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I understand your points, brother. However, we must not ignore what Christ said on the subject. He did say if a man divorces his wife ( except it be for fornication) and marries another, commits adultery. The question is, in a case where there was no adultery and the person is in a new marriage, can that person be free from being in adultery? How far does God tolerate?? Can we as Christians be saved if we are in an unbiblical marriage?? This is a very, very complicated issue. I wish it were simple!
You are correct, complicated and emotional. In my opinion, the “sin” (aside from sexual sin with someone other than your spouse) is in the breaking of the marital vow. So the divorce itself is the sin. Marriage is not considered a sin in the Bible even if it’s a second marriage. Jesus actually says that someone divorces his wife and “marries” another. He doesn’t say ...and goes into an adulterous marriage or goes into a sinful or forbidden marriage! He teaches that a person sins if he breaks his vow (divorce) and marries someone else. He calls this sin “adultery”. Again, the sin takes place in and around his first marriage. The question people want to know is, “Can a person be forgiven for this sin?” I believe that the one that broke the vow and whatever was done leading up to that rupture can be forgiven. I also believe that acknowledging that sin and making a sincere effort not to repeat the behavior or actions that led to that break is the repentance necessary (not forced celibacy or divorcing and then remarrying the original spouse as some teach) because the restitution for the sexual sins and the breaking of vows etc. is made by Jesus on the cross in the same way restitution for all of our sins is made. God teaches that it is not good for man (woman) to be alone. People who have failed at marriage either by their own fault or someone else’s fault, find themselves alone as a result and the way God helps these people to not be overwhelmed by loneliness or sexual temptation is to forgive them of their sins and open the door for them to remarry. Even Paul says that it is better to marry than to burn (1Cor.7:8-9). Hope this clarifies. - MM
Thanks for your reply brother. Here's the thing. In the Old Testament, if a man would divorce his wife and that woman would become another man's wife, he could not take her back if she again was divorced because she would be "defiled". How?? one may ask? By having sex with another man! So the actual sex act is considered the sin..not just the divorce. Therefore, if a man divorces his wife ( except it be for fornication) and marries another woman, he commits adultery. In other words, that second marriage is considered adulterous.
And yet, those who favor your position on the marriage, divorce and remarriage issue insist that the remarried person divorce their present partners and return to their previous spouses in order to be right with God. You can’t have it both ways. Also, if you appeal to the Law in your position on this topic, you’ll have to be judged by the Law on all other matters as well. We are not under law but under grace, and under this covenant the Lord offers both forgiveness and restoration.
Yes brother, I understand. I personally am against the idea of returning to the previous spouse..and so was the old testament law. This only proves my point! I do believe in God's grace however. I guess what I'm saying is simply this: I don't agree with your idea that "divorce" is the sin...rather, the unlawful sex in an unbiblical marriage is the sin. This only shows how sensitive of an issue divorce and remarriage is. It's no wonder why the disciple told Jesus that it is probably better not to marry if this is the case! But I totally agree with you on God's grace to forgive.
Are you perfected from all sin and do you not sin whatsoever? I think you are way wrong if you assess mr meaazlongo as a false teacher. Are you a minister preacher or pastor?
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I understand your points, brother. However, we must not ignore what Christ said on the subject. He did say if a man divorces his wife ( except it be for fornication) and marries another, commits adultery. The question is, in a case where there was no adultery and the person is in a new marriage, can that person be free from being in adultery? How far does God tolerate?? Can we as Christians be saved if we are in an unbiblical marriage?? This is a very, very complicated issue. I wish it were simple!
You are correct, complicated and emotional. In my opinion, the “sin” (aside from sexual sin with someone other than your spouse) is in the breaking of the marital vow. So the divorce itself is the sin. Marriage is not considered a sin in the Bible even if it’s a second marriage. Jesus actually says that someone divorces his wife and “marries” another. He doesn’t say ...and goes into an adulterous marriage or goes into a sinful or forbidden marriage!
He teaches that a person sins if he breaks his vow (divorce) and marries someone else. He calls this sin “adultery”. Again, the sin takes place in and around his first marriage.
The question people want to know is, “Can a person be forgiven for this sin?” I believe that the one that broke the vow and whatever was done leading up to that rupture can be forgiven. I also believe that acknowledging that sin and making a sincere effort not to repeat the behavior or actions that led to that break is the repentance necessary (not forced celibacy or divorcing and then remarrying the original spouse as some teach) because the restitution for the sexual sins and the breaking of vows etc. is made by Jesus on the cross in the same way restitution for all of our sins is made.
God teaches that it is not good for man (woman) to be alone. People who have failed at marriage either by their own fault or someone else’s fault, find themselves alone as a result and the way God helps these people to not be overwhelmed by loneliness or sexual temptation is to forgive them of their sins and open the door for them to remarry. Even Paul says that it is better to marry than to burn (1Cor.7:8-9).
Hope this clarifies.
- MM
Thanks for your reply brother. Here's the thing. In the Old Testament, if a man would divorce his wife and that woman would become another man's wife, he could not take her back if she again was divorced because she would be "defiled". How?? one may ask? By having sex with another man! So the actual sex act is considered the sin..not just the divorce. Therefore, if a man divorces his wife ( except it be for fornication) and marries another woman, he commits adultery. In other words, that second marriage is considered adulterous.
And yet, those who favor your position on the marriage, divorce and remarriage issue insist that the remarried person divorce their present partners and return to their previous spouses in order to be right with God. You can’t have it both ways. Also, if you appeal to the Law in your position on this topic, you’ll have to be judged by the Law on all other matters as well.
We are not under law but under grace, and under this covenant the Lord offers both forgiveness and restoration.
Yes brother, I understand. I personally am against the idea of returning to the previous spouse..and so was the old testament law. This only proves my point! I do believe in God's grace however. I guess what I'm saying is simply this: I don't agree with your idea that "divorce" is the sin...rather, the unlawful sex in an unbiblical marriage is the sin. This only shows how sensitive of an issue divorce and remarriage is. It's no wonder why the disciple told Jesus that it is probably better not to marry if this is the case! But I totally agree with you on God's grace to forgive.
you know you have a false teacher when that one says that the permanence, of marriage, is only an ideal...
Are you perfected from all sin and do you not sin whatsoever? I think you are way wrong if you assess mr meaazlongo as a false teacher. Are you a minister preacher or pastor?