Simon, What we like about your channel is that you have gear that you like and continue to use. Switching out gear for the sponsorship is not your style and that's one of the reasons that we enjoy joining you on your adventures. Well worn gear shows us that it can handle the day to day use. All our best. Skillet
I have had my fire box stove for over two years now and it is my main source of cooking. I love how versatile it is. I have used charcoal, wood, wood pellets, gas blocks, Tran Gia. All the different configurations are amazing. And with a Billy can I’ve even made cinnamon rolls in it, and baked a whole chicken. I just love it I can’t imagine using anything else.
I make my living in the backcountry and use the Firebox Stove. It packs easy, assembly is simple, fast and the quality is unmatched. When your 75 miles in the woods and it's -40 you need to get your fire going fast and Firebox gets it done.
Good comparison. Note that Firebox has a titanium version at half the weight, though at double the price. Further, they have a ‘Nano’ version, which is very lightweight and a fine little stove. Smaller form means you must tend the fire more frequently, but it, like it’s big brother, is hinged and sets up instantly. Though the Nano steel is light, the titanium version is a feather. The steel model you have is bombproof. It will support cast iron, if you’re car camping. Don’t forget that you can use four fire sticks to make a cradle for a billy pot on its side to make an oven. I’m a Firebox advocate, as you might guess. Your Honey Stove is obviously functional, but I’ll go with the Firebox for durability and flexibility.
Excellent! They both have appeal. I just ordered the Firebox, I bought the entire setup for $99.99 the Honey stove is $53.00 depending on where you buy them. I never heard of the Honey Stove. Since I don't worry about weight I chose the Firebox. Very nice video thanks
Thank you! That is very kind, I’ve been watching your inspirational videos for ages, so it really means a lot! Your stoves are top notch by the way - going to get a nano at some point soon, to replace my fiddly honey stove, lol! Thanks again and really glad you enjoyed it! Simon.
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Great stove, I’ve had lots of use out of mine since I made the video - it’s my ‘go to’ number one stove - and I’ve got a lot of stoves!! Cheers, Simon.
I've been cooking on wood stoves for a few years now and prefer them. I recently bought the Firebox G2 and found this vid an interesting comparison. The Honeystove scores on weight, the sheer mass of the Firebox certainly makes you think twice before a long hike. Where the Firebox wins it for me is because the Honeystove has to be clipped together. Just too fiddly if you are cold or have had too many drinks at camp! Minor issues are I like being able to load the Firebox with a large log split into four. I get a burn time of nearly an hour which means I can cook my food and then put water on for a drink whilst I eat, without having to feed any more fuel. My conclusion is Firebox wins as I normally camp with a motorcycle, so weight not an issue. If I was hiking I would use a Lixada or Solo, both of which I already have. Honeystove would be a good buy for those who don't have a wood burner currently and lightweight campser. Thanks for this video, good comparison.
canopus101 - Cheers, thanks for watching! I agree with you completely - the firebox is a good size - I too burn split logs - Swedish torch style, as you say, you get a good burn time. I’ll keep the Honeystove, simply because if it’s lightness and I haven’t bought a nano yet!!! Lol! Thanks again, Atb, Simon.
You can find sticks and bits of wood everywhere. It doesn't take much to cook a lot of food and or boil water. Fun cooking on the patio or backyard, and it's great practice for when you go out in the field. If you burn or mess up your meal in the field you don't have a fridge or alternate food stores to start over. 🔥⛺
Have three of the Firebox stoves and love them. I keep one in my car for emergencies, one in my camping gear, and one at home in case of power outages. Easy to cook at the park/beach anything you want and can pack very lightly. Plus a good heat source when the beach gets cooler at night.
Two good stoves, a great comparison, I've had my Firebox for 5 years now and still going strong, very versatile without to much faffing about. Great video thanks!
+Chris Millington - Thanks Chris, I really like the look of the firebox, I've got to play about with it a bit and 'learn' how to use it, but first impressions are good! Shame it's so heavy - a titanium one would be nice, but the stainless was expensive enough!! I know they do a lighter version without all the bells and whistles. I think I'm going to really like it - weight isn't everything! Atb, Simon.
Thanks for reviewing my UK designed and manufactured Honey Stove. You are correct in that it is designed to be as simple and as light as possible for lightweight bushcraft and backpacking activities. Since I began producing it in 2007, many new stoves (and copies) have come onto the scene which offer hinges and other options. But the penalty is always weight. Sadly I have yet to find a UK manufacture who can 'roll fold' in (as opposed to 'weld on') hinges on the .5mm Stainless and Titanium material I specify. You may not be aware that there is an expansion module called 'The Hive' which will expand the Honey Stove to 8 sides offering another solution for larger parties. Soot degrading and warping of the hinge pin is a long term problem which may of these 'cheap Chinese' folding stoves suffer from over time. My other UK designed and manufactured product 'The Pocket Stove' has now been sadly copied by Lixada and several other Chinese copy houses and people should be aware that 'cheap' doesn't always mean 'quality' as their poor performance reflects badly on the original UK name. See backpackinglight.co.uk for more details.
Thank you - I’m a big fan of the Honey stove and have used and abused mine for a few years now. I like the simplicity of it, the versatility and of course the weight! Great stoves!! I knew about the hive expansion and should have mentioned it in the video - a really good idea for group use as you said! I totally agree with regards the flooding of cheap stoves available - a quick eBay search proves that - cheap mass produced, poor quality copies! Really like your stoves - keep up the great work! (And if you ever need another tester/reviewer of your products.......lol!) Atb, Simon.
Just to add: I also have a Honey Stove and for all round versatility it's fantastic. I did consider the Firebox due to the pre-hinging and rapid setup design but the weight was an issue. Oh, and when I received my Honey Stove in the post, there was a nice surprise: a bag of Skittles! Nice touch.
+david mcintire he didnt mention firebox, only lixada. firebox is a german company and, as simon points out, is more expensive, well engineered and of a sturdier build at the cost of weight. im sure TheOutdoorsStation has nothing but praise for the firebox but would be quick to point out the differences between his and their designs. the lixada pocket stove, on the other hand, is a cheap chinese rip off of his blood, sweat and tears.
TheOutdoorsStation there are Chinese companies ripping off peoples intellectual property as a business model with the complicity of the Chinese government...it was a major problem when I worked for a multi national chemical company let alone a business like yours. I despair of when the general public will wake up to this problem.
@@derekmcmanus1423 With the blessing of the government of CHINA: C ounterfeiters H ave I ts N ational A cademy - their own government (!) [ Great review, worthy of supporting both original products. Quite like the idea of the Honey Stove's Hive functionality. I have used their featherlight (and cute neatly packaged) titanium Pocket Stove which if situation demanded can be used with pellets. I received a Firebox nano as a special-occasion birthday present from a friend who swears minimalism. Nothing quite like cooking over a real fire - nowadays though needing to conserve in case of political meltdown and there remains a shortage of available resources, a minimalistic swedish fire configuration seems the way to go. PS: Heaven forbid that "Prometheus stole the fire" is not euphemism for a future post pandemic world of Microwave oven and electric cooker only configurations, LOL.]
The Company/Manufacturers are Amazing group of People,,, And Yes,,, made in America,,,!!!! I just bought the Titanium Firebox 🔥,,,, it truly solves the weight problem,,,, Cheers my Friend,,, Joshua
Great walkthrough, very informative. It was nice to get your personal impressions and see a burn in each stove. I love my Firebox, definitely my goto stove when adventuring with the kids. In that situation the weight is an advantage, pots are stable and when the Firebox is set up and lit that area becomes the kitchen. It really is a campfire in a box! But for solo hiking something lighter is more desirable. The Honey Stove looks like a great option. I especially like a round or hex burn chamber, it seems like the internal convection is better in those stoves than with a square burn chamber. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for this - after watching, I brought the Honeystove from the UK. After a nine week wait (parcel restrictions due to reduced flights) it’s finally arrived along with an Eagle kettle......will fire them up tonight.
The 5in Titanium firebox is maybe the best cooking stove ever in my experience. I have a SS one too that I use when I go fishing, but it pretty much lives in a tote in the truck and I don't have to pack it on my back
Very enjoyable to watch. I wasn’t familiar with the Honey Stove. In checking out packable wood stoves last year I found myself drawn to the very simple 180 Flame (little brother of the 180 Stove). It’s simplicity makes it very easy to assemble, flexible and totally packable at ~181 grams. May suit some folks who keep things simple.
Love it that Brits coined the phrase "fiddley bits". It is a proper description and I find I use it, even as a Yank, all the time. Considering a Firebox due to it appearing to have fewer fiddley bits.
I have an old basic 4 sided backpacking stove that is light weight, similar to your honey stove, but for car camping or even here at home I use my firebox to bbq on my porch. I’m just cooking for one or two so the firebox stove is my summer cooking option so don’t heat up the house. And who doesn’t love food cooked over wood? I’ve used it camping so I’m more efficient using the local wood. I love my firebox stove. It’s def a better made stove. It doesn’t smoke as much and I don’t slice up my fingers putting it together. Their nano version is light weight and works really well too. I have both. Thanks for posting. I learned about the honey stove. Looks really versatile.
Realy enjoyed your comparison test Simon. Great video. I bought my fire box last August I love it plus the zebra billy cans. Amazing equipment to last a life time. The fire box I've used charcoal for my first burn in travone Cornwall cooking scallops. Then burnt drift wood. Amazing taste. I've now just purchased a trangia stove and some hex blocks. And next on my to list cat lit wood pellets. Such a brilliant stove. I have liked watching all of you videos brilliant information you give out and very useful. Thank you for making them. 👍
Thank you Robert, really glad you are enjoying the videos! I agree with you about the firebox and the zebra billy - built to last!! It is so versatile too, like you say - twigs, pine cones, meths, hexamine blocks, charcoal, wood pellets - you name it - a true multi-fuel stove! I love the idea of cooking scallops on it - I love scallops!!! Thanks for watching! Atb, Simon.
nice comparison. Thanks for the video Simon. I have had the same firebox for 5 years. you're right. They are heavy. Good for a bike tour but for hiking I just bought a nano titanium firebox. 113 grams (4 oz) Feels like I'm carrying a feather compared to it's big brother. Does exactly the same things. And the thing i like best is you take it out of the case, unfold it and start cooking. Zero assembly.
Great video, just got myself a stove and yet to test it out. I normally use a small barrel barbie but I would use so much wood on it and go home stinking of smoke, I liked the way you showed us how the honey stove works as a mini stove...Nice one Simon...
Thank you! I’ve used all sorts of stoves over the years, but these two are really great - versatile, free to run, compact - just brilliant! Hope you get on well with your new one. Atb, Simon
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I'm a latecomer to the bushcraft world, so I must say that I do like this video. Very informative. I'd heard of Firebox before this but not Honey Stove. There are other stoves like Honey Stove in that they "go to pieces" and are compact/lightweight but you really can't beat the robust construction of the Firebox; that alone counts for a whole bunch in my book. The trangent (?spelling?) stove option with four sides on the Honey is super slick, but it sure does look wobbly/prone to tipping. I'm a bit apprehensive about that. All in all, you've done a great job of pointing out the feature-rich aspect of both stoves, even if you have to buy add-ons for the Firebox and not the Honey. There always seems to be a trade off somewhere. Thank you for your review.
Thank you! I think you’ve hit the nail on the head - there is indeed always a trade off - I’ve since got a Firebox Nano stove - a super little pocket rocket! 👍
I think I like the Firebox Stowe Only reason is arthritis and moving small parts and putting stuff together like I saw you do it looked too hard There when the cold or rain or being really tired Thanks good video
HI Simon, another great video thank you, very thorough. I've bought the Firebox stove also, very heavy compared to some as you say however I'm happy to put up with that with it being so easy to assemble and use. Cheers..Paul
Great video once again. I have both these stoves and have been known to carry both if I'm doing a big cook up. I agree the Honey is fiddly when it's cold and wet to assemble. I would suggest for both that you try the Swedish candle method, this gives you a good long burn time. Also worth a look is the Firebox Nano stove. Keep the videos coming and thanks for taking the time to make them.
+Johnnys_bushcraft - Hi Johnny, thanks for watching. I'll have to try the Swedish candle, I saw a demo on one of the Firebox videos, but haven't tried it yet, always just used twigs, but yes, a constant feeding is necessary! I suspect I may too use both on occasions, I won't notice the honey stove next to the kilo of Firebox!! Hehehe! Atb, Simon.
Just found your channel, good stuff! I have the Firebox nano ti, among other stoves, and I have to say, I think it would replace your honey stove for what you want. No faffing about, and very light weight. Also, the Swedish fire is really the way to go with these stoves. Totally changes the dynamic and the burn time is fantastic.
+SLG1911 - Hi and thanks for watching! I've seen the nano, it looks a good stove! I'll have to have a go at the Swedish candle, haven't tried that method before, but if it stops me constantly feeding twigs into it, must be a good thing! Thanks!! Atb, Simon.
I bought a honey stove 5 years ago based largely on this video. I love it. I expect it will last another 10 and I use it all the time. Unfortunately they have stopped producing them.
A great comparison Simon. I have never owned either of these stoves or the Bushbox.....yet, but do have a Lixada Folding Wood Stove (the poor man's version) that works like a dream for me, is very lightweight, robust and cost effective but probably not as versatile as the Firebox. I also have a variant of the wood gas stove (£12) which is also superb when burning twigs, cat litter wood pellets. Thank you for sharing. Paul :)
+-Paul Outdoors - Cheers Paul. They are both good stoves, but to be honest, probably don’t work any better than any of the other twig stoves out there! I’ve heard good reviews of the Lixada, but not used one myself. The firebox is a bit like a dyson vacuum cleaner - has loads of features and bells and whistles, but when it comes down to it, it picks up dust just like a Henry does! I like it though!! Lol! Glad you enjoyed the video! Atb, Simon.
Very nice comparison. You did an excellent job explaining all of the features of both stoves. I have used the Firebox G2 and the Firebox Nano for several years and am very pleased with the robust and flexible nature of both stoves. I have never used a Honey stove, but I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one as a back-up. I am a little late in offering my comments (3 years), but as of now, Firebox offers both models in titanium which answers the weight problem for many bushcrafters. Of course, it is expensive which I think is the major complaint to the Firebox system. But, as you suggest, it is a durable and well made product. But, after watching this video, I might pick up a Honey stove for a lightweight alternative. Thanks for your well done comparison.
Great video comparison. I do find it kinda funny when people talk about the difference of 700 grams a big weight difference but then I realize that not everyone is military and used to carrying heavy weight. Yeah 700 grams extra weight doesn’t mean much to me. But if you are civilian and really worried about the weight I guess it would be important. I had never even heard of the honey stove. Very cool. Thanks for the info bro
Thanks Conrad, good point well made my friend. 700 grams isn’t much really, you just really notice the difference when you have one in each hand. I guess it depends what your doing, a lot of people out there like to go uberlightweight, where every gram counts - but I think there is a trade-off - the lightweight gear is usually a bit too fragile for my uses - I like tough gear that’ll take the knocks and last, and that usually means a bit more weight! Thanks for watching, Atb, Simon.
I like the versatility of fuel choices with each of these stoves. When the apocalypse hits and there's no more propane or fuel tabs one can always use wood.
Was making coffee and cooking a bit to eat , on my way home from 2 dr appointments, at a roadside park , I picked up a few hickory nuts , and noticed they were old and cracked , I put maybe 5 or 6 in my fireboxstove , talk about a hot fire ! I bought a smaller pressure cooking pot , cant wait to cook mixed beans with bacon on my fireboxstove after it burns down , ive a big aochol burner with a windbreak-pot stand to slow cook
I personally use the lixada fire stove but as you mentioned about the weight of firebox,lixada is also very heavy.I believe tha every stove i almost the same and work the same but its everyones personal choise of what are they going to use.Great video as always Simon!!
+LoaferXcursions - it's a great little stove! You can get an extension kit called the hive, which adds two more side panels - good for when you need to cook for additional people or use as a small fire pit. Thanks for watching! Atb, Simon.
We have both the Fire box and the honey putting the honey together is a nightmare in my opinion the metal warps we used it for many years then found Steve with Firebox and wow bought all the 'bits and bobs" or bells and whistles and just love it yes it weighs more than the honey but is built better and you can buy in TI also we own the Nano that too can be in TI so weight is not an issue JUST LOVE THEM work great and our firebox stoves have never failed us
Thanks Sarah! I agree, the Honey is fiddly to assemble, but I still like it - there is something about the simplicity of it! As for the warping, mine has done the same, but doesn’t effect how it works, as the metal is so thin, it bends flat as you assemble. I do love the Firebox stove, didn’t know they they did the big one in Ti, I’ll have to take a look - the nano is on my Christmas list though hahaha! Cheers, Simon
Thanks for the video. I am looking for some kind of wood burning stove at the moment. Having limited use of one hand, your description of the Honey stove and its fiddly bits has convinced me that it's probably not for me! 😉
Firebox does a smaller, lighter version called the Nano - might be worth a look to - also the big firebox is now available in titanium (for an eyewateringly high price tag!) 👍🔥
I have a few stoves myself.. I do not own the Honey Stove, however. Enjoyed the comparison. I announced the release for the Gen 2 Firebox when it was in PreProduction. I enjoyed the presentation. Take care. Shane
Cheers Shane - really like my Firebox - it’s my main stove stove now - really versatile and easy to use - the honey has been demoted to back/up lightweight stove (until I get a nano that is! 😉)
I've got the Firebox Nano titanium with a Trangia and it's the best, most versatile backcountry stove I've ever owned. No grilling option, of course, but unbelievably lightweight, well built, and powerful.
Gordon Lamb - Cheers Gordon - I really like the look of the nano, It would make a good replacement for my honey stove I think- how good is it with wood? Can you get enough in for a decent burn? Cheers, Simon.
Oh for sure. I tend to solo, but it's enough for two people. I use a pot with a flux ring and with oak twigs it boils 1L of water faster than the trangia with 95% ethanaol. Pain to clean the soot off said flux ring afterwards, of course. :) The only time I bring an isobutane stove these days is, ironically, in the winter when I use it to heat the tent for a couple minutes first thing in the morning (and to make that first cup of coffee).
Gordon Lamb - Thanks mate, It’s sounding better all the time! Like you, I’m way too impatient for my first hot drink in the morning to bother with wood - my Trangia burner usually earns it place then!! Thanks for getting back to me - appreciate it. Atb, Simon.
Lee Burwood - Thanks Lee, glad you liked it! I’ve used the Swedish torch in it a few times - good long burn with minimum fuel, but I haven’t used wood pellets - I’ll have to give that a go! Cheers, Simon.
Simon, a bloke in the woods the pellets I use are just the cat litter ones. ( which are the same as the bio mass boilers ) if you are handy with diy I’ve made my own plate to go inside and a carbon copy as well of the extended grill. I know it’s heavy but it’s built to last. Also if you don’t use it for a while I wipe mine with a little olive oil because it doesn’t go off
Cheers! I’d be cautious using it ‘in’ your van - it gets really hot and as with using any open flame carbon monoxide will be a real issue. Better and safer to use outside your van! Atb, Simon.
Sorry I didn't mean inside my van. I will only cook outside. I have ready ordered my kit. I'll use it as a backup if I run out of butane in my single burner cooker.
Moon Buggy - just spotted that your van is a Mitsubishi Delica! Great vans - I used to own one - a white 1990 2.5 tdi, I converted mine into a camper too! Had many great adventures in that wagon!
Great video! for me Firebox is the best, very straight forward & sturdy. Doesn't produce much smokes as we can see in video,because it has very good flow of air on it. Thanks for sharing Simon!
Well done Simon good review. Honey box too fiddly, Firebox solid packs down easily, seems more versatile, weight not an issue, cost, well a bit steep for all the bits and bobs but a winner for me!
Not sure about the honey stove but the firebox works brilliant with a small Swedish fire torch and eliminates the constant feeding great video stay safe
I used to spend a lot of time climbing mountains and it taught me to prefer gear that you can use with minimum thought so that if you are cold and confused you can still function, the honey stove would be too much hassle for my mind but I have watched your more modern posts where you use the fire box, it really looks good and is on my buying list, but I have yet to find the exact model on the net [g2-5] I think. but it really is a fantastic piece of kit.
Yes, the Honey is a bit fiddlier to assemble, but it’s nice and light and, having no moving parts, is really simple - the Firebox is amazing though! A titanium version would be the perfect stove I think! Cheers, Simon.
+Craig Mountford - Cheers Craig, great stove, the Honey, my new Firebox isn't a replacement for it, just an addition to! I have a bit of a stove fetish! Difficult to beat the simplicity of the Honey stove, and super lightweight too. Atb, Simon.
If your wood grain is straight enough you can split a smallish log into 4 quarters or 4 thick sticks and use it like a swedish fire torch. It's efficient enough to burn for hours, several litres worth of water without any constaly maintenance.
+Martin Outdoors69 - I’m still getting to grips with mine really, but I like it. Even to the extent I’m happy to live with the extra weight over my super ultra light honey stove! I’m going to do some videos on the firebox in the future. 👍
Excellent reviews. I think they both look like good stoves. Firebox makes 4 different sized stoves like the one you have there. I believe Firebox also makes 1 or 2 stoves that are shaped differently plus some of theirs stoves have the option of being made of titanium to make them lighter weight. I would really like to have one of these stoves and am jealous cause you have two of them lol Thanks for sharing. I was gone for a while (visiting family, backpacking & camping) but I am back now and have recently added some more videos to my channel. I am looking forward to seeing more of your videos as well. keep up the good work.
+North Country Adventures - Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! I didn't know Firebox made so many different stoves, I thought there were only the two! Titanium would definitely help with the weight! I look forward to watching some of your videos! Atb and thanks for the kind words, Simon.
Hey Simon, I got it wrong. It is the Bushbox by Bushcraft Essentials that has all of these stoves I was referring to. They have (from largest to smallest) the XL Bushbox, LF Bushbox, Bushbox & Micro Bushbox. The XL, LF & Bushbox are available in Titanium too. They are all very similar to the Firebox you show here. They also make a three sided model called the Bushbox ultra light pocket stove which weighs 60g (2.15 oz.). I will leave a link where you can check them out below. Sorry for any confusion. www.bushcraft-essentials.com/english/outdoor-stoves.html
Thanks for the video mate. Had the gen 1 firebox for a few years naw and it's never let me down enjoy. didn't now about the 4 side trangia honey stove method chears for that.
Cheers Daniel, thanks for watching! They are great stoves aren’t they - I’ve got on really well with mine - I hardly use the honey now - I’ll keep it for ultra light trips, the firebox is just so much easier- must be getting lazy as I get older!! Lol! Atb, Simon.
I have the Firebox Stove first Generation I guess. I drove with my KLR650 from Vancouver Island to Alaska, the Yukon and allover Europe, the Swiss, Italien, Austrian Alps and I used always this Stove. I've got the larger Top Grill Plate as well and an Aluminum Windprotection Shield as well as a Trangia Bronze cooker in case that I cannot find firewood or there are Fire-bans. In short, this is the best stove I ever came across, if you have to carry it yourselves and space, weight, quality, versatility and the ability to burn with little wood, is an issue. Watching the 2nd Generation, I must admit, that this is even better. But let me tell you about it's limitations. When cooking, on the Generation 1, there is a much larger opening on the front as with the 2nd Generation. Still, I am constantly feeding it with as large as possible firewood, because it burns the devil so fast, hot and crazy, that will have real trouble keeping the fire going, if you cannot find hardwood to process. Most wood found easily are always fast burning ones and with these you have to feed constantly or the fire will diminish. It burns so good, that there is not even ashes around after you finished. Filling it from the top is very difficult if you have a pan or something already sitting on top. With the Generation 2, where I saw that you can turn the top Left and Right Plate, that is so much better because it allows you, to slide longer pieces of wood already in an angle into the fire. Again, keep sticks as long as possible and as thich as possible, that way you don't have to feed the fire so crazily. In Bad weather I use the Trangia which fits in Gen.1 and Gen2 just greatly. Another great Plus is, that now the iron Sticks are not straiht but curved. I made hundred over hundereds of fires and cooked in all conditions all year round. Being in the Special Forces, I want to be able to cook without having Grocerie Stores nearby but can use small sticks and such to heat, eat and survive. Specifically in times like these. GREAT PRODUCT BECAME EVEN BETTER. I will buy again.
the difficulty in assembling the Honey Stove with cold hands or when hungry is its main flaw. Very light is great. I think I over rated it a bit because of that in my videos now
I agree that the fiddly nature of the stove its downside, however, the lack of moving parts can also be seen as a positive - simple and nothing to wear and fail. Atb, Simon.
the small part is easy to put up, square, but when you go up to the Hive Stove its very tough to put together, and the Honey Stove is hard too. Its a camping stove therefore, not really a survival stove, and the makers dont claim it to be, as I contacted them to ask
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO ,I HAVE BOTH STOVES BUT I HAVE NOT USED THEM YET CAN,T WAIT LOL.I LIKE MAKING THEM OUT OF ANYTHING I CAN FIND IT,S A BLAST PEACE OUT FROM NOVA SCOTIA CANADA
Nice review Simon. I own a firebox, very heavy like you said. I’m going to buy that 5 sided stick stove you had. It is so much lighter I have to at least try it. Huge weight difference like you said.
Cheers Gregory, yes, it is much lighter and simple too - nothing to fail. There are other lightweight twig stoves, but I do like the Honey stove. Atb, Simon.
Great comparison video... both good options with different pros and cons... I’ve had an eye on the Firebox but must admit that I do appreciate the very minimalist Honey Stove... guess I need both... lol
My stick stove is a bushcraft essentials. 5inch and made in germany.its hinged,so it pops open much easier then assembly.flattens out in a bag as you have
Mr. Simon... I love watching your videos, they are simple and to the point yet full of valuable info for those of us who are willing to learn from others. I really enjoyed this video, very helpful indeed. BTW: do you have a channel on cabinet making? I recall you mentioning that is your profession, I too am a woodworker by trade. However I just do the drafting and engineering part of woodworking now as I closed my Cabinet Shop down a few years ago. Again sir, I love watching your videos, keep up the good work !!!
It is simple and works really well, I have and always will be a big fan of the honey stove. The fact it doesn’t weigh anything is the cherry on the cake! Thanks for watching! Atb, Simon.
Jacob Padilla : Simon merely pointed out the strengths and versatility of both items in a fair side by side comparison If you wish to go ultralight go with one model .... If you can manage the weight .... go with the other one
Well done video and very enjoyable as well. I have been working diligently and being very selective on purchasing gear that gives me what I need and keeps the weight down. I like both of these stoves but the 2.2 pounds (1kg) Firebox is rather heavy. The Honey Stove fits the bill for me. Normally, when it's winter here the fire bans are lifted so I would make a campfire...love winter camping. I have an inexpensive Lixada wood burning stove, well, two of them actually just different configurations. Both are super lightweight and I often use a trangia stove with them for cooking only. I burn wood for the "comfort effect" or when grilling a steak. I miss your beautiful country and did most of my camping and fishing in the Norfolk Broads and in Scotland.
Thanks Alexander! The Firebox is a lump that’s for sure, but a lovely stove to use, but yes, if weight is a priority, the Honey is a great stove! I’d say I use it equally as much as my Firebox. Incidentally there is a enlargement kit for the Honey stove, called the hive, which adds two more sides making it a decent sized compact fire pit! I too am a big fan of the Trangia burner! 🔥 Atb, Simon.
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I have had my fire box stove for over two years now and it is my main source of cooking. I love how versatile it is. I have used charcoal, wood, wood pellets, gas blocks, Tran Gia. All the different configurations are amazing. And with a Billy can I’ve even made cinnamon rolls in it, and baked a whole chicken. I just love it I can’t imagine using anything else.
I make my living in the backcountry and use the Firebox Stove. It packs easy, assembly is simple, fast and the quality is unmatched. When your 75 miles in the woods and it's -40 you need to get your fire going fast and Firebox gets it done.
Absolutely the Firebox ! Best stove I’ve ever owned
Good comparison. Note that Firebox has a titanium version at half the weight, though at double the price. Further, they have a ‘Nano’ version, which is very lightweight and a fine little stove. Smaller form means you must tend the fire more frequently, but it, like it’s big brother, is hinged and sets up instantly. Though the Nano steel is light, the titanium version is a feather. The steel model you have is bombproof. It will support cast iron, if you’re car camping. Don’t forget that you can use four fire sticks to make a cradle for a billy pot on its side to make an oven. I’m a Firebox advocate, as you might guess. Your Honey Stove is obviously functional, but I’ll go with the Firebox for durability and flexibility.
Excellent! They both have appeal. I just ordered the Firebox, I bought the entire setup for $99.99 the Honey stove is $53.00 depending on where you buy them. I never heard of the Honey Stove. Since I don't worry about weight I chose the Firebox. Very nice video thanks
Excellent video! Appreciate appreciate your thoughtful insights. Your delivery and editing skills are spot-on! Very enjoyable from beginning to end!
Thank you! That is very kind, I’ve been watching your inspirational videos for ages, so it really means a lot! Your stoves are top notch by the way - going to get a nano at some point soon, to replace my fiddly honey stove, lol! Thanks again and really glad you enjoyed it! Simon.
Simon, a bloke in the woods cheers Simon!
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The Firebox Stove is one of the best camping items I've ever bought
Great stove, I’ve had lots of use out of mine since I made the video - it’s my ‘go to’ number one stove - and I’ve got a lot of stoves!! Cheers, Simon.
JR216 have u tried a gasifier style? Like a solo?
Just been sitting out in the garden with my brand new Firebox stove. Very happy with it. Thanks for the video.
I've been cooking on wood stoves for a few years now and prefer them. I recently bought the Firebox G2 and found this vid an interesting comparison. The Honeystove scores on weight, the sheer mass of the Firebox certainly makes you think twice before a long hike. Where the Firebox wins it for me is because the Honeystove has to be clipped together. Just too fiddly if you are cold or have had too many drinks at camp!
Minor issues are I like being able to load the Firebox with a large log split into four. I get a burn time of nearly an hour which means I can cook my food and then put water on for a drink whilst I eat, without having to feed any more fuel.
My conclusion is Firebox wins as I normally camp with a motorcycle, so weight not an issue. If I was hiking I would use a Lixada or Solo, both of which I already have. Honeystove would be a good buy for those who don't have a wood burner currently and lightweight campser. Thanks for this video, good comparison.
canopus101 - Cheers, thanks for watching! I agree with you completely - the firebox is a good size - I too burn split logs - Swedish torch style, as you say, you get a good burn time. I’ll keep the Honeystove, simply because if it’s lightness and I haven’t bought a nano yet!!! Lol! Thanks again, Atb, Simon.
I have a couple small stoves. I love them. When I don't have time to go out camping I'll use them on the patio for fun.
Cheers Abe, I’m the same, sometimes I’ll cook our family dinner in the garden, just for a change and a bit of fun! Atb, Simon.
You can find sticks and bits of wood everywhere. It doesn't take much to cook a lot of food and or boil water. Fun cooking on the patio or backyard, and it's great practice for when you go out in the field. If you burn or mess up your meal in the field you don't have a fridge or alternate food stores to start over. 🔥⛺
Thank you , Simon .
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Firebox also makes a small folding 4" "Nano" stove in both stainless as well as titanium. Beautiful little stove!
Honey: assembly required
Firebox: no assembly required
Me: firebox wins by a landslide
Have three of the Firebox stoves and love them. I keep one in my car for emergencies, one in my camping gear, and one at home in case of power outages. Easy to cook at the park/beach anything you want and can pack very lightly. Plus a good heat source when the beach gets cooler at night.
Weight (and cost) not being a thing, sure.
I love assembling them though! Same with tents, part of the fun 😊
Two good stoves, a great comparison, I've had my Firebox for 5 years now and still going strong, very versatile without to much faffing about. Great video thanks!
+Chris Millington - Thanks Chris, I really like the look of the firebox, I've got to play about with it a bit and 'learn' how to use it, but first impressions are good! Shame it's so heavy - a titanium one would be nice, but the stainless was expensive enough!! I know they do a lighter version without all the bells and whistles. I think I'm going to really like it - weight isn't everything! Atb, Simon.
Thanks for reviewing my UK designed and manufactured Honey Stove. You are correct in that it is designed to be as simple and as light as possible for lightweight bushcraft and backpacking activities. Since I began producing it in 2007, many new stoves (and copies) have come onto the scene which offer hinges and other options. But the penalty is always weight. Sadly I have yet to find a UK manufacture who can 'roll fold' in (as opposed to 'weld on') hinges on the .5mm Stainless and Titanium material I specify. You may not be aware that there is an expansion module called 'The Hive' which will expand the Honey Stove to 8 sides offering another solution for larger parties. Soot degrading and warping of the hinge pin is a long term problem which may of these 'cheap Chinese' folding stoves suffer from over time. My other UK designed and manufactured product 'The Pocket Stove' has now been sadly copied by Lixada and several other Chinese copy houses and people should be aware that 'cheap' doesn't always mean 'quality' as their poor performance reflects badly on the original UK name. See backpackinglight.co.uk for more details.
Thank you - I’m a big fan of the Honey stove and have used and abused mine for a few years now. I like the simplicity of it, the versatility and of course the weight! Great stoves!! I knew about the hive expansion and should have mentioned it in the video - a really good idea for group use as you said! I totally agree with regards the flooding of cheap stoves available - a quick eBay search proves that - cheap mass produced, poor quality copies! Really like your stoves - keep up the great work! (And if you ever need another tester/reviewer of your products.......lol!) Atb, Simon.
Just to add: I also have a Honey Stove and for all round versatility it's fantastic. I did consider the Firebox due to the pre-hinging and rapid setup design but the weight was an issue.
Oh, and when I received my Honey Stove in the post, there was a nice surprise: a bag of Skittles! Nice touch.
+david mcintire he didnt mention firebox, only lixada. firebox is a german company and, as simon points out, is more expensive, well engineered and of a sturdier build at the cost of weight. im sure TheOutdoorsStation has nothing but praise for the firebox but would be quick to point out the differences between his and their designs. the lixada pocket stove, on the other hand, is a cheap chinese rip off of his blood, sweat and tears.
TheOutdoorsStation there are Chinese companies ripping off peoples intellectual property as a business model with the complicity of the Chinese government...it was a major problem when I worked for a multi national chemical company let alone a business like yours. I despair of when the general public will wake up to this problem.
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[ Great review, worthy of supporting both original products. Quite like the idea of the Honey Stove's Hive functionality. I have used their featherlight (and cute neatly packaged) titanium Pocket Stove which if situation demanded can be used with pellets. I received a Firebox nano as a special-occasion birthday present from a friend who swears minimalism. Nothing quite like cooking over a real fire - nowadays though needing to conserve in case of political meltdown and there remains a shortage of available resources, a minimalistic swedish fire configuration seems the way to go.
PS: Heaven forbid that "Prometheus stole the fire" is not euphemism for a future post pandemic world of Microwave oven and electric cooker only configurations, LOL.]
The Company/Manufacturers are Amazing group of People,,, And Yes,,, made in America,,,!!!! I just bought the Titanium Firebox 🔥,,,, it truly solves the weight problem,,,, Cheers my Friend,,, Joshua
Great walkthrough, very informative. It was nice to get your personal impressions and see a burn in each stove. I love my Firebox, definitely my goto stove when adventuring with the kids. In that situation the weight is an advantage, pots are stable and when the Firebox is set up and lit that area becomes the kitchen. It really is a campfire in a box! But for solo hiking something lighter is more desirable. The Honey Stove looks like a great option. I especially like a round or hex burn chamber, it seems like the internal convection is better in those stoves than with a square burn chamber. Thanks for posting!
Super video, Simon! Viewers, watch until the end. The Honeybox is more versatile then I thought! But, both stoves are smartly made.
Great comparison Simon. Really thorough - thanks for sharing 👍
Well thought thru video as usual Simon. All nicely done, and packed with useful information. Thank you.
Straightforward comparison which was very helpful. Nice vid. Thanks.
Thanks for this - after watching, I brought the Honeystove from the UK. After a nine week wait (parcel restrictions due to reduced flights) it’s finally arrived along with an Eagle kettle......will fire them up tonight.
Great stuff! I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine! 🔥
Hpw did it go? The hunny stove interests me.
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I love my Honey stove, bought one 15 years ago, still going strong..
Really thorough and fair review. Well done. My son and I watched this video and loved it. We are from South Bend Indiana.
Thank you very much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video - they are both great stoves in their own way. Thanks for watching! Atb, Simon.
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The 5in Titanium firebox is maybe the best cooking stove ever in my experience. I have a SS one too that I use when I go fishing, but it pretty much lives in a tote in the truck and I don't have to pack it on my back
Now 2019, both stoves are available in titanium. More expensive but each is half the weight of their stainless steel siblings.
Very enjoyable to watch. I wasn’t familiar with the Honey Stove. In checking out packable wood stoves last year I found myself drawn to the very simple 180 Flame (little brother of the 180 Stove). It’s simplicity makes it very easy to assemble, flexible and totally packable at ~181 grams. May suit some folks who keep things simple.
Thanks! I haven’t heard of the 180 stove (does it get its name from its weight?) I’ll check them out - cheers! Atb, Simon.
Love it that Brits coined the phrase "fiddley bits". It is a proper description and I find I use it, even as a Yank, all the time. Considering a Firebox due to it appearing to have fewer fiddley bits.
Hahah I'm a Yorkshire lad. I've a freind who from kentucky. She loves the British slang I've not thought about this one. Hahah
Haha - it can get tricky, that saying as the word ‘bits’ has another meaning over here! 😂😁
@@simonablokeinthewoods hahaha to be fair. We use it to discribe them bits too. I work a lot in nursery's, (kindergarten)
At 20:40 it looks like the honey stove will fit inside the cup ready to use. I'll definitely be purchasing one of those. Great review Simon. 👍
Thanks Ben - it’s a bit to wide to fit in most pots, but being flat, it slips nicely down the back of your pack or even in a pocket. 👍🔥
I have an old basic 4 sided backpacking stove that is light weight, similar to your honey stove, but for car camping or even here at home I use my firebox to bbq on my porch. I’m just cooking for one or two so the firebox stove is my summer cooking option so don’t heat up the house. And who doesn’t love food cooked over wood? I’ve used it camping so I’m more efficient using the local wood. I love my firebox stove. It’s def a better made stove. It doesn’t smoke as much and I don’t slice up my fingers putting it together. Their nano version is light weight and works really well too. I have both. Thanks for posting. I learned about the honey stove. Looks really versatile.
Realy enjoyed your comparison test Simon. Great video. I bought my fire box last August I love it plus the zebra billy cans. Amazing equipment to last a life time. The fire box I've used charcoal for my first burn in travone Cornwall cooking scallops. Then burnt drift wood. Amazing taste. I've now just purchased a trangia stove and some hex blocks. And next on my to list cat lit wood pellets. Such a brilliant stove. I have liked watching all of you videos brilliant information you give out and very useful. Thank you for making them. 👍
Thank you Robert, really glad you are enjoying the videos! I agree with you about the firebox and the zebra billy - built to last!! It is so versatile too, like you say - twigs, pine cones, meths, hexamine blocks, charcoal, wood pellets - you name it - a true multi-fuel stove! I love the idea of cooking scallops on it - I love scallops!!! Thanks for watching! Atb, Simon.
nice comparison. Thanks for the video Simon. I have had the same firebox for 5 years. you're right. They are heavy. Good for a bike tour but for hiking I just bought a nano titanium firebox. 113 grams (4 oz) Feels like I'm carrying a feather compared to it's big brother. Does exactly the same things. And the thing i like best is you take it out of the case, unfold it and start cooking. Zero assembly.
I’ve since got a Nano too - brilliant stoves. 😁🔥
Great video, just got myself a stove and yet to test it out. I normally use a small barrel barbie but I would use so much wood on it and go home stinking of smoke, I liked the way you showed us how the honey stove works as a mini stove...Nice one Simon...
Thank you! I’ve used all sorts of stoves over the years, but these two are really great - versatile, free to run, compact - just brilliant! Hope you get on well with your new one. Atb, Simon
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I'm a latecomer to the bushcraft world, so I must say that I do like this video. Very informative. I'd heard of Firebox before this but not Honey Stove. There are other stoves like Honey Stove in that they "go to pieces" and are compact/lightweight but you really can't beat the robust construction of the Firebox; that alone counts for a whole bunch in my book. The trangent (?spelling?) stove option with four sides on the Honey is super slick, but it sure does look wobbly/prone to tipping. I'm a bit apprehensive about that.
All in all, you've done a great job of pointing out the feature-rich aspect of both stoves, even if you have to buy add-ons for the Firebox and not the Honey. There always seems to be a trade off somewhere. Thank you for your review.
Thank you! I think you’ve hit the nail on the head - there is indeed always a trade off - I’ve since got a Firebox Nano stove - a super little pocket rocket! 👍
I think I like the Firebox Stowe Only reason is arthritis and moving small parts and putting stuff together like I saw you do it looked too hard There when the cold or rain or being really tired Thanks good video
Great video as always, thanks for making this Simon. It's made it much clearer and has given me a better understanding of the 2 stoves.
HI Simon, another great video thank you, very thorough. I've bought the Firebox stove also, very heavy compared to some as you say however I'm happy to put up with that with it being so easy to assemble and use. Cheers..Paul
thanks for showing how to make adjustments including the use of the ash tray
Great video, demo, clarity, audio, visual, prospective. 👍👍
You are a very good in your explanations. You say clear and calm. Very good videos. Congratulations. Flavio From Brazil
Thank you Flavio!
Great video once again. I have both these stoves and have been known to carry both if I'm doing a big cook up.
I agree the Honey is fiddly when it's cold and wet to assemble.
I would suggest for both that you try the Swedish candle method, this gives you a good long burn time.
Also worth a look is the Firebox Nano stove.
Keep the videos coming and thanks for taking the time to make them.
+Johnnys_bushcraft - Hi Johnny, thanks for watching. I'll have to try the Swedish candle, I saw a demo on one of the Firebox videos, but haven't tried it yet, always just used twigs, but yes, a constant feeding is necessary! I suspect I may too use both on occasions, I won't notice the honey stove next to the kilo of Firebox!! Hehehe! Atb, Simon.
Just found your channel, good stuff! I have the Firebox nano ti, among other stoves, and I have to say, I think it would replace your honey stove for what you want. No faffing about, and very light weight. Also, the Swedish fire is really the way to go with these stoves. Totally changes the dynamic and the burn time is fantastic.
+SLG1911 - Hi and thanks for watching! I've seen the nano, it looks a good stove! I'll have to have a go at the Swedish candle, haven't tried that method before, but if it stops me constantly feeding twigs into it, must be a good thing! Thanks!! Atb, Simon.
you have opened eyes I thought that these were all just toys and not of much use to seriously but they seem to be great quality
I bought a honey stove 5 years ago based largely on this video. I love it. I expect it will last another 10 and I use it all the time. Unfortunately they have stopped producing them.
Thank you so much for the excellent review of these two wonderful stoves. Well done!
A great comparison Simon. I have never owned either of these stoves or the Bushbox.....yet, but do have a Lixada Folding Wood Stove (the poor man's version) that works like a dream for me, is very lightweight, robust and cost effective but probably not as versatile as the Firebox. I also have a variant of the wood gas stove (£12) which is also superb when burning twigs, cat litter wood pellets. Thank you for sharing. Paul :)
+-Paul Outdoors - Cheers Paul. They are both good stoves, but to be honest, probably don’t work any better than any of the other twig stoves out there! I’ve heard good reviews of the Lixada, but not used one myself. The firebox is a bit like a dyson vacuum cleaner - has loads of features and bells and whistles, but when it comes down to it, it picks up dust just like a Henry does! I like it though!! Lol! Glad you enjoyed the video! Atb, Simon.
The honey stove is great. Little loops on the top, too. It seems more stable on the ground.
Very nice comparison. You did an excellent job explaining all of the features of both stoves. I have used the Firebox G2 and the Firebox Nano for several years and am very pleased with the robust and flexible nature of both stoves. I have never used a Honey stove, but I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one as a back-up. I am a little late in offering my comments (3 years), but as of now, Firebox offers both models in titanium which answers the weight problem for many bushcrafters. Of course, it is expensive which I think is the major complaint to the Firebox system. But, as you suggest, it is a durable and well made product. But, after watching this video, I might pick up a Honey stove for a lightweight alternative. Thanks for your well done comparison.
Excellent video - Answered a lot of questions for me - I've decided. FireBox it is for me - Cheers
Great video comparison. I do find it kinda funny when people talk about the difference of 700 grams a big weight difference but then I realize that not everyone is military and used to carrying heavy weight. Yeah 700 grams extra weight doesn’t mean much to me. But if you are civilian and really worried about the weight I guess it would be important. I had never even heard of the honey stove. Very cool. Thanks for the info bro
Thanks Conrad, good point well made my friend. 700 grams isn’t much really, you just really notice the difference when you have one in each hand. I guess it depends what your doing, a lot of people out there like to go uberlightweight, where every gram counts - but I think there is a trade-off - the lightweight gear is usually a bit too fragile for my uses - I like tough gear that’ll take the knocks and last, and that usually means a bit more weight! Thanks for watching, Atb, Simon.
I like the versatility of fuel choices with each of these stoves. When the apocalypse hits and there's no more propane or fuel tabs one can always use wood.
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I bought my folding firebox a few weeks ago - who knows I may even get to use it soon!
Great review. Both are versatile. I’m leaning toward the Honey Stove. The weight and price factors made the difference for me. Thank you!
Was making coffee and cooking a bit to eat , on my way home from 2 dr appointments, at a roadside park , I picked up a few hickory nuts , and noticed they were old and cracked , I put maybe 5 or 6 in my fireboxstove , talk about a hot fire ! I bought a smaller pressure cooking pot , cant wait to cook mixed beans with bacon on my fireboxstove after it burns down , ive a big aochol burner with a windbreak-pot stand to slow cook
Great video. I heard from backpacking light that you could use a old small shoe polish lid to fit in the trangia fitting for using solid fuels
I personally use the lixada fire stove but as you mentioned about the weight of firebox,lixada is also very heavy.I believe tha every stove i almost the same and work the same but its everyones personal choise of what are they going to use.Great video as always Simon!!
First time seeing the Honey Stove. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.
+LoaferXcursions - it's a great little stove! You can get an extension kit called the hive, which adds two more side panels - good for when you need to cook for additional people or use as a small fire pit. Thanks for watching! Atb, Simon.
We have both the Fire box and the honey putting the honey together is a nightmare in my opinion the metal warps we used it for many years then found Steve with Firebox and wow bought all the 'bits and bobs" or bells and whistles and just love it yes it weighs more than the honey but is built better and you can buy in TI also we own the Nano that too can be in TI so weight is not an issue JUST LOVE THEM work great and our firebox stoves have never failed us
Thanks Sarah! I agree, the Honey is fiddly to assemble, but I still like it - there is something about the simplicity of it! As for the warping, mine has done the same, but doesn’t effect how it works, as the metal is so thin, it bends flat as you assemble. I do love the Firebox stove, didn’t know they they did the big one in Ti, I’ll have to take a look - the nano is on my Christmas list though hahaha! Cheers, Simon
Thanks for the video.
I am looking for some kind of wood burning stove at the moment. Having limited use of one hand, your description of the Honey stove and its fiddly bits has convinced me that it's probably not for me! 😉
Firebox does a smaller, lighter version called the Nano - might be worth a look to - also the big firebox is now available in titanium (for an eyewateringly high price tag!) 👍🔥
I have a few stoves myself.. I do not own the Honey Stove, however. Enjoyed the comparison. I announced the release for the Gen 2 Firebox when it was in PreProduction. I enjoyed the presentation. Take care.
Shane
Cheers Shane - really like my Firebox - it’s my main stove stove now - really versatile and easy to use - the honey has been demoted to back/up lightweight stove (until I get a nano that is! 😉)
great comparison of like stoves
The honey stove is so darn cute
Great vid mate, Honey Stove it is, I'm for reducing weight as much as poss, so I'm sold. Cheers.
Great stove Darren, light, simple and versatile! Atb, Simon
I've got the Firebox Nano titanium with a Trangia and it's the best, most versatile backcountry stove I've ever owned. No grilling option, of course, but unbelievably lightweight, well built, and powerful.
Gordon Lamb - Cheers Gordon - I really like the look of the nano, It would make a good replacement for my honey stove I think- how good is it with wood? Can you get enough in for a decent burn? Cheers, Simon.
Oh for sure. I tend to solo, but it's enough for two people. I use a pot with a flux ring and with oak twigs it boils 1L of water faster than the trangia with 95% ethanaol. Pain to clean the soot off said flux ring afterwards, of course. :)
The only time I bring an isobutane stove these days is, ironically, in the winter when I use it to heat the tent for a couple minutes first thing in the morning (and to make that first cup of coffee).
Gordon Lamb - Thanks mate, It’s sounding better all the time! Like you, I’m way too impatient for my first hot drink in the morning to bother with wood - my Trangia burner usually earns it place then!! Thanks for getting back to me - appreciate it. Atb, Simon.
Good video I love my firebox stove. I use charcoal, Swedish fire stove method or wood pellets as well
Lee Burwood - Thanks Lee, glad you liked it! I’ve used the Swedish torch in it a few times - good long burn with minimum fuel, but I haven’t used wood pellets - I’ll have to give that a go! Cheers, Simon.
Simon, a bloke in the woods the pellets I use are just the cat litter ones. ( which are the same as the bio mass boilers ) if you are handy with diy I’ve made my own plate to go inside and a carbon copy as well of the extended grill. I know it’s heavy but it’s built to last. Also if you don’t use it for a while I wipe mine with a little olive oil because it doesn’t go off
Lee Burwood - I’ll pick some up from the pet store then! Thanks, and that’s a useful tip with the olive oil - Cheers! 👍
Fantastic. Will try that firebox in my 4wd camper. Great for boiling water or a small snack.
Cheers! I’d be cautious using it ‘in’ your van - it gets really hot and as with using any open flame carbon monoxide will be a real issue. Better and safer to use outside your van! Atb, Simon.
Sorry I didn't mean inside my van. I will only cook outside. I have ready ordered my kit. I'll use it as a backup if I run out of butane in my single burner cooker.
Moon Buggy - My misunderstanding - apologies! Great stove the Firebox - you won’t be disappointed! Atb.
Moon Buggy - just spotted that your van is a Mitsubishi Delica! Great vans - I used to own one - a white 1990 2.5 tdi, I converted mine into a camper too! Had many great adventures in that wagon!
Simon, a bloke in the woods. Yes mine is a 2002 v6. Just got back from a 2 week roadtrip. She went so well. Very good 4wd.
Great video! for me Firebox is the best, very straight forward & sturdy. Doesn't produce much smokes as we can see in video,because it has very good flow of air on it. Thanks for sharing Simon!
Sinon.... just stumbled across your channel. Excellent video, review and compairison!! Nice job. Very impressive!!
Thank you! Glad you found the channel! Both really good stoves. Atb, Simon.
Well done Simon good review. Honey box too fiddly, Firebox solid packs down easily, seems more versatile, weight not an issue, cost, well a bit steep for all the bits and bobs but a winner for me!
Not sure about the honey stove but the firebox works brilliant with a small Swedish fire torch and eliminates the constant feeding great video stay safe
Cheers John - yes, works well in the Honey stove too. Definitely beats constant feeding! Atb, Simon
i'm liking your old honey stove
Thanks for a video Simon👍
Great video. Firebox also makes the Nano Stove which is smaller and lighter and it now comes in Titanium if you want it even lighter.
I used to spend a lot of time climbing mountains and it taught me to prefer gear that you can use with minimum thought so that if you are cold and confused you can still function, the honey stove would be too much hassle for my mind but I have watched your more modern posts where you use the fire box, it really looks good and is on my buying list, but I have yet to find the exact model on the net [g2-5] I think. but it really is a fantastic piece of kit.
Yes, the Honey is a bit fiddlier to assemble, but it’s nice and light and, having no moving parts, is really simple - the Firebox is amazing though! A titanium version would be the perfect stove I think! Cheers, Simon.
Another great video Simon, I have had a Honey stove for some years and love it great comparison though
+Craig Mountford - Cheers Craig, great stove, the Honey, my new Firebox isn't a replacement for it, just an addition to! I have a bit of a stove fetish! Difficult to beat the simplicity of the Honey stove, and super lightweight too. Atb, Simon.
Re visiting this, if you Watch Steve of FireBox stoves, he also burns logs literally in the FireBox in different ways. 👍🏻
If your wood grain is straight enough you can split a smallish log into 4 quarters or 4 thick sticks and use it like a swedish fire torch. It's efficient enough to burn for hours, several litres worth of water without any constaly maintenance.
Simon, check out the Firebox Nano in titanium. It’s functionality is similar to the Honey Stove, without the drawback of having to assemble.
Thanks buddy! Since making this video I was bought a nano - great stove - love it! still not getting rid of my honey stove though! 😁
Enjoyed the video. Look forward to more camping information.
Thanks Linda! Atb, Simon
No brainer for speed of assembly firebox.
Good vid.
Fire box all the way.
I've had a firebox for years now they are great stoves
+Martin Outdoors69 - I’m still getting to grips with mine really, but I like it. Even to the extent I’m happy to live with the extra weight over my super ultra light honey stove! I’m going to do some videos on the firebox in the future. 👍
Excellent reviews. I think they both look like good stoves. Firebox makes 4 different sized stoves like the one you have there. I believe Firebox also makes 1 or 2 stoves that are shaped differently plus some of theirs stoves have the option of being made of titanium to make them lighter weight. I would really like to have one of these stoves and am jealous cause you have two of them lol Thanks for sharing.
I was gone for a while (visiting family, backpacking & camping) but I am back now and have recently added some more videos to my channel. I am looking forward to seeing more of your videos as well. keep up the good work.
+North Country Adventures - Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! I didn't know Firebox made so many different stoves, I thought there were only the two! Titanium would definitely help with the weight! I look forward to watching some of your videos! Atb and thanks for the kind words, Simon.
Hey Simon, I got it wrong. It is the Bushbox by Bushcraft Essentials that has all of these stoves I was referring to. They have (from largest to smallest) the XL Bushbox, LF Bushbox, Bushbox & Micro Bushbox. The XL, LF & Bushbox are available in Titanium too. They are all very similar to the Firebox you show here. They also make a three sided model called the Bushbox ultra light pocket stove which weighs 60g (2.15 oz.). I will leave a link where you can check them out below. Sorry for any confusion. www.bushcraft-essentials.com/english/outdoor-stoves.html
North Country Adventures - the bushbox stoves do look good, never used one, but look like they'd be good! Thanks for the info! 👍
I appreciate your stove obsession. :)
Great video thank you Simon 😊
Thanks for the video mate. Had the gen 1 firebox for a few years naw and it's never let me down enjoy. didn't now about the 4 side trangia honey stove method chears for that.
Cheers Daniel, thanks for watching! They are great stoves aren’t they - I’ve got on really well with mine - I hardly use the honey now - I’ll keep it for ultra light trips, the firebox is just so much easier- must be getting lazy as I get older!! Lol! Atb, Simon.
I have the Firebox Stove first Generation I guess. I drove with my KLR650 from Vancouver Island to Alaska, the Yukon and allover Europe, the Swiss, Italien, Austrian Alps and I used always this Stove. I've got the larger Top Grill Plate as well and an Aluminum Windprotection Shield as well as a Trangia Bronze cooker in case that I cannot find firewood or there are Fire-bans. In short, this is the best stove I ever came across, if you have to carry it yourselves and space, weight, quality, versatility and the ability to burn with little wood, is an issue. Watching the 2nd Generation, I must admit, that this is even better. But let me tell you about it's limitations. When cooking, on the Generation 1, there is a much larger opening on the front as with the 2nd Generation. Still, I am constantly feeding it with as large as possible firewood, because it burns the devil so fast, hot and crazy, that will have real trouble keeping the fire going, if you cannot find hardwood to process. Most wood found easily are always fast burning ones and with these you have to feed constantly or the fire will diminish. It burns so good, that there is not even ashes around after you finished. Filling it from the top is very difficult if you have a pan or something already sitting on top. With the Generation 2, where I saw that you can turn the top Left and Right Plate, that is so much better because it allows you, to slide longer pieces of wood already in an angle into the fire. Again, keep sticks as long as possible and as thich as possible, that way you don't have to feed the fire so crazily. In Bad weather I use the Trangia which fits in Gen.1 and Gen2 just greatly. Another great Plus is, that now the iron Sticks are not straiht but curved. I made hundred over hundereds of fires and cooked in all conditions all year round. Being in the Special Forces, I want to be able to cook without having Grocerie Stores nearby but can use small sticks and such to heat, eat and survive. Specifically in times like these. GREAT PRODUCT BECAME EVEN BETTER. I will buy again.
the difficulty in assembling the Honey Stove with cold hands or when hungry is its main flaw. Very light is great. I think I over rated it a bit because of that in my videos now
I agree that the fiddly nature of the stove its downside, however, the lack of moving parts can also be seen as a positive - simple and nothing to wear and fail. Atb, Simon.
the small part is easy to put up, square, but when you go up to the Hive Stove its very tough to put together, and the Honey Stove is hard too. Its a camping stove therefore, not really a survival stove, and the makers dont claim it to be, as I contacted them to ask
Very good review on both. Great pros and cons.
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO ,I HAVE BOTH STOVES BUT I HAVE NOT USED THEM YET CAN,T WAIT LOL.I LIKE MAKING THEM OUT OF ANYTHING I CAN FIND IT,S A BLAST PEACE OUT FROM NOVA SCOTIA CANADA
Nice review Simon. I own a firebox,
very heavy like you said. I’m going to buy that 5 sided stick stove you had.
It is so much lighter I have to at least try it. Huge weight difference like you said.
Cheers Gregory, yes, it is much lighter and simple too - nothing to fail. There are other lightweight twig stoves, but I do like the Honey stove. Atb, Simon.
Great comparison video... both good options with different pros and cons... I’ve had an eye on the Firebox but must admit that I do appreciate the very minimalist Honey Stove... guess I need both... lol
Definitely! 😂😂😂
My stick stove is a bushcraft essentials. 5inch and made in germany.its hinged,so it pops open much easier then assembly.flattens out in a bag as you have
Mr. Simon... I love watching your videos, they are simple and to the point yet full of valuable info for those of us who are willing to learn from others.
I really enjoyed this video, very helpful indeed.
BTW: do you have a channel on cabinet making? I recall you mentioning that is your profession, I too am a woodworker by trade. However I just do the drafting and engineering part of woodworking now as I closed my Cabinet Shop down a few years ago.
Again sir, I love watching your videos, keep up the good work !!!
I like the older easier to carry honey one. I know it is not so cool for cold hands but i love the simpleness of it. easier to use all the way around.
It is simple and works really well, I have and always will be a big fan of the honey stove. The fact it doesn’t weigh anything is the cherry on the cake! Thanks for watching! Atb, Simon.
Jacob Padilla :
Simon merely pointed out the strengths and versatility of both items in a fair side by side comparison
If you wish to go ultralight go with one model ....
If you can manage the weight .... go with the other one
Well done video and very enjoyable as well. I have been working diligently and being very selective on purchasing gear that gives me what I need and keeps the weight down. I like both of these stoves but the 2.2 pounds (1kg) Firebox is rather heavy. The Honey Stove fits the bill for me. Normally, when it's winter here the fire bans are lifted so I would make a campfire...love winter camping. I have an inexpensive Lixada wood burning stove, well, two of them actually just different configurations. Both are super lightweight and I often use a trangia stove with them for cooking only. I burn wood for the "comfort effect" or when grilling a steak. I miss your beautiful country and did most of my camping and fishing in the Norfolk Broads and in Scotland.
Thanks Alexander! The Firebox is a lump that’s for sure, but a lovely stove to use, but yes, if weight is a priority, the Honey is a great stove! I’d say I use it equally as much as my Firebox. Incidentally there is a enlargement kit for the Honey stove, called the hive, which adds two more sides making it a decent sized compact fire pit! I too am a big fan of the Trangia burner! 🔥 Atb, Simon.