Luv your channel but could not disagree with you more on the OPC mis-cut debate. When you are paying over $200 US for Platinum and 3/4 are miss-cut/off-center/scratched, that is NOT good for the hobby
John, I understand the prevailing opinion. But the OPC brand has had miscut cards for - literally - 90 years. And, it was always charming until the secondary market popped, which is ostentatiousness from my standpoint. Distributors set prices, not UD. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head to buy OPCP, or re-buy into expensive group breaks for an adrenaline rush. No one is forcing ppl to create demand-driven middle men and multipliers. And, no one is forcing ppl to post OPCP Cole Caufields for irrational list prices of US $10K on eBay. Yet, ppl do. This is a new wax pack era, which happens cyclically in our hobby at its market highs, coinciding with popularity, heightened demand and obsession/speculation. Notably gambling, increasingly independent from odds and card quality. The fact is, we now have some 50 products to choose from. If ppl are uncomfortable with OPCP price points - or the present market forces - they can buy alternatives (whether cheaper UD products, Leaf, or President's Choice). The very reason chromium cards exist today is the hobby evolved away from prior patterns. Taste shifted. Just like it will evolve again tomorrow. I just don't understand the endless griping, and our own inability to assume a modicum of responsibility. In a market economy where private companies purchase licensing agreements, consumers vote with their behaviour. And the little governance that does exist in the hobby, like Beckett grading and price guides, are just another middleman with a vested interest. They too have precipitated the higher prices. So don't speculate, and allow the prices to drop. Or purchase a product with the centering you prefer. But most ppl are paying for the box break high, certainly not the odds and inherent card condition or value, which is divorced from the actual value of a dollar.
@@Fultoncards Thanx for your insight and expertise - I have just recently returned to the hobby after a 25+ year hiatus (got married, had kids, sent them off to college) and I am still learning the state of the hobby/business in 2023. It has changed a LOT! You are absolutely right that we, as consumers, vote with our wallets and for me, even though the one box of OPC Platinum was better than average (hit 2 autos), I'm going to stick with the stuff that gives me pleasure AND maybe a little value in return! Like UD Extended - I have had great luck pulling some awesome cards, like a printing plate, 3D Youg Guns, A Day with The Cup, etc., and I can get 2 boxes of Extended for the price of 1 OPCP... BTW, was up in Brooklyn with my GF a few months ago and had a wonderful time. Stayed is this cool hotel (The Wyeth) and spent a lot of time eating and wandering around DUMBO. Keep up the great work on your channel!!
Do you mean the the Wythe Hotel in Williamsburg? It's a landmark. I remember when they were rebuilding it circa 2008. Welcome back to cards. Interestingly ppl have also mocked Extended to no end because of the tertiary Young Guns class. But, to your point, YGs are not even the nature of the product. The product is an inserts and variants option, with a price that usually falls off a cliff after release. As such, it's one of the best values in the hobby. I think part of the issue is most ppl have shallow pockets. Yet, they get FOMO re. mid and high-end products, so they feel compelled to gamble, including on group breaks, on dismal odds. Thus, that product tier shoots even higher, divorced from value/merit. Yet, these very same ppl won't splurge the same amount on, say, a yearly Center Ice hockey streaming package or new couch (they will have for a decade). When they get burned, they then blast UD. Obviously, the rational thing is to build a collection in a targeted, budgeted manner on eBay, affordably. Otherwise, to enjoy breaks, ppl must remain in their tier and tax bracket. But, like everything related to money, based on all the nonsense on social media, ppl think there is a trick to these penny stocks. There isn't. Work hard, invest in actual investments or real estate, and budget from your entertainment budget in the hockey card tier that suits you, i.e. primarily low-end, except on a rare occasion like a seasonal sale or a birthday. This is why I hate discussing card value. It gives the wrong impression. I'm much more interested in the other side of the ledger: actual sunk costs. Valuable cards are heavy outliers, statistically speaking relative to box prices, or group break multiple re-buys. So that's my two cents.
Another sweet rip , I like these crazy inserts in Synergy even though there isn't much value in them, I just like them. Ordered 2 boxes of 21-22 Synergy ($99 CAD) and a hobby box of Skybox for $129 , local card store had some decent sales on.
Would def love to take that Pius Suter Off your hands brother! Have over 30 Suter autos even though it looks like he’s not signing with the Wings again, but sick video again! Always love your insight on a product!
Nice die cut ink. I always loved the look of this stuff and big time variety. Also find it cool that the base is the hardest part to find. I have yet to rip into this stuff but one day I will. I actually shockingly worked out a multi part deal to make it possible to capitalize on a sale I saw in Germany for a box of 2022 spa. You won't believe it but it was going for 144 euros which is lower than I've ever seen anywhere. Sold a box of over a thousand multi sport and non sport base cards for what he offered(60 euros) and then a few 10 euro cards. All in all I end up paying 44 euros for the box lol. The only time I will ever get a chance like that. It will be an honor to rip into something like that on my budget, stress free.
It must be like pulling teeth trying to partake in Europe. If I order a release day product from Steel City, it usually arrives on release day by 7pm, even if I go with their free UPS shipping.
@Fultoncards Yup, that's a big time understatement. I made the choice to come here for my lady so it is my own doing lol. Cards are the least of the hurdles here though!
I think the bigger concern compared to the centering is that these may be nothing more than packs of bricks in a few month's time. They seem to be sticky already.
Sweet looking ink rink! I think the thing with OPC of the past is that it didn't cost 250 CAD. At that price point they have to do a little better, especially with the inserts and parallels. #dryden
Great box and a fine looking auto! I'm peronally not the biggest fan of Synergy but I think they nailed some of the designs this year, Rink Ink is excellent👍 #dryden
Feels like yesterday 21-22 Synergy was just released. Also feels like it's a re release of the same product 😂. Still like the look of the cards and the price isnt as bad. Very cool auto. Thatd be a sick set to collect. Not sure if I'll get any of this product but if I do I'll wait till the price drops. #dryden
I love the variance created by miscut cards; great tactic for card companies to increase demand for base cards, given that some are then technically better than others! And obviously this is why grading exists in the first place: for all the vintage cards where this variance exists. To me, grading of modern cards makes no sense at all whatsoever. Hey maybe UD and PSA are in on this together to create demand for grading these new OPC miscut cards lol
Here’s my two cents. I don’t particularly have a problem with miscut base cards, especially if they are from a product with a history of miscut cards like OPC. However, I do have a problem with miscut and malcentered cards when they are numbered cards/autos/mem cards because those cards are already tougher to hit and are the main draw to a product. To me, numbering and groupings should mean something so having those cards miscut and badly centered (especially if it is being done on purpose like you mention in the video) in products like OPC and OPCP ruins the integrity of the numbering and grouping statistics. Why number a card out of /399 if only half of them will be be decently centered? Personally, instead of UD inflating card numberings with more and more high numbered parallels while having so many of them badly centered, I would prefer if these types of cards had lower numberings and good quality control. The other issue I have with the idea that UD is doing this on purpose is that it is a dishonest business practice to me. To my knowledge, there is no disclaimer on the box that says cards may be miscut or badly centered. I think that is part of the problem people have with quality control; they simply did not expect that level of quality upon purchase. Yes the secondary market and middle men as well as supply and demand all play their part but I really believe it comes down to what people expect when they buy the product. In what other consumer product do you expect less than perfection? Why should sports cards (the ones that sell the product like numbered cards and hits) be any different? At least, if UD are doing it purpose, let the consumer know before they purchase. As always, another great video!
Well stated. I just meant that UD is well aware of their corporately agreed (and justified) printing and cutting parameters. I personally don't know of too many things we covet, speculate on, and flip completely divorced from the value of a dollar. But historically art, stamps/coins and penny stocks come to mind. Art is in the eye of the beholder. In fact, I recently read a banana duct-taped to a wall not only sold for $120,000, but it was eaten by student. No idea of the banana's "condition." Stamps or coins (not only currency) have ranged in condition over time, but obviously mint "mint" is more valued. And, well, penny stocks may be shell companies. They often have terrible fundamentals. But, that doesn't mean they won't go viral on Reddit or Robinhood, and go parabolic before correcting. They do. Those who get killed on penny stocks can blame the companies for being shells with no cash flow. But such adrenaline junkies are better off learning their own lesson and putting their hard-earned money in established blue chip stocks or proven startups, as lower risk translates to greater reward (due to less volatility and uncertainty). Why were they in these stocks? I personally like that cards are miscut. It means that even with UD overprinting rookie parallels and inserts a-la Lindros redux, still only a narrow subset of perfect cards will be valued. Otherwise, OPCP rookies become just like mass printed Young Guns, in this new wax pack era. The art and tactile human element is lost. Cards are clones. With different grading, a broader range of collectors can land cards on the secondary market, with tiered as opposed to binary price options. ...In any event, we vote with our behaviour and pocketbook. At present ppl aren't spending based on the cards, i.e. box outcomes which we do not control. They are spending on the box break and gambling experience, which precipitates the indefensible box prices.
Well said. Although the coins and stamps are an interesting topic as well. I would argue that like sports cards both can be traded and condition does affect value however, unlike sportscards, some of the most valuable stamps or coins are the ones with the errors in/on them. Why are errors in one sought after and not in the other? Surely grading companies could be blamed but even error coins and stamps are graded before fetching high secondary market prices. Could it be that errors in coins and stamps are “real” errors, errors that occurred for short periods of time and print runs because someone noticed and cared enough to stop the error, while the errors we are currently seeing in UD sportscards are going unchecked and are, in and of themselves, being overproduced? Surely there can be no novelty in a miscut card if the majority of that cards print run are miscut. All this to say, there seems to have been a point where sportscards diverged from other collectibles and have led consumers to desire perfection in the products they buy and the secondary market. Putting all the market influences and middlemen aside, it just seems odd to me and I guess others that something we buy seems to have less quality control than currency and postage, both of which are not marketed as consumer products. A pleasure discussing the hobby with you as always!
To your point, I assume there is a huge difference between mass printed errors in coins with no demand and a specificity or commemorative coin that is highly sought, due to important storylines (e.g. a war interfering with production). I'm sure it's true too for ppl who collect, say, the original Super Mario games, which go upwards of $5,000. An initial run or factory test cartridge with glitches would be more valuable than the later mass produced releases. Like, Bobby Orr has always had miscut original test sheet rookie cards in circulation. Nice chatting with you as well.
These are nice looking cards, going to check out the singles market. Sweet Rink Ink. OPC could improve their quality control and I would appreciate that. I prefer a centered card over sharp corners. #Dryden
IMO, the miscuts aren’t good, they’re indicative of the machines moving too fast to print as much as possible as quickly as possible, while there is the collectibility factor of cards having a uniqueness to them being miscut, they aren’t charging the rates they did historically, if the product was priced similarly to historical OPC I wouldn’t be bothered but this is now a premium priced product They are not doing quality control not because old time collectors enjoy the historical retroness, it’s because it doesn’t cost them anything My biggest gripe isn’t the “miscut” it’s the misalignment on many front to backs
Fair. Well also, $200 in the early to mid-1970s was about $30. And, I remember those boxes being 48 packs. So, you're right that cards are now six times more expensive, i.e. 65c per pack instead of, say, 10c or 15c. But, back then hockey wasn't a global sport whereby 25-year-olds on Wall Street or in Hong Kong could flip cards on eBay, as entertainment. There's double the amount of NHL teams now, and rinks all over the globe. Card technology is much more sophisticated. Cards used to be in corner stores. Now, there are premiums because of distributors (globally), LCS, group breakers, eBay bidding and eBay fees, exorbitant licensing agreements and player signings, etc. Once we cut all that out, and spike demand and speculation, cards do become comparable to the 1970s. Given the dozens of other products on the market, buy other products and wait for OPCP to come down, notably during a seasonal sale. Maybe they will even alter their printing parameters. But that's not the nature of this gaming culture. The nature of it is Makar and Kirill are already yesterday's news, just like Hedman (the best D of his generation) is. And ppl have FOMO about the flagship OPCP rainbow of Caufield even though he only has 53 career goals, because they are told OPCP and SPA are all that matter. They missed out on the McD rainbow and FWA, and the pandemic spike (even though those cards were exorbitant by 2015 market standards). Still, there must be a trick to these penny stocks. Even though they can't afford (and refuse to buy) the NHL Center Ice streaming package, they'll pay five times that on boxes and breaks in a single week, divorced from the odds and card values (or conditions). Then they will point fingers. To me at least, that's like sitting down at a poker table and complaining about the cards. Playing well has zero to do with the cards. We don't control cards or UD. We control what we control. If we feel the dealer sucks, sit at a different table. Bet less, play less hands, do more homework, hone your method. Grind away.
Paul, you'll find this funny (or depressing). Guess who had Lafleur in that Leaf Art of Hockey break #29. I also had Robinson. So, the one random that Lafleur lost went to me anyway.
@@Fultoncards No way LOL you beat me on the Lafleur bid and happy that it went to you nevertheless. Better in the hands of a Habs fan than a Leaf fan. Love the Habs their history and the only other team I usually watch in person. I may have said someone has Lafleur Mojo in the chat (using your term). Too funny that it was you!
If you have worked in any plant, or been a statistical and accountability consultant as I have, there are always quality control parameters. There are levers from human and machinery capital, to training, to how data is used, to strategy. That's why some caps on Tropicana orange juice are tighter than others, and some bottles have a bit more sugar (unnoticed to the public). It is all rooted in how a company is managed.
I think the collectors and hobbyists, by and large, are ok with the human element to cutting and quality. But the market these days is driven by the investors/gamblers/flippers and, understandably with their priorities, anything less than a 10 is worthless. Premium profit or bust. #dryden
Luv your channel but could not disagree with you more on the OPC mis-cut debate. When you are paying over $200 US for Platinum and 3/4 are miss-cut/off-center/scratched, that is NOT good for the hobby
John, I understand the prevailing opinion. But the OPC brand has had miscut cards for - literally - 90 years. And, it was always charming until the secondary market popped, which is ostentatiousness from my standpoint. Distributors set prices, not UD. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head to buy OPCP, or re-buy into expensive group breaks for an adrenaline rush. No one is forcing ppl to create demand-driven middle men and multipliers. And, no one is forcing ppl to post OPCP Cole Caufields for irrational list prices of US $10K on eBay. Yet, ppl do. This is a new wax pack era, which happens cyclically in our hobby at its market highs, coinciding with popularity, heightened demand and obsession/speculation. Notably gambling, increasingly independent from odds and card quality.
The fact is, we now have some 50 products to choose from. If ppl are uncomfortable with OPCP price points - or the present market forces - they can buy alternatives (whether cheaper UD products, Leaf, or President's Choice). The very reason chromium cards exist today is the hobby evolved away from prior patterns. Taste shifted. Just like it will evolve again tomorrow. I just don't understand the endless griping, and our own inability to assume a modicum of responsibility. In a market economy where private companies purchase licensing agreements, consumers vote with their behaviour. And the little governance that does exist in the hobby, like Beckett grading and price guides, are just another middleman with a vested interest. They too have precipitated the higher prices. So don't speculate, and allow the prices to drop. Or purchase a product with the centering you prefer. But most ppl are paying for the box break high, certainly not the odds and inherent card condition or value, which is divorced from the actual value of a dollar.
@@Fultoncards Thanx for your insight and expertise - I have just recently returned to the hobby after a 25+ year hiatus (got married, had kids, sent them off to college) and I am still learning the state of the hobby/business in 2023. It has changed a LOT!
You are absolutely right that we, as consumers, vote with our wallets and for me, even though the one box of OPC Platinum was better than average (hit 2 autos), I'm going to stick with the stuff that gives me pleasure AND maybe a little value in return! Like UD Extended - I have had great luck pulling some awesome cards, like a printing plate, 3D Youg Guns, A Day with The Cup, etc., and I can get 2 boxes of Extended for the price of 1 OPCP...
BTW, was up in Brooklyn with my GF a few months ago and had a wonderful time. Stayed is this cool hotel (The Wyeth) and spent a lot of time eating and wandering around DUMBO.
Keep up the great work on your channel!!
Do you mean the the Wythe Hotel in Williamsburg? It's a landmark. I remember when they were rebuilding it circa 2008.
Welcome back to cards. Interestingly ppl have also mocked Extended to no end because of the tertiary Young Guns class. But, to your point, YGs are not even the nature of the product. The product is an inserts and variants option, with a price that usually falls off a cliff after release. As such, it's one of the best values in the hobby. I think part of the issue is most ppl have shallow pockets. Yet, they get FOMO re. mid and high-end products, so they feel compelled to gamble, including on group breaks, on dismal odds. Thus, that product tier shoots even higher, divorced from value/merit. Yet, these very same ppl won't splurge the same amount on, say, a yearly Center Ice hockey streaming package or new couch (they will have for a decade). When they get burned, they then blast UD. Obviously, the rational thing is to build a collection in a targeted, budgeted manner on eBay, affordably. Otherwise, to enjoy breaks, ppl must remain in their tier and tax bracket. But, like everything related to money, based on all the nonsense on social media, ppl think there is a trick to these penny stocks. There isn't. Work hard, invest in actual investments or real estate, and budget from your entertainment budget in the hockey card tier that suits you, i.e. primarily low-end, except on a rare occasion like a seasonal sale or a birthday. This is why I hate discussing card value. It gives the wrong impression. I'm much more interested in the other side of the ledger: actual sunk costs. Valuable cards are heavy outliers, statistically speaking relative to box prices, or group break multiple re-buys. So that's my two cents.
Another sweet rip , I like these crazy inserts in Synergy even though there isn't much value in them, I just like them. Ordered 2 boxes of 21-22 Synergy ($99 CAD) and a hobby box of Skybox for $129 , local card store had some decent sales on.
Would def love to take that Pius Suter Off your hands brother! Have over 30 Suter autos even though it looks like he’s not signing with the Wings again, but sick video again! Always love your insight on a product!
Nice die cut ink. I always loved the look of this stuff and big time variety. Also find it cool that the base is the hardest part to find. I have yet to rip into this stuff but one day I will. I actually shockingly worked out a multi part deal to make it possible to capitalize on a sale I saw in Germany for a box of 2022 spa. You won't believe it but it was going for 144 euros which is lower than I've ever seen anywhere. Sold a box of over a thousand multi sport and non sport base cards for what he offered(60 euros) and then a few 10 euro cards. All in all I end up paying 44 euros for the box lol. The only time I will ever get a chance like that. It will be an honor to rip into something like that on my budget, stress free.
It must be like pulling teeth trying to partake in Europe. If I order a release day product from Steel City, it usually arrives on release day by 7pm, even if I go with their free UPS shipping.
@Fultoncards Yup, that's a big time understatement. I made the choice to come here for my lady so it is my own doing lol. Cards are the least of the hurdles here though!
I think the bigger concern compared to the centering is that these may be nothing more than packs of bricks in a few month's time. They seem to be sticky already.
Sweet looking ink rink! I think the thing with OPC of the past is that it didn't cost 250 CAD. At that price point they have to do a little better, especially with the inserts and parallels. #dryden
the Brett Hull is on its way, love your channel. I'm addicted to the Legends breaks.😂
Great box and a fine looking auto! I'm peronally not the biggest fan of Synergy but I think they nailed some of the designs this year, Rink Ink is excellent👍 #dryden
That’s a nice looking Design for the Auto card❤
Light Up The Night cards are really cool.
I've always liked Synergy Card's 👍
Nicely done brother! Enjoy! #dryden love the positivity! Keep it up!
Agreed on OPC cuts, the chase for perfection is the fun that a lot of people can't afford it seems....would they prefer to just buy the graded 10's?!?
Fantastic and nice break
I agree with your opc comment
#Dryden another awesome video my friend. Keep rocking the great videos
Awesome auto and Shane Wright. Nice looking cards. #Dryden
Feels like yesterday 21-22 Synergy was just released. Also feels like it's a re release of the same product 😂. Still like the look of the cards and the price isnt as bad. Very cool auto. Thatd be a sick set to collect. Not sure if I'll get any of this product but if I do I'll wait till the price drops. #dryden
I love the variance created by miscut cards; great tactic for card companies to increase demand for base cards, given that some are then technically better than others! And obviously this is why grading exists in the first place: for all the vintage cards where this variance exists. To me, grading of modern cards makes no sense at all whatsoever. Hey maybe UD and PSA are in on this together to create demand for grading these new OPC miscut cards lol
I agree with you on the take on OPC Platinum, nice to hit an auto out of this box #dryden
Here’s my two cents. I don’t particularly have a problem with miscut base cards, especially if they are from a product with a history of miscut cards like OPC. However, I do have a problem with miscut and malcentered cards when they are numbered cards/autos/mem cards because those cards are already tougher to hit and are the main draw to a product. To me, numbering and groupings should mean something so having those cards miscut and badly centered (especially if it is being done on purpose like you mention in the video) in products like OPC and OPCP ruins the integrity of the numbering and grouping statistics. Why number a card out of /399 if only half of them will be be decently centered? Personally, instead of UD inflating card numberings with more and more high numbered parallels while having so many of them badly centered, I would prefer if these types of cards had lower numberings and good quality control. The other issue I have with the idea that UD is doing this on purpose is that it is a dishonest business practice to me. To my knowledge, there is no disclaimer on the box that says cards may be miscut or badly centered. I think that is part of the problem people have with quality control; they simply did not expect that level of quality upon purchase. Yes the secondary market and middle men as well as supply and demand all play their part but I really believe it comes down to what people expect when they buy the product. In what other consumer product do you expect less than perfection? Why should sports cards (the ones that sell the product like numbered cards and hits) be any different? At least, if UD are doing it purpose, let the consumer know before they purchase. As always, another great video!
Well stated. I just meant that UD is well aware of their corporately agreed (and justified) printing and cutting parameters. I personally don't know of too many things we covet, speculate on, and flip completely divorced from the value of a dollar. But historically art, stamps/coins and penny stocks come to mind. Art is in the eye of the beholder. In fact, I recently read a banana duct-taped to a wall not only sold for $120,000, but it was eaten by student. No idea of the banana's "condition." Stamps or coins (not only currency) have ranged in condition over time, but obviously mint "mint" is more valued. And, well, penny stocks may be shell companies. They often have terrible fundamentals. But, that doesn't mean they won't go viral on Reddit or Robinhood, and go parabolic before correcting. They do. Those who get killed on penny stocks can blame the companies for being shells with no cash flow. But such adrenaline junkies are better off learning their own lesson and putting their hard-earned money in established blue chip stocks or proven startups, as lower risk translates to greater reward (due to less volatility and uncertainty). Why were they in these stocks?
I personally like that cards are miscut. It means that even with UD overprinting rookie parallels and inserts a-la Lindros redux, still only a narrow subset of perfect cards will be valued. Otherwise, OPCP rookies become just like mass printed Young Guns, in this new wax pack era. The art and tactile human element is lost. Cards are clones. With different grading, a broader range of collectors can land cards on the secondary market, with tiered as opposed to binary price options. ...In any event, we vote with our behaviour and pocketbook. At present ppl aren't spending based on the cards, i.e. box outcomes which we do not control. They are spending on the box break and gambling experience, which precipitates the indefensible box prices.
Well said. Although the coins and stamps are an interesting topic as well. I would argue that like sports cards both can be traded and condition does affect value however, unlike sportscards, some of the most valuable stamps or coins are the ones with the errors in/on them. Why are errors in one sought after and not in the other? Surely grading companies could be blamed but even error coins and stamps are graded before fetching high secondary market prices. Could it be that errors in coins and stamps are “real” errors, errors that occurred for short periods of time and print runs because someone noticed and cared enough to stop the error, while the errors we are currently seeing in UD sportscards are going unchecked and are, in and of themselves, being overproduced? Surely there can be no novelty in a miscut card if the majority of that cards print run are miscut. All this to say, there seems to have been a point where sportscards diverged from other collectibles and have led consumers to desire perfection in the products they buy and the secondary market. Putting all the market influences and middlemen aside, it just seems odd to me and I guess others that something we buy seems to have less quality control than currency and postage, both of which are not marketed as consumer products. A pleasure discussing the hobby with you as always!
To your point, I assume there is a huge difference between mass printed errors in coins with no demand and a specificity or commemorative coin that is highly sought, due to important storylines (e.g. a war interfering with production). I'm sure it's true too for ppl who collect, say, the original Super Mario games, which go upwards of $5,000. An initial run or factory test cartridge with glitches would be more valuable than the later mass produced releases. Like, Bobby Orr has always had miscut original test sheet rookie cards in circulation. Nice chatting with you as well.
Nice looking auto
These are nice looking cards, going to check out the singles market. Sweet Rink Ink. OPC could improve their quality control and I would appreciate that. I prefer a centered card over sharp corners. #Dryden
I love those 2030 cards. Nice Rink Ink pull! #Dryden
I'm hunting the duo card of Seider and Lidström. My two favorite defensemen! #DRYDEN
Nice auto, definitely getting a box for my son. #DRYDEN
Very shiny, good if you are lost in the woods #dryden
#Dryden nice rip keep them coming
IMO, the miscuts aren’t good, they’re indicative of the machines moving too fast to print as much as possible as quickly as possible, while there is the collectibility factor of cards having a uniqueness to them being miscut, they aren’t charging the rates they did historically, if the product was priced similarly to historical OPC I wouldn’t be bothered but this is now a premium priced product
They are not doing quality control not because old time collectors enjoy the historical retroness, it’s because it doesn’t cost them anything
My biggest gripe isn’t the “miscut” it’s the misalignment on many front to backs
Fair. Well also, $200 in the early to mid-1970s was about $30. And, I remember those boxes being 48 packs. So, you're right that cards are now six times more expensive, i.e. 65c per pack instead of, say, 10c or 15c. But, back then hockey wasn't a global sport whereby 25-year-olds on Wall Street or in Hong Kong could flip cards on eBay, as entertainment. There's double the amount of NHL teams now, and rinks all over the globe. Card technology is much more sophisticated. Cards used to be in corner stores. Now, there are premiums because of distributors (globally), LCS, group breakers, eBay bidding and eBay fees, exorbitant licensing agreements and player signings, etc. Once we cut all that out, and spike demand and speculation, cards do become comparable to the 1970s.
Given the dozens of other products on the market, buy other products and wait for OPCP to come down, notably during a seasonal sale. Maybe they will even alter their printing parameters. But that's not the nature of this gaming culture. The nature of it is Makar and Kirill are already yesterday's news, just like Hedman (the best D of his generation) is. And ppl have FOMO about the flagship OPCP rainbow of Caufield even though he only has 53 career goals, because they are told OPCP and SPA are all that matter. They missed out on the McD rainbow and FWA, and the pandemic spike (even though those cards were exorbitant by 2015 market standards). Still, there must be a trick to these penny stocks. Even though they can't afford (and refuse to buy) the NHL Center Ice streaming package, they'll pay five times that on boxes and breaks in a single week, divorced from the odds and card values (or conditions). Then they will point fingers. To me at least, that's like sitting down at a poker table and complaining about the cards. Playing well has zero to do with the cards. We don't control cards or UD. We control what we control. If we feel the dealer sucks, sit at a different table. Bet less, play less hands, do more homework, hone your method. Grind away.
@@Fultoncards I agree with all of your points here, the poker analogy is spot on in my opinion
That auto is sick! #dryden
Nice break. Something tells me I will get tired of Synergy pretty quick. #dryden
Paul, you'll find this funny (or depressing). Guess who had Lafleur in that Leaf Art of Hockey break #29. I also had Robinson. So, the one random that Lafleur lost went to me anyway.
@@Fultoncards No way LOL you beat me on the Lafleur bid and happy that it went to you nevertheless. Better in the hands of a Habs fan than a Leaf fan. Love the Habs their history and the only other team I usually watch in person. I may have said someone has Lafleur Mojo in the chat (using your term). Too funny that it was you!
I would wait until synergy falls under $100. It just feels like a bunch of inserts. Nice inserts, but inserts none the less. #Dryden
#Dryden #onemorecase
Ain’t no way you’re saying OPC is mis cutting their cards on purpose 💀
If you have worked in any plant, or been a statistical and accountability consultant as I have, there are always quality control parameters. There are levers from human and machinery capital, to training, to how data is used, to strategy. That's why some caps on Tropicana orange juice are tighter than others, and some bottles have a bit more sugar (unnoticed to the public). It is all rooted in how a company is managed.
I think the collectors and hobbyists, by and large, are ok with the human element to cutting and quality. But the market these days is driven by the investors/gamblers/flippers and, understandably with their priorities, anything less than a 10 is worthless. Premium profit or bust. #dryden
Well said.