know vastly more about PC/Windows than I do!
@@AndyAstbury Thank you for getting back and your comments really help😀.
You're welcome John 👍
Thanks, Andy! There was a time when you recommended checking the boxes in the 2nd Preprocessing item under the "RAW" tab for the dead and hot pixel filter. Should that be included in the "mybase" PP3 profile?
Hi Mike - I no longer class those algorithms as essential - they only need activating if an individual image needs them. If they are not needed they could prove slightly detrimental.
When I take images with small grained details it's sometimes degrading the image quality for me with these settings. The software thinks that these tiny spots should be fixed while in reality it's just a small detail. I could see this problem especially in area that were just slightly out of focus.
I couldn't have put it better myself 🍻
@@AndyAstburyI was wondering about this point too. I leave hot pixel on always as I'm fairly sure it's very difficult to trigger by mistake. The chances of having a single very high pixel naturally is extremely low. On Darktable you can make it flag the spots where it's detected hot pixels and you can see it basically never finds false positives.
Maybe we could check Hot/Dead pixel filter also.
I would not advise it any more, see my answer to Mike above.
Great as always! Do you have any personal experience with processing multi-exposure images in RT before merging them externally?
Cheers! Not too sure I understand your question though - multi-exposures?? Do you mean a bracketed exposure blend of 2 or more shots??
@@AndyAstbury Yes, that's what I meant. I'm just getting my scanning and photography terminology mixed up. I'm not asking for any particular advice though, I'm just very curious. An example could be; do you use any specific methods to develop each individual exposure in Raw Therapee before you combine them in another program? Basically anything BEFORE any manual blending or automatic processing, like 'Merge to HDR Pro' in Photoshop.
Hi Andy,
You must know so much about RawTherapee, thank you heaps for the excellent videos.
I have noticed that the photo was taken by a canon camera and the file produced are .cr2. The metadata shows up in top left corner when opened, this info is very useful, like aperture, shutter speed, date and other good stuff
I have a canon eos r which puts out .cr3 files and the metadata doesn’t come . Just an error message ‘ exif data not available’.
Do you know why this doesn’t work, do you think Canon may fix this in a coming firmware or software update ?
Thanks again for great videos!!!
Bill
I've addressed this in other videos, but just for now convert the CR3 to DNG and all your exif will show up. If you don't have Lightroom just go and download the FREE Adobe DNG Converter.
Out of curiosity, why would you start from a neutral tone curve rather than the auto-matched tone curve? Is there a reason to start from neutral rather than the camera-specified tone curve?
Starting from neutral (linear in other words) allows you to see EVERYTHING in your raw file by showing you the raw file straight out of the camera - that way you have better visualisation, and therefore better control of highlight and shadow detail. Pro exhibition image processors have been doing it for years - and in fact the older raw process software always used to display linearised images.
@Andy Astbury: Speaking about ideas/requests for new videos: I would LOVE to see a "I am a RT/photo noob and I need some help"-series.
The videos would be max 5min in length (in part because I know you and your habit of rambling on. I don't want this to be understood as bad quality though. Quite the opposite. You give a lot of detail - but for a beginner it's too much) and would be about very basic stuff like white balance, light adjustment, contrast, sharpening, etc.
EDIT: If you want to leave the _entry level_ videos to other people you can talk in detail about the colour toning tool in the latest build, because f* my ass, that looks like the control settings of a fighter jet!
EDIT 2: I just noticed that the overcomplicated look is reduced when an image is loaded. But still this UI could need some explanation...
So, RT 'Noob' Bite Size - mmmmm......leave that one with me.
I've got every intention of doing an RT course, but it's stupid to do it before everyone can have access to 5.9
Colour Toning - for the most part I find this module a bag of unnecessary crap APART FROM COLOR CORRECTION REGIONS, and I've done 3 videos on that already!
@@AndyAstbury (huhum..) seem to recall talking to you along similar lines a (long?!) time ago about "getting back to basics" for 'noobies' with RT being such a multi layered prog. Agree with all said by @KuruGDI 👍👍
Again though Frank, do I start before or after the public release of 5.9. If I wait until afterwards, then everyone is on a level playing field.
@@AndyAstbury we "chatted" about *noobs* vids *quite* some time ago, possibly before you got so involved in the RT ones - or I mentioned about you going/doing more vids on RT? - in a "general" way - maybe initially for LR & PS...? and you may have said/thought that there are already numerous "starter" vids out on YT already...? It's a while back so I don't recall the details... just know we chatted about such...
Now, as to whether to wait for the 5.9 version to appear before hand? I understand your thinking on that but I'm thinking that there are "probably" some of the basics for noobs to begin with that will be the same no matter what version being used.?
I'm also wondering/thinking that not everyone does an update to the most newest version along the grounds that they don't know a newer version is available? In the past I've only been aware of some because of YOU and your vids on RT.
I'm probably very wrong in this last bit but... unlike ADOBE products like LR & PS that inform the user of an/any update when opened (or now through the Adobe Creative Cloud app) I don't think RT does that when opened??? Or if it does it's probably a setting I haven't come across in RT??????? I don't recall ever getting an email from RT about any new updated version.
@@FrankEtchells You're right there matey - they don't collect your email, so they can't!
RT is FOSS, but some FOSS software - like Handbrake that I use all the time - does collect email, and does let you know when it needs updating, as does VLC.
With regard to 'noob' videos then give me some ideas as to length and content. Most of my existing long ones contain multiple 'things' so are you wanting me to do individual things in their own short vids or what Frank?
Andy,
Thank you for your excellent and educational videos.
I am using RawTherapee 5.8 on Linux Mint 20.2 Uma (Cinnamon) Ubuntu Focal (LTS April 2025).
I saved your first processing profile as BasePP20200423 and this second profile as BasePP20210909. However, I decided to create a third profile, BasePP20210918, as without ticking the Clip out-of-gamut colours check box my clipped highlights appear as a light pink colour when the Clipped highlight indication icon remains unclicked.
Has anybody else reported this occurrence, and do you have an inkling as to what I may have done wrong?
All the best,
John.
I'll do a video on this at some point John, but bare in mind that 'out of gamut' is a badly worded description that would be more accurately worded as 'out of range'. Can you do me a favour and ping me a raw file that exhibits the problem? Use WeTransfer.com and send to tuition@wildlifeinpixels.net
@@AndyAstbury
Andy,
Thank you for looking at my RawTherapee problem.
File transferred as requested.
Best regards,
John.
@@johnleddy9314 Hi John. Load your image into RT, add MyBase.pp3 and yes, your sky goes pink. Instead of checking 'clip OOG' just put a check in the highlight reconstruction box and in the default blend setting that pink will automatically vanish. The sky in the file is badly over exposed - the worst parts are actually at the bottom of the image where highlight areas between darker clouds are blown. Where those areas meet darker clouds there is some severe haloing going on so it's impossible to get a smooth blend.
As I said, I'll do a video on COOG and HL recon soon(ish!).
@@AndyAstbury Hi Andy,
You're a gentleman and a scholar!
I have updated my most recent processing profile and everything is hunky-dory, so thank you for that.
My tif, png, and jpg files for this image show the sign against a pure white background. I bottled out when taking the photo, and played it safe so as not to blow out the hexagon reflectors on the sign; otherwise the whole sky background would have been pure white in camera.
Thank you for being most generous with your time and skill.
I am looking forward to your video covering Out-of-gamut colours and Highlight reconstruction.
All the best,
John.
@John Leddy , you'd got bags of headroom to push the exposure as far right as possible without blowing them. If you had cut that exposure by just -2/3Ev then I think the brightest pixels in the shot would have been somewhere between 250 and 254 RGB max - and you can 'recover' 254. It's 255 you can't. This is why I appear old fashioned in the fact I still use a 1 degree spot meter programmed with the dynamic range of my camera. I can meter the brightest highlight and then push it to a fraction below the clip point - this then gives my fully recoverable highlights PLUS the longest exposure for the shadows because of the increased SNR. Your camera spot meter is no where near as accurate at this job as good old fashioned Sekonic 758 - unless you shot with a 200mm lens on FX, then it's about the same.
Always try for the best SNR by exposing to the right and pegging your highlights as what they are - highlights! But don't clip 'em!
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the ART project, which forks RawTherapee and aims to make a few more things easier: bitbucket.org/agriggio/art/wiki/Home
Hi Midge. The thing I don't like about ART is that some of the RT functions they've thrown out I find very useful! But your comment has urged me to download the latest Mac test build and I can see there are a few things in there that I wish RT would adopt!
I'm sure last time I looked though, ART had local adjustments, but maybe I'm wrong on that.
Also they've not adopted Capture Sharpening, which I think is a big mistake.
I DO like the 'show Tonal Map' option in the Tone Equalizer - RT really ought to adopt that as it makes things a lot easier for beginners to understand what's going on.
It's just such a pity that the split happened if you ask me - RT is suffering IMO for sure due to increased workload on devs that are still there.
@@AndyAstbury I only recently found out about it and feel similar to you. RT is so powerful but the learning curve is pretty steep. I get what they're trying to achieve with ART, and found it to be a lot faster but I like the toolset native RT has, even if it can be a little clunky.