Labour's 'cast iron' guarantee for military and nuclear deterrent
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2024
- Sir Keir Starmer has said decades of commitment to nuclear defence will be guaranteed if Labour wins the next election.
The Labour leader visited Barrow-in-Furness, the home of Britain's Dreadnought nuclear submarines, and vowed to continue his commitment to the country's defence and backed the strengthening of the UK's nuclear deterrent.
He also described his party as a pioneer of defence, saying: "Labour has a long tradition and history when it comes to defence."
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Yet another "Defence Review"!
No wonder the UK has limited capability with a constantly changing target set.
Would help if it was an actual review rather than an exercise in deciding what to cut.
Wouldn't trust most politicians as far as I can throw them. What is true is that successive governments of all flavours for decades have been disastrous for the Armed Forces and i would argue the country as well.
I see no reason to think Starmer will be different.
Its not a cast iron guarantee. Its when deemed affordable i.e. never
Tell him to show his hands. Fingers crossed.
Switch back to AFPS 75 pension with a guarantee of 22 years service and you’ll get many more recruits bet
As my old grandmother used to say a politicians promises are like piecrust easily broken.
Yes but when you're injured and out of the armed forces there is no support, cast iron or otherwise. People know it and won't join.
Military Covenant must be respected.
Wrong
@@lonpfrb what is this "military covenant" you speak of? I've never experienced such a thing. After leaving the armed forces if you're messed up NOTHING comes from the government it all comes from charities. Stop being conned that the government does anything meaningful for veterans. The British legion and ssafa are charities paid for by some members of the public usually with a military connection who choose to put their hands in their pockets.
The military convent is a joke, dont belive a word of it.
I got shot in Afghan in 2012 aftercare for 3 years was amazing the. Got a decent pension to move on.
Increase pay, housing for the armed forces and the support, more aircraft, equipment. Don’t muck around, do it or the next government will find it’s in trouble.
He's talking about defence spending in front of a BAEs sign. If you think defence spending is going to housing and salaries, you must be naive.
Go see your MP. This is the only way to do it. Labour won't increase defence spending. They started with a review, which means cutting deeply everywhere in the forces, it ALWAYS does in the government no matter who it is in reality.
Starmer will pledge anything, even his own mother, to get into Downing Street. And just like Labour of old will go back on all those promises once in power. I know many of you are young and haven’t had the indignity of living under a Labour administration; but believe me once you do you’ll wish you hadn’t.
The country ran far far better under the last labour government! Fact! They weren't perfect at the time but are you seriously saying these Tories are a better option than labour?
@@garagenigel No I’m not, but rather than go back to the shocking mismanagement of Labour, perhaps we should try the Respect party.
At over 90,the best government in my lifetime,was that of Mr Attlee in 1945.Without that Labour government we would not have the NHS,21objections to it!They also built thousands of pre fab houses some of which have lasted until recently.Just two of the good things they did.
A cast iron guarantee from a politician 😂😂😂
Some reasonable aspiration, and wise not to commit to any specifics before seeing the review results.
As always, actions speak louder than words.
I like what he says, but lets see if he is another flip flop.
He cant be any worse than the tories. literally 1 million + migrants every year, cutting police numbers, paying millions on housing migrants that hate us in hotels. If hes going to improve the economy and support the military then might as well be labour.
he is a flip flop, he supported corbyn in two elections, the same corbyn who wanted to scrap the nuclear deterrent…
Don’t worry, they are not the tories, they are normal. (At least more normal than liz truss)
@@ArmUkraineStarmer is a rather poor example. A man who once said on camera he’d like the abolition of the monarchy but accepted a knighthood. A man who has expelled Corbyn and his closest followers but was himself loyal to the previous leader when he thought he could be PM. He’s a veteran flip flopper!
@@ArmUkraine😂 You cannot seriously believe that
An armed forces commissioner who can fight for better accommodation and better spending by scrapping Sodexo and other rotten companies is a big deal . And the fact he acknowledged our armed forces where living in none satisfactory accommodation is another big thing . Bring on a new gov !!
You think this lot care more than the current lot? There's no magic money tree for the troops. Never has been, never will be. That's why they recruit far more working class lads than anyone else, as they will put up with worse conditions for less money.
5% GDP Would be great!!!!!!
BAE shareholders will be queuing up to buy Carribbean islands!
I'd take that with a pinch of salt.
Really, you’re letting everybody into our country no
I hope you keep this to your word.
Really? I thought Corbyn wanted to get rid of Trident!
No more than Labour wanted rid of Corbyn😂
Corbyn has been chucked out of the Labour Party.
First time I am actually interested in what he is saying.
Why? Do you have shares in the arms trade?
You have to be joking, why is Forces news giving this air time, he went after soldiers from Iraq to prosecute them, with alleged Iraqi victims. Disgusting
That was his job.
Why should he not ?
Do you know how the justice system works?
The military are not above the law
Labour took the U.K. to an ilegal war
Get rid of the companies milking contracts for substandard housing, relaunch the Pioneer Corp where service personnel maintain the housing. Better pay and benefits for service personnel. Improved levels of equipment and more ships, planes, fihting vehicles
A veterans administration so once you leave you get the support needed for health, housing and training similar to what the US has
Never ever has labour done anything positive for HM Forces. It makes me shudder to think how they would further destroy this country
Give over, Tony Blair constantly deploying the armed forces has positively improved our forces! Look how far behind we would be if we hadn't had deployed to Kosovo, sierra Leone, Iraq Afghanistan! And many more! You need to be looking at the Tories for decimating the Army in particular!
"Armed Forces Commissioner" - isn't that CGS's job (no doubt delegated the DCGS) ????????
The enemy is already here. It’s already working in the government in the civil servant especially in home office
He'll say anything to get in power
That’s his job
@@chad6080 his job should be to lead the nation to victory with grand strategy
@@Jay-gr9ij what does victory look like?
@chad6080 the defeat of Marxism and communism; the defeat of the EU; A strategy for the emancipation and freedom of African nations; the building of true alliances etc. If it were me I'd form a union with either commonwealth countries or become part of the USA.
@@Jay-gr9ij so you want to leave the union of Europe and join a union of America?
Reforms a better vote
Any chance you can explain why?
So… what’s a commissioner? The Tories have a veterans MP, the Secretary of State should look after the rest.
I’m sure the Tories currently spend 2% of GDP and Sunak announced last week this was going up to 2.5% (not a, we’d like too but it’s their fault), and the Tories have just given £35m to veterans and service leavers. Office for veterans affairs etc I know a lot of people moan about them and think they do nothing but given them a chance, all fairly new systems. And what did Labour give us? Defence cuts and Iraq.
Sure there’s issue, Pinnacle, Capita and Sodexo need to go but I don’t see either party committing to that atm.
Cast iron is brittle.
Just saying...
It's a "cast iron guarantee unless he changes his mind", just curious has he ever reneged on previous "guarantee's?
Reneged on everyone, he’s a bigger liar than his Tory mate Johnson and that’s going some!
Glad I'm out of it.
Are we sure he didn't mean iron clad?
He looks like he's going to cry all the time
The problem facing the U.K is we have a defence that is neither fish nor fowl. Hollowed out to be wafer thin and unable to sustain a protracted conflict by not having a home industry base . BAE systems is a multi national conglomerate, a privateer and monopolist not something the country can count upon to secure sovereign safety .Having separate army ,navy and airforce is a luxury that needs to be resolved. Health,education ,water ,energy, social housing and infrastructure are all crippled, by choices pushed through by an elected party that has done this out of extreme capitalist dogma that is based on a stock market economy and property inflation, not sustained balance , but extreme plutocracy that favours only the richest. So little wonder people are unwilling to fight to maintain those conditions ? The first reviews should be financial and a shake down the tickle down charlatans for neglect of promises, with industrial decline, going back 50 years !
I tend to agree. I will be voting this time for whoever is promising to increase tax the most for the country, especially higher earners. The nation needs taxation to fund repair of our ailing infrastructure that has been allowed to be asset stripped and, as you said, hollowed out for private shareholder profits for too many years, going all the way back to thatcher.
Cast iron cracks under fire when dose with water.
Why are you posting this?
What about the rising intentions in our own country
I wonder if starmer has watched "A very British coup" i was made to watch it at school 😅 it is exactly what SHOULD be happening.
Military always get shrunk by the labour party. Wiped out more regiments than any conflict.
Labour does indeed have a long history and tradition when it comes to defense
You gave the jet engine to the Russians at the end of ww2 who then put it in the mig 15 that killed many allied pilots.
The white paper in 66 and Blair sending troops to war in Iraq with woefully outdated kit are just a few labour policies.
There was plenty of kit when Blair sent us to Iraq! If forward units didn't have it then that's down to their QM! My unit had everything it needed!
Remember when the conservatives were going to scrap all our carriers and landing ships before in the late 1970s?
I trust starmer and sunak as far as I can throw them.
Is this guarantee as ‘cast iron’ as the £28 billion green energy fund that was scrapped?
He can't promise big money when your hero Johnson spent it all in 40 new hospitals 😂
Simply don't believe him or in his party.
A politicians "Cast Iron Guarantee" is utterly worthless these days. They all speak with forked tongues.
Starmer is not one I would trust with the security of this country.
he's seen the coin from selling arms and now he's hard . don't fall for it.
It shouldn’t take a commissioner to fight for our armed services, equipment, training, recruitment, pay and benefits and deployment all require review
Dread to think how much lower standards and discipline will fall when this lot get in with their wokeness.
Thick as mince!
Because it isn’t woke today lol
As wars will be around till this earth is destroyed I feel more and more investments in drone development is essential and a lot more cheaper.
I would love to speak to sir keir starmer over what i want to be achieved in the labour government. Its to much to write on here 😂
Was this a Labour, party political broadcast? Would have thought this channel would be neutral. 👎
yes they need a tory to balance it out 👍
They have plenty of Tory’s on so don’t panic
@@NOT.MI5.MI6. Why Tory?
They're going to be in 3rd place behind Reform UK soon.
cast iron guarantee set in stone - trouble is he'll bankrupt the country
How fortunate that the conservatives have already done that.
@@chad6080 don't tell him that he's a reform UK sheep
@@chad6080 funny tho as I recall hearing on news/newspapers and other media Labour saying and writing on a piece of paper saying there’s no money left just before they left Number 10 to Conservatives got in or did I dream that.
Didn't the previous Labour Chancellor Alistair Darling leave a note for George Osborne saying that "There's no money left". It seems that the Conservatives thanks to a certain policies such as that thing which happened a few years back (cough) combined with a certain weather agenda, spending billions on weapons so that one group of foreign people can delete another group of foreign people etc, may have been their way of paying the Labour party back.
No it happened
Having more money pump in the denfence budget is just as important as hospitals,police,school,homes, even god dam pot holes in roads as we all know having a great army,raf and navy to defend are country and allies from any threat that come are way and 100% to keep are nuclear program too I do hope he not just saying about the 2.5% on denfence as the saying goes action speak louder then words...
“Cast blancmange”.
Starmer and Sadiq Khan, don’t forget they are on the same side, and that’s not the British side.
What side are they on?
@@DanielsPolitics1 the destruction side, I.E anti british unionism anti nationalism anti British flag anti British values anti British patriots anti British history anti British cutouts and anti christianity
@@dropkickedurnan6099 when were you last in church flag sha66er?
Cry about it you mug 😂😂
The future of the armed forces is the civil service's remit, not yours bud.
Yes you will do as you are told by your banking paymasters
You can’t believe a word this man has to say…
And the public can believe a Tory prime minister who wasn’t voted by the public and who has been apart of a party that has caused the armed forces to the state there in today
If he said "ues " he would press the red button it would be terrifying and the best deterrent of all. But nah yes waffle.
No one is pressing the mythical red button! Nice try though!
Prosecution service comedy tonight to comedy carry on !
Wait to get into government before doing the review to understand threat 🤔
He said it in the video, the opposition is not privy to some important information on threats.
he always looks like he is about to be told of and cry,
You cant believe a word that comes from this muppets mouth
A bit rich coming from a muppet 😂
And I believe in Father Christmas.😤😡🤬🤬
Tracked from Benbecula
You mean he's not real 😭😭😭😭
@@Trumpets4me fully real
Keir has good ideas.
yeh an armed forced commissioner is an asnwer...get rid of woke and recruit train and look after the troops, better pay, accomodation, free quaility food when In uniform and bring back local recruitment, and lets buy more off shelf foreign kit as MOD are rubbish at in house design - ie ajax
LOL . England's next Neville Chamberlain .
Hardly
@@sapiotone Really ?Mr. Flip-flop should be his name .
I don't think we'll be seeing him sneak into a Russian agent's house with files and files of secrets like your pal Alexander Johnson!
Traitor👆🏻
0:10 wierd was of saying your previous leader committed war crimes
Evidence?
😂😭
They get my vote
He starmer talks rubbish, the military will be the first to be striped back , he talks absolute Tosh.
Can't be stripped back any more than it is!
liar there are too many variable's in his comment's he says we will do this and that then its all if buts and maybes he who speaks at great lengths says little
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I wouldn't trust Labour to run a bath. They're all a bunch of, how shall I say, shallow with the truth 😮😮. Best military in the world.
I wish politicians would show them the respect they deserve, and fund them properly. Can't find the money to fund them, but plenty of money for overseas aid, and the odd disaster here and there. Bottomless pit for that.
Nowhere near the best in the world pal 😂
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does anyone believe Jimmy Saviles mate
These comments read like a care home for GB News simps!
but they are not offer our armed forces anything more than Tories. I'm voting reform uk anyway this time. not voting tory again.
The threats that we face are escalated by NATO. Better to spend the money at home fighting inequality and improving conditions for existing troops. The social contract with the government has been broken, and not sure why anyone would want to fight in these proxy wars.
🤣😆🤣 If you believe him you may as well vote for Pinochio, Yet another politician begging for votes. Once upon a time ...........................
He's the man we need as next prime minister. Labour government will fix the country
Whatever meds your on are way too strong for you.
He will do the exact same as the cons and shaft the nation.
jimmy saviles mate
What utter bullsh1t. A total change of military culture is needed urgently. That’s not going to happen, any time soon. I’m a time served soldier of 22 years, a former Recruiter in fact, and I would be telling all, to stay well away from joining the Armed Forces.
"recruiter" tour dodger you mean!
Cheers dits.