wow! don't know what is was like when it came to you, but that thing sounds absolutely killer here. good looking job inside too, at least what I seen there. very nice 👍
Beautifully sounding amp and a dream to have, but I had no idea that it has so much gain. I was looking for NAM neural model of an amp with nice clean & edge of breakup sound and I fell in love with 6G6 1965, now lets see which hardware platform (hopefully MOD Dwarf will get stronger CPU soon) will be first to support these free models. It's the only reasonable way to play this beauty, at least in this part of the World 😊. Great videos watched all of them. Thank you!
Awesome video, what amp would you take between the 6g6b bassman or the 6g12 concert? I really like the concert but the bassman with a 4x10” could likely get ballpark to the concert without the harmonic trem. That’s what I’m telling myself because there’s no clones of the concert out there!!
Well, they’re really different sounding amps. The Bassman has that incredible gain if you want it. The Concert doesn’t but has that trem. Honestly though if I wanted the harmonic trem I’d just go for a Flint or other digital model of that harmonic trem into any good clean Fender. Much less expensive and more reliable.
@@PsionicAudio That’s interesting, yes I saw from your other video that the harmonic tremolo can cause issues and that makes sense. It’s basically a univibe. I think Id rather do univibe with a marshall anyways. I just like the woody tone of the concert 4x10s and the bassman is woody too and has a thick tone. Great with a treble booster I imagine. I’ve got a vibrolux and saw your vid doing that too. Your vid’s are really cool. I’ll keep watching!!
That Bassman has amazing harmonic bloom and crunch now that you made it into what it should have been in the first place. Excellent. Have you ever worked on other 6G6-B Bassmans before? I would think that there aren't many of originals out there due to short run Fender did for 6G6-B blond bassman with the Presence knob, before they move to the Blackface Bassman that had switches on the front face plate. I'd be interested to hear which vintage/original Bassman you've had in your shop that you liked the best for tone, touch-sensitivity and overall usefulness.
Thanks so much! I've had originals in, maybe five or so. On those my remit was restoration, but on this one I could make changes to the Bass channel. I love the Blonde and Brown era amps, except for the stupid tapped treble pot, used here on the Normal channel. It has a very narrow sweet spot as a result. And some of the Brown amps have stupid tone stacks, but that's really corrected.
Could you have installed power scaling a la the London Power scaling on your website to make the amp a little more manageable volume wise? Also, can you share which kit this amp is from and whether you’d build such a beast. 🍻
I don't do power scaling/variable voltage on fixed bias amps. Twice as complex with very little benefit. I don't know whose kit, probably Mojotone. I don't built kits.
I love the LP, but it's sidelined while some shielding paint dries. This was the SG and I was trying an unpotted pickup in it. Sounds great but can't do that level of gain The faceplates for the second Excalibre 15 were lost in the mail and I'm waiting for their replacements. I want people to hear the TB option before taking any more orders.
Sounds great but I am surprised its not blowing your head off at Vol.5. Its a question that has bugged me years: why are the vintage versions of amps so much quieter than the modern amps? I have a SF Super Reverb (40watts) and a SF Vibrolux (35watts) and I'm sure my Deluxe Reverb Reissue (20watts) is louder.
A restored vintage amp isn't quiet at all. If your SR and VR aren't louder than your DR RI then they need service. The Normal channel was very loud here at 5. It's just that the "Bass" channel is insanely loud.
alot of things go into the perceived loudness of an amp. it's not just wattage. many other factors like speaker sensitivity/type. whether the amp is biased correctly etc. Keep in mind that it takes roughly ten times the amount of power for one amp to be just twice as loud as another. I say roughly, of course, because of the many other variables involved. But yea man, that super should at least be louder than the other amps you mentioned, all other things being equal.
Lyle, I've viewed all the videos on this amp and in the previous video on this amp you show as one of the mods you did was to change out the cathode bypass cap on V1 from 25uf to 1uf and you removed the bypass cap, another 25uf completely on the second triode. I this video I see that the second triode cap has been reinstalled. Is this correct? I'm asking as I'm modding my Blonde Bassman build to match your recommendations. Thanks!
I think I remember wanting a bit more gain without mud. And/or wanting the heater hum rejection of the bypassed cathode. Notice the snubber cap across the second stage plate. That was very necessary to keep squeal out and reduce hiss. I don’t remember what I used now, but it would have been between 100-500pF. Experiment.
@@PsionicAudio In the video you mention a 330pf across the 100K plate resistor. I'm rather sure it was the same value as the treble bleed on the volume pot.. I'm going to try the 4.7uf for the bypass cap.
CORRECTION: I was wrong Lyle, 😕 I rechecked my notes from you video and you indicated that it was a 500pf cap across the second stage plate resistor. I wanted to be sure that this was noted for future reference to this video/discussion.
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Nice vamp on Think For Yourself. Giving George H. some props!
Great job on that beautiful tuxedo bassman, Lyle!
wow! don't know what is was like when it came to you, but that thing sounds absolutely killer here. good looking job inside too, at least what I seen there. very nice 👍
Sounding great. I saw you (Lyle) over at Brad’s Guitar Garage. Great to see you over there champion.
Beautifully sounding amp and a dream to have, but I had no idea that it has so much gain. I was looking for NAM neural model of an amp with nice clean & edge of breakup sound and I fell in love with 6G6 1965, now lets see which hardware platform (hopefully MOD Dwarf will get stronger CPU soon) will be first to support these free models. It's the only reasonable way to play this beauty, at least in this part of the World 😊. Great videos watched all of them. Thank you!
Love the voicing on the Bass channel. It's far more versatile now than the original circuit ever was.
Late to the party, but that Bass channel...omg!
Holy smokes that's Steppenwolf tone there
Sounding purdy sweet!
Glorious !
Most of the sounds I could want out of an amp right there!👍
Sounds killer.
Awesome video, what amp would you take between the 6g6b bassman or the 6g12 concert?
I really like the concert but the bassman with a 4x10” could likely get ballpark to the concert without the harmonic trem. That’s what I’m telling myself because there’s no clones of the concert out there!!
Well, they’re really different sounding amps. The Bassman has that incredible gain if you want it. The Concert doesn’t but has that trem.
Honestly though if I wanted the harmonic trem I’d just go for a Flint or other digital model of that harmonic trem into any good clean Fender. Much less expensive and more reliable.
@@PsionicAudio That’s interesting, yes I saw from your other video that the harmonic tremolo can cause issues and that makes sense. It’s basically a univibe. I think Id rather do univibe with a marshall anyways. I just like the woody tone of the concert 4x10s and the bassman is woody too and has a thick tone. Great with a treble booster I imagine. I’ve got a vibrolux and saw your vid doing that too. Your vid’s are really cool. I’ll keep watching!!
That Bassman has amazing harmonic bloom and crunch now that you made it into what it should have been in the first place. Excellent. Have you ever worked on other 6G6-B Bassmans before? I would think that there aren't many of originals out there due to short run Fender did for 6G6-B blond bassman with the Presence knob, before they move to the Blackface Bassman that had switches on the front face plate. I'd be interested to hear which vintage/original Bassman you've had in your shop that you liked the best for tone, touch-sensitivity and overall usefulness.
Thanks so much! I've had originals in, maybe five or so. On those my remit was restoration, but on this one I could make changes to the Bass channel.
I love the Blonde and Brown era amps, except for the stupid tapped treble pot, used here on the Normal channel. It has a very narrow sweet spot as a result. And some of the Brown amps have stupid tone stacks, but that's really corrected.
@@PsionicAudioHoly shit.
I think I’m sold on the deluxe. Used to have a real 1964 but the prices have shot HP to high heaven on them.
Could you have installed power scaling a la the London Power scaling on your website to make the amp a little more manageable volume wise? Also, can you share which kit this amp is from and whether you’d build such a beast. 🍻
I don't do power scaling/variable voltage on fixed bias amps. Twice as complex with very little benefit.
I don't know whose kit, probably Mojotone. I don't built kits.
So Lyle how you getting along with your Les Paul?. Man you got that amp tightened up. Any Excalibur updates?. Later
I love the LP, but it's sidelined while some shielding paint dries. This was the SG and I was trying an unpotted pickup in it. Sounds great but can't do that level of gain
The faceplates for the second Excalibre 15 were lost in the mail and I'm waiting for their replacements. I want people to hear the TB option before taking any more orders.
Sounds great but I am surprised its not blowing your head off at Vol.5. Its a question that has bugged me years: why are the vintage versions of amps so much quieter than the modern amps? I have a SF Super Reverb (40watts) and a SF Vibrolux (35watts) and I'm sure my Deluxe Reverb Reissue (20watts) is louder.
A restored vintage amp isn't quiet at all. If your SR and VR aren't louder than your DR RI then they need service. The Normal channel was very loud here at 5. It's just that the "Bass" channel is insanely loud.
alot of things go into the perceived loudness of an amp. it's not just wattage. many other factors like speaker sensitivity/type. whether the amp is biased correctly etc. Keep in mind that it takes roughly ten times the amount of power for one amp to be just twice as loud as another. I say roughly, of course, because of the many other variables involved. But yea man, that super should at least be louder than the other amps you mentioned, all other things being equal.
Lyle, I've viewed all the videos on this amp and in the previous video on this amp you show as one of the mods you did was to change out the cathode bypass cap on V1 from 25uf to 1uf and you removed the bypass cap, another 25uf completely on the second triode. I this video I see that the second triode cap has been reinstalled. Is this correct? I'm asking as I'm modding my Blonde Bassman build to match your recommendations. Thanks!
I put a 4.7uF on the second triode IIRC. Might have been 10.
Thanks Lyle!
I think I remember wanting a bit more gain without mud. And/or wanting the heater hum rejection of the bypassed cathode.
Notice the snubber cap across the second stage plate. That was very necessary to keep squeal out and reduce hiss. I don’t remember what I used now, but it would have been between 100-500pF. Experiment.
@@PsionicAudio In the video you mention a 330pf across the 100K plate resistor. I'm rather sure it was the same value as the treble bleed on the volume pot.. I'm going to try the 4.7uf for the bypass cap.
CORRECTION: I was wrong Lyle, 😕 I rechecked my notes from you video and you indicated that it was a 500pf cap across the second stage plate resistor. I wanted to be sure that this was noted for future reference to this video/discussion.
6:55 lol