What do you guys think of Durin the Deathless? Is he the most famous Dwarven King in Middle-Earth? And do you believe that he was reincarnated 6 times to lead his people once more? As always subtitles are available and feedback is welcome!
I think Durin the Deathless is very interesting, he is easily the most famous of the dwarven kings. I do believe he was reincarnated six times. One of the most interesting things I learned from this video is that of all the kings he was not given a wife, but it is more interesting that he instead received a legion of dwarven followers to help him create Khazad-Dûm.
@geekzone the dwarves WOULDNT have disturbed his rest but the orcs would have no such problem. Maybe they found his tomb and axe and balin found it afterwards. Just a thought. I doubt balin would tell such a lie. He was a very honorable and noble dwarf
"It's the dwarfs that go swimming with little hairy women!" Great video! I'd love to hear your theory of how Gimli's encounter with Aule in Valinor went since this would be the first time that he interacted with one of his creations since they were given life by Illuvatar
In his video on the Dwarf afterlife, he said that the Dwarves believe that after dying they go to the Halls of Mandos. Once there, they further go into a special hall meant for only the dwarves, where Aule takes care of them until Dagor Dagorath, the great battle at the end of the world. If this belief is true, then Aule has interacted with many of his creations since they were given life by Illuvatar. Or if not true, then I would also very much like to know the theory of how the encounter between Gimli and Aule in Valinor went.
You kind of get a little awestruck when you think that long before the rebellion of the Noldor, long before the elves left Valinor and came back to Beleriand, far, far away across the ocean. across the wide lands of Beleriand, the Blue Mountains, Middle Earth and the Misty Mountains, Durin the Deathless and his folk were flourishing in the south east of Middle earth in the greatest dwarf kingdom. Unnoticed and untouched by the Eldar and wars with Morgoth.
Carl, these illustrations are downright incredible! The individual/individuals that are responsible are TRULY gifted and then add to your beautiful narrative 👏👏👏 AMAZING 🥰
"The world was young, the mountains green No stain yet on the Moon was seen No words were laid on stream or stone When Durin woke and walked alone He named the nameless hills and dells He drank from yet untasted wells He stooped and looked in Mirrormere And saw a crown of stars appear As gems upon a silver thread Above the shadow of his head The world was fair, the mountains tall In Elder Days before the fall Of mighty Kings in Nargothrond And Gondolin, who now beyond The Western Seas have passed away The world was fair in Durin's Day A king he was on carven throne In many-pillared halls of stone With golden roof and silver floor And runes of power upon the door The light of sun and star and moon In shining lamps of crystal hewn Undimmed by cloud or shade of night There shone forever far and bright There hammer on the anvil smote There chisel clove, and graver wrote There forged was blade and bound was hilt The delver mined the mason built There beryl, pearl, and opal pale And metel wrought like fishes' mail Buckler and corslet, axe and sword And shining spears were laid in horde Unwearied then were Durin's folk Beneath the mountains music woke The harpers harped, the minstrels sang And at the gates the trumpets rang The world is grey, the mountains old The forge's fire is ashen-cold No harp is wrung, no hammer falls The darkness dwells in Durin's halls The shadow lies upon his tomb In Moria, in Khazad-dûm But still the sunken stars appear In dark and windless Mirrormere There lies his crown in water deep 'Till Durin wakes again from sleep" -JRR Tolkien
I love your videos. My friends and family will sometimes compliment me on my knowledge of Tolkien's Universe, but I always tells them that I just watch you guys and History of the Ages videos lul
I’m really interested in turning my love for lord of the rings into a hobby. Any club/society recommendations would be most welcome. Great video again Carl!
I didn't know during the deathless lived that long I knew he'd lived longer than any other dwarf but shit over 2000 years imagine the things he witnessed
A little of topic but I've havnt seen any one talk about the wild men that helped the Rohrim with a short cut to the Pelenor Fields. I've looked on other channels but havnt come across it so it would be cool to see a vid on the wild men of the forest i think the chief was Ghan buri Ghan.
The star constellation Durin sees in the mirrorlake is what the Eldar call the Valacirya, the sickel of the Valar. Though the Valar apparently never interacted directly with the dwarves after Aule put them to sleep, I like to think that they signalled their good will towards the adopted children of Ilúvatar.
Dwarf architecture has sort of an art deco motif going on. Orc tech is all about mass production, quantity over quality, whereas Dwarf tech is all about quality, innovation, and cleverness. To a Dwarf, the notion of quantity over quality (or planned obsolescence) would probably seem disdainful or downright offensive. Their manufacturing policy is everything should be built to last. In this age of our world, we've abandoned that principle. More's the pity.
@geekzone the dwarves WOULDNT have disturbed his rest but the orcs would have no such problem. Maybe they found his tomb and axe and balin found it afterwards. Just a thought. I doubt balin would tell such a lie. He was a very honorable and noble dwarf
The greatest city of the Dwarves, it goes by many names; Khazad-dûm, Dwarrowdelf and as it has come to be called now Moria as the Elves call it, the Black Pit.
I think it is certain that he was reincarnated, to answer your primary question. It is without doubt. As for the question of Durin's Axe... You could be right, and it was the axe of Durin VI alone. But, I think it is far more likely that the orcs plundered Durin I's tomb, or even likelier still that Durin I's axe was not buried with him but was in fact held in a place of reverence, much like the shards of Narsil, for the hand of their rightful wielder to pick up once again, and that this axe was passed down to each incarnation of the Father of Dwarves. This, to me, seems much more likely. I see it being handed down, it's head made of mithril and it's handle perhaps diamond in part (or adamant as it is called in Tolkien lore - and I had always imagined it as mithril with a sharp diamond edge and partial handle), but with each Durin adding his own mark to it during his life, his own personal stamp or contribution to the weapon. It's just something dwarves would do, ya know?
Can someone explain to me how the orcs get into moria? The door was magically locked as we saw at LOTR but im not sure about the door they exit after Gandalf's fall. Was it open and if yes why the dwarfs leave it like this?
@@meduseldtales3383 That happened at the third age but the dwarves leave moria way sooner that that... but reading some more i found that the dwarves leave after the discovery of the balrog.
5:53 wait so are gimli gloin fili kili and the others not their real names? Also fun fact all of their names including gandalf were taken from the prose and poets Edda which is where all the Norse mythology stuff is from
@@GeekZoneMT I like the idea that two dwarf perents are having an argument about what to name their child and they eventually decide to just use both one as a dwarf name the other as a non dwarf name And they then start arguing about which should be which
Where are you from? I've got a really hard time pin pointing your accent. Not that the accent bothers me though, more so it adds character to your voice.
The dwarves have the best story. You never hear about dwarves butchering each other over boats. It’s the grand downfall of their kingdoms that’s survives in pop culture.
What do you guys think of Durin the Deathless? Is he the most famous Dwarven King in Middle-Earth? And do you believe that he was reincarnated 6 times to lead his people once more? As always subtitles are available and feedback is welcome!
I think that he was indeed reincarnated most likely by Aulé with permission of Illuvatar
I think Durin the Deathless is very interesting, he is easily the most famous of the dwarven kings. I do believe he was reincarnated six times. One of the most interesting things I learned from this video is that of all the kings he was not given a wife, but it is more interesting that he instead received a legion of dwarven followers to help him create Khazad-Dûm.
No. Just like Arwen was not a reincarnation of Luthien - just a romantic notion.
I do believe , he and his reincarnation are arguably the greatest dwarf
@geekzone the dwarves WOULDNT have disturbed his rest but the orcs would have no such problem. Maybe they found his tomb and axe and balin found it afterwards. Just a thought. I doubt balin would tell such a lie. He was a very honorable and noble dwarf
You've dug so greedily and deep into this subject, you've awoken shadow and flame
😂😂
My cousin Ballin would give us a royal welcome
Oh so the Balrog of UA-cam has been awoken and that's why content get censored and channels shadow banned? :/
@@C-Jay_Underground That would explain a lot.
@@jonathanjoestar9714 I can't imagine anything else. I'm glad it's not only me!
"It's the dwarfs that go swimming
with little hairy women!"
Great video! I'd love to hear your theory of how Gimli's encounter with Aule in Valinor went since this would be the first time that he interacted with one of his creations since they were given life by Illuvatar
In his video on the Dwarf afterlife, he said that the Dwarves believe that after dying they go to the Halls of Mandos. Once there, they further go into a special hall meant for only the dwarves, where Aule takes care of them until Dagor Dagorath, the great battle at the end of the world. If this belief is true, then Aule has interacted with many of his creations since they were given life by Illuvatar. Or if not true, then I would also very much like to know the theory of how the encounter between Gimli and Aule in Valinor went.
GIMLI: Oh, Aulë . . . my Maker . . . wouldst thou . . . sign my axe??
AULË: Sure, little buddy [sign sign]
GIMLI: OMG this is _so_ _awesome_
AULË: Hey li'l dude, how 'bout some Dwarven superpowers? D'you want to be able to chug liquid _mithril_ and spit chain lightning?
GIMLI: Oh, yes please
ILÚVATAR: *_ahem_*
AULË: Oh, right Boss. I forgot. No handing out superpowers . . . until the Dagger . . . uh . . . the Bregor . . . Bragollach? . . . you know, the End Times thing. Sorry, big guy. (whispers behind hand) _Come_ _by_ _the_ _backup_ _forge_ _tonight_ _after_ _sundown_ . . . _Mahtan'll_ _let_ _you_ _in._ _Arien's_ _gonna_ _stop_ _by_ _when_ _she_ _gets_ _off_ _work_ _and_ _she's_ _gonna_ _roll_ _us_ _a_ _reef_ _of_ _metamorphic_ _rock,_ _and_ _we'll_ _do_ _some_ _orogeny_ . . . _you'll_ _love_ _it_
You kind of get a little awestruck when you think that long before the rebellion of the Noldor, long before the elves left Valinor and came back to Beleriand, far, far away across the ocean. across the wide lands of Beleriand, the Blue Mountains, Middle Earth and the Misty Mountains, Durin the Deathless and his folk were flourishing in the south east of Middle earth in the greatest dwarf kingdom. Unnoticed and untouched by the Eldar and wars with Morgoth.
Tolkien blessed us with some great stories but many more remain untold.
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Fear for my army marches!!!!!
Tolken's Dwarves are the coolest!
"Let them come. There's one dwarf yet in Moria who still draws breath"
And they said Gimli was only the comic relief.
>:( Dwarven fury
Nope. But increasingly so as the movies progressed(deteriorated).
Don’t forget merry and pippin
He was, sadly he was a comic relief.
Whoever said that was a fool. :P Gimli was a badass and a deep and moving character.
Gimli always says to me that it was a “shitting hole for the gods, and they shat gems and precious ores”
But he’s also hooked on elven mead so-
Carl, these illustrations are downright incredible! The individual/individuals that are responsible are TRULY gifted and then add to your beautiful narrative 👏👏👏 AMAZING 🥰
"The world was young, the mountains green
No stain yet on the Moon was seen
No words were laid on stream or stone
When Durin woke and walked alone
He named the nameless hills and dells
He drank from yet untasted wells
He stooped and looked in Mirrormere
And saw a crown of stars appear
As gems upon a silver thread
Above the shadow of his head
The world was fair, the mountains tall
In Elder Days before the fall
Of mighty Kings in Nargothrond
And Gondolin, who now beyond
The Western Seas have passed away
The world was fair in Durin's Day
A king he was on carven throne
In many-pillared halls of stone
With golden roof and silver floor
And runes of power upon the door
The light of sun and star and moon
In shining lamps of crystal hewn
Undimmed by cloud or shade of night
There shone forever far and bright
There hammer on the anvil smote
There chisel clove, and graver wrote
There forged was blade and bound was hilt
The delver mined the mason built
There beryl, pearl, and opal pale
And metel wrought like fishes' mail
Buckler and corslet, axe and sword
And shining spears were laid in horde
Unwearied then were Durin's folk
Beneath the mountains music woke
The harpers harped, the minstrels sang
And at the gates the trumpets rang
The world is grey, the mountains old
The forge's fire is ashen-cold
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In Moria, in Khazad-dûm
But still the sunken stars appear
In dark and windless Mirrormere
There lies his crown in water deep
'Till Durin wakes again from sleep"
-JRR Tolkien
Such a wonderful song! Have you heard its cover by Clamavi de Profundus?
@@GeekZoneMT Their cover almost made me go look for the misty mountains. It is one of the most beatiful musical scores i have ever heard.
@@GeekZoneMT, oh yes. It gives me chills everytime.
I love your videos. My friends and family will sometimes compliment me on my knowledge of Tolkien's Universe, but I always tells them that I just watch you guys and History of the Ages videos lul
Great video again. I now I said this before but in my opinion this is the best LOTR channel on UA-cam.
I’m really interested in turning my love for lord of the rings into a hobby. Any club/society recommendations would be most welcome. Great video again Carl!
How did I miss this! So good! Can’t wait for the next one!
The Return of The King! Good to see you back Karl!
Thanks Edmund, it's great to be back! :D
I didn't know during the deathless lived that long I knew he'd lived longer than any other dwarf but shit over 2000 years imagine the things he witnessed
Love this vid!! Keep it up mate👍👍
nice new and interesting lore man, congratz!
u should do a video of the lore on Orocarni Dawrfs or what do we know of the 7 Dwarf famalys man!
Looks like Durin is back on the menu boys!
loving these dwarf videos! :)
Thanks karl , great topic again
nice to see you are back my friend!
Thanks Ben, I've been somewhat busy with studies unfortunately :(
@@GeekZoneMT i love you regardless.
The LotR lore of the dwarves are so underrated, there are material for great movies or series.
Balrog: Durin the deathless? Hold my whip...
A little of topic but I've havnt seen any one talk about the wild men that helped the Rohrim with a short cut to the Pelenor Fields. I've looked on other channels but havnt come across it so it would be cool to see a vid on the wild men of the forest i think the chief was Ghan buri Ghan.
One doesn’t experience self-transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates✌️
Illusion of self huh? Tell me more.
What is the song playing at 3:40?
Really loved this one 🤩
What's the music called that's about 2 minutes into the video ?
A very good watch as always!
Thanks King Thoden!
This is a great video
Another great video. It amazed me how much of a universe Tolkien made.
The star constellation Durin sees in the mirrorlake is what the Eldar call the Valacirya, the sickel of the Valar. Though the Valar apparently never interacted directly with the dwarves after Aule put them to sleep, I like to think that they signalled their good will towards the adopted children of Ilúvatar.
I'll never say no to another Dwarf video from GeekZone!
Thank you Karl your the reason I'm obsessed with LOTR!
That's awesome man, it's definitely one of the best things to be obsessed with! :D
Dwarf architecture has sort of an art deco motif going on. Orc tech is all about mass production, quantity over quality, whereas Dwarf tech is all about quality, innovation, and cleverness. To a Dwarf, the notion of quantity over quality (or planned obsolescence) would probably seem disdainful or downright offensive. Their manufacturing policy is everything should be built to last. In this age of our world, we've abandoned that principle. More's the pity.
What is Sauron’s motivation? Power? Hatred?
Durin the Deathless is not dead, just sleeping until re-awakened.
Proset Karl! 😊
Kontenut tal-blieh bhas soltu, 😮
and welcome back!! 🥰
Those 2 dislikes must be Durin's Bane and Azog 😅
Wow i think that was one of the most interesting video 👍👍
Also can you do a video about when the dwarves reclaimed Moria and what did they found??
I am too early that I still didn't listen to the video, but I know for sure it's gonna be good
Cheers man! :D
Thx u 😍😍😍
@geekzone the dwarves WOULDNT have disturbed his rest but the orcs would have no such problem. Maybe they found his tomb and axe and balin found it afterwards. Just a thought. I doubt balin would tell such a lie. He was a very honorable and noble dwarf
So it would seem that dwarves spring out of holes in the ground after all
*May Durin Be With You All!*
BARUK KHAZAAD!! My life has meaning again
The greatest city of the Dwarves, it goes by many names; Khazad-dûm, Dwarrowdelf and as it has come to be called now Moria as the Elves call it, the Black Pit.
Nice :D
I think it is certain that he was reincarnated, to answer your primary question. It is without doubt. As for the question of Durin's Axe... You could be right, and it was the axe of Durin VI alone. But, I think it is far more likely that the orcs plundered Durin I's tomb, or even likelier still that Durin I's axe was not buried with him but was in fact held in a place of reverence, much like the shards of Narsil, for the hand of their rightful wielder to pick up once again, and that this axe was passed down to each incarnation of the Father of Dwarves. This, to me, seems much more likely. I see it being handed down, it's head made of mithril and it's handle perhaps diamond in part (or adamant as it is called in Tolkien lore - and I had always imagined it as mithril with a sharp diamond edge and partial handle), but with each Durin adding his own mark to it during his life, his own personal stamp or contribution to the weapon. It's just something dwarves would do, ya know?
How the grow food down there is what I wonder
So Durin the 1st was basically both the Adam & the Methuselah of all the Dwarves of Middle Earth.
Why didn’t he make impenetrable vests for his whole army
Can someone explain to me how the orcs get into moria? The door was magically locked as we saw at LOTR but im not sure about the door they exit after Gandalf's fall. Was it open and if yes why the dwarfs leave it like this?
Apparently the East Gate was destroyed during the Battle of Azanulbizar.
@@meduseldtales3383 That happened at the third age but the dwarves leave moria way sooner that that... but reading some more i found that the dwarves leave after the discovery of the balrog.
5:53 wait so are gimli gloin fili kili and the others not their real names?
Also fun fact all of their names including gandalf were taken from the prose and poets Edda which is where all the Norse mythology stuff is from
No those are just the names they used among non-Dwarves :)
@@GeekZoneMT I like the idea that two dwarf perents are having an argument about what to name their child and they eventually decide to just use both one as a dwarf name the other as a non dwarf name
And they then start arguing about which should be which
I missed the Grommash theme, it's very memorable. I haven't seen any videos about the Haradrim and the only source that I can see is from the Mumakil.
It's my favourite one also, though I try to use it when it's appropriate :D
how did he die tho ?
Carl turn up the microphone
What would happen after the 6 "lives"
Where are you from? I've got a really hard time pin pointing your accent. Not that the accent bothers me though, more so it adds character to your voice.
The dwarves have the best story. You never hear about dwarves butchering each other over boats. It’s the grand downfall of their kingdoms that’s survives in pop culture.
Great video. How long it took them to do Create casa doom???
Second! I’ve been waiting so long! 🥳😭
*cries in elvish*
I'm sorry buddy!! :D Trust me, I hate being away :'(
@@GeekZoneMT No problem! Just makes it even more valuable. Keep up the great work!
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PAH and they call it a mine. a MIIINE
Durin the 7th was Thorins son.
Was going to be Thorin's son
Hello :)
If I was Aule, I would remember to bury Durin with a female partner...
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I AM *DURIN*
What of the other dwarf fathers
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
So it begins. AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Ima have to give you the dub this time.
0:39 raffiniert
I wonder why Durin wasn’t given a wife? Hmm.
Yeah that always puzzled me tbh, seems like such a strange way to single him out (forgive the pun)
@@GeekZoneMT 😂👌
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